FANTASY MMA FIGHTS

**Nash Diesel** · November 18th, 2016, 12:00 PM

FANTASY MMA FIGHTS

I'm sitting here listening to Joe Rogan and Brendan Schaub jokingly talk about McGregor v. Lesnar but it had me thinking about how that fight could actually happen just not in the UFC-at least not present day UFC. But imagine the situation being relaxed like what we have seen in Japan. Remember that Hulk tournament with like Jose Canseco? Imagine 170lbs. McGregor v. 290lbs. Brock Lesnar in Rizin lol.

So what are some crazy fantasy fights you have thought of or would like to see or would have liked to have seen at some point? It could even be fights that were supposed to go down that fell through. It could even be some weird shit like Vanilla Ice v. MC Hammer. Doesn't even have to be present day, especially that fight lol. I don't know, it's Friday, it's super slow, and I thought this would be a fun thread to kill time.

I'll kick it off with something more realistic and I'm going to roll with:

Frank Shamrock

v.

Chuck Liddell

Imagine Frank never retires, he sticks around, still at the top of his game and fights Chuck Liddell in 2004 for the UFC Lightheavyweight Championship. You have arguably one of the best of the golden era v. one of the kingpins of the silver age of the UFC. The power of Chuck and the submission and heart of Frank Shamrock would have made for a very awesome fight IMO. Does Chuck knock this dude out in violent fashion or does Frank put the Iceman to sleep or snap an ankle?

**Fro** · November 19th, 2016, 12:58 PM

I'm not an MMA or boxing guy but isn't McGregor vs Mayweather the new thing people are fantasizing about? And teasing that it could really happen. Seems to me the fighter who would win this hypothetical bout would depend on which format they went with - Mayweather would win a boxing fight and McGregor would win an MMA fight. Right?

**Mik** · November 19th, 2016, 1:05 PM

Undoubtedly. Although there is perhaps a slight chance of each winning in the other discipline. McGregor is larger and more powerful than Mayweather as well as being significantly younger. If he caught him clean in boxing it could well end the night. Whereas Mayweather has a supreme defence, fast hands and great foot and hand movement, with smaller gloves he could easily catch McGregor clean and take him out. The overwhelmingly likely result would be that Conor would either take down and easily pound out Mayweather or work stop him badly with kicks, or that Mayweather would easily outwork and make McGregor look like a rookie over a 12 round decision in a boxing match. Thats assuming that McGregor could go 12 rounds with a supreme boxer like Mayweather, boxing undoubtedly takes huge stamina.

**Honey_Badger** · November 19th, 2016, 3:09 PM

GSP v McGregor

**Mark Hammer** · November 19th, 2016, 3:55 PM

The Conor/Mayweather talk is waaaay less offensive to everyone's intelligence than the ridiculous Rousey/Mayweather talk from just a couple years ago.

**Nash Diesel** · November 22nd, 2016, 3:34 PM

Here's another one I was thinking of since we're talking about McGregor:

V.

Peak BJ Penn v. Modern Day McGregor

Who would win this fookin fight?

**Nash Diesel** · November 22nd, 2016, 3:39 PM

Speaking of Rousey, this was actually a fight I would have loved to have seen but Megumi was on her way out as Ronda was on her way to the top.

v.

For those that don't know about Megumi Fujii, she was basically the Japanese Ronda Rousey. She had this crazy undefeated streak, like 20+ fights before losing. Pretty much all of her wins were by submission and she only lost 3 times in a 10 year career, all 3 by deicision. Most people in the West probably only saw her fight in Bellator back in 2010ish. I remember only seeing 2 of her fights there, 1 against Carla Esparza and the other against Zoilla Gurgel, which she IMO should have won but lost via Split Decision.

**kangus** · November 22nd, 2016, 4:02 PM

Oooh BJ vs McGregor is a good one. I think the way Conor fights and controls distance he would be able to keep BJ at range and I think eventually that left hand would find a home. Although he never had a blast double like say Tyron Woodley, BJ always used his striking to set up his BJJ. I just don't think that would be very successful against Conor.

