May 10th and 17th in Toronto and New York City. Hiroshi Tanahashi, Kazuchika Okada, Shinsuke Nakamura, KUSHIDA, Jado, Gedo, and Jushin Liger are coming.
So who do we want to see from ROH up against these guys? Or do you just do Tanahashi vs Okada in America?
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I haven't tuned into ROH in years, and I've never watched a full NJPW show. However, this is intriguing enough for me to check it out, and perhaps get more into one or both companies.
More likely get into NJPW judging by the reaction to recent shows.
Also lets hope New Japan handles the ippv
They'd be silly not to do Tanahashi/Okada unless New Japan didn't like putting their marquee match on some US indie show. Pretty lame that they won't run Philadelphia. I'd definitely go to that but don't care enough to get up to NY.
This is basically WWF vs. Smoky Mountain Wrestling. Let's just have Tanahashi/Okada, WCTT/Liger & KUSHIDA and Nakamura beating the hell out of and then pissing all over that girly prick Adam Cole.
What are some ROH vs. NJPW match ups that would be at all appealing? Is London still any good? Jacobs? There's probably a good Chris Hero match in there, maybe v. Ishii. Can AJ still go?
Who do you place Steen against?
jenny craig
A treadmill with a stick with a Twinkie at the end for him to chase
All I know is I want Tomasso Ciampa vs. Makabe, or Nakamura, or...anyone, really. I just want Ciampa vs. someone from NJPW.
ACH vs. like Ibushi or Kushida could be awesome, too.
Ciampa/Nakamura could be pretty great actually. Forgot about Ciampa. He's the man.
Bryan Alverez is reporting that there will be 8 Japanese wrestlers, Karl Anderson, the Forever Hooligans, the Young Bucks, and maybe Alex Shelley
Adam Cole would make all of Japan suck his dick.Originally Posted by Ringo
Too bad Shibata isn't coming, would have loved to see him and Ciampa throw down.
For the record, tickets to Border Wars have been on sale since November and only the first row had been sold. 2 days later and you can't get a ticket in the first 5 rows. Not bad.
So both Shelley and Kushida could be there? Maybe something like Time Splitters/Red Dragon then..
Timesplitters/Forever Hooligans makes more sense, since they could wrestle that match in their sleep.
Well, I was thinking along the lines of ROH vs.New Japan, but I'll take it.
Well they're calling the shows Global Wars and War of the Worlds, but I haven't seen anything that actually makes it clear that this is actually a ROH vs. NJPW themed event.
While true, they would be insane to not have their own work with the New Japan crew, unless they pull a Misawa and only want to wrestle New Japan talent.
Also intrigued by this, hopefully get hold of some of it when the time comes.
The IWGP Heavyweight Title will be defended at the NY show against the winner of Elgin/Steen.
Hope it's Elgin. He'd mesh better with the Japanese style, I think, and it'd be nice to see him be taught how to really do that strong style shit. Though, it would be interesting to see what Steen and Okada could pull off.
I would not assume Okada will still be champion when this show comes around
Hoping for Elgin too.
Elgin needs a big win. He just seems to be floating around lately since the Tournament last year for the ROH Title.
I am kinda excited to see the New Japan guys on ROH TV. As someone who doesn't follow Japanese Wrestling at all.
All the NJPW guys are working Border City Wrestling the night before the first show
I agree with both. Elgin's still in the mix for the title, but with Hero and Styles returning and those 2 being way more marketable and entertaining than Elgin, he's going to wait it out. Has he worked a program with Bennett? More Maria Kanellis please.
Definitely excited to see some NJPW talent in RoH and I like the idea of Elgin/Steen v. IWGP champion. Pulling for Steen, love that fat guy.
By the way, a Cewsh Reviews reader just got in contact with me and is trying to get rid of two 4th row tickets to the Toronto show. If there's any interest, PM me, and i'll get you in contact with the guy.
Yes more Maria,she is so HOT!
I watched the Cole/Hero Match from the 12th Anniversary and while I like Adam Cole I just could not get into the Match. I guess im just not that wild about Chris Hero.
Elign still being in the Title mix is good and I like his alliance with Hanson & Rowe.
Definitely seems to be confirmed now.
