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    Yeah, that is rough.

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    Lester to STL is almost as ridiculous as Happ

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    Jesus the NL east sucks.

    In no universe should the Braves be 1 game out right now. But there they are. It's a race to see who can get swept in the first round of the playoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rancid_Planet View Post
    Jesus the NL east sucks.

    In no universe should the Braves be 1 game out right now. But there they are. It's a race to see who can get swept in the first round of the playoffs.
    don't be so sure of that. The Cardinals won the world series with 83 wins. Phillies and Mets have the starting pitching staff to hang with teams. The Nationals were 59-53 at this exact part of the schedule in 2019. Not saying the NL East is going to win the world series but to say they will get swept in the first round is a little silly especially because they will probably end up playing the Brewers who are good but not daunting.

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    Mets have the starting pitching to hang with teams but the game is over as soon as the starter or bullpen gives up more than two runs. Their offense is beyond putrid at this point, it's nonexistent. They could get hot though but at this point I think they need to shut down deGrom for the season.

    Not happy they traded for Baez though. Seems like a waste considering where they were when the trade deadline happened. I had high hopes for Pete Crow-Armstrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    don't be so sure of that. The Cardinals won the world series with 83 wins. Phillies and Mets have the starting pitching staff to hang with teams. The Nationals were 59-53 at this exact part of the schedule in 2019. Not saying the NL East is going to win the world series but to say they will get swept in the first round is a little silly especially because they will probably end up playing the Brewers who are good but not daunting.
    I just had hopes of the Braves being far better and the division itself not being so lame this year. I can't look at Philly the Mets or Atlanta and see a winner here. Everyone has such huge glaring weaknesses.

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    Unvaxxed Rizzo gets Rona.

    Sounds like a Dr. Suess book.

    Edit - he is a cancer survivor also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOCONUT View Post
    Unvaxxed Rizzo gets Rona.

    Sounds like a Dr. Suess book.

    Edit - he is a cancer survivor also.
    Well he's part of a 3rd outbreak within the Yankees organization this year alone. However, he is not just an anti vaxxer. He's made smart statements on why he has chose not to get it. He will be fine. He's a strong and beautiful man. I miss you rizzo

    The Ricketts need to go.

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    The Rizzo Variant

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    Luke Voit with the go ahead bomb in the 9th, on Rizzo day, after complaining about the Rizzo acquisition is hitting the palate like a fine wine right now.

    Poetry.

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    Maybe the Rockies will consider a mascot name change, lol..

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    Luke is a cry baby man child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percussion View Post
    Maybe the Rockies will consider a mascot name change, lol..
    Lewis Brinson literally hit a Dinger the next night. Pretty awesome.

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    This Field of Dreams game is pretty damn cool.

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    Eloy Jimenez is a monster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    This Field of Dreams game is pretty damn cool.
    I was dubious when I heard the idea at first but I have been watching the whole time. So cool.

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    Kopech throws GAS. I think he gets extra power from his tiny little pony tail.

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    WHAT A GAME

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    They should move the fences back 15 feet and play the World Series there. Maybe the coolest baseball setting ever.

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    Very cool set up. I agree with Loco on the world series part. They should have saved it just for that. Those balls were fucking popping though. Holy hell.

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    They could play the one-game wildcard playoff there. Having that game be "neutral site" would be nice and couldn't pick another place better

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    That was the first baseball game I went out of my way to check out since the Cubs won the World Series. I've only been to that place once with my grandparents years ago, we just drove by it. I hope they do have another game out there it would be nice to go especially if the Cubs are playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    That was the first baseball game I went out of my way to check out since the Cubs won the World Series. I've only been to that place once with my grandparents years ago, we just drove by it. I hope they do have another game out there it would be nice to go especially if the Cubs are playing.
    Let's see what the cubs look like next year before putting them there.

    The Ricketts are more interested in building sports bet bookie building on wrigley than they are running a baseball team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virms View Post
    Let's see what the cubs look like next year before putting them there.

