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    Chelsea Green has broken her wrist for the third time. Shares pics in this instagram post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasori View Post
    Chelsea Green has broken her wrist for the third time. Shares pics in this instagram post.
    She just debuted with ROH and I'm not seeing anything that says she got hurt again

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdestiny View Post
    She just debuted with ROH and I'm not seeing anything that says she got hurt again
    She wasn't able to do anything at ROH because she's not cleared to wrestle. She's not cleared to wrestle because there was a cast on her wrist.

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    Ah, I didn't see anything about her arm getting injured again was all, I just figured it was from the last time it was injured.

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    When all you do is give old fashions in catering plus playing with action figures with your 45 year old bf can't be good on the wrist.

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    She just had a match with Matt Cardona VS Brian Meyers and Tenile Dashwood. She had the wrist brace on and it was a quick match.

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    That's good to hear.

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    Game changer.

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    WWE announced that Sasha Banks is out 6-8 weeks with a foot injury she suffered on Jan. 2. That means she’s out for the Rumble.

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    Gah, bummer for her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    That was quick.

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    Wasn't it a broken nose, or was it just a boop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    WWE announced that Sasha Banks is out 6-8 weeks with a foot injury she suffered on Jan. 2. That means she’s out for the Rumble.
    Dang it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VHS View Post
    Wasn't it a broken nose, or was it just a boop?
    It’s a broken nose. Not sure what @Donald was doing there, so I’ve got nothing new to report there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    It’s a broken nose. Not sure what @Donald was doing there, so I’ve got nothing new to report there.
    Donald was being Donald. He’s aware it was an old post.

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    And Sasha tweeted that she was fine. A bit premature on that unless this is purely a cautionary measure.

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    Given Sasha’s injury record, you can’t really blame people for assuming the worst really. She is Mrs Glass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Given Sasha’s injury record, you can’t really blame people for assuming the worst really. She is Mrs Glass.
    Damn, that sucks. She seems to have the worst luck sometimes. Summerslam, and now Royal Rumble. If she's okay by Wrestlemania they should have her win so they can do her big WM moment then, just in case. You never know how many chances you'll get with someone. Just look at Bayley and her unfortunate injury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supernovametalstar View Post
    Damn, that sucks. She seems to have the worst luck sometimes. Summerslam, and now Royal Rumble. If she's okay by Wrestlemania they should have her win so they can do her big WM moment then, just in case. You never know how many chances you'll get with someone. Just look at Bayley and her unfortunate injury.
    I think it’s a combination of both injury with her risky wrestling style and mental health (no offense intended with that) but I think there’s a combination of both here which has held her back.

    If she gets her head on straight and could tone her style down, she could very well be a more consistent top division player.

    Also missing a few of the big guns at the moment like Alexa and Asuka. Shayna has been wasted. Xia Li also seems to have been pushed to the side since her Mortal Kombat debut. Aaliyah after being chewed out from Sonya has been off the radar. There’s good NXT players in there as well.

    State of flux I think. Some knockbacks but also still some depth in the division. Also a chicken/egg thing over whether to announce surprises early or at the Rumble itself. I like surprises but can also understand why they announced Mickie to create some buzz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    I think it’s a combination of both injury with her risky wrestling style and mental health (no offense intended with that) but I think there’s a combination of both here which has held her back.

    If she gets her head on straight and could tone her style down, she could very well be a more consistent top division player.
    You ain't kidding about her risky style. I still remember the match with Asuka on Raw where she went for a dive through the ropes, Asuka kicked her in the face, and Sasha faceplanted on the LED board. I thought it was a mistiming and was really knocked out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Given Sasha’s injury record, you can’t really blame people for assuming the worst really. She is Mrs Glass.
    I meant premature on Sasha's part tweeting out she was okay.

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    Personally I think this is a blessing for her. The way they mucked her character about swapping her from heel to face with no real defining logic kind of made her stale for me. I live Banks to pieces but she does rely on a strong story to help her really take off. Unfortunately she hasn't been done any favors in this regard other than her brief thing with shotzy that fizzled out as well.

