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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    @LOCONUT has long been on the anti steroid platform so he gets credit for consistency. I take it that you think no one should be allowed into the Hall who played in the steroid era? Just ban everyone from that time period from induction?
    Yes. But not even only that...


    Jeter ONLY EVER led in:

    1997: PA
    1998: runs
    1999: PA, hits
    Later years:
    2005: PA
    2010: PA
    2012: PA, AB, hits.


    He showed up for work, that's it. He is a unanimous hall of Famer the way Thor is a real God. It's just great mythology.

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    He has 5 World Series. He is 6th all-time in hits. He married Hannah Davis.

    Those are his top 3 career highlights.

    Ironically, he never won a MVP award.

    That said, he is definitely a Hall of Famer.

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    Another great stat, that more so highlights the greatness of Mike Trout, is the fact that Mike Trout already has a higher WAR than Jeter in his career. Interestingly, Trout only has 9 years under his belt, while Jeter accounted for 20 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honey_Badger View Post
    He has 5 World Series. He is 6th all-time in hits. He married Hannah Davis.

    Those are his top 3 career highlights.

    Ironically, he never won a MVP award.

    That said, he is definitely a Hall of Famer.
    This describes Jeters entire legacy rather well.

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    We should just induct anyone who want to go in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOCONUT View Post
    We should just induct anyone who want to go in.
    I think that already happened once Harold Baines got in.

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    Idk. I think that once it’s pretty apparent that 99% of the (in this case) baseball “world” has the complete opposite of opinion of yours when it comes to a players HoF status (on his first ballot as well), then maybe your opinion on that particular subject just isn’t that good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caito View Post
    Idk. I think that once it’s pretty apparent that 99% of the (in this case) baseball “world” has the complete opposite of opinion of yours when it comes to a players HoF status (on his first ballot as well), then maybe your opinion on that particular subject just isn’t that good.
    Or maybe the HOF is broken. Maybe when guys like Pete Rose arent in the Hall and media darlings who dont have remotely acceptable stats within their generation are in that you should open your eyes as a fan and stop blindly trusting baseball writers and politicians.

    I assume you are either from NY or a Yankee homer or both.

    Your argument which is based on nothing only makes mine stronger. Thanks.

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    I have actual stats and metrics to support mine. Your position is literally "you are wrong because everyone loves him". Its completely insane how overrated and shitty Derek Jeter was as a player.

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    Lots of guys were on championship teams and had tons of at bats. Show me the money on why Jeter should be in the Hall and I will acknowledge it.

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    I know this will blow your mind and all, but you don’t exactly have a Jeter lover here....



    Im a Red Sox fan.

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    Jeter is overrated.

    He also deserves to be in the hall. So does Pete Rose.

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    The whole first ballot/unanimous is all bullshit anyways.

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    Agree with it or not, Pete Rose isn’t in for a reason. He’s banned. If he wasn’t, he’d be in.

    You wanna say he shouldn’t be banned, different argument. But he is, so bringing him into it is a meritless point.

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    What are Jeters credentials that make him Hall worthy other than he is a masterful politician and media darling?

    More people should be discussing it, not dismissing it. Its embarassing. The guy has done nothing other than be friends with a bunch of proven cheaters.

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    I don't really care to defend Jeter to a crazy nut but it's a good opportunity to look at his stats. What I see when I look at them:

    100 runs scored in 13 different seasons
    200 hits in 8 different seasons
    Career average .310 (.308 in postseason)
    Career OPS .817 (.838 in postseason)
    11th all time in runs
    7th all time in at bats
    Never had the typical steroid spike in power
    Infinitely fewer MVP awards than Dustin Pedroia

    It's a good career. A hall of fame career, even if you take away the rings. Without the rings and playoff dramatics I think he's still 1st ballot. Maybe 2nd ballot at worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caito View Post
    Agree with it or not, Pete Rose isn’t in for a reason. He’s banned. If he wasn’t, he’d be in.

    You wanna say he shouldn’t be banned, different argument. But he is, so bringing him into it is a meritless point.
    It's not meritless. The discussion I am having is "should Jeter be in the Hall". Of course the standards and comparisons are relevant. They are the bar.