    The Ricketts are more interested in building sports bet bookie building on wrigley than they are running a baseball team.
    It's more about the Cubs being the closest thing we have to a professional team, plus the Iowa Cubs. I barely follow the sport these days, and when I do I fall asleep and dream about Shawn Dunston and Andre Dawson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    It's more about the Cubs being the closest thing we have to a professional team, plus the Iowa Cubs. I barely follow the sport these days, and when I do I fall asleep and dream about Shawn Dunston and Andre Dawson.
    I told a buddy I will never buy another cubs jersey of a current player. My money is going to the Dawson, Sandberg, banks, Santos, dunston, Williams, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virms View Post
    I told a buddy I will never buy another cubs jersey of a current player. My money is going to the Dawson, Sandberg, banks, Santos, dunston, Williams, etc.
    LOL Yeah I'm all about the classics. Don't forget Grace!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    LOL Yeah I'm all about the classics. Don't forget Grace!
    Yep he would have to be in. I've still got a Kerry wood jersey and I'll lump him in as a classic cub. Kinda torn on Sosa though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virms View Post
    Yep he would have to be in. I've still got a Kerry wood jersey and I'll lump him in as a classic cub. Kinda torn on Sosa though.
    Gotta have Sosa. Him and Mark made baseball interesting again after almost a decade of Braves and boredom. Yeah fuck the Braves and especially fuck you Dave Justice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virms View Post
    Yep he would have to be in. I've still got a Kerry wood jersey and I'll lump him in as a classic cub. Kinda torn on Sosa though.



    Sosa deserves all the damn love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caito View Post
    Sosa deserves all the damn love.
    Hes been a salty dog.

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    So has Cubs ownership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caito View Post
    So has Cubs ownership.
    Well....

    Ran a fraud non profit charity organization
    Corked bat
    The obvious lying of steroids
    "Back spasms" from sneezing
    Bring a dick to the press
    Arriving late to a game and leaving 15 minutes later because he wasn't playing.
    Turned himself white.

    Granted the last one was years later but still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virms View Post
    Bring a dick to the press
    That sounds terrifying..

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    Oof. Being a dick to the press.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percussion View Post
    That sounds terrifying..
    Don't worry it was a corked dork.

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    Red Sox - Yankees wild card game at Fenway. Oh yes. This should be fun.

    And it was a dramatic finish to the season yesterday by both teams to get us here. Great comeback win by the Sox after being down 5-1.

    Condolences to the Blue Jays and Mariners.

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    After his last trip to Boston, the Red Sox should intentionally walk Stanton every time he comes to the plate.

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    I cannot see the flaw in that logic

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    Go Sox.

    Stanton really thought he had a homer in the 1st lol nope

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    the mvp of this game is the green monster

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    Red Sox may not win another game all year.


    I don’t care. Ending the Yankees season and sending their fans into a state of absolute lunacy is worth it, considering early season projections didn’t have Sox making playoffs.

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    Ya, well that was a baseball game.

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    If I did the math right, Cole made just under $400K for his work yesterday.

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    Kermit the Frog sounding bum. For Petes Sake

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    The Red Sox mounted a nice comeback in game 2, and then the classic extra innings game last night with the highly debatable ground-rule-double ruling when the ball went off the wall then hit hard off the outfielder's body then went over the wall and out of play. The runner from 1st probably should have scored since he was off on the pitch but they put him on third. The Sox ended up winning by 2 so it sort of didn't matter, although you can make the case things would have happened differently if they let that run score.

    In any event, it's been a good series so far. Here's hoping the Red Sox can close it out tonight at Fenway in what could be a high scoring game because both pitching staffs are pretty well exhausted.

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    Braves just a couple outs from the NLCS boys...

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    5th straight LCS appearance, just.. motherfucker that's nice..

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    Just makes it even stupider that they cheated. Clearly they have a good team, but now they will only be synonymous with garbage bins.

