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    Interesting discussion point brought up by a friend today...

    What will Miami do at QB if Cutler is successful and then win 11 games?

    Do you try to talk him into another contract or go back to Tanahill?

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    The Dolphins could possibly challenge in most other divisions (I'm not convinced but lets go with it). But the Pats are genuinely going into this season with 16-0 potential. The Dolphins would have to win 13 games to even get really in the conversation and where they hell are those 13 wins going to come from?

    The only chance they've got of taking the division is to sweep the Patriots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    There are a lot of players (as in pretty much everyone) who would get roasted for doing an advertisement for their retirement announcement but Vince is just so damn sweet and likable.

    As for Canton, I'd like to see it but it's probably unlikely. He was an incredible run stuffer, so often drawing double teams and clogging up the line. Almost like you had an extra lineman out there when he was on the field.
    I think if the question is simply how many 3-4 DT's have done his job better than him ... then the answer is pretty clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kneeneighbor View Post
    Interesting discussion point brought up by a friend today...

    What will Miami do at QB if Cutler is successful and then win 11 games?

    Do you try to talk him into another contract or go back to Tanahill?
    Nah wil go with Tannehill and then draft our next QB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soxfanatic View Post
    You really don' t think they will challenge them do you? It wasn' t close last year. Why would it be this year?
    Would have been Close if it weren't for injuries to key players in our D in my opinion but yeah depending on how our 2 games go I think we'll be close this year. A lot of people again sleeping on Dolphins this year & Adam Gase.

    About Cutler too, our O-Line is still very good so there won't be much drop off from our QB position. Ajayi will be boss again and our WR are a threat.

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    The receivers are mediocre and the QB play for the second half of the season was only any good because they stopped asking Tannehill to do anything difficult and just let Ajayi run things.

    Every team gets injuries.

    I don't know, asking a team who just lost their QB to compete against a team who just won the Super Bowl before massively upgrading their roster seems a little much. I'd see the Dolphins competing for a wildcard spot.

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    Maybe a good enough time for some season predictions:

    AFCE: Patriots
    AFCN: Steelers
    AFCS: Titans
    AFCW: Raiders
    AFC Wild Cards: Bengals, Colts

    NFCE: Giants
    NFCN: Packers
    NFCS: Falcons
    NFCW: Cardinals
    NFC Wild Cards: Seahawks, Cowboys

    MVP: Brady
    OROY: DeShaun Watson
    DROY: Myles Garrett

    Picking the Cardinals is a risky choice but I am going to roll the dice that Palmer and Fitz will stay healthy.

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    NE Patriots
    KC Chiefs
    Pitt Steelers
    Tenn Titans
    WC: Oakland Raiders & Indianapolis Colts


    Bengals, Dolphins and Broncos miss playoffs


    NY Giants
    Arizona Cardinals
    Green Bay Packers
    Atlanta Falcons
    WC: Tampa Bay Bucs & Seattle Seahawks


    Dallas misses playoffs in tough division


    NFC Title: Packers over Giants
    AFC Title: Patriots over Steelers
    Super Bowl: Patriots over Packers


    MVP: Aaron Rodgers
    Honorable: Brady, Bell, D Johnson and Mariota
    OMVP: L Bell
    DMVP: Mack
    OROY: Christian McCaffrey
    DROY: Jamal Adams

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    I can't pick the NFC East at all. All four teams have brutal schedules and definite weaknesses. I can't see three teams from there making the play-offs simply because I think they'll drop games to each other and to the AFC West.

    AFCE: Patriots
    AFCN: Steelers
    AFCS: Texans
    AFCW: Chiefs
    AFC Wild Cards: Raiders, Chargers

    NFCE: Cowboys
    NFCN: Packers
    NFCS: Falcons
    NFCW: Seahawks
    NFC Wild Cards: Cardinals, Eagles

    MVP: Aaron Rodgers
    OROY: Leonard Fournette
    DROY: Jamal Adams

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    I think Dallas misses the playoffs this year. They have an exposed defenses with a weak secondary, playing in a pass heavy division and conference. Zeke has a ton of question marks and Dak has a lot of film for opposing defenses to study. If anything keeps them in the running, it will be their offensive line, which is a "best of all-time" line.

