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    I just want to see Pablos fire shirt doing a draw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMH View Post
    One thing I will say if we were doing a draw could we set it so that franchises can move at any time or whatever that setting is as I will be relocating whoever I get/am.
    That's what we did last year. It's a shame we can't move them before we start. You have to wait until the end of the first season.

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    Beefy if you are sore with Mitch and I than at least make Morrison or Matthew a commish as they are always around late night US time.

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    I mean a co commish or whatever. Not trying to oust beefy.

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    Wouldnt want conference balance? And wouldn't a random draw negate that? Like we could have 4 cpu in one division and 4 humans in another?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMH View Post
    Wouldnt want conference balance? And wouldn't a random draw negate that? Like we could have 4 cpu in one division and 4 humans in another?
    Yeah not arguing at all. I just love the fire shirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMH View Post
    Wouldnt want conference balance? And wouldn't a random draw negate that? Like we could have 4 cpu in one division and 4 humans in another?
    No we would set the conference roster first, and then the draw would determine the picking order within the conference. Hold on I'll do an example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOLDBERG'S BEST FRIEND View Post
    Beefy if you are sore with Mitch and I than at least make Morrison or Matthew a commish as they are always around late night US time.
    I'm not sore with either of you. We'll get it all to work fine.

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    Maybe Pablo just draws picking order only and then we pick whatever team we want, within our assigned conference, in order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    I'm not sore with either of you. We'll get it all to work fine.
    Are you cross?

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    US Conference
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    So that's 7 in one and 8 in the other. Relatively even. Then Pabs just picks out of the hat and we get the order. You have to pick within your conference, but it would at least make the draw fair. If we wanted to trade kdestiny for Torn we could also do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOLDBERG'S BEST FRIEND View Post
    Maybe Pablo just draws picking order only and then we pick whatever team we want, within our assigned conference, in order.
    Or we just say who we want and see if there are any issues?

    Seem to me that either way we should agree Conferences and Divisions firstly anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miotch View Post
    US Conference
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    So that's 7 in one and 8 in the other. Relatively even. Then Pabs just picks out of the hat and we get the order. You have to pick within your conference, but it would at least make the draw fair. If we wanted to trade kdestiny for Torn we could also do that.
    Love it. Bring on the fucking fire shirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    Or we just say who we want and see if there are any issues?

    Seem to me that either way we should agree Conferences and Divisions firstly anyway?
    I'm cool with whatever you guys decide. I'm just pumped for this and a little pomp and circumstance never hurts.

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    Also would be way down to do a league podcast if some of you are down to rotate appearances and talk league business with me. I'll probably have to create a thread in the Asylum for the league podcast. I'm not really into having my nerdiest feature available for public consumption. Or if Big BEEFY can make a thread for me that is invisible to unregistered users we can keep it in here.
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    Hopefully we can get a few more people. I'd love it if we could get half the league as human players. Is there anywhere else on the boards it's worth mentioning it?

    I think this thread (and the Clubs thread fwiw) should be in The Asylum. It's a social thread rather than a video game thread. We should have made a thread for the Super Bowl too. What a great way to attract more attention that game would have been.

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    A podcast about a video game league. How riveting.

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    Beefy a bunch of us talked during the super bowl about having me pick the names from a hat.

    Sure. It doesn't really matter which team everyone gets since they'll all be ransomed. My thinking was along the lines of what Mitch had in mind. It will all just be for a little fun. In all likelihood we won't have many conflicts on who gets what team. But it could lead to people ducking divisions someone else is in or purposefully choosing divisions that someone else is in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    I think this thread (and the Clubs thread fwiw) should be in The Asylum. It's a social thread rather than a video game thread. We should have made a thread for the Super Bowl too. What a great way to attract more attention that game would have been.
    Nah I think it belongs here. It's definitely a VG thread.

    As for other people reach out to Hurley and Alex. Maybe Cewsh wants back in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miotch View Post
    A podcast about a video game league. How riveting.
    I've done this before for fantasy leagues and it's always been pretty well received. No one would listen except our league crew but would still be pretty fun for me at least. You dont need to particpate you cranky old girl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    Beefy a bunch of us talked during the super bowl about having me pick the names from a hat.

    Sure. It doesn't really matter which team everyone gets since they'll all be ransomed. My thinking was along the lines of what Mitch had in mind. It will all just be for a little fun. In all likelihood we won't have many conflicts on who gets what team. But it could lead to people ducking divisions someone else is in or purposefully choosing divisions that someone else is in.
    I'm not seeing the fun in either of those things

    I'm just really struggling with the concept of putting some structure around something that should be easy (and has been easy for two years) for a bunch of adults to agree. if I'm in the minority on that then whatever.