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    Eh, they're legitimately dumbshits for bothering with the lengths of their nonsense, absolutely. But I've no doubt that they simply felt caught up in an arms race with every other team - and make no mistake there were others - who were trying to find that particular edge and of course they took it too far. But I believe the data's shown that they really gained no edge and they even abandoned the practice as that was the case. Just a terrible look all around and if everyone wants to try and cancel culture them into oblivion then tha's fine, whatever. Apple watches and other methods are on record that all point to the same intent, they're just being judged on the optics of their unique brand of shithousery and being to a degree scapegoated as to not out a largely league-wide practice ala the steroid era.

    But again, I'm not flat out apologizing for their bs, they deserve to be called out, it was terribly juvenile and ultimately just plain wrong. It also doesn't take one wit away from their accomplishments for me.

    Now minus Verlander, minus Cole, minus Springer, and minus any extracurricular junk it's ALCS season again and I'm pretty effin cool with that.
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    The Astros cheated and won. It's not stupid that they cheated it's quite smart because it worked. Still, they only have 1 title which is (so far) a disappointment. They could easily be a 2 title team, and maybe they'll get it this year but not if my Red Sox have anything to say. The Stros need the second title to dispel the cheating aura just like the Patriots needed it after their scandals. Not to say I am comparing the severity because the Astros were much worse offenders, but the public perception is about the same.

    My advice to Houston fans would be to not let the cheating thing bother you - but if it does, then the only cure is another title. Then people can't say shit.

    Sox in 6.

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    I've yet to see any data that their cheating actually contributed in working to their advantage. If you have then that's fair. And so in that way it was stupid, unnecessarily so.

    The 1 title is definitely a bit disappointing. But I'm not saddened by it. The organization tanked so obviously and epically with the rare successful result of half a decade of seasonal to the wire contention, including the first ever franchise championship, that's continuing through this very day. So I'm good with the at large picture, but ya, one more this year would really seal the deal.

    Stros in 7.

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    The data is pretty evident:

    illegal video feed + trash can banging = know what pitch is coming next

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    That's the intent, which is the same shit intent as apple watches and whatever else any other team was attempting at the time. It was stupid and shit and condemnable.

    I'm not sure what you're missing here though. I'm talking about any data that the cheating actually had a net positive effect on their actual play. The data I've seen is that it in fact didn't.

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    I have not looked at the data lately or probably in the way you have, but I remember posting this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    Some home/road OPS splits for the Astros from the 2017 playoff run.

    Altuve home: 1.541
    Altuve road: .497

    Correa home: 1.164
    Correa road: .626

    Bregman home: .849
    Bregman road: .508

    McCann home: .849
    McCann road: .198

    Gattis home: 1.014
    Gattis road: .533

    Gurriel home: .937
    Gurriel road: .797

    I'm not really trying to harp on the cheating thing (although now I am), I was only weighing in on what you guys were talking about. But I don't agree with your characterization of it as juvenile and nonsensical. I mean I know what you're saying, but let's not act like it wasn't a sophisticated scheme that took sign stealing to another level. And the buzzer under the jersey theory... I mean it was odd that Altuve didn't want his jersey taken off.

    There were other cheating scandals, sure, but none that I'm aware of involved an audio cue to the hitter. The distinction is major - being able to steal signs in every at bat, or only being able to steal signs when you have a runner on 2nd base to relay it to the batter.

    That all being said, I'm not an asterisk guy. The Astros won their title and it can't be taken away. Even if it could be taken away, I wouldn't be in favor of that. They won.

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    That's fair, but also..

    https://today.duke.edu/2020/07/did-c...n-world-series

    https://www.latimes.com/business/sto...ating-analysis

    https://climbingtalshill.com/2021/03...ng-didnt-help/

    And again, intent is important. If you intent to cheat and attempt it then you're a full blown cheater. Being good at it matters, and the stats for their 'cue to the hitter' method is not really conclusive that they were, but actually aiming to do so is key. Many others aimed to do so and the Stros were right there at the front. And it was juvenile in so far as taking a sophomoric thing like banging trash cans as far as they did. Also the behind the scenes bickering about to do so or not that took place looks just as Three Stooges in hindsight.

    I didn't care to break the subject down then and I'm not thrilled to now. I didn't even bring it up. I imagine this is what it was like being a Pats fan in their heyday though so ok I guess.