Awesome.
I'm trying to get all caught up on ROH tv and I just watched that match last night. I'll say this...Adam Cole, good worker, but I don't like him as the World champion. I think there are better wrestlers that could be champion. Chris Hero is one of them. I'm hoping he gets the strap soon or Jay Briscoe gets it back and has a real run with the belt. Idk if Elgin and his Anakin Skywalker delivery and his 1985 bouncer haircut, idk if the time will come when he will be given the strap. He puts on good matches but he lacks charisma both in promo and match-wise. The one thing I didn't like about Cole v. Hero is that Hero beat the living shit out of Cole 90% of the match and all it took was 3 of those german suplexes to put out Hero. And Hero sold that shit like he was beaten down by the entire roster lol.
Who doesn't like Hanson? That dude is a bad mofo.
You know who else I'm not really a fan of? Jay Lethal. Again, here's a guy with an incredible upside when it comes to what he does in the ring, but other than the brief feud he had with Steen, it's just hard to listen to the guy. It all sounds incredibly forced, which is probably why he was so much better as Black Machismo in TNA than "Serious" Jay Lethal.
Thomaso and Silas Young are 2 of my top favorites that aren't old school ROH cats like Steen and Hero. Thomaso could be World champ in 2015.
Elgin's mullet/bald spot combo isn't all that hot.
In his defense, he still managed to land the only woman in the world who is both a successful wrestler and biochemist, and who happens to look like this:
I bet he's a real teddy bear.
I was making fun of his hair on Twitter awhile back and he actually responded and had a great sense of humor.
Who's his woman, left or right?
Right. He's married to MsChif. The other one is Cheerleader Melissa.
He seems like a cool guy. I think he purposely has his hair like that. The looks of the 80's are coming back full circle.
Yeah I wasn't 100% sure who that was on the left, love me some Melissa.
http://www.f4wonline.com/more/more-t...l-with-ustream
Ring of Honor announced this morning a deal with Ustream, which handles the iPPV for New Japan Pro Wrestling, to do both the 5/10 Global Wars show from Toronto and the 5/17 War of the Worlds show from the Hammerstein Ballroom in Manhattan.
Both shows will feature ROH talent and the biggest stars from New Japan Pro Wrestling including Kazuchika Okada, Hiroshi Tanahashi, Shinsuke Nakamura, Karl Anderson, Jushin Liger and The Young Bucks.
Both shows will be priced at $14.95
The Toronto show will air at 7:30 p.m. Eastern and 4:30 p.m. Pacific. The New York show will air at 7:30 p.m Eastern and 4:30 p.m. Pacific.
They will also be available for immediate replays.
Matches
ROH & NEW JAPAN PRO WRESTLING PRESENT: GLOBAL WARS
SATURDAY, MAY 10TH, 2014
TED REEVE ARENA - TORONTO, ON CANADA
**MATCHES BROUGHT TO YOU BY NEW JAPAN PRO WRESTLING**
Hiroshi Tanahashi & Jushin Thunder Liger vs. Shinsuke Nakamura & Jado
The Bullet Club (“The Phenomenal” AJ Styles & “Machine Gun” Karl Anderson) vs IWGP Heavyweight Champion Kazuchika Okada & Gedo
Takaaki Watanabe vs. "Unbreakable" Michael Elgin (IWGP Heavyweight Title Contender)
IWGP JUNIOR HEAVYWEIGHT TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP - 3-WAY TAG TEAM MATCH
Forever Hooligans (Alex Koslov & Rocky Romero) vs. Time Splitters (KUSHIDA & Alex Shelley) vs. Young Bucks (Nick & Matt Jackson) (c)
**On 5/3 in Fukuoka, Japan The Young Bucks will defend the IWGP Junior Heavyweight Tag Team Championships against Forever Hooligans. The winners of that match will defending their championships in this three way contest.