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    Stop listing AT BATS as a big accomplishment. He also saw tons of meatballs because of the lineup he was in. Joke entrant. The stats Fro listed arent hall worthy anyway.

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    The good news is that I will never pay another $1 towards anything MLB related for the foreseeable future. They have lost me completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOCONUT View Post
    Stop listing AT BATS as a big accomplishment. He also saw tons of meatballs because of the lineup he was in. Joke entrant. The stats Fro listed arent hall worthy anyway.
    Longevity is important to me when it comes to sports player legacies. In the history of this old ass sport, if only 6 guys swung the bat more times than you, that's cool. I know there are factors including where you bat in the lineup and how much you walk, but still.

    In any event, I think the first two stats I posted are more than enough to get you into the hall.

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    I also don't know how the BBWAA's votes for the Hall is MLB's fault.

    LOCO just seems to want to argue about something because his Dodgers were cheated out of the title.

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    Jeters best friend is Jorge Posada who pisses on his hands to harden them. These sexual deviants belong no where near Cooperstown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    I also don't know how the BBWAA's votes for the Hall is MLB's fault.

    LOCO just seems to want to argue about something because his Dodgers were cheated out of the title.
    I dont even know if that last part is true. The Dodgers were likely also cheating and if they werent, I still dont look at them as sole victims. Way too huge a domino affect.

    It's definitely contributing to my ban on spending money toward baseball though. My overall distaste is at an all time high. In fairness, my overall satisfaction from baseball has been waning for years because of issues like this. My team is real good every year and I still am getting more and more disillusioned by the approved corruption and money grabbing.

    Inducting scumbags like Jeter only reinforces that baseball is trending in a dire direction.

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    Jeter wasnt even the best SS on his own team.

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    I remember a couple seasons ago the Brewers were claiming the dodgers were using technology and video room tape to steal signs. Seems like a big coincidence. Hopefully my team is clean but since this commissioner clearly has no control and they were clearly rigging the CBA to help big market teams be there at the end, I dont see any real reason to trust any of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kneeneighbor View Post
    Jeter wasnt even the best SS on his own team.
    Truth doesnt matter. Only that he was Captain!!

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    Well the other was definitely on steroids.

    But what in particular are you referring to by the approved corruption and money grabbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOCONUT View Post
    It's not meritless. The discussion I am having is "should Jeter be in the Hall". Of course the standards and comparisons are relevant. They are the bar.

    When a guy who is legit not allowed to be in the HoF, using that person is a shitty comparison. Try someone who, right or wrong, isn’t banned from baseball.

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    Well I brought him up because of the obvious (basically) everyone over 3000 hits makes the Hall.

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    My fault then, I thought Loco brought him up.

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    Jeter isn't the poster boy for steroids even if he did them. His defining stat (3000 hits) is a skill stat not a power one. So its fine to put him in. You just cant ever let the poster boys in because it sends the wrong message.

    In Mets news they've hired their new manager. Luis Rojas.

    If youve never heard of him, that makes total fucking sense because hes like 37 or 38 and never played in the bigs.

    Cause why would you want Joe Girardi right? When you can have a guy thats probably maybe the 4th oldest guy in the duggout?

    But hey he's Moises Alou's little brother so there you go.

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    Moises Alou also pisses on his hands. True story.

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    Yeah, I have a buddy who is a Mets fan (also a Giants fam so he is a miserable sports fan ALOT). All he even knows about the guy is he is in the organization already. They took such a ricochet shot from this whole Astros thing, and at first I wanna feel bad about it cuz the Mets did nothing.... then I remember that there had been talk for years that Astros were doing something, cheating with cameras or signs in some way, and if the Mets front office really didn’t know like BVW tried telling ppl, they are either lying, or really stupid.

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    Jeter is a well known joke among real players and insiders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rancid_Planet View Post
    Jeter isn't the poster boy for steroids even if he did them. His defining stat (3000 hits) is a skill stat not a power one. So its fine to put him in. You just cant ever let the poster boys in because it sends the wrong message.

    In Mets news they've hired their new manager. Luis Rojas.

    If youve never heard of him, that makes total fucking sense because hes like 37 or 38 and never played in the bigs.

    Cause why would you want Joe Girardi right? When you can have a guy thats probably maybe the 4th oldest guy in the duggout?