**Nash Diesel** · November 22nd, 2016, 4:03 PM

I would definitely want them to fight at 155. I would probably put money on BJ because at his peak which I believe was when he was 155 champ, he was so fucking durable and I think he would get the submission win. But I would not be surprised if the fight was a war and McGregor took the decision.

**Nash Diesel** · November 22nd, 2016, 4:10 PM

Here's one last one and I'm going with the quasi-fantasy fight:

v.

JCVD v. Don "The Dragon" Wilson

Now, Don Wilson actually challenged Van Damme to a fight. I remember watching this box set of King of the Cage and Wilson was on commentary talking shit about JCVD and how he still wanted to fight him. I just googled this story and found that as recent as 2013 Wilson was still wanting to fight him, this time for charity. Not sure when the initial challenge was made to Van Damme but it never went down. I'm sure they would go under kickboxing rules but an MMA fight between these 2 mugs would have been sick. Especially back in the 90's where it would have been some shit straight out of Bloodsport lol.

**OD50** · November 24th, 2016, 6:20 AM

vs.

Obviously Tyson pre jail and CC from the early 2000's. MMA (Pride) rules.

**OD50** · November 24th, 2016, 6:32 AM

Tyson of the 80's was a beast and the prospect of him punching you with 4 oz gloves is pretty terrifying, how would he deal with the height/weight/reach and much more diverse skill set of CC though? Iron Mike would always have that chance of catching CC but I feel Mirko would stay out of reach brutalizing Mike's legs with low kicks, possibly setting up the LHK KO, or even a takedown followed by the GnP or submission finish. Tyson would have nothing for Crocop on the ground. Randleman and Gonzaga caught CC mostly due to the threat of the takedown, likewise CC had to be very vary of Fedor's clinch, trips and takedowns when they fought, making his stand-up less effective. When he fought guys posing no real takedown threat like Igor, Aleks and Wand in their second fight the results were pretty brutal.

Note. I'm not talking prime Mike Tyson having cross trained in MMA here, just pure boxer Iron Mike straight out of 1988.

**Mark Hammer** · November 24th, 2016, 11:31 PM

Wouldn't really be fair to pit a pure boxer vs a kickboxer with MMA rules imo.

**Percussion** · November 25th, 2016, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by Mark Hammer

Wouldn't really be fair to pit a pure boxer vs a kickboxer with MMA rules imo.

In general sure, Tyson's explosiveness and absurd power in 4 oz gloves helps even the playing field to some degree though.

For fantasy shiggle sake anyway.

**OD50** · November 25th, 2016, 6:22 AM

Originally Posted by Mark Hammer

Wouldn't really be fair to pit a pure boxer vs a kickboxer with MMA rules imo.

Hey man it's fantasy warfare we're talking here. Wouldn't be fair putting 115 lbs Megumi Fujii against 225 lbs Ronda Rousey either. It would be like King Kong Bundy squashing the midget at WMIII.

Pride and K-1 used to love to throw in pure wrestlers and boxers to do MMA or kickboxing back in the day though. Off the top of my head I remember Ray Mercer losing to Musashi and Remy Bonjasky, Shannon Briggs had one K-1 fight where he knocked out Tom Ericson, who was a wrestler/MMA fighter, so he was pretty much DOA in kickboxing against a high level boxer. I remember KID Yamamoto and Iron Head Fujita destroying some hapless Olympic wrestlers on the Shockwave/Dynamite shows as well.

**OD50** · November 25th, 2016, 6:38 AM

Checked wiki for the specs. KID Yamamoto defeated István Majoros (Hungary) at K-1 Dynamite 2006, an Olympic gold medalist at the 2004 Olympic games. Fujita defeated Eldar Kurtanidze (Georgia), an Olympic bronze medalist in the 1996 and 2000 Olympics at Pride Shockwave 2006. Both wrestlers were TKO'd due to strikes in round 1. Neither ever had an MMA fight again.