    While she may miss the rumble she can easily be inserted back into a great angle leading up to Mania. I don't know of I'm ready for her and Charlotte yet though. Still feels too soon to revisit that imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasori View Post
    I meant premature on Sasha's part tweeting out she was okay.
    Okay might have meant okay-not ACL or something super severe.

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    Corey Graves has been cleared by WWE medical (apparently since 2020). It appears he would be allowed to wrestle again, if he wishes and they creatively come up with a means for him to do so.
    Last edited by BGMaverick; January 12th, 2022 at 2:02 PM.

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    Would be fun to do an angle where his commentary gets him in hot water with a wrestler and it build to a match.

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    Byron should toss him out of the Rumble.

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    More likely, Cory and Carmella will move up to battle Miz and Maryse

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    Seems weird when they're doing that with Edge and Beth already.

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    When Corey Graves retired that was right when I started watching NXT. I do remember reading up on him over the years in the indies, always liked his name (sterling james keenan)

    I went back on Hulu and watched some old NXT with him in it. He was pretty good but I always remember people saying he was a total package type. He wasn't the best in the ring but he could make it work. He had the look, the mic skills. Some went as far to say he would've been the next CM Punk.

    If he does come back, what would that look like? It's been a long time. I also didn't realize how young he is. Only 37.

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    he has the possibility of being real good heat machine, hope he stays healthy

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    He's obviously going into a program with Dana Brooke.

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    Glad to hear he could be coming back to the ring. Hopefully he doesn't suffer through his previous run, those concussions are nothing to mess with.

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    I love him at the booth. I think he would be good as a leader of a stable who doesn't wrestle that often.

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    Xavier Woods is out 4-6 weeks with a torn plantaris. The plantaris is a muscle located underneath the calf.

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    Probably shouldn't be bringing around baby cows /donald

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    I'll moove on

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    The concussion angle for Lashley is reportedly a cover as he’s got a legit shoulder injury that may require surgery and knock him out of Mania.

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    Lashley officially needs shoulder surgery and will be out 4 months. Sounds like he was already injured at the Rumble. Probably why the match played out like it did.

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    Bummer. Watching the show, I was hoping it was an angle to give him a reason to still be in the title match at Mania and make it a triple threat but alas, poor Bobby.

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    That absolutely sucks.

    Good thing Brock Lesnar is the only one on the roster...

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    Major bummer for Bobby.

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    I imagine a returning babyface Bobby Lashley could get over huge if he has booking on his side and he keeps the attitude.
    Just make Lesnar vs Lashley as tweener on tweener as possible and make them a team eventually. I mean, can they get along? Wouldn't it be cool if Lesnar joined the Hurt Business because he needs back-up from MVP, and plus, Shelton and Mama Benjamin will always take him in...

    So stupid am I to get invested in this shit...

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    You know maybe if Bobby wasn't trying to do a fucking cartwheel while taking those suplexes he would be ok. I know exactly which one fucked him up to because he was taking them at an angle which nobody ever does.

    I'm also glad they didn't think Bobby should be in the Roman/Brock match. That's like when they forced Daniel Bryan last year into the Edge/Roman match, totally killed the vibe.

    Lashley as a babyface....IDK if that works like Bobby as a heel. I think in this day and age you just need to go with the flow and Lashley getting a few claps as a heel is better than turning him babyface-which he's shown over the years isn't his thing.

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    Lashley's just not a great promo. Him and MVP is the best work he's done. It works.



    If they go face with him for more than 4 months, he'd need to partner with Xavier Woods to stay over.

