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    "The New Talent Initiative" phase of ECW was great. Remember Sheamus vs. Golddust in their series of matches?

    Regal with Kozlov and Ezekiel Jackson?

    Miz and Morrison vs. Shannon Moore and Jimmy Wang Yang in that 30-minute Iron Man Tag-Team match?

    That shit was fun.

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    Like Shelton being racist against Yoshi tatsu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudz Mackenzie View Post
    "The New Talent Initiative" phase of ECW was great. Remember Sheamus vs. Golddust in their series of matches?

    Regal with Kozlov and Ezekiel Jackson?

    Miz and Morrison vs. Shannon Moore and Jimmy Wang Yang in that 30-minute Iron Man Tag-Team match?

    That shit was fun.
    Yeah that's when WWECW hit its stride. The show was actually fun and exciting to watch for a while.

    I think the show has a legacy though and it's NXT. The company realized what it actually needed WWECW to be and set to work on creating that very thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Like Shelton being racist against Yoshi tatsu?
    Did that happen?

    I must’ve missed that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudz Mackenzie View Post
    Did that happen?

    I mustíve missed that.

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    At least its the black guy that gets to be racist and not have racism perpetrated against him...?



    I've got nothing.

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    I honestly felt that segment wasn't bad for the simple fact that Shelton got knocked the fuck out for being racist. It's the sort of thing you don't make a habit of, but the release of that KO was worth it.

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    I agree with Psycho. Shelton did get his for those comments. I wish Triple H had lost against Booker T in they're feud which had racial undertones. That would've been great.

    I'm not really bothered by racist jokes, as long as they are meant as jokes. Shelton was going for heel heat and was funny in moments. And it was stasifying seeing Yoshi Tatsu knock his block off.

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    I am on my way to WrestleMania XI. Really easy to see why the product was struggling at the time. Not only is the Main Event scene struggling but man the undercard is thin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kneeneighbor View Post
    I am on my way to WrestleMania XI. Really easy to see why the product was struggling at the time. Not only is the Main Event scene struggling but man the undercard is thin.
    Definitely a transitional period. It was tough for guys like HBK, Diesel, and Razor at this time because they didn't really have any legends/top guys to go over to be truly made men. Bret and Taker at least were mixing it up with Hogan, Flair, Warrior, Roddy Piper before getting the big push. Yeah sure Diesel squashed Backlund in 6 seconds but that wasn't a program. There was no Hogan, Savage, for those guys to get the rub.

    Yokozuna was someone I always felt was in the wrong place during this time. A Diesel v. Yokozuna feud would have been perfect. Not saying I didn't enjoy HBK v. Diesel, the build was awesome and the match itself was very good. But this Mania was one of those where you're like, damn no wonder they had to make it the spectacle it was.

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    Well Macho was there at WM X. They just chose to put him against Crush who he went over. Macho leaves and Crush goes no where after.

    The tag division is brutal at this time. At least they hold all of the 8 team tournament on the Sat am show.

    Each week on Raw they are debuting someone new. Mountain Man Rock, Mantuar, Hakushi all in the last month.

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    One other thing I forgot about that stands out as so bad is when they have the announcers table interviewing someone back stage or doing recaps and the green screen it and then put in fans behind the announcers. So awkward.

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    It will be interesting to see how things are when I catch up to WrestleMania XI. I saw that show live, and as a young boy I remember it being the greatest day of my life.

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    Wrestlemania XI is horrible. One of the worst Wrestlemanias, down there with Wrestlemania 2. Just a sad, depressing show. Everything with the company is wrong at that point.

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    At least we got to see two nazis wrestle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Law View Post
    Wrestlemania XI is horrible. One of the worst Wrestlemanias, down there with Wrestlemania 2. Just a sad, depressing show. Everything with the company is wrong at that point.
    I've always heard that WrestleMania IX is the worst, followed by XI and 2. It's sad to hear that cause it was a great live experience. Oh well.

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    I disagree that 9 was the worst.

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    WM 2, 9, 11, 15, and 27 are the 5 worst in my opinion. WM 1, 7, 13, 29, and 32 round out the top 10

    WM 6, 17, 19, 24, and 30 are my top 5. I think 5, 20, 26, 31, 33 round out the top 10.
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    9 is my favorite. It absolutely sucks but in a really fun way.