**Mark Hammer** · November 25th, 2016, 11:20 AM

Were these MMA bouts? Because if so, well we see strikers beat wrestlers all the time to this day.

But if these were under kickboxing rules, why on earth would either of those wrestlers agree to the fights?

**Mark Hammer** · November 25th, 2016, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by percussion13

In general sure, Tyson's explosiveness and absurd power in 4 oz gloves helps even the playing field to some degree though.

For fantasy shiggle sake anyway.

I could see Tyson's legs easily getting kicked out from underneath him and then eventually KO'd with a head kick. I prefer Tyson to Cro Cop so I wouldn't personally want to see that.

**Percussion** · November 25th, 2016, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by Mark Hammer

I could see Tyson's legs easily getting kicked out from underneath him and then eventually KO'd with a head kick. I prefer Tyson to Cro Cop so I wouldn't personally want to see that.

I could see that happening. I could also see Tyson bob'ing and weaving his way into a hook/straight combo that gets crocop all kinds of off balance and it's on.

**OD50** · November 25th, 2016, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by Mark Hammer

Were these MMA bouts? Because if so, well we see strikers beat wrestlers all the time to this day.

But if these were under kickboxing rules, why on earth would either of those wrestlers agree to the fights?

They were fought with MMA rules, Pride/K-1 HERO's. Fujita and KID were both strong wrestlers themselves, but with extensive cross-training/MMA experience, the other guys were great(er) wrestlers, but zero cross-training or MMA experience.

Tom Ericsson took the fight against Shannon Briggs under K-1 rules, which wasn't the best idea, same with Don Frye fighting Jerome LeBanner under K-1 rules at Shockwave 2002, that was pretty ugly. Frye took that fight because he's a mans man. He had previously fought K-1 fighters under MMA rules (Cyril Abidi and maybe someone else) so he felt he owed K-1 to fight one of their fighters under kickboxing rules. Even though he probably knew he'd get fucked up.

**Nash Diesel** · November 28th, 2016, 2:12 PM

I just saw a clip on Instagram of Shannon Briggs talking about that Tom Ericsson fight and how he (Briggs) was about to drop from those leg kicks and then managed to drop Tom for the win. Shit I remember Rampage went and fought some dude in K-1 didn't he and he won!

**Mark Hammer** · November 28th, 2016, 2:24 PM

He's actually 2-0 vs Cyril Abidi. For someone with a wrestling base his boxing was impeccable.

**Eddie Brock** · November 28th, 2016, 3:20 PM

vs.

**Nash Diesel** · November 28th, 2016, 3:23 PM

Oh fuck. Lesnar would be done inside the first minute. Now, the Mark Hunt fight proved a lot of us wrong in the sense we thought as soon as Mark touched him Lesnar would be out lol. But Rumble has wrestling, and he's stopped the wrestling of guys like Cormier and Phil Davis. I honestly could see this fight looking almost exactly like the Cain-Lesnar fight only shorter. Much shorter. Scary shorter lol.

**Mark Hammer** · November 28th, 2016, 3:25 PM

Vitor outgrappled Rumble. Brock could certainly do it but if Rumble touches him first I imagine it would be over.

**Nash Diesel** · November 28th, 2016, 3:25 PM

v.

*I hate how some pictures I like are super big and the others are super small in comparison*

Taz v. Ken Shamrock. 1996. Who wins the shoot fight? Wish they had wrestled each other back in 1997-1998.

**Mark Hammer** · November 28th, 2016, 3:27 PM

Taz has no combat sports experience if im not mistaken. 96 Shamrock would have murdered his short ass.

**Nash Diesel** · November 28th, 2016, 4:08 PM

Originally Posted by Mark Hammer

Vitor outgrappled Rumble. Brock could certainly do it but if Rumble touches him first I imagine it would be over.

