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    Final Fantasy 7 Remake

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kznek1uNVsg

    This needs its own thread.

    What are we expecting from this? They better not fuck with the story or the music.

    No release date yet.

    Last edited by Bad Collin; June 16th, 2015 at 6:33 AM.

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    Seems like they are sticking with the music from the original based on the trailer. I even felt like I recognised the sound of the train, which is a nice touch.

    Please don't fuck it up.

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    That trailer is magnificent.

    I'd like to see them use the orchestral score that's been released on Distant Worlds. Anything but the God awful PC remastered music.

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    I hope they do fuck with the storyline. I want what the og Japanese version was suppose to be.

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    I'm tempted to moan about how we're getting yet another remake and yet another company seems out of ideas and is trading on the past when it bothered to actually make decent products, but to be honest all I've wanted from Square is another Final Fantasy like VII for about 15 years. If that means they just have to remake FFVII, fine. Maybe the team that works on it will realise how to make a good Final Fantasy game.

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    FF has pretty much sucked since 9 (except X-2). I welcome the remake and hope they do more.

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    X-2 was a great game. A shame it gets so much hate for the somewhat goofy Charlie's Angels vibe but it was fun and had a much more enjoyable combat system than X itself.

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    Um, 10 was great and X-2 sucked guys

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    Bzzz. Incorrect.

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    10 was great and i never got into X-2 enough to play past the first couple hours. im fairly excited about this but know it must end up sucking. no way they can recreate the charm of ff7's world with their current art direction. i'll still consider getting a ps4 to play it, i love ff7 too much not be pretty interested.

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    X was very good and X-2 a great reinvention of existing systems.

    But XII, XII is the masterpiece. Me and Stan will fight anyone who disagrees.

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    The battle system for 12 is wack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DVDA View Post
    The battle system for 12 is wack.
    I'm going to presume wack means amazeballs.

    I understand why a lot of people feel that way though, it was such a departure from what came before. As it is, I got the chance to like how mmorpgs handle and that is essentially how the battle system in XII is built.

    Only thing I didn't like, running to regain MP. Meant you never really got the chance to sit back and appreciate how ridiculously incredible it looked.

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    never played ff7 this game better be good or i will never trust any of you shitheads

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    It's past time Final Fantasy 7 got it's long awaited remake. (And I can't seem to find 6) I like that Square actually has/had the common sense to remake or at least re-release it's classics every so often with most systems lacking backwards compatibility and I don't want my living room looking like the Angry Video Game Nerd lives there. At this point I don't see why square doesn't just release something similar to what Rare is doing. "Hey, here's absolutely everything you give a shit about from forever!" I'd settle for that.

    The game looks great, sounds great. I'm hopeful that any changes they do to the gameplay are either minor or clear improvements. As somewhat of a purist I hated the FF1 remake that used MP instead of memorization like the original. That just made things so much fucking easier. To the point that it felt like I was just enjoying the story instead of the challenge. Which would have been fine my first time but I was there for a stroll down memory lane grinding and all.

    I would love an after game cheesey as all hell way to raise Aerith. I loved those absurdly difficult dungeons in FF1 and FF2 remakes where you descended into hell fighting mostly badguys from future and alternate titles and just enjoying the world afterwards and it would make for a fun moment as long as it was after the story had officially ended. MAybe some other fun stuff just to goof around.

    I'd love for them to expand the games in the Golden Saucer just cus they can. Maybe toss in some Square classics like Rad Racer just to fill the joint out a bit.

    Other than that just hoping for fun. And that they go and work out the rights to Parasite Eve. That book is over twenty years old the author should be over the moon if someone wants to buy the rights again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew View Post
    never played ff7 this game better be good or i will never trust any of you shitheads
    While it's fun it is quite possibly the most overhyped game in the history of the universe. Personally I find you can literally tell when a person started gaming by if they swear by FF7 of FF6. I'm not gonna talk about all these damn youngins on my goddamn lawn but. . .don't put me on that list of untrustworthy whippersnappers if you don't think this game is the bees knees.

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    4 is better than 6.

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    JP why does someone so awesome have such awful Final Fantasy opinions? XII was garbage. I would fight you but we'll have to sit through five unskippable cutscenes that make no sense first.

