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April 9th, 2015, 10:50 PM
#101
I get the feeling that they're trying to tell us Saul is fundamentally not a good person, even if he tried to be for a while. A bit like how they reached hard to tell us Walt wasn't doing any of it for his family even though he really was for a long time. Gilligan seems to be determined to tell us certain things just make you a pure villain.
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April 10th, 2015, 4:08 AM
#102
I never thought of Saul as a villain the way that Walt is, maybe more the way Jesse is.
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April 10th, 2015, 4:22 AM
#103
Saul and Walt are very different.
I was trying to think of what the real worst thing Saul has done... He's a rat sure but he's not poisoning kids etc
I didn't think the ending was saying Saul isn't a good person. I think basically he went back home because he wanted to feel like a big shot and that he hadn't lost his touch kind of like fuck you chuck maybe I am still that guy and always will be.
He then had a week and loved the thrill of it but got brought back to reality by his clients calling (hence him wanting to bail and go home)
Then his mate died. The important thing here was his mate had also straightened himself up and was playing by everyone elses rules and was fucking miserable. I think honestly Jimmy then realised he missed the grift too and rather than playing in a world full of sharks who were never going to respect him or his degree or anything else he needed to branch out. I think he's sick of being chucks little screw up brother. I think it dawned on him he was getting this partner path job opportunity but it might be 10 years before it came through and so what? So they could take the cases he built up? So his brother could complain he was leveraging his name/reputation?
I think Jimmy/Saul has been so sympathetic in this season that really you're supposed to think he's had his heart broken and is going off the rails but realistically he's changing the game up because with his background and his criminal record etc he's never going to be an executive corporate lawyer. There's too much judgement out there including from his own brother
Loved this season. Such a different tone and speed than breaking bad. It's lovely. Initially I was nervous it was going to be a lifeless cash in but there's a real story to be told here
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April 10th, 2015, 4:32 AM
#104
Yeah they definitely aren't saying Saul is "fundamentally not a good person". Anything but. Shades of grey everywhere in the characters of Breaking Bad. Mik's comparison to Jesse is right: Heart in the right place but tremendously flawed, fucked over to the nth degree and prone to temptation. Look how he cared about his elder clients (not taking all the money for doing the wills, the smile that came across his face when going through his voicemails in the final episode), cared about Kim, wanted to save the skateboarder's lives when he could have walked away etc. He's just had his brother completely break his heart, his best mate's died in his arms and his dreams have been taken away from him. Fuck it, I'd do what he'd do. He's human.
Last edited by The Rosk; April 10th, 2015 at 4:37 AM.
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April 10th, 2015, 5:22 AM
#105