Welbeck has played better in this game than I can ever remember Giroud doing.
Welbeck has played better in this game than I can ever remember Giroud doing.
What shite this is from Liverpool, been like it all season. Shocking.
Brainless from Szczesny. Deserves to be dropped for a while for that - winning comfortably but now have to play half an hour against ten men before a big game at the weekend.
Also it's amazing that Tony Gale has managed to criticise Mesut Ozil more than any Galatasaray player tonight.
Tony Gale is ridiculous. He makes (usually misguided) observations and then just repeats them again and again. He also has this bizarre vendetta against Branislav Ivanovic and manages to criticise him about 84 times in every game (he does the commentary for some US channel and I tend to get those streams for Chelsea games) - everything from his footballing ability to his worth as a human being it seems.
Yeah the same with Ozil tonight who had a good game.
This is the same Tony Gale who thought Henry was a waste of money in his first season. He is a grade A moron.
Good display last night, was suprised Flamini didnt play but cannot believe Galatasary played 3 at the back first half.
Nice finishing by Wellbeck and Ozil had a very good game.
Sanchez is notching up the goals as well now, be great to have him, Theo and Wellbeck together - pace to burn.
I still expect us to get completely dicked on by Chelsea (as Wenger will get it tactically wrong again) but at least we are off and running in the CL.
And Sz was stupid, but I would have thought Wenger will stick with him on Sunday.
We are great. We are shit. We are great. We are shit.
Make your minds up lads.
That's Arsenal in a nutshell. Maddening infuriating.
It's Villa in a nutshell too.
That Ronaldo lad is quite good.
That was insane.
Two great finishes, our performance has dropped massively since the first goal though.
LOL
If this was ITV Clive would have mentioned Istanbul about 10 times by now.
Gerrard has been shite.
Meanwhile Arsenal are being dominated by Anderlecht and have Monreal at centre back again.
There's the mensh.
Yet another truly abysmal performance from Arsenal.
I did notice at half time a Real Madrid/Arsenal accumulator was 4/1 - which was basically saying Arsenal to win was 5/1 (at least) which seemed madness at the time.
I'm a genius.
EasyOriginally Posted by Andy
Dumb Question Amnesty:
Why do some players not swap shirts but instead point to the changing room (assuming they say they will do it inside)?
I really fucking despise Arsenal fans nowadays.
Why? It was an abject performance, it was hardly an unfair criticism.
Rosk is right, you're just to close to the situation.
Lets face it, if you won 7-0 there would still be something for you to slag off.
You were drawing away at a side in the Champions League. You dick half the League every single year and have some awesome fun Saturdays when your team scores for fun. You are what I despise. No wonder half this forum fucking hates you. You moaning moaning cunts. Fuck off.
ahahaha
Haha. It's about expectation though isn't it. You moan about Villa being crap and players not being good enough but you aren't going through administration, you aren't plummeting down the football league. Doesn't mean you don't point out things you don't like though. Arsenal are playing really badly and I'm pointing it out.
Blown away first half simple as that.
I like how Mario has taken all the heat of how shit our defence was yet again. But seriously people are moaning because he swapped shirts when asked when he was about to go into the tunnel anyway.
Who gives a fuck if Balotelli swapped his shirt? It's totally irrelevant, it's a cultural thing.
Pissed me off more to see Gerrard and Johnson laughing and joking with Ronaldo. Johnson was 30 seconds before he made a mistake for their second.
Hard not to have fun playing with the greatest player ever.
Chris, great result for us in Bulgaria though. Whatever happens at the Bernabeu qualifying will be in our own hands.
Yes of course different clubs have different expectations, but the way you moan all the fucking time is ridiculous. I savour every single win, it puts me in such a good mood even if we've beaten a QPR or a Burnley as favourites. I believe every fan should. You don't even seem to enjoy your victories at times. The expectation that you have is baffling, as though you have a divine right to be dicking other teams constantly. Friends of mine who support United even in their heyday were doing the same thing. You don't see Ringo bleating on when Chelsea are drawing a game. It makes me cringe when you have supporters on here of Derby, Forest, Villa, Everton, Southend on here, all of whom haven't won anything for a decade apart from a single League One Championship between them, yet the Arsenal fans moan the most by a country mile. Villa haven't won anything in 18 years. Yes I get frustrated at the constant uninspiring churn every year but I would snap your fucking hand off if I were to be offered Arsenal's last 15 years over Villa's. But that's part of it. You take the low points because the high points are so great... you don't even seem to know what the high points are anymore. OH FUCKING HELL OUR INJURED CUNTS ARE DRAWING AWAY IN A CHAMPIONS LEAGUE GAME. WE HAVE IT SO FUCKING HARD. Bore the fuck off. If it fucks you off so much, go support some local Scottish team that aren't going to get closed down because some fat twat fans can't sustain the wages through their incessant Bovril guzzling, because we're taking all your fucking oil. Moaning mong.
Finally a Rosk I can get on board with.
It's crazy the sense of entitlement and how they are the only club who could do things better.