    But hey he's Moises Alou's little brother so there you go.

    Quote Originally Posted by Caito View Post
    Yeah, I have a buddy who is a Mets fan (also a Giants fam so he is a miserable sports fan ALOT). All he even knows about the guy is he is in the organization already. They took such a ricochet shot from this whole Astros thing, and at first I wanna feel bad about it cuz the Mets did nothing.... then I remember that there had been talk for years that Astros were doing something, cheating with cameras or signs in some way, and if the Mets front office really didn’t know like BVW tried telling ppl, they are either lying, or really stupid.
    Rojas has been a coach/manager in the Mets farm system for over a decade. He's heavy into analytics, which is a change I think most Mets fans will welcome. He has managed/coached most of the Mets young "core" players including Alonso, McNeil, Smith, Rosario, and Nimmo. He has been praised for his even-keeled style of management by those very same players.

    It's not like they hired a guy off the street who had never managed before at any level. Rojas was going to get a manager job somewhere, probably in the very near future, so I'm glad it was with the Mets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigAl View Post
    Rojas has been a coach/manager in the Mets farm system for over a decade. He's heavy into analytics, which is a change I think most Mets fans will welcome. He has managed/coached most of the Mets young "core" players including Alonso, McNeil, Smith, Rosario, and Nimmo. He has been praised for his even-keeled style of management by those very same players.

    It's not like they hired a guy off the street who had never managed before at any level. Rojas was going to get a manager job somewhere, probably in the very near future, so I'm glad it was with the Mets.
    Oh...well then. Good job Mets.

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    Well the last few big names are finally settling into place. The Dbacks pull off the Sterling Marte trade with the Pirates and the Reds add yet another piece by signing Nick Castellanos to a 4 year deal.

    Inching closer to spring.

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    Cheaters.

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    I just don’t get the Pirates and what they are trying to do.

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    I'm just happy the Mets didn't trade for Marte.

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    It really sucks for Derek Shelton, the guy who just became the Pirates manager. He was a great influence for the Twins last season, but now he is looking to lead a team through a rebuild and will likely be fired before they become competitive.

    Also, if they trade Chris Archer the whole team will make less than Mike Trout this year.

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    The Pirates have done more rebuilds through shotty trades than any team in history. Their owner spends too much time with the accountant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caito View Post
    I just don’t get the Pirates and what they are trying to do.
    They're just cheap. Too cheap. That great fanbase deserves more.

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    What rebuild? All they do is cut and cut and cut. When is the last time they really looked like they had a positive direction they were going into? They are cheap, like Rancid says. And it sucks.

    I'm still gonna try to make it out to Pitt this year to take in a game. I hear its a great park.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caito View Post
    What rebuild? All they do is cut and cut and cut. When is the last time they really looked like they had a positive direction they were going into? They are cheap, like Rancid says. And it sucks.

    I'm still gonna try to make it out to Pitt this year to take in a game. I hear its a great park.
    That park is stunnigly beautiful on tv. OMG might be my favorite park to watch games in.

    I just have a ton of respect for the Pirates because I can remember those Barry Bonds, Bobby Bonilla, Andy Van Slyke years. The Braves and Pirates had some epic showdowns back then. That was fucking baseball man.

    But ever since, unless its just a year where all the young guys are on fire, they never compete. Wont sign anyone to an extension. Just develop and trade. Develop and trade. The league needs to get on their ass.

    48 million dollar payroll. Fucking 48 million. 80 million under league average. What fucking bullshit. You cant afford to spend more than that? Then the league needs to force your cheap/broke ass out and let a serious owner come in.
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    Their payroll is dangerously close to being worth what Mike Trout is being paid a year.

    Think about that.

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    Its insanity. The shit these owners and ownership groups get away with.

    80 million minimum payroll and it goes up as the league average goes up. Bottom line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rancid_Planet View Post
    That park is stunnigly beautiful on tv. OMG might be my favorite park to watch games in.

    I just have a ton of respect for the Pirates because I can remember those Barry Bonds, Bobby Bonilla, Andy Van Slyke years. The Braves and Pirates had some epic showdowns back then. That was fucking baseball man.

