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    Quote Originally Posted by thetony View Post
    And I've already acknowledged the whole "numbers thing" vs "global reach thing". It's just something I don't agree with.

    If we're going to talk about numbers what about the earth's other 6 billion citizens who have no idea who this guy is.
    It's not up for whether you agree with it or not, it's a factual statement.

    Total up all of the test cricket playing nations, and the number is around 2.2 billion. So roughly 25% of everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot View Post
    There's only 20 million people on the entire massive continent of Australia?

    I did not know that.

    Carry on.

    Also I vote Peyton Manning.
    22m, but yeah whatever. Half of them live in one of three cities.

    Peyton Manning wouldn't even be top 20.

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    Sure. going by numbers he would be the most popular. I've admitted this.

    It just seems like such a centralized figure that worldwide popularity or "most famous on earth" goes further beyond one or two or half a dozen country's opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oxford English Dictionary
    fame: the state of being known by many people
    I don't see how national borders come into this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simmo Fortyone View Post
    22m, but yeah whatever. Half of them live in one of three cities.

    Peyton Manning wouldn't even be top 20.
    I'd expect him to be even lower that 20. There have to be 20 soccer players known better worldwide than any NFL player. Let alone the 16 billion people who follow cricket in India, Pakistan and Bangladesh alone.

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    EDIT fucking double post bullshit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simmo Fortyone View Post
    You'd be surprised at how wide reaching Nike's advertising is.
    The most famous American in China, to this day, is the Marlboro Man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMH View Post
    Why wouldnt they? Hes a black golfer with a weird name. Everyone knows him. Maybe not the North Koreans or something but I reckon everyone else in the world is at least aware of him.
    I'd guess that 80% of the World couldn't care less about golf. It's a rich white-man sport popular in rich white countries.

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    tennis is more well known than golf.

    andy murray and federer play for the people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Cash View Post
    Do you understand that 20 million is many times smaller than 1.2 billion right ?

    Beefy clearly said at the start and clarified that he is talking about most known in pure numbers.
    Indeed I did.

    If the question is defined as being purely world-wide reach (i.e. well known in the most countries) then it would obviously be David Beckham and we wouldn't have much of a thread. The interesting part is the pure numbers who might or might not know of any of these big name sportsmen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    I'd guess that 80% of the World couldn't care less about golf. It's a rich white-man sport popular in rich white countries.
    Many people will know who Tiger Woods is without having any interest in golf. Same with Beckham and maybe Ronaldo. That's my issue with Tendulkar - yes, he has huge 'coverage' in the countries that love cricket, but outside of that he isn't a celebrity in his own right, which means he's virtually unknown in the three quarters of the world that don't care about cricket. Whereas someone like Ronaldo (if we are ignoring Beckham as he's retired) may not have one country obsessed with him, but because he's the biggest name in the biggest game in the world, he has greater overall coverage, especially once you take into account all the non-fans who are aware of him because his fame goes beyond football.

    Also, a lot of Indians who are aware of Tendulkar will also be aware of Ronaldo. I suspect very few Americans, Brazilians, Russians, Chinese etc who are aware of Ronaldo are also aware of Tendulkar.

    I just can't see it with Tendulkar. Near-total coverage of India and Pakistan doesn't make up for strong coverage in basically every country in the world like the top footballers have.

    I wonder with tennis if maybe the Williams' sisters are more recognisable than Federer? Certainly they are the most famous female sport stars.
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    While underestimating Cricket in India and Pakistan I think people are also overestimating the general interest in sport in the world's population.

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    Let's assume that everyone in India/Pakistan/Bangladesh know who Tendulkar is, along with all the other major cricketing countries, that's 1.7 billion. It's reasonable to assume also that coverage would be very low in non-cricket countries, yes? So if we assume 1.7 billion, which IMO is a bit high as there are areas of Asia so poor that they probably don't know who Tendulkar is, along with presumably a lot of women...Ronaldo would need less than one in four people across the entire world to know who he is. With such huge take-up of football across the world, including China...I can't see it personally. And I think that 1.7 billion for Tendulkar is very high the more I think of it.

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    There are areas too poor to have heard of their national hero ? Here is an interesting article on tendulkar written about why he became such a huge part of Indian life
    http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles...e-indian-dream

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    From the article
    What we have not seen is a thing that we dread the most. We have not seen a day without Sachin Tendulkar somewhere around us. We have not seen a day without his name in the newspapers. To put it very simply, my generation just does not know its life without Sachin Tendulka

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/etick...110329/cricket
    Two weeks after the Mumbai terrorist attacks, India's 9/11, with the country reeling, India played a Test match against England. Sachin anchored the match, his performance rising to meet the stakes of the day, scoring more than 100 runs without getting out, which would be like dropping 50 in the NBA Finals. A century, it's called. His success, which he dedicated to those suffering in his hometown, added to his legend. Over coffee one evening, his current agent asked me, essentially, if Derek Jeter had a Secret Service detail. He was completely serious. I laughed out loud. No, I told him. He seemed surprised. Everywhere Sachin goes, the government of India protects him.
    He's a national treasure.

