Wow. Walkover.
Wow. Walkover.
well that was not worth the build up
Hahahaha
Punk was destroyed.
As if there would be another result.
That fast huh?
Well, that went as it probably should have been expected to go.
Would of liked to see Punk throw hands a bit.
Oh well.
That's exactly what I was afraid of. Not only was he beaten, but he was outclassed by a guy who has only had a couple of professional fights, on the ground, which was supposed to be his "strength."
somewhere out there a out of touch 70 year old is laughing
I wanted to see it too, but if we thought this was ugly...Originally Posted by Jordo
Punk has no 'strength'. White belt in BJJ. Gall is a tough kid though, I think he'll make it pretty far.
Does he ever fight again? The thought of it seems ridiculous, but Punk is a stubborn dude and UFC has made a big investment in him.
Punk's face reminds me of someone.
CM Punk, absolutely insane.
His ear is fucked and that welt above it looks sick.
Oh ya, the outcome would of been the same but I still wanted to see it.
Rogan was cracking me up on commentary though.
I'd love to know what he was thinking bee-lining towards Gall like that. No feeling out process or anything.
I'd say we get at least one more fight out him.
Moment probably just got to him. Jacked up on adrenaline in his first real fight. Yeah, he's wrestled a million matches in front of big crowds, but that's different.
I kinda liked the world seeing the stark difference in just how talented and vicious these pros are. It's easy to lose sight of when watching them battle each other week in and week out. Now to have seen a guy who wasn't exactly a couch potato himself and who put in months and months of training from world class instruction ... to see that that's what happens when he faces a real pro, it was the ultimate jobber match for the sport itself.
Kudos to Punk for having the stones to let us into that world from such a perspective.
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It's like any other professional sport, even the worst guys doing it are the top 1%. The bottom players in the NFL were the best players on their college teams, I assume UFC is the same way. There are millions of martial artists out there, only a few get paid big money to train and fight.
It's amazing that Punk didn't realise that himself.
That's true. Difference though in the fact that MMA has had an all of the sudden rise in comparison and still has echos of the tank abbots and toughmans of the sports history that for the longest time have convinced a vast number of brodudes they could pull it off versus no one thinking that way about other major pro sports orgs. Guys join MMA gyms to this day thinking their big break is maybe six months of training away. Bullshit, and that fight was the spotlight.
Browne soundly takes round one there.
He took round 1 up his butt.
lol what a round
That fight was awful.
If he does fight again, I think he'll have some idea of what to expect and (hopefully) a better result.
CM Punk backstage after the fight...
So did he really fight as "CM Punk"? And how bad was the loss really?
Also if anything good came out of this is was a boost to the MMA forum.
You're so much better than a bad Friends reference wardy mate. That was 20 years ago.CM Punk backstage after the fight...
The fight felt like 2 minutes. Punk got in immediate trouble and then spent the rest of the fight avoiding getting choked out until he finally got choked out. It was a beat down.
Yes, and completely one sided. To his credit Punk looked relatively competent in the sense that it wasn't just full on deer in the headlights and embarrassed. That said, not so much as an inch of competition.
Did you guys notice the sequence when Mickey Gall had sitting back mount, Punk was like 'hey maybe I'll just try and stand up here, it seems simple enou....oh nope that's not going to work I see'.
I guess using your legs for leverage off the cage is illegal. Punk already being heelish.
What was the point of an 8 fight deal for him? Random.
Well the illegal part was Punk had his toes curled through the cage which is a no-no, just like it would be if you did so with your fingers.
dana probably told punk to make Mickey look really strong
Ahahahaha that's amazing. I have to see that. There's not enough bad improv in MMA anymore. People were winning with madness early on and all that went with real training.
Aye that Dana White has been pushing Mickey Gall for years now. It's a fucking disgrace.
hahahahah
Overreem has a great future in WWE. "He tapped. The ref didn't see it"
this card was very entertaining
Rogan insisting Reem face the music there was fucking great.
Enjoyable card.
Was really pulling for reem and punk but hey ho.
Rivera is a stud, easily the performance of the night.
TAPS AFF!
Ahaha poor guy, as soon as he mentions the mysterious tap he's just automatically booed out of the building.