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    Beefy, I think it's more of a "fun" thing than a needed thing. Why do you hate fun?

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    If we want Pabs to do a video we should have it. It's certainly not going to make anything worse.

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    I don't get the fun in telling people when they can and can't pick. I'm all for people having the freedom to do what they want.

    If you want a video why don't we chose conferences we want to be in and then Pabs draws the teams within those conferences?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOLDBERG'S BEST FRIEND View Post
    Also would be way down to do a league podcast if some of you are down to rotate appearances and talk league business with me. I'll probably have to create a thread in the Asylum for the league podcast. I'm not really into having my nerdiest feature available for public consumption. Or if Big BEEFY can make a thread for me that is invisible to unregistered users we can keep it in here.
    I would be down. I love that shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    I don't get the fun in telling people when they can and can't pick. I'm all for people having the freedom to do what they want.

    If you want a video why don't we chose conferences we want to be in and then Pabs draws the teams within those conferences?
    Perfect solution.

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    A league podcast is a great idea as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOLDBERG'S BEST FRIEND View Post
    I've done this before for fantasy leagues and it's always been pretty well received. No one would listen except our league crew but would still be pretty fun for me at least. You dont need to particpate you cranky old girl.
    Yes. I know. I was there next to you. I just think this is a bit different, since, you know, it's a video game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    I don't get the fun in telling people when they can and can't pick. I'm all for people having the freedom to do what they want.

    If you want a video why don't we chose conferences we want to be in and then Pabs draws the teams within those conferences?
    The only thing I'd say about that is there's a chance that 4 teams end up in the same division, causing complete unbalance.

    I suppose it could happen the other way too, though I don't think anyone would purposely do it given how much more difficult it would be to make the playoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torn View Post
    How can you have gone into the NFL thread and read a post by Fro and NOT hate him?
    I still sometimes read the sequence of posts in there from this year's Super Bowl for a smile.

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    Feel free to do a pointless random draw if you want because it's just so bloody fun but I'm picking whichever team I want #TEAMBEEFY

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    Remember that time we ran three leagues in a row across three games with no issues over picking teams and we just decided amongst ourselves to keep it fair?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torn View Post
    See MMH?
    Fro is a....

    No, not yet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miotch View Post
    Yes. I know. I was there next to you. I just think this is a bit different, since, you know, it's a video game.
    Instead of a fantasy sports League with less people?

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    Fine. No drawing. The fire shirt stays away.

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    I do think I should be with the rest of the world conference though whichever one we decide to be in.

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    I'm claiming the Cowboys. Fuck Torn.

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    I'm in the AFC mate

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    Do we know what division will align with the US division on the game? AFC or NFC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torn View Post
    I'm in the AFC mate
    We had talked about you switching. You see? Without order there is CHAOS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honey_Badger View Post
    Do we know what division will align with the US division on the game? AFC or NFC?
    The US side will be NFC this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miotch View Post
    We had talked about you switching. You see? Without order there is CHAOS.
    I do what I want not what you want

    I'm in the AFC

    Division with Mikey

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    Agreed. I'll be the Ravens

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    If I'm NFC I'd like the Falcons

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    I'll take Seahawks.

    Are the coaches randomly assigned as well or is there no way to do that?

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    I'd like to be Da Bears

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_Jones View Post
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    Browns it is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOLDBERG'S BEST FRIEND View Post
    I'll take Seahawks.

    Are the coaches randomly assigned as well or is there no way to do that?
    I think everyone should have to create a new head coach, personally, otherwise just keep the coach that comes with the team?

    Also, do you want me in your division or not?

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    I guess I'll be the Dolphins

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    I have decided that the NFC East will be my home and I will compete with Morrison year in and year out.

    I'll take Dallas.

    In order to be the champ you have to beat the champ.

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    Is there a way to have pabs draw the draft position order at least?

    I would say we put every team, including AI, into a drawing for drafting order...

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    Can't you just add Pabs on snapchat or something and ask him to send you videos of the shirt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOLDBERG'S BEST FRIEND View Post
    Is there a way to have pabs draw the draft position order at least?

    I would say we put every team, including AI, into a drawing for drafting order...
    Draft order doesn't matter. Just sim the thing. It's totally random.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    Can't you just add Pabs on snapchat or something and ask him to send you videos of the shirt?
    10 seconds of Pabs wearing the shirt and nothing else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miotch View Post
    Draft order doesn't matter. Just sim the thing. It's totally random.
    I don't understand how this works, do we not draft our own players?

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    I'll take any team but New York teams and Dallas. I don't care otherwise. So whatever division works for everyone else to balance right.