    But ever since, unless its just a year where all the young guys are on fire, they never compete. Wont sign anyone to an extension. Just develop and trade. Develop and trade. The league needs to get on their ass.

    48 million dollar payroll. Fucking 48 million. 80 million under league average. What fucking bullshit. You cant afford to spend more than that? Then the league needs to force your cheap/broke ass out and let a serious owner come in.
    Remember when Jason Kendall broke his ankle trying to beat out a grounder? Oof. That was brutal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rancid_Planet View Post
    Its insanity. The shit these owners and ownership groups get away with.

    80 million minimum payroll and it goes up as the league average goes up. Bottom line.
    Was it Loria that made it obvious he made more money putting out a shit product and collecting luxury tax revenue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigAl View Post
    Remember when Jason Kendall broke his ankle trying to beat out a grounder? Oof. That was brutal.
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    Omg yes. I just grabbed my ankle thinking about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caito View Post
    Dusty Baker to manage the Astros
    Well let's hope they dont walk too many guys and "clog up the bases" lol.

    That is a PR move if I've ever seen one. Get pawpaw Dusty in there. Everybody loves him.

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    I remember watching that highlight with a friend and thinking “ow that looked like it hu-OH FUCK IS THAT HIS ANKLE BONE STICKING THROUGH HIS SOCK??!!”

    Happy to hear Dusty got the Astros job. I’ll have to send a card of his to spring training to see if he’ll sign it.

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    Lots of Stros fans here bemoaning the hire. I happen to like it. It's a one-, maybe two-, year tourniquet job in the midst of a closing but still completely viable window. All the controversy he's managed through if he can just keep the thing on the road, be good ol' Dusty to the media and opposing teams, and turn the lineup card in in time the talent can compete. And the front office regroups and looks for a loom long-term solution in the meantime.

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    This just leaves my Red Sox without a manager. Can't say I am happy about that.

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    Pirates playoffs 2013, 2014 and 2015. Everyone acting like its been forever. Thats 4 years ago.

    Mariners 18 years
    Marlins 16 years
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    I remember the time I went to Pittsburgh and left with a discounted Oliver Perez t-shirt from the store. Nice ballpark and city, they deserve better than what gets put on the field. That trade for Archer has been a big disaster. It's reasons like this why the Rays are so good year after year. What they're doing is what a lot of these underperforming teams should be able to do - succeed without having any high paid superstars on the roster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kneeneighbor View Post
    Pirates playoffs 2013, 2014 and 2015. Everyone acting like its been forever. Thats 4 years ago.

    Mariners 18 years
    Marlins 16 years
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    White Sox 11years
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    Reds 6
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    Like I said, when they get a group of youngsters who produce and get hot at the same time, they can have success. But that only makes it more frustrating. With that organization's ability to grow young talent, they could spend money at league average rates and contend every single year. Same can be said for the Royals. Who are also cheap bastards.

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    Rest of their division is pretty good right now. Brewers, Cubs and Cardinals have been good for a while. Reds are a trendy pick right now. Nothing wrong with the Pirates re-tooling. Especially since the Archer trade did not work out for them.
    Last edited by Kneeneighbor; January 29th, 2020 at 11:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kneeneighbor View Post
    Pirates playoffs 2013, 2014 and 2015. Everyone acting like its been forever. Thats 4 years ago.

    Mariners 18 years
    Marlins 16 years
    Padres 13 years
    White Sox 11years
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    Reds 6
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    some of those teams have world series wins or appearances during that time though. have the pirates made it past the wildcard game? Mariners, reds, and Padres have been shit yes. Marlins have 1997 and 2003 to hang on at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    some of those teams have world series wins or appearances during that time though. have the pirates made it past the wildcard game? Mariners, reds, and Padres have been shit yes. Marlins have 1997 and 2003 to hang on at least.
    2013 they lost in the divisional series.

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    Looks like the Kris Bryant saga is over. He lost. Big surprise.

    Now do the cubs try and trade him?

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    Anyone involved with any sports card breaks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rancid_Planet View Post
    Looks like the Kris Bryant saga is over. He lost. Big surprise.

    Now do the cubs try and trade him?
    Is he a free agent after this year? If so, I think they have to try to trade him at the deadline if they’re out of it. I’d imagine there’s a 0% chance he re-signs with them because of this bullshit.