Imagine Vitor trying to fuck with Rumble now.....Rumble back then is almost a totally different dude.

Originally Posted by Mark Hammer

Taz has no combat sports experience if im not mistaken. 96 Shamrock would have murdered his short ass.

He never fought MMA but he is an accomplished judokan. Probably would have been really boring especially when you think of Royce v. Shamorck 2. 30+ minutes of Royce on his back and Shamrock not being able to do shit. Taz was also an accomplished amateur wrestler in New York so he might have caused some serious problems for Shamrock but I would put money on Shamrock.

**OD50** · November 28th, 2016, 5:31 PM

Originally Posted by Mark Hammer

He's actually 2-0 vs Cyril Abidi. For someone with a wrestling base his boxing was impeccable.

Yeah, I remember it very clearly since I was a K-1 fan way before I was a Pride fan. Most figured his quick KO of Abidi was a fluke so they rematched a little later and Rampage won again, but via decision if I remember correctly.

**Nash Diesel** · November 28th, 2016, 5:36 PM

Shit I didn't even know they had a fight where Rampage knocked him out. I only knew of the decision fight that Rampage won because he was still primarily just a guy powerbombing and slamming dudes, his boxing was alright but nothing to brag about. Apparently it was better than I thought lol.

**OD50** · November 28th, 2016, 7:05 PM

Cyril Abidi was never an elite K-1 fighter though, he had a brief hot streak in 2000 I believe where he he defeated Peter Aerts and Ray Sefo (he lost to both in rematches), after that he was pretty much a jobber to the stars for the next 7 years. It was a great job by Rampage of course beating a pure kickboxer in K-1 but had they put him against someone like Jerome LeBanner, Ernesto Hoost or Crocop it would have been quite different.

Shit all this talk is making me nostalgic for the old wild, wild west days of MMA. Pride vs. K-1 and stuff.

**Spedizzo** · November 29th, 2016, 9:50 AM

Ronda Rousey vs. Jon Jones

**Nash Diesel** · November 29th, 2016, 11:20 AM

v.

What's so strange is right as Cain won the belt from Lesnar, Fedor started his decline losing 3 fights in 3 different ways (Submission, TKO, and KO). It was almost like Fedor passed the torch to Cain who minus a quick KO against JDS was turning into the modern day Fedor. I feel that even though Werdum's name belongs in the running, these are the top 2 HW's of all time. If things worked out for the best, Fedor comes over to the UFC after Affliction, beats Lesnar for the belt, then faces Cain V in 2010.

**Mark Hammer** · November 29th, 2016, 1:24 PM

Brock vs Fedor actually was a dream match.

**Nash Diesel** · November 29th, 2016, 4:48 PM

Originally Posted by Mark Hammer

Brock vs Fedor actually was a dream match.

Yep.

I remember Dana White said that after the new Dallas stadium opened his plan was to have Fedor v. Lesnar and put it on Spike for free because the ratings would have been insane.

**Spedizzo** · November 29th, 2016, 5:36 PM

Lesnar would have taken Fedor down and made him his bitch in side control all day long or whatever all night long.

Fedor couldn't stop the elite takedowns of Giant Silva and everyone always ragdolls Fedor around the ring.

**Percussion** · November 29th, 2016, 5:44 PM

Or Fedor would've touched Brock's chin and had him do the funky chicken.

**Nash Diesel** · November 29th, 2016, 5:45 PM

Originally Posted by Spedizzo

Lesnar would have taken Fedor down and made him his bitch in side control all day long or whatever all night long.

Fedor couldn't stop the elite takedowns of Giant Silva and everyone always ragdolls Fedor around the ring.

Maybe.