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    They were trying so much dumb stuff with him before they realized he just needs to be presented as the legit badass that he is, no frills. They tried all this odd face stuff with the sisters and then the heel stuff with Rush being obnoxious and talking through his matches and then Bobby cutting promos in third person and whatnot and it all felt like throwing pasta at the wall. Then they put him with MVP who was like the Heyman to his Lesnar, just tells it like it is and sells the man as a monster and then they make him a monster (who wears boss-ass suits) and it finally clicked. And you can flip the face/heel switch on that really easy 'cuz when you're a badass who just fucks people up, you just change who's on the receiving end and the switch is flipped.

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    You know I want to believe that all it takes for Lashley is switch him to fighting heels and it'll work but IDK. I don't think people want to cheer Lashley, the Hurt Business, etc. I think we want to see him stay a heel and thrive instead of doing what has never clicked=Lashley as a babyface. Go back to his first run, go watch some of his TNA stuff. I'm not saying he can't pull off the current gimmick as a babyface I'm just saying what he's doing is perfect and benefits others if he stays a heel.

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    He was already fist bumping fans on his way out at the Rumble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post
    He was already fist bumping fans on his way out at the Rumble.
    And? Every single wrestler who walks in and out of the ring, heel or babyface, are met by X amount of fans trying to get physical contact. I'm not saying 100% of the audience boo's him. I'm saying if you weigh the positives and negatives, heel Lashley wins.

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    Lashley coming back as a face would be coo.

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    I hope Lashley fully recovers after shoulder surgery / concussion protocol. Not only has his character finally gotten entertaining thanks to MVP and the Hurt Business, he has also improved significantly on the mic - generally by keeping his talking to a minimum at first, but when he does speak he is delivering well, and finally with confidence. But somewhere along the way, during his work with Drew, Kofi, and Sheamus, he finally started clicking in the ring. Put another way, for several years, he was a guy who had matches I would fast forward through. Some of it is probably the fact that he is simply finally booked a lot better now, but there's no doubt he deserves his spot on the card.

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    MVP saved Bobby Lashley. Fact.

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    Maybe stupid question so forgive me but is Shotzi on the shelf or has creative just got nothing for her?

    Possibly injury but not seen any updates recently so curious
    Last edited by Badger; February 25th, 2022 at 7:48 AM.

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    The last I heard was that her father passed but that was almost a month ago and I'm fairly certain she's been on TV (in the background) since then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    The last I heard was that her father passed but that was almost a month ago and I'm fairly certain she's been on TV (in the background) since then.
    Damn that sucks.

    Tbh wasn’t the biggest fan of her NXT gimmick but grew more of a fan when she got moved up and turned heel on Sasha.

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    I hope Lashley fully recovers after shoulder surgery / concussion protocol. Not only has his character finally gotten entertaining thanks to MVP and the Hurt Business, he has also improved significantly on the mic - generally by keeping his talking to a minimum at first, but when he does speak he is delivering well, and finally with confidence. But somewhere along the way, during his work with Drew, Kofi, and Sheamus, he finally started clicking in the ring. Put another way, for several years, he was a guy who had matches I would fast forward through. Some of it is probably the fact that he is simply finally booked a lot better now, but there's no doubt he deserves his spot on the card.
    He still wrestles the same style he has for almost 20 years it's just now he's interesting. Back in the day he was a guy who was getting a big push based solely on his look. Black Lesnar. But despite being huge, he has a baby face and was just always smiling and loving life. Hard to sink your teeth into a monster that acts so vanilla.

    Fast forward to TNA and once he linked up with MVP and was a heel, it worked. See, if people are just going to boo your boring ass anyway might as well turn heel. Just like when he came back. I think most of us who saw his work in TNA were hoping for that type of character. Instead it was back to 2005 Bobby Lashley with the rocket strapped to his back. Someone must've put in a good word for their TNA work and here we are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    He still wrestles the same style he has for almost 20 years it's just now he's interesting. Back in the day he was a guy who was getting a big push based solely on his look. Black Lesnar. But despite being huge, he has a baby face and was just always smiling and loving life. Hard to sink your teeth into a monster that acts so vanilla.