    Service time manipulation must be at the top of the next CBA.

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    Two years after this year, or two years including this year? Either way I definitely think he's traded if the Cubs aren't in the hunt. A minimum of another year of control of Bryant would be tough to pass up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kneeneighbor View Post
    Anyone involved with any sports card breaks?
    Haven't done any but I've always been curious. Do you pay by the team for each break?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigAl View Post
    Haven't done any but I've always been curious. Do you pay by the team for each break?
    There are a few different types I have seen:

    1. Flat price, you get a random team
    2. Varibile price you pick your team
    3. Varribile price pick a division

    I just started doing a few but am interested in finding other avenues. I wouldnt mind even doing it myself and cutting the cost to everyone. Some breaks they are making cash hand over fist.

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    Yeah I've only seen the options where you pick a team with a variable price. I get the appeal but if I'm going to spend money I'd rather just buy the card I'm looking for rather than chance not getting anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kneeneighbor View Post
    Anyone involved with any sports card breaks?
    Phil Hughes Twitter seems to be all about that. It's beyond me though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigAl View Post
    Yeah I've only seen the options where you pick a team with a variable price. I get the appeal but if I'm going to spend money I'd rather just buy the card I'm looking for rather than chance not getting anything.
    I think the allure of it is if you are not someone who wants to collect a whole set or is just chasing specific teams. It also appeals to people who want to buy in and are cool with whoever they get but do not want to invest $150 on a case themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bagel View Post
    Phil Hughes Twitter seems to be all about that. It's beyond me though.
    Phil and I have been in a bunch of the same breaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kneeneighbor View Post
    I think the allure of it is if you are not someone who wants to collect a whole set or is just chasing specific teams. It also appeals to people who want to buy in and are cool with whoever they get but do not want to invest $150 on a case themselves.



    Phil and I have been in a bunch of the same breaks.
    The price of a box of cards is $150? That's crazy, I didn't know that! I never looked at them much at my local card store, I'm more the type of guy who goes in and buys the cards they're looking for. Have you ever done a break and got nothing out of it?

    I love the archive sets that look like the 80s cards. Topps does them usually, not sure about Upper Deck or any other companies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigAl View Post
    The price of a box of cards is $150? That's crazy, I didn't know that! I never looked at them much at my local card store, I'm more the type of guy who goes in and buys the cards they're looking for. Have you ever done a break and got nothing out of it?

    I love the archive sets that look like the 80s cards. Topps does them usually, not sure about Upper Deck or any other companies.
    I still have an entire closet of Topps cards from the 80s and 90s. Have no idea what to do with them but Dad and I spend a lot of time on them together so I can't get rid of them really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew View Post
    explain to me how this process works

    Long story short you purchase a stake in the opening of a box of cards. I've seen it done by team but Knee said you can go by division as well for some breaks. if any of those teams' players come up when they're opening the box, you get those cards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _me View Post
    I still have an entire closet of Topps cards from the 80s and 90s. Have no idea what to do with them but Dad and I spend a lot of time on them together so I can't get rid of them really.

    1987 Topps is a great set. Those are the ones that have the wood background. I just went through mine last year and found a Bo Jackson rookie card from that year. I might look into having it graded because it's in perfect condition. No idea how I got that card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew View Post
    explain to me how this process works
    Lets say we are opening a box of NFL Obsidian Cards. We get 32 guys. Everyone throws in $13. Then on live youtube video the guy uses random.org to randomize the teams to the guys who bought in. Next the guy on the video opens all of the packs in the box and we go through every card. The cards with players on your team are then sent to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigAl View Post
    The price of a box of cards is $150? That's crazy, I didn't know that! I never looked at them much at my local card store, I'm more the type of guy who goes in and buys the cards they're looking for. Have you ever done a break and got nothing out of it?

    I love the archive sets that look like the 80s cards. Topps does them usually, not sure about Upper Deck or any other companies.
    I have been in a break where I got shut out. It sucks but usually it only happens when you have a single box break with few cards, those tend to be cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kneeneighbor View Post
    I have been in a break where I got shut out. It sucks but usually it only happens when you have a single box break with few cards, those tend to be cheap.