    2 is the biggest mess, 12 is the most boring, but 16 is actually the worst.

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    what's people's opinion on Mania 23?

    I was there Live, and loved it. So it's hard to watch it and not enjoy it still.

    It had Lashley/Trump vs Umaga/Vince, Undertaker vs Batista, a great MITB match, Cena vs Michaels and the pretty darn good MVP/Benoit

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    I haven't seen 23 in a long time but I recall feeling like people shit on it unfairly at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinner View Post
    what's people's opinion on Mania 23?

    I was there Live, and loved it. So it's hard to watch it and not enjoy it still.

    It had Lashley/Trump vs Umaga/Vince, Undertaker vs Batista, a great MITB match, Cena vs Michaels and the pretty darn good MVP/Benoit
    Its weirdly hard to enjoy anything Trump was involved in now, but Undertaker/Batista was great, Cena/Michaels is one of the more underrated Michaels 'Mania matches. Was that Money In The Bank the one that involved Flair and Finlay? That was good fun.

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    The reaction to 23 on here was pretty damn positive as I remember. More so than 22 for sure.

    The Flair/Finlay MITB was 22.

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    I think it's why I love XI so much, I was there live and enjoyed the experience so much that it's one of my favorites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cewsh View Post
    9 is my favorite. It absolutely sucks but in a really fun way.

    2 is the biggest mess, 12 is the most boring, but 16 is actually the worst.
    I agree that 12 was a snooze fest. The back lot brawl with the OJ stuff from like 3 years earlier wasnt topical or all that interesting. Also had the Warrior 30 second squash of HHH.

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    Wrestlemania 11 has a really good Diesel/Shawn Michaels match that’s marred by being a mid card title match and Shawn going up for the Jackknife like a sack of wet hammers. Aside from that, isn’t that the show Yokozuna returned on as Owen Hart’s mystery partner? There’s not much there besides LT to get hyped for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudz Mackenzie View Post
    Wrestlemania 11 has a really good Diesel/Shawn Michaels match that’s marred by being a mid card title match and Shawn going up for the Jackknife like a sack of wet hammers. Aside from that, isn’t that the show Yokozuna returned on as Owen Hart’s mystery partner? There’s not much there besides LT to get hyped for.
    Spoilers dammit! I havent gotten there yet for the mystery partner.


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    12 had some really good matches. HBK v. Bret, amazing. Diesel v. Undertaker, probably Undertaker's best match in the company to that date and a great build. Roddy Piper v. Goldust, for that time, the era we were getting into it was ahead of it's time by about 2 years. The OJ stuff was corny but everything else was incredible.

    It makes you wonder what the Razor-Goldust match would have been like though had Razor not been a dumb fuck.

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    yeah 12 wasn't the greatest Mania but I rank it ahead of the likes of 27, 29, 32 for sure which are in my top 10 for worst Manias. Those other shows are longer and more boring. The Shane/Taker HIAC and Reigns vs HHH matches were 10-15 minutes too long. each. Mania 29 had a bunch of rematches and the booking of a couple matches made no sense.

    I think 21 and 23 are very underrated. 23 had three really good matches and 21 was solid all around but the two world title matches were a miss. The show went downhill after the Angle/HBK match.

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    Is there a WrestleMania that's perfect from start to finish, or do they all have a misfire somewhere?

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    I really liked 23.

    'Mania X-7 is as close to perfect as it gets. The gimmick battle royale was supposed to be 'bad'. Plus, we got Heenan and Mean Gene on commentary, so. Excellent.

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    24 and 19 were perfect for me.

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    What's amazing about 17 is that it had no business being that good. The company had creatively hit a wall, and the popularity was certainly already on the wane. Main event was a rehash, TLC was a rehash, HHH/Taker and Angle/Benoit were thrown together, title matches didn't have much build, Vince/Shane wasn't well built, King leaving. It just worked. Lightning in a bottle. The goodwill from an all time great show in No Way Out, the return to stadium shows after 9 years, the intrigue with the WCW purchase, and having the best roster they will ever have at one time, most at their peaks or close to.