    Arizona has a top 5 defense with a ton of play makers. David Johnson is one of the best all-around offensive players in football. They have play makers at WR and a veteran, grizzled QB. I don't think it's a stretch at all to assume Arizona will win the West.

    Christian McCaffrey is an absolute stud. I'm thinking he finished with over 1,500 yards combined from receiving and rushing, and over 2,000 all purpose yards.

    Jamal Adams will wrap up the year in conversations with Berry and Honey Badger for best safety in league.

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    I think you'll find that Landon Collins is the entire conversation for best safety in the league.

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    AFCE: Patriots (who go 15-1, losing a game along the way, a game that Goodell just happens to be at)
    AFCN: Steelers
    AFCS: Titans
    AFCW: Raiders
    WC: Chiefs and Colts

    NFCE: Giants
    NFCN: Packers
    NFCS: Falcons
    NFCW: Seahawks
    WC: Cowboys and Cardinals (Vikings just miss out by one game)

    MVP: Rodgers
    OROY: Fournette
    DROY: Adams

    I'll even take a guess at the Most Improved Teams in terms of record:

    MITNFC: Panthers
    MITAFC: Jacksonville (tempted to go Browns simply because it's hard not to improve on 1-15, but I think the Jags win at least 4 more games than they did in 2016)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    The receivers are mediocre and the QB play for the second half of the season was only any good because they stopped asking Tannehill to do anything difficult and just let Ajayi run things.

    Every team gets injuries.

    I don't know, asking a team who just lost their QB to compete against a team who just won the Super Bowl before massively upgrading their roster seems a little much. I'd see the Dolphins competing for a wildcard spot.
    Receivers mediocre seriously? We must have one if the best trio in the league in Landry, Parker & Stills.

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    As long as Jarvis Landry can stop hitting girls, he will be one of the best slot receivers in the league.

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    That's not one of the best trios in the league, Chris

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    Not even the best trio in the AFC East.

    Cooks + Edelman + (Insert any of the following: Amendola, Mitchell or Hogan)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honey_Badger View Post
    Not even the best trio in the AFC East.

    Cooks + Edelman + (Insert any of the following: Amendola, Mitchell or Hogan)
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    It's a good trio but there'll be seven or eight better at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honey_Badger View Post
    Not even the best trio in the AFC East.

    Cooks + Edelman + (Insert any of the following: Amendola, Mitchell or Hogan)
    Cooks, Edelman & Amendola yes but not with the other 2 you mentioned.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    It's a good trio but there'll be seven or eight better at least.
    I did say one of the best trio, I'd say we have top ten.

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    My caution on the Cardinals is whether Palmer has anything left. He's at the age where I can totally see him absolutely falling apart, either physically or just not being able to play well anymore. He was shaky last year and now a year older. If Palmer goes down do we trust Drew Stanton to lead them to the playoffs?

    Bucs and Titans both make sense to me as teams that break through. Just feels like time for both of them. Chargers should get off their streak of shit luck the last couple years but maybe not enough to get into the playoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    It's a good trio but there'll be seven or eight better at least.
    To add to the Pats trio(s)

    NYG: Odell, Marshal, Shepard (if he is hurt then we could throw Engram on there)
    Pitt: AB, Bryant, Bell (Smith-Schuster as a wildcard)
    TB: Evans, Jackson, OJ Howard
    Oakland: Cooper, Crabtree, Cook (Lynch is there too, and don't sleep on Patterson in Oakland)
    GB: Nelson, Cobb, Adams
    Carolina: Benjamin, Funchess, Olsen (with Samuel and McCaffrey being playmakers)
    Dallas: Bryant, Witten, Zeke
    AZ: DJ, Fitz, Brown

    I could probably keep going. If he means strictly receiving than yeah they may be top 6-8, but definitely not even close to the best offensive trio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Scott View Post
    Cooks, Edelman & Amendola yes but not with the other 2 you mentioned.
    Hogan is way better than Amendola. Dola we just keep around so he can return punts and get his TD catches in the Super Bowl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Law View Post
    My caution on the Cardinals is whether Palmer has anything left. He's at the age where I can totally see him absolutely falling apart, either physically or just not being able to play well anymore. He was shaky last year and now a year older. If Palmer goes down do we trust Drew Stanton to lead them to the playoffs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Scott View Post
    Cooks, Edelman & Amendola yes but not with the other 2 you mentioned.