    Fast forward to TNA and once he linked up with MVP and was a heel, it worked. See, if people are just going to boo your boring ass anyway might as well turn heel. Just like when he came back. I think most of us who saw his work in TNA were hoping for that type of character. Instead it was back to 2005 Bobby Lashley with the rocket strapped to his back. Someone must've put in a good word for their TNA work and here we are.
    Yeah, as far as his wrestling goes he really hasn't changed much. And he still doesn't have a shred of charisma, which is why he's always always always bored me. But with MVP at his side, he's become somewhat ok. Wish him the best, but when he returns it's kinda going to be same same with him. Bobby should have been an unstoppable monster the moment he returned. It's been so up and down with him and it's not even his fault. WWE's writing is insanely directionless.

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    I just wish Bobby would roll guys on the mat like Lesnar did with Cena in 2002. I've seen him do some pretty cool transitions in TNA but he never really kept at it as a grappler. He shouldn't even let a dude on his feet. Just rub a dude's face in the mat, hit him a hard a few times, and finish him. If the guy gets froggy, then bust out some MMA. If he's a genuine match, then do what you've been doing. But no, he seems so tame.

    I can't help but think the Finlay feud was unnecessary and he shouldn't have had to go through the old troll out the gate. It seemed like, yeah, he'll learn through this, but with his look alone, he could have entered as a Goldberg type. I mean, they let Rodney Mack do that, didn't they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VHS View Post
    Yeah, as far as his wrestling goes he really hasn't changed much. And he still doesn't have a shred of charisma, which is why he's always always always bored me. But with MVP at his side, he's become somewhat ok. Wish him the best, but when he returns it's kinda going to be same same with him. Bobby should have been an unstoppable monster the moment he returned. It's been so up and down with him and it's not even his fault. WWE's writing is insanely directionless.
    WWE kind of eased into the TNA Lashley stuff. He came back like he never left, this John Cena type babyface. But then he linked up with Lio Rush and then once MVP came back it was money.

    I can't really blame WWE on this one. They typically don't use angles/gimmicks from other promotions especially ones like TNA who could barely get anyone to watch their product when Lashley was the belt god or whatever lol. I don't think Bobby coming in solo and just wrecking people would've mattered because he did that in TNA and it didn't click until MVP became his mouthpiece--BY ACCIDENT. It's weird how in TNA it was MVP who got hurt and Lashley took his spot and then in WWE Lashley's gets hurt and MVP slides in to his spot for a little bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio View Post
    I just wish Bobby would roll guys on the mat like Lesnar did with Cena in 2002. I've seen him do some pretty cool transitions in TNA but he never really kept at it as a grappler. He shouldn't even let a dude on his feet. Just rub a dude's face in the mat, hit him a hard a few times, and finish him. If the guy gets froggy, then bust out some MMA. If he's a genuine match, then do what you've been doing. But no, he seems so tame.

    I can't help but think the Finlay feud was unnecessary and he shouldn't have had to go through the old troll out the gate. It seemed like, yeah, he'll learn through this, but with his look alone, he could have entered as a Goldberg type. I mean, they let Rodney Mack do that, didn't they?
    Eh, his look alone wasn't enough. Just like Goldberg, it wasn't JUST his body that got him over. It was the moves, the look, but more than anything the intensity. Bobby Lashley looks like someone took a little baby head and put it on the body of a god. And he's just not believable. He's not intimidating at all. Muscles are one thing, but if you look like a crazy muthafucka in the face, that's going to take you places. Mark Jindrak had a great body, so did Mason Ryan, nobody gave a fuck.

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    Lash does need a charisma transplant. He's always come off as someone pretending to be menacing and it's never convincing. If witchcraft was possible, I'd put Will Hobbs' attitude in Lashley's brain. Boom, you got Doomsday y'all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    WWE kind of eased into the TNA Lashley stuff. He came back like he never left, this John Cena type babyface. But then he linked up with Lio Rush and then once MVP came back it was money.