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    My dislike of XII isn't even the cut scenes it the battle system works too well and not well enough. I had those gambits set so well that the game literally played itself while I leveled up my pokemon. I don't remember the entire chain but it was like, attack, if flying us magic, if weak heal, if really weak use potion, if this person attacks attack what they attack. And since the living monsters were farther along in the dungeon they'd navigate the dungeon largely without my help. Twas great.

    Then BAM this plant dragon shows up and BAM Shiva shows up and I have no idea how to take active control of a battle because I've been so used to being a passive participant. But that's mostly on me you know?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVDA View Post
    4 is better than 6.
    My only real dislike of 4 are three major things. First how everybody who died or sacrificed themselves along the way both come back from the dead making their deaths kinda meaningless long term, and two they are alive and they stick me with a crappy party instead of getting down here and helping the fuck out. Finally Zeromus has got to be amongst the worst end bosses of all time. And I mean all fucking time that about ruins the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Mike View Post
    JP why does someone so awesome have such awful Final Fantasy opinions? XII was garbage. I would fight you but we'll have to sit through five unskippable cutscenes that make no sense first.
    That's something I've never got, criticism of the story and characters. I think they're both outstanding. There hasn't been better character scripting or voice acting in any ff game, for me.

    The 13 series actually anger me with how far the quality level fell.

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    I'm nervous for this game. It's all about how the combat is handled. If they take it the route of these last few years of games, I'm going to be very disappointed. But I will still probably play it due to my love of the world.

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    ff12 just didnt feel right, never got into it. lacked the charm and atmosphere of the previous games, which is really where final fantasy has always had its value. the storyline never much interested me and i didnt care for the battle system.

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    I think part of the reason that quite a few of us have so much invested in these earlier worlds is because of the text based story. You had to read so much, and your brain had to commit so much that you couldn't help but be invested in these games. They all have their flaws, but dammit I'd love to replay through just about any of them over what SquareEnix has been giving us these last 5-10 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP View Post
    X was very good and X-2 a great reinvention of existing systems.

    But XII, XII is the masterpiece. Me and Stan will fight anyone who disagrees.
    Listen to JP, he speaks the truth.

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...inalFantasyXII
    Final Fantasy XII is a complicated and detailed game noticeably different in storyline from other Final Fantasy games; whilst other games focus on individual characters, XII is less about people and more a story of Nations and nationalism, and the lengths some will go to gain power and control destiny. That's not to say it isn't a character study, with Judge Gabranth's clouded conscience and dark history being one of the major subplots - and hence why he's on the boxart. It's full of intrigue and interweaving stories, tactical team-based fighting, well-crafted dialogue and limit breaks (here called Quickenings). It explores the ideas of freedom, revenge, loyalty, peace, and the importance of dreams. It's also a deconstruction of the "Find powerful McGuffin to save the world" plot that's been around as long as the genre has, taking a much more sombre look at the pursuit of what is essentially a Weapon of Mass Destruction and the lengths to which people would go to gain — or regain — power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP View Post
    That's something I've never got, criticism of the story and characters. I think they're both outstanding. There hasn't been better character scripting or voice acting in any ff game, for me.

    The 13 series actually anger me with how far the quality level fell.
    I won't disagree XIII was a massive step down in pretty much every way, including the story and characters. I just found XII to be largely incoherent. Aside from Ashe, none of my group had clear goals, and every ten minutes we were given an info dump from random people about some other people, all of whom were hundreds of miles away. There's a deep story somewhere in there, but it was not presented well at all, being buried among atrociously long-winded dialogue and CGI schmozzes.

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    Wanted this for years... Decades, almost. Very happy it's being done but am very worried that they'll screw it all up. I just don't trust post XIII Square.

    Obviously a day one buy and all, but worried all the same.

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    Poor decision to remake this over 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Mike View Post
    I won't disagree XIII was a massive step down in pretty much every way, including the story and characters. I just found XII to be largely incoherent. Aside from Ashe, none of my group had clear goals, and every ten minutes we were given an info dump from random people about some other people, all of whom were hundreds of miles away. There's a deep story somewhere in there, but it was not presented well at all, being buried among atrociously long-winded dialogue and CGI schmozzes.
    I've always struggled with why I felt XII was a level above anything else they've come up with (beyond sticking my tongue out, eyes shut and hands over ears), why the criticims of the story made no sense to me, or that the battle system was somehow simple.