    I did say one of the best trio, I'd say we have top ten.
    I would even hesitate to say top ten. Even if you include Ajayi
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    NFC Division Winners
    Packers
    Seahawks
    Falcons
    Giants

    Wildcard: Cardinals and Cowboys

    AFC Division Winners
    Steelers
    Chiefs
    Colts
    Patriots

    Wildcard: Raiders and Titans

    NFC Title Game: Giants over Packers
    AFC Title Game: Patriots over Raiders

    Superbowl: Patriots over Giants

    MVP: Aaron Rodgers
    OPOTY: David Johnson
    DPOTY: Eric Berry

    OROTY: Christian McCaffrey
    DROTY: Myles Garrett

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    Hogan is way better than Amendola. Dola we just keep around so he can return punts and get his TD catches in the Super Bowl.
    Really? Still think he's really good me. Don't get me wrong Hogan is good like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdestiny View Post
    I would even hesitate to say top ten. Even if you include Ajayi
    No way I was just going by out and out WR but you saying put Ajayi in the mix, we defo will be up there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Scott View Post
    No way I was just going by out and out WR but you saying put Ajayi in the mix, we defo will be up there.
    Yeah, an article I read had them at number 8, so I guess? Their TE aren't as good as most teams so that's why I don't rank them as highly.

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    Yeah TE we are weak but adding Juilus Thomas which we needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Scott View Post
    Really? Still think he's really good me. Don't get me wrong Hogan is good like.
    Hogan had a great first season with the Pats, 18 yards per catch, the deep threat we needed. Amendola is still good for short/medium routes but with Edelman and Cooks here he's not going to have a big role barring injury. He was considered a potential bubble player going into the offseason, but with his restructure and Andre Hawkins retirement, he is likely to make the team. But I would put the over/under on receiving yards for him at 350.

    Glad we have him though, he has come up big in big spots. He has Brady's trust in the 4th quarter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Scott View Post
    Yeah TE we are weak but adding Juilus Thomas which we needed.
    I feel like his success came from having Manning as a QB, I am not sure he is as good as many think he is.

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    Maybe yes, guess we'll see with Cutler now.

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    Pretty satisfied on the whole with the Deshaun Watson debut. Nothing earth shattering, but a solid composure and a confident early grasp of the offense combined with elusiveness and some early pocket awareness, and I feel a little better today than when we traded the farm to acquire him. Still sailed a couple and the offense was run pretty tailored to his Clemson scheme to help get his feet under him, but again, on the whole a nice first outing with more to like than to worry about.

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    the pats just know how to fit guys in their system. hogan wasn't thought of as much here, but NE knew what to do with the guy.

    though i hope we can at least roast gilmore once.

    gillislee is going to be a beast, though.

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    Our rookie LB Raekwon McMillan has reportedly torn his ACL in the preseason game vs Atlanta. This is heartbreaking news for our defense. He didn't ever get to play defence as it was done on a punt return, he was scouted as doing good things this season. I hate pre season games.

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    John Ross, Joe Mixon and Carl Lawson live for the Bengals tonight.

    If they sure up their O-line this off season, they could be a force this year.

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    And in zero surprise at all to some, Trubisky showed the early chops of a number one QB.

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    And in zero surprise to anybody, Glennon's second pass went for a pick six.
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    Trading up to draft Mitchell doesn't make up for the terrible decision of paying Glennon big money.

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    I chuckled at the headline "Glennon throughs pick-6, finishes with 0.0 passer rating".

    Jimmy G looked good last night as did undrafted receiver Austin Carr, who could be the next great white Patriots WR. I'll be keeping an eye on how the stash him this year. Probably isn't room for him on the roster so hopefully we can keep him around on the practice squad.

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    Glennon was a reach, sure. But the out after 2017 isn't too rough, and for a franchise as woeful at the position as the Bears have continuously been the idea of doubling down hard for one year in hopes of striking some kind of success isn't entirely unreasonable. At least they took a good shit instead of just floating over the pot another full season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    I chuckled at the headline "Glennon throughs pick-6, finishes with 0.0 passer rating".