    I can't really blame WWE on this one. They typically don't use angles/gimmicks from other promotions especially ones like TNA who could barely get anyone to watch their product when Lashley was the belt god or whatever lol. I don't think Bobby coming in solo and just wrecking people would've mattered because he did that in TNA and it didn't click until MVP became his mouthpiece--BY ACCIDENT. It's weird how in TNA it was MVP who got hurt and Lashley took his spot and then in WWE Lashley's gets hurt and MVP slides in to his spot for a little bit.
    It's weird how MVP came back, period. Was not expecting him to stick around at all, but hell yeah, he's money if ya ask me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Eh, his look alone wasn't enough. Just like Goldberg, it wasn't JUST his body that got him over. It was the moves, the look, but more than anything the intensity. Bobby Lashley looks like someone took a little baby head and put it on the body of a god. And he's just not believable. He's not intimidating at all. Muscles are one thing, but if you look like a crazy muthafucka in the face, that's going to take you places. Mark Jindrak had a great body, so did Mason Ryan, nobody gave a fuck.
    Yeah, but see, you're using your brain. That's not required to book WWE; they should have always trusted a formula and done things with some sort of foresight, but instead, they do weird things like having heel Triple H go over in the WM main-event, they turn Jericho heel just to keep The Rock looking strong, and they shoot guys like Randy Orton and Jack Swagger to the top. If they're willing to take weird risks like that, they should be willing to give Lashley the Rodney Mack Winning Streak. Force a dude down our throats once-in-a-while.

    Granted though, I am a moron and looking at wikipedia, it seems he did have some sort of a winning streak and it seems like he was around for a while before he started feuding with Finlay and I don't remember it happening like that at all. Erasability. What the hell he was he doing before the Finlay feud? If he was on a winning streak, it must have been against an all-time low SmackDown roster. I guess they didn't want him getting over while Batista was doing his first run as champ? I guess Ken Kennedy was the future we were looking at?

    Why am I still looking at Sports-Entertainment from my highschool years? I feel old and I have not learned a thing. I am a beast. An animal. Triple H took the best years of my life. One day, I'll cry about all the guys he signed to NXT and how he wasted years of their lives, too. Shawn Michaels got a rod in his back so he could no-sell backbreakers and such-type moves. Ric Flair didn't even get a phone-call from WWE guys when he announced that he and his wife were separating. The bald guy in FTR has heat with HBK.
    Triple H needed a sledgehammer to knock out Goldberg. Big Poppa Pump would have been a mega-star if we didn't see his thong at the Royal Rumble; I blame Triple H for that.
    Does anyone have time for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by VHS
    Lash does need a charisma transplant. He's always come off as someone pretending to be menacing and it's never convincing. If witchcraft was possible, I'd put Will Hobbs' attitude in Lashley's brain. Boom, you got Doomsday y'all.
    I find this disturbing.
    I think it's because I was just a young Warrior when I learned what voodoo was via Papa Shango. I blame Triple H for that, too. He jobbed to Warrior just to badmouth him on DVD when the time was right. That fickle motherfucker...

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    Shotzi Blackheart is injured.

    “Right now, my lower back (hurts). I actually got x-rays on it. It’s nothing crazy, but they said that my pelvic bone is tilted forward. They’ve been giving me rehab exercises and stuff. I’m way better than a month ago, for sure.

    Ten. It was pretty bad. I had a match and then I woke up the next morning and it was really hard for me to get up. I slid off of the bed onto the floor and I couldn’t even put pressure onto my knees or crawl. I’ve been off for a little bit.”

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    Was just wondering her a few days ago and she was just on SD.

    Never rains but it pours with these injuries just now.

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    Yeah I read the interview online before I saw she was on Smackdown, so I guess she must be doing better now.

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    After a bad landing from an overhead suplex, Big E has confirmed he broke his neck.

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    I'm not going to wish ill will on Ridge but it seems like he needs more training.

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    Bit of a different move though there to be fair. I think on this occasion it just seemed to be bad timing on both parts. Ridge lost his grip and E didn’t tuck his head in. Just a very unfortunate accident.