**MATCHES BROUGHT TO YOU BY RING OF HONOR WRESTLING**
ROH WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP
Adam Cole defends against “Mr Wrestling” Kevin Steen
ROH TELEVISION CHAMPIONSHIP - 4 CORNER SURVIVAL
Jay Lethal (c) w/ Truth Martini vs. Tommaso Ciampa vs. Matt Taven vs. “Last Real Man” Silas Young
Also Signed To Appear
Mark & Jay Briscoe
Michael Bennett w/ Maria Kanellis
reDRagon (Kyle O'Reilly & Bobby Fish)
The Decade (Roderick Strong, BJ Whitmer & Jimmy Jacobs) w/ Tadarius Thomas
ACH
Cedric Alexander
ROH & NJPW Present: WAR OF THE WORLDS
Saturday, May 17th, 2014 – 7:30PM
The Hammerstein Ballroom – New York City
ROH WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP
Winner of Adam Cole vs. Kevin Steen from GLOBAL WARS (ROH) vs. Jushin “Thunder” Liger (NJPW)
It will certainly be a historic contest as ROH’s top wrestler defends his World Championship against the legendary Jushin Liger. Will Liger change the international landscape of professional wrestling by becoming the ROH World Champion? Or will Adam Cole/Kevin Steen walk out of New York with the gold and add this huge win to their list of accomplishments?
IWGP HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP
"Rainmaker" Kazuchika Okada vs. "Unbreakable" Michael Elgin (ROH)
**5/3 in Fukuoka, Japan Kazuchika Okada defends the IWGP Heavyweight Championship against AJ Styles. The winner of that match will defend against Michael Elgin on May 17th
Elgin earned his IWGP Heavyweight Championship opportunity by defeated Kevin Steen at Supercard of Honor 8. With Elgin obsessed on winning World Championships, will his New Japan dream finally come true? Or can Okada defend his gold on American soil?
ROH WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP
Champions: The Young Bucks (Bullet Club) vs. reDRagon (ROH)
The Young Bucks shocked fans by capturing the ROH World Tag Championships from reDRagon a few months ago. reDRagon has already earned their championship rematch and looks for redemption against the current IWGP Junior Heavyweight Tag Team and ROH World Tag Team Champion Young Bucks. reDRagon has been ruthless in the ring since losing the gold. Will they get back the championships that they held for the better part of last year? Or will The Young Bucks prove that what happened a few months back was not an upset or fluke?
IWGP WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP
Champions: Karl Anderson & Doc Gallows (Bullet Club) vs. Jay & Mark Briscoe (ROH)
The Briscoes are 8 time ROH World Tag Team Champions. Can they add the IWGP World Tag Team Titles to their list of accomplishments? Or will the big man tag team of Anderson and Gallows retain?
ROH WORLD TV CHAMPIONSHIP
Champion: Jay Lethal w/ Truth Martini (ROH) vs. KUSHIDA (NJPW)
Shinsuke Nakamura (NJPW) vs. Kevin Steen or Adam Cole (ROH)
Hiroshi Tanahashi (NJPW) vs. Michael Bennett w/ Maria Kanellis (ROH)
Also Signed to Appear
Gedo & Jado (NJPW)
The Forever Hooligans (Rocky Romero & Alex Koslov) (NJPW)
Takaaki Watanabe (NJPW)
The Decade (Roderick Strong, BJ Whitmer & Jimmy Jacobs) w/ Adam Page (ROH)
ACH (ROH)
Matt Taven (ROH)
Cedric Alexander (ROH)
Tommaso Ciampa (ROH)
Silas Young (ROH)
Caprice Coleman (ROH)
new york card looks good. fuck roh for not running a card in philadelphia.
On one hand, it's ridiculously shitty of them to promote this as "ROH vs. NJPW" when only one of these two shows is that at all.
On the other hand, I couldn't care less about ROH's talent, so i'm pumped that the show i'm going to has Tanahashi vs. Nakamura and Okada vs. Styles.
Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Michael Bennett
.....
But Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Adam Cole sounds pretty baller.
Where's Shibata?
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Shibata is not under contract to NJPW. Same reason for no Sakuraba and no Minoru Suzuki.
Does Shibata just have a handshake agreement with them?
More or less NJPW is the only company that can afford so many dates on him
Christ, is he really that expensive?
It is more that everyone else is broke
I'll pass that along to WWE then.
Those guys are freelancers, so they work dates whenever people can pay them and can work in any company they choose. Wrestling mercenaries.