    That link Stan posted puts it better than I could have ever hoped to have. I'll push it one further; it's collectivism. The many rather than the few. How things effect all and not only some. The way the game is made lends itself to me feeling positive towards it; society over individualism.

    Main titles in the Final Fantasy series and how they represent different political, economic and social ideologies.

    If I actually make it to Uni to study Politics this side of ever, there's my dissertation. Bish, bash, bosh.

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    I ain't even gonna waste my time on this shit if it ain't turn based.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Markus Hammer View Post
    Poor decision to remake this over 6.
    Nope. I don't know if they could do FFVI justice. It is still perfect in the sprite world it is in.

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    Plus, they'd probably have Mark Hamill voice Kefka.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atty View Post
    Plus, they'd probably have Mark Hamill voice Kefka.
    And that's a problem in what universe? Though honestly as much of a pain in the ass as it would be I'd prefer FFVI to just be high end sprites that weren't feesible on the SNES over models.

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    Exact same looking sprites at higher resolution and a not flat looking map. That is all 6 needs.

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    I could never get past the incongruous graphics in FF6. Detailed enemies, chibi player caracters, poorly digitised Amano drawings for portraits. Sort it out*

    *Don't sort it out, you can't sort anything out anymore.

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    I did have some issues with that as a I got older, not so much as a kid when that just seemed like it was the way you did things.

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    another short trailer for the release date reveal. march 3rd, 2020. square enix e3 presentation is tomorrow, where we'll probably get a bunch more info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post


    another short trailer for the release date reveal. march 3rd, 2020. square enix e3 presentation is tomorrow, where we'll probably get a bunch more info.
    On my fucking birthday?

    God loves me.

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    That said, I really could do without Aerith doing her best Vanille impression.

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    Can anyone TL;DR for me and confirm whether the Golden Saucer is gonna be in the remake? Could be a dealbreaker for me.

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    That fucking music is in my head now you bastard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    Can anyone TL;DR for me and confirm whether the Golden Saucer is gonna be in the remake? Could be a dealbreaker for me.
    Theres been rumours that the game will be episodic and the first part is completely contained within Midgar.

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    That would be good. As incredible as the original was, I always found it a bit weird and anti-climactic that it started with this stunningly detailed, deep city, and then once you escaped to the world map it was sparsely populated with loads of smaller, isolated towns. It detracted from the sense of being in a living city that you got with Midgar.

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    expanded trailer.

    incredible presentation for this game. the combat system seems like a terrific middle ground, bringing battles into the standard of this generation without totally abandoning what came before it. and i love that they also include the hot buttons for people who want a more purely action game. having a choice is great. that guard scorpion fight looks intense.you've got materia, you've got them fighting weird lizard things in the sewers, barrett and cloud are cursing, they didn't completely cover up tifa. seems very, very promising. the size of this is going to be insane, even with cutting the fat.

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    Ok. Looks like I might actually get into this.

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    I hated that cunt scorpion.

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    This genuinely looks brilliant.

    I hated 15. I wasn't FF. It just wasn't. The battle system was too far removed. This looks much more like it.

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    That reveal was amazing. Just love how everything looks, the characters, the scenery, etc. The bar at the Avalanche hideout, the Shinra tower, when Cloud's walking through the train. Just perfect. Nothing was redesigned and made to look different or weird from the original. Its just like how you'd imagine it would look.

    EDIT
    Also they basically confirmed that the first game is going to be just Midgar, and its expected to be long. You get the feeling that they're going to flesh out the different portions of the game and give it more dialogue and character. You can already see a bit more personality in Cloud which I actually love since it has always been my main criticism of the character
    Everything looks amazing and even more epic. I can't wait.
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    Summons look badass in this. They're basically like huge characters that fight alongside you, rather than being just an attack move.

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    I'm so happy that there will be a turn-based classic mode for this. I wasn't even gonna bother with it.

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    This is gonna be fuckin great I'm sure. Thought I was gonna have to wait til 40 until this came out at one point.