    Heart goes out to E on a speedy recovery.

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    Big E is the man.

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    That's a big problem in modern wrestling. There's so little character work and selling that a spot like that would have just been forgotten about by the end of the match, so why bother with the risk?

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    Major bummer about E.

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    Rick Boogs underwent successful surgery to repair his quad tear earlier this week in Birmingham, Alabama. He is slated to leave Birmingham this weekend to return home and begin the process of healing and rehabbing the injury.

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    Orton's storyline injury isn't as severe as being portrayed, but it appears there's a chance he's out for the rest of the year due a back injury (per Fightful). That would definitely pose a problem for Summerslam/Reigns.

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    Jesus, everything's gone mad all over the place. What will they do now? Lashley/Reigns perhaps?

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    Was Summerslam advertised as being Roman Reigns v. Randy Orton or something? I know that Dave Meltzer or some idiot guessed on a few possible opponents for Reigns this summer trying to predict the upcoming ppvs since Mania. Riddle, Cody, Lashley, Orton, and Drew were all possibles--the sleuth skills of the dirtsheet writers everyone lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo View Post
    Jesus, everything's gone mad all over the place. What will they do now? Lashley/Reigns perhaps?
    My recommendation would be Styles.

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    Rhea injury more serious than thought. Could be brain injury/concussion apparently.

    Shit.

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    Hella scary news anytime you hear the words brain injury.

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    Looking less and less likely that Big E will ever wrestle again but at least he's alive and feeling good. I wonder if he could transition to colour commentary.

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    As much as I loved the dude as an active wrestler, I hope he stays away because neck injuries are scary as shit; maybe in a handful of years, if the itch is there, he can get medically cleared like Edge did.

    In the meantime, Ettore would make a great on-screen manager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyson View Post
    As much as I loved the dude as an active wrestler, I hope he stays away because neck injuries are scary as shit; maybe in a handful of years, if the itch is there, he can get medically cleared like Edge did.

    In the meantime, Ettore would make a great on-screen manager.
    I agree with the first part of your post, because I'd much rather him stay away and be able to enjoy his life and limbs, but I am not sure I agree with him being an on-screen manager. The dude is such a strong face, and when's the last time a face needed a manager, especially if he can't take a bump to help get heat on his opponent?

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    Hope he comes back, and has a heated feud with Ridge Holland. Would love that.

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    Becky separated her shoulder at Summerslam. Her timetable for recovery is unknown at this point as they're still determining if she needs surgery or not.

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    Logan Paul w/ a torn ACL, MCL and Meniscus.

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    As much as I despise The YouTube Bros, full marks to Logan for balling the fuck out.

    Dude went above and beyond what I think anybody could have possibly expected, Roman showed a lot of faith in him and made him look legitimate. That splash while holding the iPhone was super impressive and creative, kudos for that.

    Do we have any guesses/info as to when he got hurt? Logan himself said it was halfway through the match; if so, dude deserves a lot of credit for going 10+ minutes on one shredded knee. That takes massive cajones.

    YouTube Guy got paid, elevated his name/brand even further, due to the injury will be eligible for the massive facepop if/when he returns. Fuck, can’t believe I actually want to see that dude on WWE TV again…

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    Kevin Owens out with an MCL sprain on his right knee he picked up at a house show yesterday. Out a few weeks at least if the injury doesn’t turn out to be more serious than that.

    Damn. No War Games for him. Hopefully it’s not more serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Kevin Owens out with an MCL sprain on his right knee he picked up at a house show yesterday. Out a few weeks at least if the injury doesn’t turn out to be more serious than that.

    Damn. No War Games for him. Hopefully it’s not more serious.
    Was this guy ever announced for War Games? I was thinking after Raw it would be Matt Riddle sliding in to that 5th spot. KO did cross my mind like a big shocking reveal like when he was on the NXT War Games team.