    Jimmy G looked good last night as did undrafted receiver Austin Carr, who could be the next great white Patriots WR. I'll be keeping an eye on how the stash him this year. Probably isn't room for him on the roster so hopefully we can keep him around on the practice squad.
    You should outright laugh at that headline considering "throughs" isn't a word!

    But yeah, Carr has all the incentive in the world to stay on the Pats' practice squad. Hang around and maybe somebody goes down, might end up playing three games and be in the Super Bowl. Which, knowing the Pats, means he'll end up being the SB MVP.

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    Zeke suspended 6 games, has 3 days to appeal.

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    WOW.

    Josh Brown gets 1 game after admitting to beating his wife.

    Zeke gets 6 and has yet to be proven of jack shit.

    Can we say.... white privilege.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honey_Badger View Post
    WOW.

    Josh Brown gets 1 game after admitting to beating his wife.

    Zeke gets 6 and has yet to be proven of jack shit.

    Can we say.... white privilege.
    To be fair, Josh Brown still doesn't have a contract.

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    Wasn't Brown involved in a domestic disturbance at the Pro Bowl? I mean, come on. Dude's wife was so afraid of him that the NFL had to move her to a different hotel and provide security and that warrants a one game suspension despite the baseline for domestic charges being six games?

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    Josh Brown should have gotten 6 games, too. I'm actually pretty happy with the outcome here. The NFL said 6 games is the standard suspension for domestic violence incidents, so they should stick to that. Now if Zeke appeals and it gets knocked down to 4 games due to the fact he was never charged and it's not a slam dunk case and it happened before he was in the NFL, then I'm fine with that too. But if you enact the 6-game rule then stick to it (barring extenuating circumstances). Even if things in the past have been inconsistent with this rule, it's good to START being consistent here.

    Fantasy rankings are in shambles though. Where will Zeke go if he misses 6 games? Or 4 games? The real issue will be if the appeal isn't resolved before fantasy draft time.

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    If it's only 4 games, he still goes 1st round with a solid handcuff in the later rounds. Bell had the same scenario last year and still finished as the #3 RB in fantasy football.

    That said, if it's 6 games, then he falls. That's almost half the regular season.

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    This just seems like a tough case to start being tough on. Like you said, it happened before he was in the NFL and he wasn't charged because it's not a slam dunk case. It seems like the NFL wanted to hang their hat on suspending a superstar but this might end up blowing up in their face.

    Fantasy wise, he's still a 1st rounder, depending on league scoring of course. Maybe he falls to the late 1st round but not second. I'm the 12th pick in one league and I can't imagine him falling that far. If it's upheld to six games I could see taking him in the 2nd/3rd.

    He has 3 days to appeal, so that's the 14th. NFL has 10 days to schedule the hearing so that's the 24th. It'll be tight.

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    Yeah, in a 12 man league, if you could land Freeman or Howard at 12, then get Zeke with 13, you're solid. You better get that handcuff in round 5 after taking a WR combo with pick 3 and 4.

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    That would be my plan for the most part. Possibly one of the top 5 QBs if they're available in round 3, WR in round 4, McFadden as the handcuff in round 5.

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    I just feel like the league is sitting here trying to make all these "social statements" and their doing it at the expense of the wrong people. What are they trying to prove with Kapernick and Elliott? And don't even pull the shit that Kap is not good enough to be on a team, that is crap. The guy can ball and he can do so better then half the current QB's on a team in the league. What's the point?

    That being said, shouting white privilege was a little presumptive. I apologize. 3 of the 4 members of the board who indicted and concluded results on Zeke's case were black. They seem to have some pretty strong evidence against him.

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    I think they could have covered the bases if they'd said it was a pattern of behavior. The domestic stuff last July, pulling the woman's shirt down at the Mardi Gras parade, and then the bar fight. The combination isn't a good luck.

    I'd like to see the evidence they have that the cops didn't have.

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    WHAAAAAT?!!

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    Bills apparently getting Jordan Matthews as well.

    Wild

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdestiny View Post
    Sammy Watkins to the Rams?

    WHAAAAAT?!!
    Talk about having your ADP suffer.

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    Bills get Gaines and Matthews along with 3 draft picks. Eagles get Darby. Rams get Watkins and a draft pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigAle View Post
    I think they could have covered the bases if they'd said it was a pattern of behavior. The domestic stuff last July, pulling the woman's shirt down at the Mardi Gras parade, and then the bar fight. The combination isn't a good luck.