    Long shot mode sucks by the way. Wasted all night last night trying it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    I don't understand how this works, do we not draft our own players?
    We are doing an auto fantasy draft

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miotch View Post
    Nah I think it belongs here. It's definitely a VG thread.

    As for other people reach out to Hurley and Alex. Maybe Cewsh wants back in.
    Nah, i'm good. My schedule is too chaotic to be depended on to get the games played.

    I'd love to be part of it in some way though. Maybe guest on the podcast. We should do commentary on the games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdestiny View Post
    We are doing an auto fantasy draft
    And the reason for that is because trying to get us all lined up to do a full proper fantasy draft would be basically impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    And the reason for that is because trying to get us all lined up to do a full proper fantasy draft would be basically impossible.
    Although that would be epic

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    54 rounds would be ridiculous.

    That's one way we can do a thing with a video.

    Do a live stream of the first handful of rounds. It should go by pretty quickly since there's no decisions to be made. Don't know how to get my video on my twitch stream though...

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    Actually no, I think the surprise of getting our teams only in the finished product is better.

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    No way would I want to do the whole thing either. Maybe 15 rounds

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdestiny View Post
    No way would I want to do the whole thing either. Maybe 15 rounds
    25. That's every starter on offense and defense, a back up qb, a back-up hb and 1 extra (wr or cb).

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    I was hoping I could just play with the Pats real roster

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    I was hoping I could just play with the Pats real roster
    You can do that in an offline CFM, just like I will do with the shitty 49ers

    Just got my "item has been shipped" notice... apparently express delivery means that it will get here on Monday. Not particularly expressy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOLDBERG'S BEST FRIEND View Post
    I don't even believe in shipping to south of the Equator.
    It's coming from New Zealand. It's a bit daft that the cheapest option for me is to ship from there than it is to go into a shop here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    I don't understand how this works, do we not draft our own players?
    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    I was hoping I could just play with the Pats real roster
    unless it was a 'lol super bowl' joke, you picked the falcons earlier. why would you be hoping you could play with the pats real roster?

    unfortunately for the new blood, this league has been going for three versions of madden now, with basically the same core of 8 people or so each year, with a few new names popping up each year. up until now we all just picked teams and went with default rosters, but this year it's going to be a change of approach, for a number of different reasons, not least of which is to try something new. we've had issues in the past of user teams becoming a bit ridiculous by the third season thanks to lop-sided trading with AI teams and stat progression. we're attempting to put a bit more structure into place, and the fantasy draft helps with leveling the playing field amongst users and the AI while also just being a fun twist on the league set-up. i was excited for this game and was hoping to snag the eagles again as my team thanks to this past off-season, cause i likely won't play much reg teams matches with them otherwise, but this fantasy auto draft of the entire league intrigues me much more

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    We should be able to re-create one rookie from last season for our teams...

    God I miss Dario already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miotch View Post
    I have decided that the NFC East will be my home and I will compete with Morrison year in and year out.

    I'll take Dallas.

    In order to be the champ you have to beat the champ.
    OH SNAP.

    i'll restate my intention of taking control of the soon to be NFC east champion eagles, for sake of thread management.

    Quote Originally Posted by GOLDBERG'S BEST FRIEND View Post
    Is there a way to have pabs draw the draft position order at least?

    I would say we put every team, including AI, into a drawing for drafting order...
    Quote Originally Posted by Miotch View Post
    Draft order doesn't matter. Just sim the thing. It's totally random.
    beyond it not mattering, i don't think the commish has the power to set the draft order for a fantasy draft. might be wrong, of course. didn't do a ton of looking around on the draft screen.

    Quote Originally Posted by CWE View Post
    I'll take any team but New York teams and Dallas. I don't care otherwise. So whatever division works for everyone else to balance right.

    Long shot mode sucks by the way. Wasted all night last night trying it.
    i figure once we figure out what division needs the extra body we'll just have you pick one of the three remaining teams. auto'd rosters means it doesn't really matter(outside of possible weather ramifications for the stadium you're in), but might as well give you the choice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cewsh View Post
    Nah, i'm good. My schedule is too chaotic to be depended on to get the games played.

    I'd love to be part of it in some way though. Maybe guest on the podcast. We should do commentary on the games.
    it would be great if we could set up a party chat with the two users playing and two others for commentary, but all the streams have a certain amount of delay on them, so live commentary would be useless.