Had to miss the main event lads.
Can someone fill me in on the controversy? Did Stipe tap? Was Reem out cold?
The fight was kind of uneventful but it was a huge and career defining win.
2 replays says no tap.Had to miss the main event lads.
Can someone fill me in on the controversy? Did Stipe tap? Was Reem out cold?
It was a really interesting fight Mark! Basically Reem rocked Stipe and immediately went for a front guillotine, Stipe fought out of it and eventually KO'd Reem cold. After the fight Reem said he felt Stipe tap in the guillotine so Rogan replayed it on the big screen like three times and clearly there was no tap. I don't think Overeem was being a dickhead, there's just a lot going on at once and maybe he did feel a tap but clearly there wasn't.
I heard the tap.
Rogan buried Punk 6 feet under. I'd take Rogan in that fight honestly.
Yes and I dont blame him. Phil Brooks is a terrible name.
And yes, he got whooped. Charged forward at the opening bell, immediately taken down, beat up and choked out. It was ugly.
I loved his take on Overreem claiming there was a tap: "I can't fault him for having a distorted memory after that"
He completely dominated Faber which is very impressive and I'm sure you'd agree.
All the fights were pretty underwhelming tonight yet they were still fun to watch.
I hope they give punk another fight, maybe a fight night card.
The look on his face when he was coming out was just great and I have a huge respect for him.
TAPS AFF!
Way to go out on a limb there.
I think Phil Brooks sounds better than Call Me Punk, especially after getting battered.
It's not illegal to use the fence for leverage, it's a pretty common tactic. It is however illegal to grip the cage with your toes or fingers.
Yes absolutely. Rivera is now in line for a t.s.
i love stipe. i hope he beats cain.
i just don't understand why Punk charged in like that. Maybe it was nerves, maybe he just wanted to get it over with. I don't know. Maybe next time he'll actually...wait a bit?
overall card was ok. Couldn't care less about Faber these days and I used to be a huge fan. Punk fight was what it was, I still love that guy. Women's fight was alright. Skipped the Browne fight. Main event was good and the aftermath was brillz.
Miocic/Werdim rematch has to be soon, yeah?
first round of brown/werdum was hilarious.
He won't. I like Stipe too but Cain is the baddest man on the planet and both of his losses were flukes.
I guess adrenaline dump but yeah that was a god awful tactic.
And Cain deserves the next shot far more than Werdum.
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That was laughable really. CM Punk should be ashamed of himself.
Looks like he was hellbent on showing everyone that he wasn't afraid to cut loose a couple standing (likely before some attempt to clinch/takedown of his own) and went in with complete blinders on ... against a fuckin' pro.
This is one of the most bizarre PPVs I've watched.
Punk being mauled then crying. Probably having a moment with all his fans who are crying away right now. This fight should've happened in Dana's basement instead.
Werdum pulling out a flying kick in a showcase of a match that had a guy ask for a timeout because he hurt his finger.
And one of the oddest main events ever that's capped off with Overeem saying he felt Miocic tap.
It was entertaining.
this was a fun event, agree it was bizarre
-didn't care for women's opener
-happy Faber got his ass kicked cause I bet Rivera and my friends all thought I was dumb for doing so
-marked out for Mickey's entrance (cause he wasn't supposed to have that song) and had chill's for CM Punk's theme. Really bummed once the fight started
-Werdum went psycho on Browne and then coasted. Looks like Cain will probably get the title shot
-What a main event. Overeem seems to have had an adrenaline dump after the guillotine failed. Don't know why he said Miocic tapped. Happy Miocic won because I bet earlier winnings on Miocic plus I have a picture with Miocic so I feel like we have a bond, but at the same time Overeem is a legend and this might be his last chance at UFC gold so I feel for him
almost at UFC 205
great year of PPVs
The Faber/Rivera eye poke that caused the damage to Rivera's eye. It ain't pretty so viewer discretion is advised.
Fuck me.
Respect to him though for doing it.
Jesus.The Faber/Rivera eye poke that caused the damage to Rivera's eye. It ain't pretty so viewer discretion is advised.
Man that was ugly for punk. He does need to just step away from UFC and fight elsewhere until he is ready but with his age I am not sure he will ever make it back.