Lesnar was big but he was sloppy and Fedor wasn't Frank Mir. At that time, I would have went with Fedor no doubt. He might have been taken down but he would have found his way back up and knocked out Lesnar or a TKO at the least. But that doesn't mean a part of me wouldn't be shocked if Fedor was taken down and couldn't get back up because I don't think Fedor ever fought a gorilla.

**Nash Diesel** · December 6th, 2016, 3:50 PM

v.

Gina v. Ronda. This was a fight that actually had some realistic chances of coming together as the UFC were willing to give Gina a title shot against Ronda after being inactive for almost 5 years at a weight class she never fought at. One has to think though that if she beat Cyborg for the Strikeforce 145 belt and stuck around, her and Rousey would have met at 145 under the Strikeforce banner. We all know R3 said no thanks to fighting Cyborg in Strikeforce which is why she dropped down to 135 to fight Tate instead. But who would win this fight? Was Gina overrated due to her looks or would she have been able to dispose of Ronda when Ronda was still pretty green? Or do we put peak form Ronda against peak form Gina? Hard to say a non-peak form Gina as she hasn't fought since meeting the same fate that 90% of fighters meet when they face Cyborg...death.

**Nash Diesel** · December 6th, 2016, 6:04 PM

Butterbean

v.

Kimbo Slice

Part of me thinks they probably were going to fight at some point in their lives, whether it was in the parking lot of a Wal Mart or for Strikeforce, maybe Pride, idk. I would have loved to have seen these 2 fight in MMA.

**OD50** · December 7th, 2016, 1:15 PM

Easy KO for 'bean. MMA, boxing, K-1, streetfight, whatever.

**Nash Diesel** · December 7th, 2016, 1:36 PM

I remember the first Pride ppv I ever ordered and that was when they first came to the US. It was supposed to be Butterbean v. Mark Hunt but Hunt supposedly had Visa issues so they had Sean O'Hare of WCW/WWE fame come in and was just slaughtered in seconds. I literally had no idea until just reading up on this fight that what had really happened was they deemed Hunt's wins over Silva and Mirko gave him a serious advantage on the ground making it an "unfair" fight according to NSAC.....A win over Mirko=ground specialist?

I really liked that event though. Definitely had a different vibe that previous Pride events for obvious reasons but still had a quite a few major players like Fedor, Shogun, Mark Coleman, Josh Barnett. 22 second flying knee from Robbie Lawler still seems like yesterday not 10 years ago.

**Nash Diesel** · December 7th, 2016, 2:39 PM

Matt Hughes

v.

Kazushi Sakuraba

How does this fight go with both men in their prime around the same time? That 2002-2005 stretch, I would have loved to have seen them go at it in the early 00's. I know Dana White said he would have loved to have Sakuraba in the UFC. I know Sakuraba had actually won a UFC tournament pre-Zuffa but I know what he meant. The fact the guy still does MMA and pro wrestling is unbelievable. Hughes, obviously a killer during this period, would even go on to make it look EASY finishing Royce Gracie, a man who went like 60 minutes with Sak back at an early Pride show. Fight sucked so bad I'm glad I've only seen it broken up into like a 5 minute fight lol.

**Nash Diesel** · December 7th, 2016, 2:42 PM

Brock Lesnar

v.

Punk Minowa

Why WOULDN'T this fight happen is the real question? Punk has fought a list of freak shows in MMA. He fought Butterbean, hit the dude with a fucking drop kick for fuck's sake. He fought that 7'2" guy, he won the Hulk tournament defeating Bob Sapp along the way. Could he have taken Lesnar? Probably not but still it would've been fun to watch.

**Mark Hammer** · December 7th, 2016, 3:00 PM

Didn't he also fight (and lose to) the big Kamala-looking guy from UFC 1 that got soccer kicked in the face? Pretty sure Brock would swat him like a fly. Sapp should have been able to but he honestly wasn't very good in Pride. Either way big balls on that guy.