    That's not too bad then. You ever get anything really good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kneeneighbor View Post
    Anyone involved with any sports card breaks?
    Yea

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew View Post
    explain to me how this process works
    Most breakers do case breaks.
    Pick your team or random team.
    PYT is always gonna cost you more.
    Random is cheaper, but you’re not always guaranteed to get a good team.
    1 box breaks are rare.
    Lot of breakers also do mixers, which is breaks with all sorts of different product from whatever sport you’re breaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigAl View Post
    That's not too bad then. You ever get anything really good?
    Only been at it for about 2 months. Nothing major yet but I did get a TJ Hockenson Obsidian Orange Mosaic Material 49/50 and a Jahlani Tavai Orange Obsidian 2/50. Those were in the same pull. I also just got a redemption card for a Drew Lock Rookie Eruption Electric Etch Orange numbered to 50.


    Quote Originally Posted by hithit View Post
    Yea
    Where at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hithit View Post
    Most breakers do case breaks.
    Pick your team or random team.
    PYT is always gonna cost you more.
    Random is cheaper, but you’re not always guaranteed to get a good team.
    1 box breaks are rare.
    Lot of breakers also do mixers, which is breaks with all sorts of different product from whatever sport you’re breaking.
    I am on Midwest Box Breaks and they break single boxes all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigAl View Post
    1987 Topps is a great set. Those are the ones that have the wood background. I just went through mine last year and found a Bo Jackson rookie card from that year. I might look into having it graded because it's in perfect condition. No idea how I got that card.
    Bonds, McGwire, Maddux, Jackson, Canseco, Larkin. It really is a who's who of rookie cards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _me View Post
    Bonds, McGwire, Maddux, Jackson, Canseco, Larkin. It really is a who's who of rookie cards.
    And Palmeiro.

    I just sent out Larkin, Canseco, and Palmeiro rookies from that year to try to get the signed.

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    okay you throw down on these breaks or whatever, how do you decide who gets what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew View Post
    okay you throw down on these breaks or whatever, how do you decide who gets what?
    It goes by team or division usually. So if you pick the Bills, you get all the Bills cards. If you pick the AFC West, you get all the cards of the teams from the AFC West.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew View Post
    okay you throw down on these breaks or whatever, how do you decide who gets what?
    There are a few different ways:

    1. Everyone pays the same price and the teams are randomized.
    2. There are different prices for different teams and you pick your team when you buy.
    3. A variation of those above but done with divisions.

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    They should do a "draft" type of thing where the draft order is randomized and you just pick the card you want, one at a time, until there's no cards left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigAl View Post
    They should do a "draft" type of thing where the draft order is randomized and you just pick the card you want, one at a time, until there's no cards left.
    I have seen one where they randomize a draft order of teams before the boxes are opened.

    The time it would take to draft each card from the break would be pain staking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kneeneighbor View Post
    I have seen one where they randomize a draft order of teams before the boxes are opened.

    The time it would take to draft each card from the break would be pain staking.
    Oh yeah, there's a lot of cards in a single box, never mind the breaking of multiple boxes. That would take forever, good point.

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    how much do yall throw down on average? any good gets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew View Post
    how much do yall throw down on average? any good gets?
    Depends on what you are opening and how many boxes of it. I have seen some single boxes for as low as $5. I have seen some as high as $50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kneeneighbor View Post
    I am on Midwest Box Breaks and they break single boxes all the time.
    I should have worded that better. They do happen, just not often in the groups I am in.
    I’m in a few on FB. @Matthew, for random breaks they use random.org to randomize the teams to the people in the break.

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    you guys never told me your good scores

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew View Post
    you guys never told me your good scores
    Only been at it for about 2 months. Nothing major yet but I did get a TJ Hockenson Obsidian Orange Mosaic Material 49/50 and a Jahlani Tavai Orange Obsidian 2/50. Those were in the same pull. I also just got a redemption card for a Drew Lock Rookie Eruption Electric Etch Orange numbered to 50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew View Post
    you guys never told me your good scores
    From breaks I’ve hit 2 Mahomes rookie autos, 2 Watson rookie autos, Aaron Rodgers auto /5, a Luka Kaboom, an Ohtani rookie auto. Those are just off the top of my head.

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    Unfortunately I sold pretty much all of those way to early

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