    Quote Originally Posted by CWE View Post
    25. That's every starter on offense and defense, a back up qb, a back-up hb and 1 extra (wr or cb).
    this would obviously be the set-up to do, but 25 rounds with all members would be impossible to coordinate and without all members present it would be wildly unfair, which defeats the purpose. if beefy wanted to stream the first 25 rounds of the auto draft for fun, that'd work, but i for one want to have the excitement/utter disappointment of loading up and checking out my roster for the first time, though the fun of seeing big names come off the board would make for a fun stream chat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMH View Post
    We should be able to re-create one rookie from last season for our teams...

    God I miss Dario already.
    Fuller was technically a rookie when we started.

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    What if we could get everyone together for at least the first 22 rounds then simulate the rest? That's basically your starting lineups. Would this even be possible?

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    Nope.

    When we do the regular draft, if we get even 8 of us there for the first 4 rounds it's a good showing.

    We just have too many different time zones.

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    We've never managed to get everyone together for our annual draft and now we're looking at having more people making it even less likely. We've posters in five countries and three continents to try to sync up for maybe three hours to run 20-odd rounds.

    If even one person misses out then they'd potentially be massively disadvantaged.

    The only way we could do it is say that anyone who couldn't make it could pick their team once the rosters are set.

    If you want to throw out a couple of dates and see if it happens to miraculously align then go for it. I'd much prefer to pick my team and the strategy of that would be hugely enjoyable, IMO.

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    We might be able to run it RFF-style over the course of a day. Maybe. We could play around with it and see if that could work.

    EDIT - I think there might be a way but it would be really messy.
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    I was thinking of RFF style drafting, but the issue then is the AI teams.

    If someone can think of a good solution to that then we could always create custom rosters and use those, but that'd be a huge pain in the ass.

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    The AI teams are easy as a Commissioner just advances through those and posts here to say who was taken. The tricky things would be drafting the players for the human teams. That would work if it's possible to control multiple teams in CFM. I'm not sure if it is or not.

    What I am sure about is that you can't pause the draft long-term so you'd need someone to have their PS4 on running the whole thing throughout so we're talking one day max so you'd still need everyone to be available on the same day to get it to work. It takes us four or five days to run a seven or eight round RFF draft. I think if we did go that route we would need to cap it at five players. Get your franchise guys and let the AI draft the rest. 20-25 rounds that way just wouldn't be feasible.

    I'll play around with it once I've got the game if no one else tries before then. We've plenty of time to fully explore all options. It might be that people would prefer the 'fun' of just having completely random teams.

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    I'm starting to think fully random would be the best choice.

    Or we can just go back to plain ol choose a team and play with their regular roster. But I was looking forward to something a little different.

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    We've a couple of weeks before we have to make any final decisions. I'm happy with whatever people want to do.

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    Question... do we need PlayStation Plus to play in the league?

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    Yep, you need Plus to play anything online unfortunately.

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    i think there are two other people trying to get into my division (which i called rams before anyone else). so if that is to go down, please put me in a division with just another dude. i would prefer 2 in each.

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    Manual drafting could also lead to overstacked teams with "cheat" players I reckon.

    Shame as it would be fun....

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    Watching back Morri's stream from the other day I'm all for the random drafts. Teams all looked fairly balanced when he went through, every team had some quite large flaws which was good to see.

    An RFF style pre draft for choosing say 5 players I wouldn't be opposed to if people did want to have some input into it all.

    The way this draft works would encourage trading between users as the teams will probably end up reasonably unbalanced. I still would be in preference of just an outright ban on CPU trading and trade with each other. A trade limit still would just result in shitty trades.

    TWO THINGS I thought about watching the stream:

    Salary cap implications. This could fuck people when moving players around and I don't know what the deal is with the CPU picking based on this. Like if they draft you an ageing guy on a massive contract does that fuck your other picks. Might add an extra reason for us to manually select a few players at least.

    Pre-existing injuries should be turned off (we always do this anyway to be fair) as the CPU will draft these injured guys (like Ryan Tannehill)

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    Weird. I posted something and it disappeared completely.

    Anyways. The gist was that I would prefer it be all random. The excitement of seeing your team for the first time is real, and knowing who your 5 best players are takes something away from that in my mind. Plus it would be a nightmare for Beefy or whoever is the commish I think.

    In regards to trades I still think a limited number is the way to go. Yes, lopsided trades are possible, but you almost have to TRY to make it happen. We can pseudo police ourselves, and it doesn't cut off half the player pool. It's also not free reign to do whatever you want, and you should not be able to include future draft picks. In fact I wouldn't be opposed to not including draft picks during in season trades at all. I think that would level things a bit, and let's remember the trade deadline is week 6.

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    It's week 8 though isn't it?

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    Oh, maybe? I guess I thought it was week 6 in real life.

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    who would want to do some 3v3 squads soon (tonight)

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