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    Anyways if you can excuse the stacks of posts (im posting from my phone in bed so editing is annoying) the poorness of India (despite it not being that poor) is probably a positive in his favour. Sachin came along at an interesting time in Indias history. The country was searching for national identity and to prove that india could matter. The fact that sachin is arguably the greatest batsmen of the modern era is not the entire story. India have produced good batsmen before. Gavaskar played against better bowlers in pretty god awful sides and he did well.

    Sachin transcends cricket in India because he went on to symbolise the economic growth of the country. We can split hairs on if he's the most famous sports person but he's certainly the most revered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    Many people will know who Tiger Woods is without having any interest in golf.
    Many people in rich, white countries.

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    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news...ectid=11402679

    The game that stopped two nations turned a tranquil Australian city into the heart of the Indian subcontinent.

    Adelaide has never had an audience like it.

    The sleepy South Australian capital was transformed into a heaving mass of colour and noise when it hosted Sunday's World Cup fixture between bitter foes India and Pakistan.

    One fan entering the ground summed up the prevailing feeling.

    "If there is anything bigger in cricket than a World Cup match between India and Pakistan, please let me know," said Rahil Seth, a 45-year-old Indian businessman from Melbourne.

    Depending on the feats of 22 cricketers in a game that means more to their people than any other, one nation would be plunged into mourning, the other pure joy - even though this only day two of a six-week tournament.

    There was a predicted worldwide television audience nearing 1.5 billion people - more than 1000 times the population of Adelaide.

    India v Pakistan
    Five conclusions
    A party breaks out as great rivals face off in Adelaide
    India continue Pakistan dominance

    There was a capacity crowd nudging 47,000 - 35,000 of them visitors, who long ago snapped up tickets in just 20 minutes to ensure a sell-out.

    Indians dominated the gathering, seemingly all bringing their own national tri-coloured flag.

    They drowned out bays of Pakistanis adorned in the bright green shirts of their nation's cricketers.

    Together, the Indians and Pakistanis created a memorable buzz.

    India's winning of the toss produced a deafening cheer; the sight of gigantic flags of the respective nations for a pre-game ceremony prompted standing ovations.

    There was no hint of hostility among fans or even players - Indian batsman Virat Kohli shared a bottle of water with Pakistani fielders in a game between nations who have such trouble sharing a border.

    Many fans didn't even bother booking accommodation in Adelaide. They plan to spend Sunday night at Adelaide Airport instead.

    So authorities converted the terminal into a makeshift dormitory, laying out mattresses and bean bags, scheduling Bollywood movies to play on a giant video screen and laying artificial lawns for people to watch from.

    "This is the first time the terminal will be open all night," Adelaide Airport spokesman Brenton Cox said.

    About 5000 fans were expected to spend the night at the airport before catching one of 19 flights out of Adelaide on Monday morning.

    Estimated worldwide viewers
    India v Pakistan - 2015 Cricket World Cup - 1.5 billion
    Germany v Argentina - 2014 FIFA World Cup final - 1 billion
    Super Bowl 48 - Seahawks v Broncos - 160 million viewers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    Many people in rich, white countries.
    Yeah but rich white sports still get massively marketed in poorer countries.

    I'd still wgaer Usain Bolt. The 100m final was the most watched part of the most watched sports event in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMH View Post
    Tiger Woods easily I reckon.

    I wouldnt recognize Tendulkar if he attacked me about the head and face with his cricket bat. Surely if we are using the size of India as something to go off then it would be a Chinese sports person.
    I enjoy how in a thread about who is the most famous, it took 28 posts for someone to spell one of the candidates names correctly.

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    He's retired now so its probably dhoni or kohli.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McBain View Post
    I enjoy how in a thread about who is the most famous, it took 28 posts for someone to spell one of the candidates names correctly.
    Or one post...

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    I had a feeling that would probably happen. But still, the sentiment remains.

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    It's probably an American as we have all the real sports plus the most sophisticated media coverage and also the best army.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOLDBERG'S BEST FRIEND View Post
    It's probably an American as we have all the real sports plus the most sophisticated media coverage and also the best army.
    No, lol no, yes

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    American Football is fucking awesome to be fair. It is rapidly becoming my favourite sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    American Football is fucking awesome to be fair. It is rapidly becoming my favourite sport.
    This just happened to me about 2 years ago after a lifetime of truly not giving a fuck about football.

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    Its pretty good. My brother in law is a massive fan. Supports the Detroit lions despite not being american or having any connection with Detroit outside of that. Why would anyone choose to support a traditionally terrible side.

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    They're on the ups recently and it's more fun to support an underdog. At least he's not a Patriots fan or a Cowboys fan.

    Fuck the Patriots and fuck Fro and fuck RockOverBoston.

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    We should probably add Manny Pacquiao to the list...

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    I would have to go with Cristiano Ronaldo currently, and I am not a big soccer/futbol guy.

    Next would be Tiger Woods... Of all time I would say Michael Jordan.

    I don't know the cricket guy, but if the whole world barring North America knows of him, he would have to be the winner.

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