**Nash Diesel** · December 7th, 2016, 3:22 PM

Originally Posted by Mark Hammer

Didn't he also fight (and lose to) the big Kamala-looking guy from UFC 1 that got soccer kicked in the face? Pretty sure Brock would swat him like a fly. Sapp should have been able to but he honestly wasn't very good in Pride. Either way big balls on that guy.

Naw that dude only fought that 1 time in MMA. A little unknown fact, the guy is currently on the show Hawaii 5-0.

You're thinking of his brother from another mother, Zuluzhino, who Punk actually beat prior but then yeah Punk was almost killed in the rematch. Seriously you look at Punk's record and it's a who's who of killers and/or gigantic men. That dude was so bad motherfuckin Butterbean submitted him. What. The. Fuck!!?!?!?

**Nash Diesel** · December 8th, 2016, 4:20 PM

King Mo

v.

Shogun Rua

**Nash Diesel** · December 8th, 2016, 5:27 PM

Chuck Liddell

v.

Wanderlai Silva

YES, they have fought. YES, it was a great fight. But imagine had they met in the finals of the Pride MW GP. Imagine if they had fought at UFC in November 2006 as originally expected. Fuck man I remember that face off when Wandy was still in Pride, it was intense. So let's say they fought in Pride...Who wins? Who would win in the UFC in 2006?

**OD50** · December 9th, 2016, 8:16 AM

In a perfect world Chuck/Wand would have happened in 2003. 2007 was way too late for me to even care, Chuck was coming off that KO to Rampage and a loss to Keith Jardine of all people, Wand was nearly killed by CC and Hendo just before as well.

MMAmath is never a good thing but under Pride rules prime Wand destroyed Rampage twice, who in turn put a beating on Chuck both in Pride and the UFC. With "prime Wand" I mean both younger and roided out of his mind. His style was always much better suited for the ring and Pride rules over the cage and the unified rules.

In 2003 in a ring under Pride rules I have Wanderlei beating Chuck.

**OD50** · December 9th, 2016, 8:19 AM

Originally Posted by Nash Diesel

Matt Hughes

v.

Kazushi Sakuraba

Possibly a decision win for Hughes in the UFC and a submission win for Saku in Pride. Cage and elbows would have worked wonders for Hughes.

**Nash Diesel** · December 9th, 2016, 2:20 PM

Kurt Angle

v.

Mark Coleman

Let's take this fight to the late 90's. Kurt Angle opts to go to the UFC instead of the WWF. Does Kurt Angle transition to MMA, especially during this time where it's still more one dimensional guys than what we see today? I think he would have done extremely well and would have evolved beyond just being a wrestler. I think he would have had good submissions, ground and pound, maybe not the greatest hands but enough to get by. How does he do against Mark Coleman? Does Coleman just destroy this guy or is Angle skilled enough learning other aspects of the game and win/survive?

**Percussion** · December 9th, 2016, 2:32 PM

Think it's impossible to say how anyone would do under live fire until you've seen something of it. Doesn't hurt Angle's case though that he's kind of a mental patient, but it's still just a question mark more than not.

**Nash Diesel** · December 9th, 2016, 2:37 PM

Originally Posted by percussion13

Think it's impossible to say how anyone would do under live fire until you've seen something of it. Doesn't hurt Angle's case though that he's kind of a mental patient, but it's still just a question mark more than not.

That's why I made sure the first word was Fantasy and that it was in all caps. I mean you have to take a step out of reality for a few of these fights and just kind of fantasize about best case scenario. Or even just answering a question of "how would someone have done?" Yeah, it's hard to really give a scientific answer as to how someone who's never been in an MMA fight would do in MMA, but you can guess a guy with his drive more than likely would have transitioned fairly well especially back in the late 90's when the sport was just starting to evolve from having 1 style to maybe 2 styles you're good at.