    Back when I was living at studen acommodation during my final year at uni, was playing through the original game and had the volume turned up loud at the scene where Aeris died and was fighting Jenova, got a knock on the door thinking noise complaint and the student neighbours high-fived me for recognising FF7 hshahaaa!

    Managed to only get it for a fiver in GAME at the time when I got it. Fuckin bargain!

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    I really don't like the look of this. I looks like any other modern Square Enix Final Fantasy game. All the characters faces look the same which takes some doing as there are different sexes and races involved. They make all their characters very android like and unlovable, shame as Squaresoft were great at putting character into their sprites too.

    To echo DVDA a turn based option will probably entice me into buying/trying the game.

    Has there been any Cait SIth sightings yet? What does he look like?

    Also why are modern HUDs shit? Grey/blue things with tiny fonts that you can barely see.

    Also the buster sword looks stupid on a "real" person

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    Man you guys are being a bit picky. Hey maybe I'm more easily amused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMH View Post
    I really don't like the look of this. I looks like any other modern Square Enix Final Fantasy game. All the characters faces look the same which takes some doing as there are different sexes and races involved. They make all their characters very android like and unlovable, shame as Squaresoft were great at putting character into their sprites too.

    To echo DVDA a turn based option will probably entice me into buying/trying the game.

    Has there been any Cait SIth sightings yet? What does he look like?

    Also why are modern HUDs shit? Grey/blue things with tiny fonts that you can barely see.

    Also the buster sword looks stupid on a "real" person
    nothing on cait sith, vincent, yuffie or cid, since they're all brought into the story after the initial midgar sequence. unless they've changed things up, they probably won't show in this game or it's marketing, and they'll save their reveals for the hype of the follow up, whenever the hell that is ready to come out.

    we haven't seen red xiii yet, though. i suspect their will be at least one more dose of info and gameplay vids before the game releases, i'm thinking in either december or january, so i'm curious if they reveal him before the game comes out.

    overall, i'm loving the way this seems to be turning out. the characters all look good, what we've seen of midgar seems to have the look and feel down. i'm a huge ff7 fan, and that's with admittedly never really playing much of the game. i watched my brother play it when we got it way back in 1997 or 1998, and have since then watched other playthroughs on twitch and youtube. i got it on my vita a couple years back and made it to kalm, but truthfully the random encounters and turn based combat were just never big with me, i'd lose energy and momentum in playing myself, so this turn to be more of an action game with some menu/command based options is exciting for me, though i love the fact they're including options for play-styles, so that everyone who loved the original can come in and experience this remake without feeling like it's 100% removed from the game they came to know.

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    Cloud having a huge-ass buster sword is great. Maybe not "realistic" as such but fuck it's awesome.

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    Almost every video game character with a sword, has a big ass sword. Kind of a weird thing to criticise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RuneEdge View Post
    Almost every video game character with a sword, has a big ass sword. Kind of a weird thing to criticise.
    And that's awesome on a cartoon style character. It just looks weird on a realistic character. I wouldn't want them to change it as that's his gimmick but I dunno, I just don't love it.

    I love FF7 though ,certainly one of the best of the series (and indeed of all time) but I would prefer if they tried to make a good new FF rather than a reskin of a classic.

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    The remake is trying to stay as faithful to the source as possible. There's no other way to have gone with this really.

    I personally think the remake looks amazing. The remade music is brilliant, the character models all look exactly like how people would've imagined, the game mechanics look like the nice balance of old school and modern games. Its like everything's changed while nothing's changed either. Its almost perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RuneEdge View Post
    The remake is trying to stay as faithful to the source as possible. There's no other way to have gone with this really.

    I personally think the remake looks amazing. The remade music is brilliant, the character models all look exactly like how people would've imagined, the game mechanics look like the nice balance of old school and modern games. Its like everything's changed while nothing's changed either. Its almost perfect.
    The faces of the characters have nothing though. I know its not finished yet but they look like every other Square Enix character. Totally expressionless androids, it's an issue I have had with their games for years and a reason why I have lost my love for FF games.

    I will be interested to see how they deal with the humour in FF7. It will be important for them to get the right balance.

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    I hope "this guy are sick" is included.

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