Yeah out of all the matches I was like, how did they come up with that? That's like if there was a WWE v. TNA and they did Cena v. Xima Ion......
Might be the best place to ask this question. If I wanted to start watching some Japanese wrestling like NJPW, how would I go about doing so? Already planning on watching a bit of ROH, just looking to watch more than just WWE, as TNA generally renders me to tears, and not in a good way.
Pay for the iPPVs when they air (http://www.ustream.tv/njpw), join a wrestling torrent tracker like XWT/PWT (pretty sure I have invites) and download the shows or simply watch them when they get put up on dailymotion (http://www.dailymotion.com/wrestlingcity, http://www.dailymotion.com/JAHMAL1111, http://www.dailymotion.com/original_bonski)
Start with this year ' s Wrestle Kingdom.
ROH vs. Japan, then and now:
Poor Roddy Strong. At least the Briscoes have beards now.
You know I'm not as well versed in this area but I would also suggest checking out Japanese pro wrestling from the 90's, especially involving Shinya Hashimoto, Kenta Kobashi, Misawa, Vader had some really good stuff in Japan, so did Road Warriors, Dr. Death, and Stan Hansen, and the death match federations like FMW and Big Japan. I don't really follow it today because back in the late 80's into the 90's I would read the shit out of PWI and other wrestling mags since ordering these events on VHS would cost an arm and a leg, but with youtube it was pretty easy to go back and watch what I had read about for years.
That Jack Evans photo looks ridiculous.
I'm shocked that guy hasn't been seen more in the States outside of his TNA appearances. For all of the spotty wrestlers out there, I always rated him a bit better than most.
great suggestions. I'd also say if he's into realistic shootstyle matches to check out UWF, UWFi, Kingdom and early Rings before they went legit.
It's so sad how all of the RH guys look like total nobodies in these pictures.ROH vs. Japan, then and now:
Poor Roddy Strong. At least the Briscoes have beards now.
Just start watching current NJPW. It's fucking brilliant and literally the best promotion in the world right now, wrestling wise. I'd recommend starting with the G1 climax 2013, as it's about 20 hours long and showcases everyone and everything in NJPW at their best. 2 or 3 genuine ***** matches from this last.
Basically anything with the names Tanahashi, Okada, Devitt, Naito, or Nakamura on it is guaranteed to be awesome.
A-HEM!!!!
ISHII CRUSH.
Rumor has it the they might be adding Okada to Tanahashi vs Bennett
man is ROH boring
the three way junior tag match was fun though
Roddy Strong is as sleep inducing as ever
As opposed to the adrenaline shot that the rest of the ROH roster are?
The fact Jimmy Jacobs still exists stunned me
Anybody else watching this Kevin Steen promo to Mmmmmmmmmmbop and Jitterbug? Cause I am, and it has improved the experience immensely.
It is a thriller
he should be roh world champion by now
You too, huh?
You think I was gonna pay for this knowing ROH's iPPV track record?
You think I was going to pay for this knowing it was ROH, period?
I paid Jersey All Pro money once to see New Japan guys
RD Evans seems like the poorest man lowest rent Christian clone ever
MY CLIENT this guy
I love RD Evans.
You fucking take that back.
haha, this guy is the best thing in roh
Match of the Year.
I take it back. That was really entertaining.
I'll always have a soft spot for Jimmy Jacobs. That little midget has always captivated me
I dislike this crowd
This commentary is awful. Like legit the pits. PWG's joke commentary shits all over this.
Between the crowd and the commentary this match is fucking ruined.
Could they have been any more bored sounding on commentary?
yeah what the hell was with that commentary. awful. the crowd was odd, surprised how little they cared for tanahashi. liger is still over as fuck though which is nice.
who is this Dan Severn looking mother fucker
i care absolutely 0% for any of the ROH stuff in this show. how did it get so bad.
They were probably shocked that the match didn't start with flips and dives. Fuck did they even call a single move during that whole debacle, save the last five minutes? Oh God it's Silas Young; he makes Roderick Strong look like Steve Austin.
Is Steve Corino doing this "crash and burn" shit ironically, or is he just an idiot?
even gabe's "dangerous" is better than this
That was not good.
I am begging you; call the fucking match.
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