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    I think all signs were pointing towards Kevin. I imagine braun will be the one that gets slid in. I could have seen it being logan had he not gotten injured. I think the most intriguing person would be Rollins at this point but I'd be OK if they just kept it 4 on 4. I know that's not the way it typically works but it could be a nice foreshadow of Sammy getting paranoid about his spot not being in the match much to joy's delight.

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    Kevin Owens bores me, but he's valuable and I wish him a speedy recovery

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    Quote Originally Posted by virms View Post
    I think all signs were pointing towards Kevin. I imagine braun will be the one that gets slid in. I could have seen it being logan had he not gotten injured. I think the most intriguing person would be Rollins at this point but I'd be OK if they just kept it 4 on 4. I know that's not the way it typically works but it could be a nice foreshadow of Sammy getting paranoid about his spot not being in the match much to joy's delight.
    What signs though? That he had some history with Sami Zayn? You could slide in Nakamura if that's the case he's had the more recent interaction with the Bloodline. The only "sign" I can think of is that brief interaction they had a few months ago but I can't remember if anything of importance was said. Didn't he saiy Sami needed to change his shirt or something?

    They won't have it be 4 on 4 when the women are 5 on 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Was this guy ever announced for War Games? I was thinking after Raw it would be Matt Riddle sliding in to that 5th spot. KO did cross my mind like a big shocking reveal like when he was on the NXT War Games team.
    Yeah nothing was announced about him but he may have been added to possibly interact with Sami.

    They could just keep it 4 vs 4 but it depends what they want to do with Sami. Keep him as a corner man and maybe something happens with him and Jey during the match or bring in a 5th for the faces.

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    I just don't know where people were getting this idea that Kevin Owens was supposed to be in the match and that if he's not they're going to turn it into a 4 on 4 affair. Why would the Women's be 5 on 5 and the men's only be 4 on 4? There's been absolutely no connection to Owens and Zayn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    I just don't know where people were getting this idea that Kevin Owens was supposed to be in the match and that if he's not they're going to turn it into a 4 on 4 affair. Why would the Women's be 5 on 5 and the men's only be 4 on 4? There's been absolutely no connection to Owens and Zayn.
    Well their just ongoing history and the little shirt comment. The past feud with Roman too. He would’ve been simple to add in. We won’t know if that was ever the plan. Maybe it never was but we won’t know now.

    Someone like Braun could be an idea to add as a 5th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    I just don't know where people were getting this idea that Kevin Owens was supposed to be in the match and that if he's not they're going to turn it into a 4 on 4 affair. Why would the Women's be 5 on 5 and the men's only be 4 on 4? There's been absolutely no connection to Owens and Zayn.
    Who in the world said they were definitely going to turn it into a 4 on 4? I suggested I would be OK with it. Nothing more and nothing less. I don't know why your always so hellbent on twisting things up.

    Most people thought Kevin might get added as there has been plenty of news from your favorite dirt sheets (I know dirt sheets, yeet) that angles have been put on hold with Kevin, sami and the bloodline due to the unforeseen popularity rise of sami in this angle. Weird how people get an idea like that when all the outlets report it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virms View Post
    Who in the world said they were definitely going to turn it into a 4 on 4? I suggested I would be OK with it. Nothing more and nothing less. I don't know why your always so hellbent on twisting things up.

    Most people thought Kevin might get added as there has been plenty of news from your favorite dirt sheets (I know dirt sheets, yeet) that angles have been put on hold with Kevin, sami and the bloodline due to the unforeseen popularity rise of sami in this angle. Weird how people get an idea like that when all the outlets report it.
    I asked why it would be a 4 on 4, nothing more nothing less lol.

    Transparency matters, I don't really retain or read the gossip. In my head I can easily get behind KO being the 5th man, maybe that factors in to Sami turning full babyface whether that's turning on Bloodline in the match or helping the faces win, something. I get it. But it's weird how I go on social media and sprinkled throughout are these people who are voicing this like it was the only plan set in stone.

