Robbie Savage does my head in. I know it's a cliche but he is so bad. He's currently angrily asking "WHY have Tottenham played a weakened team, it doesn't make sense"...yes it does. You might not agree with the logic, you might think we should go for every trophy and respect the competition and the fans who made the journey, I understand all those arguments, but don't pretend that it's simply inexplicable when the reasons for playing a weakened team are obvious.
Dortmund don't appear to have left first gear here and completely dominated. I hope he chucks on Kane and Lamela now to have a look at this because of the ludicrous away goals rule they will need at least one, and thus far they've been incapable of holding onto the ball.
What's your view on Onomah, Simon?
Wow, flat 4-5-1, they're lying down.
Don't quite see the fuss with Onomah right now, he's ok technically but seems like a kid playing against men at the moment. Got more hope for other kids coming through like Winks, Walker-Peters, Carter-Vickers and, if we can keep him, Edwards.
Haven't seen the game cos I was on the way home from work but it sounds like a murder.
I really, really dislike Sturridge. Irrational in its ferocity.
Excellent performance and atmosphere, that's why I love going games. We battered them again but this time we won, they really would be worst than they are if De Gea didn't stay.
OH MANCHESTER IS FULL OF SHIT
does anyone know what happens if the league that wins the europa league qualifies for the championship league through their domestic league? does that league get an extra spot or the runner up in the europa league get it?
How's Onomah starting in Dortmund and on the bench at home when the game's over?
It's an additional spot isn't it? As in it's factored in on top of the league qualifiers.Originally Posted by BBF
So if Spurs were to win the Europa (lol i know) and finish 2nd then whoever finishes 5th will get a CL spot?
Wouldn't it go to the runner up?
Oh I see, no I believe the only difference that would make is the stage they qualify into. There's no outcome that sees fifth get into the Champions League.
No, the place would just get eaten up and everyone moves up a spot in qualifying terms. Currently Europa League winner still has to go into the play off round for the Champions League.
By the way, another non event of a game last night ruined by the away goals rule.
Fair enough, ta. I wasn't sure as last year Spain had five but that was because they finished outside the top four, wasn't sure about the reverse. Was hoping it might mean West Ham would have more of a chance of getting into the CL.
Unless the same thing as last year happens where both CL finalists have already qualified via the league in which case the Europa League winners go into the group stage, I THINK. The UEFA rules and regs are a bastard to read through.
I'm confused. In this example Dortmund - Liverpool final, Dortmund win but finish 2nd in their league and gain entry to the Champs League via their league finish. Where does the Europa League spot for the Champs League go? If not to the runner up then to what country or league? I'd have thought it would be easier to say in this example the runner up gets the Europa League spot for the Champs League.
This is my only hope for Pool to get into the CL
The Europa League winner goes into the Champions League playoff qualification round. In the event the winner qualifies in the league then every team that has to qualify gets bumped up a spot, so the team who just missed out on the playoff would just go straight into the playoff. There's some kind of coefficient that would decide that. The spot would not go to the runner up, I don't think.
I suppose that does make more sense to do it that way, because what would happen if both teams in the final qualified for the CL through their league otherwise.
Anywho good game last night I thought, Utd had a couple of good chances to draw level on aggregate but their finishing was pretty poor. Loved Coutinho's goal, and how he rinsed their RB, Varrela I think it was. Alex - I agree the away goal killed the game.
I'd be confident with any team bar Dortmund, which means of course we'll now draw them later on.
Bollocks. I accept no responsibility for this...
Still a 2 legged tie gives us some chance yeah!!?
Nope. I knew Dortmund were going to be good but they were phenomenal against us in both legs. That front three is just ridiculous.
As if we were getting any of the other teams.
Going to be a boss piss up for both sets of fans at both games, can't wait.
So that was a bit of a match then.
Bonkers game of football there
It certainly did
Unbelievable game, worn out after that.
Last nights game finally done me in after going Anfield since I was 10 years old. Group of individuals coming together to make an atmosphere like that, boss! Unreal support! Absolutely outrageous night that!
Still can't get my head around that game! Concede 3 away goals and still win? Only Liverpool and that's why we love the football club.
Go on Chris Scott son and do me proud tonight son.
Finiiiiiish.
Blimey.
Just cost them a second like.
18 seconds.
Oh dear. I actually wanted Liverpool to win, they're quite likeable at the moment.
Sorry.
Andy Carroll has been shite tonight
I love how half the United squad on the bench is coming out on crutches to celebrate.
When do they unveil the Griezmann prize?
Nketiah looks class for Arsenal. So he'll be sold to Sheffield United for 1.5mil in 2 years and then Wolfsburg for 20mil in 3 years.
Everton in Europe
I don't understand this. Last time you made this point it was about Afobe. Arsenal made a tidy profit and it's quite clear he isn't good enough for Arsenal. If Nketiah is good enough he'll play, like Wilshere, Szczesny, Bellerin or Iwobi. If not he'll be sold. How many of these have Arsenal got wrong?
Gattuso is captivating on the touchline.
Can't even fathom losing like Salzberg did. I would have attacked the referee for sure.
Burnley's opposition tonight is like a charity XI. They've got Adebayor, Clichy, Arda Turan, Emre Belezoglu and Mevlut Erdinc.
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