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    Well it all worked out great for the Pats in the end and that was a very fun time looking back on it

    And of course the fun thing we haven't mentioned yet is that Alex Cora is now the Red Sox manager so I presume this will be brought up this week to some extent. Cheater or not, Cora is the man in my book.

    Quote Originally Posted by Percussion View Post
    Also the behind the scenes bickering about to do so or not that took place looks just as Three Stooges in hindsight.
    I'm not trying to drag this on any further but just curious what you're referring to here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    Well it all worked out great for the Pats in the end and that was a very fun time looking back on it

    And of course the fun thing we haven't mentioned yet is that Alex Cora is now the Red Sox manager so I presume this will be brought up this week to some extent. Cheater or not, Cora is the man in my book.

    I'm not trying to drag this on any further but just curious what you're referring to here?
    The reports of Beltran being a central figure while others like Altuve, and most importantly Hinch, wanted nothing do with it. Like it wasn't some thoroughly thought out villainous plot amongst the entire clubhouse. Hell it was a former player who outed them. The biggest takeaway was that Hinch was a new-ish manager enough that clubhouse leaders like Beltran, and yes to some extent Cora, were pushing the issue to a point he had trouble controlling. He admitted himself that he should have done a better job putting a stop to the nonsense, even after breaking a video monitor or whatever to try and prove a point that the players involved blew off and continued on.

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    I'm loving this for my Braves. Every single moment is just gravy on this season. Because the Braves

    Best pitcher = Mike Soroka - hasn't pitched once all season

    Best power hitter = Marcel Ozuna - suspended since before the all star break.

    Best all around player = Ron Acuna - out for the season with an ACL.

    No reason to be here. But so glad we are.

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    And here's how fucked up baseball is, if the Dodgers win the series against the Giants then the Braves get home field advantage in the NLCS.

    The Braves won 88 games.
    Dodgers won 106.

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    Dodgers probably should’ve won the division then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caito View Post
    Dodgers probably should’ve won the division then
    Its just silly. There's a way to do this where winning the division still means something and teams all compete right down to the last game instead of coasting the last two weeks. In no universe does Atlanta deserve home field in these playoffs. We were a flat out mediocre at best team for the first two thirds of the season.

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    I think the Dodgers winning 100 games and being a wild card is the exception, not the rule. I understand your logic, but if the Dodgers haven't won their NLDS round yet. Might not be a topic tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimeSplitter View Post
    I think the Dodgers winning 100 games and being a wild card is the exception, not the rule. I understand your logic, but if the Dodgers haven't won their NLDS round yet. Might not be a topic tomorrow.
    Would it really fuck up people's shit that bad to just give home field to the team with the most wins? Winning the division would mean something still. It would mean you get to go to the playoffs.

    And let's not use tradition as a reason. Because traditionally there shouldn't be divisions or playoffs. This is all shit we just made up so why not make it make sense?

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    Heck of a pitcher's duel for a winner-advances-loser-goes home game.

    Cody Bellinger is a great player

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    Terrible ending with that checked swing strike call

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    Braves/Dodgers was epic last year. Let's do it again.

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    Good game, horrible ending. Braves/Dodgers should be fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rancid_Planet View Post
    Its just silly. There's a way to do this where winning the division still means something and teams all compete right down to the last game instead of coasting the last two weeks. In no universe does Atlanta deserve home field in these playoffs. We were a flat out mediocre at best team for the first two thirds of the season.
    They are likely to expand the playoffs instead of reformatting it. Apparently the CBA is up once the season is over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimeSplitter View Post
    They are likely to expand the playoffs instead of reformatting it. Apparently the CBA is up once the season is over.
    Ugh yeah. Speaking of changing shit. I hate it. This is gonna turn into hockey or basketball. Everyone is a playoff team. Fucking hate it.

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    The fact that there is a playoff game for the Wildcard spot is stupid as is.

    Anybody but the Assholes, I mean Astros.

    PS. Fuck Tom Glavine.
    Last edited by Tyson; October 15th, 2021 at 9:30 PM.

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    Too much offense for Atlanta to compete with. I predict LA in 6.

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