Strange to see him break down crying so bad too. He definitely thought he was better than what he was. I am looking forward to his adventure though or he could just tuck tail and ve back in time for a surprise rumble entrant and a mania payday.
Like to be a fly on the wall with Duke Roufus after that fight.
When did he break down crying?
Post fight presser.
A little, I thought he meant some other time too.
Wtf, Reem looked like absolute horse piss, worst performance of his career. Embarrassing.
The guy might've only had a couple of fights, but he's trained martial arts for a lot longer than punk. Including bjj which is 'on the ground' and where he is a much higher level belt than punk. There's a reason why gall was a heavy favourite.
No they haven't.
Im pretty sure it was a three fight deal and the idea was to stop their rivals bellator from getting him. Punk had made it clear that he wanted to fight MMA and he would've done big sales on free tv for bellator so UFC signed him up so bellator couldn't. He'll have made money for them.
I can see why a one hit KO from JDS that he avenged comfortably twice could be considered a fluke, although I think it says more about the nature of the heavy hitting hw division. But Werdum outstruck him, force Cain to go for the takedown and then tapped him very comfortably, it wasn't a quick affair and both got their opportunities to fight. Cannot be called a fluke, especially as Cain hasn't avenged it. I guess you're probably talking about the fact that Cain struggled with the altitude, but that was his own fault for not preparing for it. It shouldn't have come as any surprise to him. If he hadn't trained for bjj and got tapped out that wouldn't have been an excuse and it wouldn't have been a fluke. He had it in his power to do something about it.
I agree that he will be the next shot and it's the fight I would rather see, but deserves? Werdum beat Cain and then took a one punch knockout from stipe, he has something that Cain doesn't which is a win over the other. Werdum frustrates me though, he always looks like he's on the verge of falling over.
Nah, that's Werdum against Browne...who is a fucking dirty fighter and not the first time he's done this.The Faber/Rivera eye poke that caused the damage to Rivera's eye. It ain't pretty so viewer discretion is advised.
Meh, it was typical Reem. Incredible power, put the champ on his arse, had him in trouble, gassed and didn't defend himself very well. It's like pretty much all of his other losses.
God you're right. Well that's what happens I'm posting stuff on my phone like an idiot without looking it over.
So, who else but me thinks Edmund is a total fraud? Everything I've seen of him suggests he's complete shit, both as trainer and coach (remember his corner work when Ronda was getting cut to pieces by HH?). Browne has just gotten worse since hooking up with him hasn't he? His only W under Edmund is that Fingerpoke of Doom fiasco against Mitrione I believe.
It's like a tae-bo instructor who caught the best racket ever in swindling Rousey. And here we are.
So ya, complete agreement.
As bad as Phil Brooks looked, I think his name value as CM Punk buys him one more fight with the UFC. If he gets embarrassed again next time out, all bets are off...
Edmund is clueless. It's fascinating how shit and weird he is though, his reactions in times of hardship for his fighters are incredible, he can't cope. Strange fight.
Punk got beaten by a better fighter. They should match him with the dude that fought Gall in his debut next, he's pretty much the definition of a walkover so if he struggles at that level there's no point going any further. He might not be outright terrible as Gall actually appears to be quite good.
Classic Reem there. Couldn't have been scripted better. Heavyweight now has Miocic, Werdum, Velasquez, Barnett and dos Santos all coming off wins so I'm hoping for Miocic/Velasquez, Werdum/Rothwell and JDS/Barnett, with Browne/Ngannou, Arlovski/Magomedov and Lewis/Reem to separate the contenders from the gatekeepers.
Cain took round 1 from Werdum and would have taken round 2 and the win had he not gassed. Which isnt taking anything away from Fabricio, he won fair and square. But I dont subscribe to the notion that Werdum destroyed him and he certainly didn't look like the superior fighter following. I would absolutely call Cain in a rematch.
Werdum is a tricky match-up for Cain due to his ground game (off his back especially) sort of nullifying one of Cain's strongest aspects. He's one dude you don't want to ground-and-pound recklessly, just ask Fedor.