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    Watching some of these old RAWs and realizing how many people on them are now dead, only 26 years later is pretty sad. Yokozuna, Mabel, Giant Gonzalez, Mr Perfect, Owen Hart, Earthquake, Bam Bam Bigelow, Bossman, Crush, Bulldog, Ludvig Borga, Luna Vachon, Doink...I get a lot of them were obese but damn man they'd all probably be in their late 40s/early 50s and still alive. Makes me sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Watching some of these old RAWs and realizing how many people on them are now dead, only 26 years later is pretty sad. Yokozuna, Mabel, Giant Gonzalez, Mr Perfect, Owen Hart, Earthquake, Bam Bam Bigelow, Bossman, Crush, Bulldog, Ludvig Borga, Luna Vachon, Doink...I get a lot of them were obese but damn man they'd all probably be in their late 40s/early 50s and still alive. Makes me sad.
    I think some of these were suicide as well.

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    Bit funny watching jobber Hardcore Holly feuding with Lesnar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Bit funny watching jobber Hardcore Holly feuding with Lesnar.
    lol. Back in the day where it was mandatory you had to feud with the guy who broke your neck.

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    I was like Holly I know you have a reputation as a stiff worker but damn Lesnar would eat you up and spit you out in a legit fight. Same thing with that loser JBL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    I was like Holly I know you have a reputation as a stiff worker but damn Lesnar would eat you up and spit you out in a legit fight. Same thing with that loser JBL.
    Dudes like Holly and JBL are the worst type of wrestlers on the planet. These are wrestlers who take liberties on other wrestlers because the other wrestlers put their trust in these guys hands and these 2 fuckers will gladly use that against them. It's like when you get sucker punched by some one walking up going "Naw man we cool I won't do nothing" and then boom a 3 piece and a soda hits you quick.

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    Love the stories of the big bad tough guys getting schooled by some loser like Jericho or Booker T. must be a huge ego break

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Love the stories of the big bad tough guys getting schooled by some loser like Jericho or Booker T. must be a huge ego break
    JBL is by far the biggest scumbag in the history of wrestling in terms of what goes on in the ring. Why? ECW One Night Stand. Serving Blue Meaning 4-5 legit punches all because Meanie didn't think JBL was the nicest guy on the planet. But Joey Styles knocking out JBL made up for all that and you never heard JBL try to bow up to anyone after that.

    My problem with wrestlers with that whole "I'm the toughest guy in the world" act is just that, a fucking act. They're tough in terms of what their body can take in the ring but I promise you 90% of the "tough guys" in wrestling aren't stepping up to any mediocre martial artist ready to throw hands.

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    I'm gonna have to change my setup. Starting may 21st WWE Network will no longer work on

    Amazon Fire Tablets
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    God bless the PS4!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rancid_Planet View Post
    I'm gonna have to change my setup. Starting may 21st WWE Network will no longer work on

    Amazon Fire Tablets
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    Same here, been using a PS3 for it mainly, sometimes the Fire tablet. Also have an LG TV but not sure of year. Was looking at getting a new TV anyway, cheaper alternative than PS4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Same here, been using a PS3 for it mainly, sometimes the Fire tablet. Also have an LG TV but not sure of year. Was looking at getting a new TV anyway, cheaper alternative than PS4.
    I think you should just get a PS4. Not just for network but PS3 is out and better games and graphics on the PS4 too. Better value in the long run than buying a new TV I think.

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    I have to get a PS4 so I can play Last of Us 2 anyway.

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    Was watching an old Raw just before Survivor Series 1998. Boss Man was beating up Vince's stooges in the cage then Austin and Taker come out to go at it followed by Kane who sets parts of the cage on fire. Such a cool visual that I had forgotten.

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    Anyone else watch the Holy Grail thing about the Bret Hart vs. Tom McGee match? Pretty interesting stuff but I'm still not clear on why things didn't pan out with the guy. Seems like they raised the question a lot better than they answered it. It just suddenly turned into "Well, because Bret was the real star" but they also said it took them a long time to figure that out, so it didn't really address McGee fizzling out. It also was weird/disappointing that they end it by showing the match to him and Bret but then that's it, they don't come back to either of them to get their reactions. Seems like the logical and nice way to end the thing would've been with McGee giving his thoughts on it. They took the time to get the guy and interview him about the match, which he's never actually seen, and then show it to him and then...

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