    I'd like to see the evidence they have that the cops didn't have.
    well as a reminder, these are the pics posted to social media by his girlfriend:



    and wait, now I seem to be getting my dates mixed up. if this was last July then it was post-draft, yes? so he was already in the NFL. yea I really have no issue with the 6 games. I'm not going to say he should get off light on DV because guys before him also got off light. the Josh Brown and Ray Rice punishments were a disgrace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigAle View Post
    Talk about having your ADP suffer.
    To be fair he hasn't had a full healthy season really. If he stays healthy maybe this could be a decent trade for the Rams.

    I don't see him staying healthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    well as a reminder, these are the pics posted to social media by his girlfriend:



    and wait, now I seem to be getting my dates mixed up. if this was last July then it was post-draft, yes? so he was already in the NFL. yea I really have no issue with the 6 games. I'm not going to say he should get off light on DV because guys before him also got off light. the Josh Brown and Ray Rice punishments were a disgrace.
    I hadn't seen those before, so I stand corrected. But still, if that was on social media why didn't the cops take those into account? I'm just more confused than anything by how the cops say they don't have enough to charge him.

    Yeah, it was last July so definitely post draft. And like I said, that's 3 instances in the past year that weren't good for him to be involved in. I'm not going to say the sky is falling and he needs to get his act together, but he needs to get his act together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdestiny View Post
    To be fair he hasn't had a full healthy season really. If he stays healthy maybe this could be a decent trade for the Rams.

    I don't see him staying healthy.
    I don't see it either. His foot always pops up to be a problem.

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    Seems like they finally got a domestic violence punishment right the first time. Took a few tries, but they figured it out.

    This and the Watkins trade the same day. Crazy stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigAle View Post
    I hadn't seen those before, so I stand corrected. But still, if that was on social media why didn't the cops take those into account? I'm just more confused than anything by how the cops say they don't have enough to charge him.

    Yeah, it was last July so definitely post draft. And like I said, that's 3 instances in the past year that weren't good for him to be involved in. I'm not going to say the sky is falling and he needs to get his act together, but he needs to get his act together.
    http://static.nfl.com/static/content...0000828569.pdf

    Full letter from NFL to Zeke is there with all the details, for those who want them. In regard to why he wasn't charged:

    “For the Ezekiel Elliott matter, I personally believe that there were a series of interactions between Mr. Elliott and (his accuser) where violence occurred,” Robert S. Tobias, principal assistant city attorney in Columbus, told USA TODAY Sports in October. “However, given the totality of the circumstances, I could not firmly conclude exactly what happened. Saying something happened versus having sufficient evidence to criminally charge someone are two completely different things. Charging decisions are taken very seriously and we use best efforts to conduct thorough and detailed investigations.”

    So he says he believed violence occurred but not enough evidence. As the letter from the NFL states, not being charged with a crime isn't enough to let you off the hook with the league.

    I'm very anti-Goodell and I think their discipline has been appallingly inconsistent but I agree with what The Law just said... they seem to have finally got a DV punishment right the first time so I'm not going to criticize them for it.

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    With that being said, I know the other side of the argument is that she has been caught lying about this stuff and isn't trustworthy and wanted to ruin his career. At this moment I don't know exactly what she's been caught lying about, or the full extent of that side of the argument, so I may change my mind if I find out more of that. But instant reaction is that with the 911 calls and the photos and texts to her family and medical records, there is enough here.

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    Aguayo waived by TB

    Bust for now

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    Drafting a kicker high is a stupid thing to do. I said it at the time and a lot of people disagreed with me, but even if he'd turned out to be one of the best kickers in the league (he turned out to be one of the worst, shit happens) he probably still wouldn't have been worth that pick.

    Just to reflect, things I shit on at the time:

    -Bucs drafting Aguayo
    -The Eagles 2015 off-season
    -The Sam Bradford trade
    -The Cowboys drafting Ezekiel Elliott and the Jaguars drafting Leonard Fournette
    -The Carson Wentz and Jared Goff trades (the teams trading up to get them)
    -The RG III trade

    Got most of those right? We'll see about Wentz. Elliott was great last year, we'll see about his ability to stay on the field. Goff looked fucking terrible last year, maybe he can improve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Law View Post
    Drafting a kicker high is a stupid thing to do. I said it at the time and a lot of people disagreed with me, but even if he'd turned out to be one of the best kickers in the league (he turned out to be one of the worst, shit happens) he probably still wouldn't have been worth that pick.