I do think that a Cain that doesn't gas out miserably could use his speed advantage in the stand-up mixed with takedowns to beat Werdum. With takedowns I mean that he should put Werdum down when possible and frustrate him, not follow him down. Kind of like how Reem did do Werdum in Strikeforce.
I think that its a little too convenient to say that Cain gassed vs Werdum and leave Werdum completely passive in that. Werdum was keeping Cain at bay with longer range strikes, was utilising a strong clinch game to wear him down and was popping Cain regularly in the face with accurate and diverse striking. Cain is not used to all that. Lets not just immediately assume that it was the altitude and nothing else. Chad Mendes didnt just gas because he was short notice, it was also because Conor was hitting him with teep kicks. McGregor didnt just gas because of the increased weight in the first fight with Nate, it was also because he was winging big punches and Nate was rolling with them and because Nate was hitting him clean and keeping him on the end of his reach. It takes two to tango.
I must say that I saw enough during this PPV (as well as a few "best of" compilation lists I watched prior) to check out a future UFC PPV. It's absolutely insane how brutal it is though. Some of the knock-outs are beyond belief. But I definitely respect the mixed speciality aspect to it and the proverbial game of chess that develops as a result.
Get hooked McBain!
You know, good for Punk. He was completely destroyed-his words-and there's no shame in going out there and losing. I've seen guys get beat a lot worse, a lot faster, with a lot more training and experience. DW says he doesn't want Punk to fight again, at least in the UFC. Too bad there's no WEC for him to go to and stay under that same umbrella like Invicta for example.
Stipe...what a way to pull it back together and get that W. HW is looking very exciting right now. I was a little shocked Werdum couldn't put Browne away, especially after that sick ass Chuck Norris jump kick right off the bat!!
The UFC has sort of a working relationship with RFA I believe, it's run by Anderson Silva's manager, the name escaped me right now, Ed Soares? They could give Punk a fight there against someone more on his skill level. if he wins and looks impressive they could give him another shot in the UFC I guess. If he gets starched in RFA his drawing power is probably gone.
Get the 7 day free pass for UFC Fight Pass if you ever have time to watch stuff on TV or whatever. Start off watching the matches you are familiar with - Conor McGregor, Jon Jones, etc. Then watch guys like Anderson Silva, Rampage, etc. You won't regret it.
There is nothing like watching a hyped up MMA fight live (at a bar or at home) between two of the best fighters in the world when you are invested in the sport.
The next PPV isn't built up that great for the casuals, although Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping is kind of a match for the casuals and Mousasi vs. Belfort is a great fight too. UFC 205 will be insanely huge though and you won't want to miss that.
Apparently Punk pocketed $500k. Gall, $30k, which includes the win bonus
No surprise. No one ordered the ppv to see Mickey Gall.
No shit. McBain ordered it and I doubt he did it because he wanted to see Stipe. One of my best friends who doesn't follow MMA, barely watches wrestling, he ordered it solely to see CM Punk. The upside for a lot of these fighters...go read McBain's post he made about how he saw enough to make him want to watch more in the future. THAT is the upside. Someone was asking who Stipe was, now they know. If you didn't know who Werdum was, now you do.
It's the EXACT thing that happened to me 15 years ago when Ken Shamrock returned to the UFC to fight Tito Ortiz. I was exposed to not only Tito Ortiz, but Chuck Liddell, Babalu, Matt Hughes, Andrei Arlovski, and I was hooked back in after not watching since Ken Shamrock was there prior in the mid 90's.
I'm enjoying reading a lot of the anti-Punk pay tweets from the likes of Tom Lawlor, Cat Zigano, Cyborg, etc. I've always said, I get where the fighters are coming from but again, the bigger picture.....Will Brooks is really one of the few people who have said, quit worrying about how much he got paid and go out there and make your own.
I used a feed.
lol. Hey, you still tuned in and you might tune in again so it's a win regardless buddy.I used a feed.
Can't help but lose a little respect for those fighters. No shit Punk was paid like a mf. Are they void of common sense?
Zingano's not one to talk, at all. She got on the UFC 200 card after that utterly laughable performance vs Rousey. And stunk the joint up. Should she have made more than Punk did for getting the UFC all the exposure that he did? Stupid fighters.
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