I could cry. This is music to my ears. Fucking Arsenal cunts shit cunts.
If we beat QPR next Monday I'll be dancing for days. I SCREAM every single time we score. Andy probably tells everyone to calm down and points out that Kieran Gibbs had left a man free five minutes previously.
Championes, Championes Olé, Olé, Olé!!
Let us not forget how Andy celebrated the end of Arsenal's eight year trophy drought:
See JD in Scrubs when he finds out that Cox's kid is gonna be named after him - that's my reaction to all this goon bashing.
Rosk is forgetting this:
Championes, Championes Olé, Olé, Olé!!
Look at Kachloul getting a bit of Lucozade on him. Hee hee lads.
I also forgot we won the Peace Cup too. Shit memory.
Love the fact that everyone blames Ballotelli. Liverpools defending was clearly his fault. Brendan Rogers, another British manager who doesnt get criticised, lets just blame the foreigner.
We were poor last no doubt, though two last minute goals are lovely. Though Andy can be quite negative (even for an Arsenal fan) I can see where he is coming from.
We have the highest ticket prices in the country.
We have a huge cash balance in the bank that the manager refuses to spend.
The manager refuses to give the team tactics, especially in big games.
He puts players in the wrong position and expects them to play well (see - Monreal at CB, Arteta at CDM, Ozil on the wing).
He sells players and does not replace them (Tommy V for example) and then complains when we have injuries.
All this would be fine if the club didn't drip feed the fans just enough for them to believe. Opening day loss v Villa? Sign Ozil. Fans are restless? Sign Sanchez.
Great players, but it isnt built on. Compare that to Chelsea who replaced Lampard with Fabregas, Cole with Fillipe and Torres with Costa. And they are top of the league.
Schmeichel; Delaney, Alpay, Barry, Staunton; Stone, Boateng, Hendrie, Ginola; Angel, Vassell.
What a likeable eleven.
Hopefully Villa will win 10-0 then.
Annoyingly Arsenal have two players I really like now (Welbeck and Sanchez) - mind you, with the Arsenal physio record, they'll probably be retired by the next World Cup.
I bet the £26 to get into the home game against Burnley is amongst the cheapest in the country. Everyone is overpaying for tickets.
So you feel you have the right to be top of the League?
All Arsenal's cash in the bank has now gone hasn't it? I'm sure I read that.
Net spend of about £70m over the last two seasons and I'm sure I read that their wage bill had increased more than many other clubs. How much money are they supposed to have lying around?
And this!Rosk is forgetting this:
Play-off wins don't count.
Well we are also the reigning and defending multiple time Brian Clough Trophy Champions.
Weird thing to say. Rodgers was a figure of ridicule for a long time and was nearly hounded out after his first year. He's also been identified for criticism in a lot of camps this year for the start so I just don't think it's true.
Balotelli isn't blamed anymore than say Rooney would be if he did the same. It's not about nationality it's about the narrative that they want to attach. Characters like Balotelli are polarizing so talking that up generates more stories.
ahahaha
A red herring. Look at the pricing structure for the A games and even B games now.
Season tickets as well. Even when the stadium opened in 06 the cheapest was £925.
Not at all.
But with the money available and the prices charged, we should be looking to challenge for the title, yes.
Over £100m.
Arsenal should have had a serious title challenge in the last ten years but they drop out every time. Their problem is that too few of the fans are prepared to complain about the real issue, a manager who has lost his killer instinct and tactical edge.
There is a sizeable minority. Wenger is living off a decreasing amount of goodwill due to his past achievements.
If we had not won the FA Cup last year I think he would have gone.
Yeah, that old "the biggest cup trophy you can win in the country". That old thing that 95% of fans would give a teste for.
That isn't what I said though was it?
It is great we won the FA Cup, but there is a train of thought that longer term it isnt good for the club (ie - it kept Wenger there)
OK.
Do you believe that?
I don't but some do. Have a look at online gooner and you'll see
You are giving me yet more reasons to hate Arsenal fans.
I know I moan a lot, that's probably also borne out of frustration that I only tend to get to one game a season. I'm glad we won last night but it was not enjoyable to watch, it was 89 minutes of bad bad stuff. Also I don't think Arsenal are entitled to anything; wins, trophies etc. The frustration is watching the same mistakes being made over and over again.
You're right about watching a Scottish team though. Every season it's harder and harder to see Arsenal for me and I'm feeling more and more detached from the team. On the other hand I watch Dunfermline regularly and although they're often absolutely dreadful I don't really moan and I'm much more forgiving of them.
This is why I can never understand managers like Pardew , Allardyce treating the F.A cup like they do. If they managed to win it or get a good run going fans would probably be more forgiving when going through a bad run. Steve Bruce probably has given himself a bit of extra job security with last seasons run as our fans will remember that before turning on him straight away.
On the subject of Arsenal I don't think it's a surprise that they are in the situation they are in now. I remember after the cup final win having a discussion with Romford Pele that nothing had changed regarding Arsenal and that this season would just be the same as all the previous ones.