    Just to reflect, things I shit on at the time:

    -Bucs drafting Aguayo
    -The Eagles 2015 off-season
    -The Sam Bradford trade
    -The Cowboys drafting Ezekiel Elliott and the Jaguars drafting Leonard Fournette
    -The Carson Wentz and Jared Goff trades (the teams trading up to get them)
    -The RG III trade

    Got most of those right? We'll see about Wentz. Elliott was great last year, we'll see about his ability to stay on the field. Goff looked fucking terrible last year, maybe he can improve.
    You shit on the Jags drafting Fournette at the time the Bucs drafted Aguayo?

    Even if you end up being wrong, that's really impressive.

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    That was a very odd pat-yourself-on-the-back post by The Law....

    -Bucs drafting Aguayo - literally everyone on the internet shat on this.
    -The Eagles 2015 off-season - this was when McCoy was traded for a guy who had just missed a year to a torn ACL, yes? I seem to remember shock and dismay from everyone including Eagles players.
    -The Sam Bradford trade - literally everyone on the internet shat on this.
    -The Cowboys drafting Ezekiel Elliott (GOOD MOVE SO FAR) and the Jaguars drafting Leonard Fournette (TBD)
    -The Carson Wentz and Jared Goff trades (the teams trading up to get them) - both TBD
    -The RG III trade - I'll give you this one I guess

    I mean props for the consistency of always shitting on teams trading up to the top of the draft for a QB. Surprised you didn't have Sanchez on your list as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    -The Sam Bradford trade - literally everyone on the internet shat on this.
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    They did, including me, but to be fair it turned out to be a decent move.

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    which Bradford trade. The one the Eagles traded to the Vikings or the one where the Eagles traded for him?\

    The Wentz trade is TBD but I am pretty confident the Eagles and the fans are 100% on board with that one

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    I assumed he meant the Vikings trade last year. If not I'll take that post back.

    Has anyone seen when the Zeke appeal is likely going to happen? Is this another one of these Brady situations where the punishment will be years down the line?

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    I would be more inclined to say the Foles/Bradford trade is a bigger failure than the Bradford/Vikings trade.

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    It's assumed the appeal will be filed by Tuesday, and then the NFL has 10 days to hold a hearing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimeSplitter View Post
    I would be more inclined to say the Foles/Bradford trade is a bigger failure than the Bradford/Vikings trade.
    I would say they are both failures. The Vikings gave up a first round pick(14th overall) for Bradford. The Eagles gave up a 2nd rounder and Foles. The Eagles ended up getting a 1 back for the 2nd rounder they gave up.

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    Bradford was fine last year. The Vikings collapsed but it wasn't his fault and he'll now be starter there for two years. And maybe longer.

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    he did have a good year. He had a decent year in 2015 as well. So in terms of his play, he played well for the teams he was traded to even though the value at the time seemed to be a little high.

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    whats the deal with Teddy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spedizzo View Post
    whats the deal with Teddy
    He's running again, but it doesn't sound like they want to risk it with him

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    Yeah, strong belief around the Twin Cities that he won't play at all this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimeSplitter View Post
    Yeah, strong belief around the Twin Cities that he won't play at all this season.
    The fact that its a conversation that they are having is remarkable

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    Agreed. Having listened to interviews, if the training staff hadn't done what they did before and on the way to the hospital, there was a real chance he was going to lose a leg.

    I like Teddy, and last season was meant to be his break out season. Just hope he can get back on the field.

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    Detroit had a D-line that was the best in the league. Now the above average guys we did have are lost to injury. How far our defense has fallen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrandolph1985 View Post
    Detroit had a D-line that was the best in the league. Now the above average guys we did have are lost to injury. How far our defense has fallen.
    Is this by any particular metric? I'd think some other units could lay claim here.