    Going into Smackdown I wasn't even sure The Bloodline were a shoe-in for War Games with the OC/Judgement Day story going the way it has been. Leaving Smackdown I didn't even think of Kevin Owens being in the match and now that I think about the people involved it seems even less likely he was going to be the 5th man. But you never know. Dave Melzter and Ryan Satin and NormanSmiley4Prez.com reporting 23 different scenarios in a 2 hour conversation and one of those become "news".....AOL chatrooms had better leaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    I asked why it would be a 4 on 4, nothing more nothing less lol.

    Transparency matters, I don't really retain or read the gossip. In my head I can easily get behind KO being the 5th man, maybe that factors in to Sami turning full babyface whether that's turning on Bloodline in the match or helping the faces win, something. I get it. But it's weird how I go on social media and sprinkled throughout are these people who are voicing this like it was the only plan set in stone.

    Going into Smackdown I wasn't even sure The Bloodline were a shoe-in for War Games with the OC/Judgement Day story going the way it has been. Leaving Smackdown I didn't even think of Kevin Owens being in the match and now that I think about the people involved it seems even less likely he was going to be the 5th man. But you never know. Dave Melzter and Ryan Satin and NormanSmiley4Prez.com reporting 23 different scenarios in a 2 hour conversation and one of those become "news".....AOL chatrooms had better leaks.
    If you read any of the dirt sheets ko's name has consistently been brought up as being a part of an angle with sami that has been pushed back due to the unforeseen popularity of the bloodline angle. Whether true or not its the same story that's been consistent the past couple of months so it's very easy to see why ko has appeared as a front runner.

    I haven't watched raw yet so I haven't seen any fall out from it but jd vs oc would also be weird booking due to tge numbers game. I mean you got 4 on 4 right now so do you add a 5th and how does that work with the women? If you exclude them now you gotta add 2 to the mix on each side. Rey is injured, do you bring edge back for tge 200th time this year. Does Beth come along? Is Rhea going to the women's war games match? Going to be some odd pairings as wwe just doesn't have enough factions or interacting storyline to make this work.

    I know they teased rhea and Bianca last week but that just kind of takes away from mias impact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virms View Post
    If you read any of the dirt sheets ko's name has consistently been brought up as being a part of an angle with sami that has been pushed back due to the unforeseen popularity of the bloodline angle. Whether true or not its the same story that's been consistent the past couple of months so it's very easy to see why ko has appeared as a front runner.

    I haven't watched raw yet so I haven't seen any fall out from it but jd vs oc would also be weird booking due to tge numbers game. I mean you got 4 on 4 right now so do you add a 5th and how does that work with the women? If you exclude them now you gotta add 2 to the mix on each side. Rey is injured, do you bring edge back for tge 200th time this year. Does Beth come along? Is Rhea going to the women's war games match? Going to be some odd pairings as wwe just doesn't have enough factions or interacting storyline to make this work.

    I know they teased rhea and Bianca last week but that just kind of takes away from mias impact.
    I didn't need to read the dirtsheets to come up with a logical scenario for Kevin Owens, that's my point. Dirtsheets are just educated fans. Any fan of wrestling who's been watching longer than 1-2 years regardless the age can fantasy book with relative ease.

    Disregarding last night's Raw I'll answer your question. They could've made the OC v. Judgement Day work but it would've been a stretch. They could've added Edge and Beth to the OC, find someone who has history with AJ like Omos as the teammate for JD, not a member but just the teammate.

    It makes more sense with the Bloodline if they're going with 5 on 5. But again, you can make an argument for many people who could've been on the other side. Drew, Rollins, Riddle, Street Profits, Brawling Brutes, Nakamura, maybe they wanted to get someone pushed a little bit and they throw in fuckin Madcap lol. Survivor Series seemed to have a growing trend of someone on a team that just didn't fit.

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    Well Owens was on Smackdown so maybe good to go after all?

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    Those God damn dirtsheets and their accurate fantasy booking

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