Thing is though, if they had signed a genuinely good DM and not inexplicably swapped Sagna, Jenkinson and Vermaelen for just Debuchy and Chambers, they'd be looking so much better. Or they wouldn't because of the absolutely farcical injury situation. I completely understand Arsenal fans' frustrations in that regard. Having lots of injuries is the worst. Especially when so many in the media will gloss over it when discussing how strong a side is.
Thing is though Ringo, that's exactly the sort of obvious stuff that just gets ignored season after season. The injury record is farcical but to the point where it's abundantly clear something is wrong. It was obvious in the summer we needed more defenders and defensive midfielder, obvious to everyone. That's why I and others moan. We were weak in the middle again yesterday and any Arsenal fan could've predicted that.
Arsenal's AGM was last week. There was a question from the floor where the bloke asked why no money was spent on a defender when we know the funds were there, when we were short there last season and we sold two, loaned one out and only brought one it. The question got a standing ovation! And Wenger refused to answer it. Not dodged it or avoided it, he explicitly refused to answer it.
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I do not think we will challenge again for the league or champions league with Wenger in charge. We may win a cup or two in the next three years, but thats it.
Is that acceptable? I don't know, I feel torn over the issue. On one hand for the reasons I have already given, we could be doing so much better.
But, then I look at teams like Leeds and Forest or even Newcastle and think perhaps we have been spoiled as Arsenal fans over the years. A change can sometimes go wrong - I remember Charlton doing very nicely under Curbishley and the fans wanted more than just mid table finishes. They sacked him and the club has never recovered.
Yet another truly abysmal performance from Arsenal.
It's so obvious what we're missing and the sad part is there's a lot of things. To name a few - a top defender, a top midfielder, a top striker and at least a couple of leaders. We're just weak at the moment.
Welbeck with his third big miss. We're out of our depth in this competition.
This is fucking abysmal.
Think we've had one shot to their 20+. Embarrassing.
This is absolutely rotten from Arsenal.
This is abysmal.
Look at all the other top teams and how much depth they have, we've been short for years
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All in the last two months. Boring.
Did you see how happy Tottenham were when Lamela scored his goal against some no-hopers in a tin-pot cup yesterday The Rosk? That's proper fandom. Fuck off Arsenal shit fuck cunts fuck off.
I haven't even posted anything about your moaning about injuries either. The fact is you've had the 4th most success opver the last 15 years than anyone else in the country and you moan more than anyone else. It is incessantly boring and I wish you would rein it in because it is tiresome bollocks. Fuck off to Dunfermline. Seriously.
Hahahahaahah yes Rosk keep it up lad!
This season Arsenal have won the Community Shield after winning the FA Cup last season. They have lost just two games by the end of October, away to Chelsea and Dortmund.
Abysmal.
Rotten.
Abysmal.
Abysmal.
Rotten.
#Vote4Rosk
#Pray4Andy
#NoRoskNoParty
Save Rosk, Don't Let Andy Win.
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Wenger OUT BECAUSE WE DONT WIN ENOUGH SIVERWARE but I bloody hate when he wins silverware because it means he stays.
K DEN.
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That is some Arsenal fans, yeah
Clearly everyone would have been happier with Hull win the Cup final. I know I would've.
Speaking of Arsenal (if we must), got the feeling Sunderland might bounce back from last weeks murdering and get something today.
Yep true, we'd still have to up our performances when we play those games.
Rodgers has left out Gerrard, Sterling, Balotelli, Henderson and Coutinho. Hope they get mauled.
Disgraceful decision, it shows compete contempt for the fans that travelled there.
So the accusation is he didn't buy any stars with the money just more of the same so why is playing them a problem?
You've looked like shit recently. Football has been dour as shite I think changing it isn't a terrible idea. Maybe not 7 changes but still.
The football played against newcastle was brain dead and so slow
This team is doing pretty well so far.
Bizarre from Rodgers. They actually look ok so far but I just do not understand the logic of throwing this game.
Has he dropped 7 because he's too scared of the backlash of dropping Gerrard alone?
He's probably dropped 7 to rest them for the Chelsea game.
Even if they lose this game which they probably would have done anyway if they beat Basel and Ludogorets they still go through because I can't see Real Madrid dropping any more points.
He's picked a team to keep the goal difference down and rest key players for Saturday. I hate it but I can see the logic.
Interesting theory, but I don't think it is.
Has he "dropped" Gerrard? He's clearly going to start against Chelsea.
What is happening at the Emirates?
Hope you don't mind Rosk but I'm going to have a moan. This is diabolical.
Booed off...
Yeah mental, you've got 2 games to get 1 point and you qualify.
One is against Dortmund though
As soon as they conceded that first goal, I don't think I've seen a team shit the bed as hard as that. They made Anderlecht look like Barcelona.
Can probably get the point in the other game then?
No wonder, 3-0 up at home to a crap Anderlecht team and we manage to draw 3-3. Just rubbish, no spine or fight in this team.
Except when they came from behind to win last time
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