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    I should be more clear. I was referring to a few years ago, when we had Duh, Ansah Young, Vanden Bosch, among others. From a line of pro bowlers to backups has become hard to accept. I loved watching them stuff the runs, and Hyder was the only one that even reminded me of the old times.

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    Fro, Chris Scott, have you got yourselves a PS4 yet?

    https://forums.rajah.com/showthread....44#post7907644

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    A funny twist on the old "stick the rookies with the massive dinner bill" gag from the Bucs. I like it.

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/bucs-ve...194104297.html

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    Ha, that's great.

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    After watching Blake Bortles bumble fuck around last night for the Jags I think they should have Kaepernick on a plane down there today. There's talent on that roster, but they're not winning without a real QB.

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    Mike and Mike were discussing this topic this morning and they stated that the Jaguars are not even considering Kap, one bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    Fro, Chris Scott, have you got yourselves a PS4 yet?

    https://forums.rajah.com/showthread....44#post7907644
    No, but I'm still considering it. Would I need to get in before you start the league up? When does Madden 18 release?

    The console seems pretty cheap now ($285 on amazon for the 500GB model). I would probably get Madden, NBA2K, Star Wars Battlefront, and a FPS game (not sure which - would need to do some research).

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    I would recommend picking up MLB The Show. Best game for PS4.

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    Fantasy-wise, how would you rank these 6 RB's? This would be my order but there's a lot of ways you could go (ESPN rankings have Gordon tops of this bunch).

    Devonta Freeman
    Jordan Howard
    Jay Ajayi
    Melvin Gordon
    Demarco Murray
    Leonard Fournette

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    1. Freeman - #1 back with big payday
    2. Gordon - ton of opportunity in a high octane offense
    3. Murray - would be #1 if not for age and Henry
    4. Howard - if offense performs, he could easily be #1
    5. Ajayi - not sold on him
    6. Fournette - excellent player on a bad offense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honey_Badger View Post
    Mike and Mike were discussing this topic this morning and they stated that the Jaguars are not even considering Kap, one bit.
    Blake Bortles may be a garbage quarterback, but at least he stands up during the national anthem.

    As for those RBs, I'd probably go:

    1) Freeman (Atlanta will score tons, lots of redzone opportunities, will be winning and killing clock by running the ball)
    2) Gordon (narrowly, but I like San Diego's offense and he catches the ball)
    3) Murray (reliable workhorse, expect a decent season from Tennessee. Downside is Henry will start eating into his workload)
    4) Ajai (Steady guy)
    5) Howard (Really like him, but Chicago blows)
    6) Fournette (Obvious talent, but Jacksonville is going to be behind and throwing. Maybe that translates to garbage time TDs?)
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    Gordon's injury risk (played 14 and 13 games his first two seasons) and having never cracked 4 YPC are what make me knock him down, but people are high on him. 419 receiving yards in only 13 games last year so he's a big dual threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Law View Post
    As for those RBs, I'd probably go:

    1) Freeman (Atlanta will score tons, lots of redzone opportunities, will be winning and killing clock by running the ball)
    2) Gordon (narrowly, but I like San Diego's offense and he catches the ball)
    3) Murray (reliable workhorse, expect a decent season from Tennessee. Downside is Henry will start eating into his workload)
    4) Ajai (Steady guy)
    5) Howard (Really like him, but Chicago blows)
    6) Fournette (Obvious talent, but Jacksonville is going to be behind and throwing. Maybe that translates to garbage time TDs?)
    Yeah, I'd agree with this. Gordon and Freeman are interchangeable to me just because of how high powered their respective offenses are.

    I'd be happy if either fall to 12 to me. I cannot wait to draft. Two more weeks. Mock drafts are fun but I can't wait for the season to start.

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    Wow, Gordon had more touches last year in 13 games than Freeman had in 16. That's even with San Diego sucking last year and always being behind. They really feed him the rock. Looking at the Chargers roster none of the other running backs seem likely to push him for playing time. Whereas Tevin Coleman deserves touches in Atlanta.

    Still leaning Freeman because Gordon has missed some games, but there's a lot to like about Gordon's situation. Fantasy football is about opportunities, and he's likely to get a ton of them.

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    Atlanta tried too hard to get Tevin Coleman involved in their offense last year. I doubt that happens this year, or they would have never paid Freeman the money they chucked at him.

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