**Percussion** · December 9th, 2016, 2:44 PM

Originally Posted by Nash Diesel

That's why I made sure the first word was Fantasy and that it was in all caps. I mean you have to take a step out of reality for a few of these fights and just kind of fantasize about best case scenario. Or even just answering a question of "how would someone have done?" Yeah, it's hard to really give a scientific answer as to how someone who's never been in an MMA fight would do in MMA, but you can guess a guy with his drive more than likely would have transitioned fairly well especially back in the late 90's when the sport was just starting to evolve from having 1 style to maybe 2 styles you're good at.

I'm glad for you that you feel confidant at all guessing around about how someone who's never done it would do.

And thank you for explaining to me the thread title. Glad also that I earned that somehow.

**Nash Diesel** · December 9th, 2016, 3:15 PM

Originally Posted by percussion13

I'm glad for you that you feel confidant at all guessing around about how someone who's never done it would do.

And thank you for explaining to me the thread title. Glad also that I earned that somehow.

I can imagine you as a kid sitting around with your friends and they're like "I wonder what would happen if He-Man fought Superman" and you're there with your Debbie Downer gimmick going "They're not even real who cares it's pointless to think about things like that...." lol. Seriously.....I'm glad that you're glad that I'm glad to point out how depressing you can make a thread topic.

**Percussion** · December 9th, 2016, 3:19 PM

Originally Posted by Nash Diesel

I can imagine you as a kid sitting around with your friends and they're like "I wonder what would happen if He-Man fought Superman" and you're there with your Debbie Downer gimmick going "They're not even real who cares it's pointless to think about things like that...." lol. Seriously.....I'm glad that you're glad that I'm glad to point out how depressing you can make a thread topic.

You aware not everyone in this subforum is Hammer, right?

**Nash Diesel** · December 9th, 2016, 3:28 PM

Originally Posted by percussion13

You aware not everyone in this subforum is Hammer, right?

I do. I also know that it's weird to come in to a thread where we are literally fantasy booking and there's a lot what if this happened at this time or if this person was doing this....You have such match ups as Mike Tyson v. Cro Cop. Brock Lesnar v. Punk Minuwa. Ken Shamrock v. Taz. And here you are, doing your thing which is "Well, it didn't happen so why talk about it?" That's the whole point of the thread lol. It's not really meant to be taken seriously, just read the opening post............

**Percussion** · December 9th, 2016, 3:36 PM

All I said was Angle is too hard to nail, as opposed to all the hypotheticals involving actual fighters, and especially against a proven all-time fighter.

Didn't know you take such personal insult over it.

**Nash Diesel** · December 9th, 2016, 3:40 PM

Honestly I didn't have an issue, still don't really, until your 2nd post where you were being a complete wise ass which was to be expected but it is what it is man. Originally I was just pointing out, it's fantasy, you don't have to think too much about it.

**Nash Diesel** · February 7th, 2017, 3:05 PM

v.

Prime Hughes v. Modern Day Lawler....Who takes it and why?

**Nash Diesel** · February 7th, 2017, 3:06 PM

v.

Jon Jones v. Chuck Liddell

Imagine this fight.

**Nash Diesel** · February 7th, 2017, 3:09 PM

v.

**Spedizzo** · February 7th, 2017, 5:50 PM

I always wanted to see Anderson Silva vs. Rampage back in like 2010

**Nash Diesel** · February 7th, 2017, 6:03 PM

That would have been a sick fight! Could have been on deck. Look at the timeline. Forrest beats Rampage, then loses the belt to Rashad, then fights Anderson. Imagine Rampage beating Forrest, beating Rashad, super fight with Anderson. 185 was never ultra deep, they kind of had to dig for contenders which is why you were getting #9 ranked Chris Weidman getting a title shot. But I feel they could have really built toward a super fight between Anderson and the LHW champ but I think those plans went out the window when Machida and Shogun won the belt. Then you had Jon Jones and I don't give a fuck how great you are, you know Anderson saw the way Jones was killing people from Silva's generation and he was like nope, I'm going to take a dive and lose this belt asap. lol.

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