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    Quote Originally Posted by Torn View Post
    So I list a specific backup for a specific player? So I can list 3 backups for Jacobs, Godwin and BUCS D? (obv would need to pick up a defense for this)
    see above but yea list a backup for a specific player or you can rank your backup flexes if you want (if that makes sense, which I think it does).

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    if shit happens with gronk, i wanna replace him with fells.

    and for bench ranking in case of replacement needs, I'd go cooks, gore and cook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    dick shitty.
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    i give wins to the extremely needy like a good person
    Haha

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    4-4. My team stinks but if I can make the playoffs, and if Michael Thomas comes off IR, I am hopeful I could make a run on the strength of Henry/Thomas/Watson.

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    Zack Moss on the trading block for any interested?
    @Matthew I know you don't trade often, but seems like Moss has taken over that prime opportunities from Singletary. I'm looking for some WR depth if you're interested.

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    For the record: the trade that was vetoed this weekend (Mahomes and Conner for Evans and CMac) was requested to be cancelled by the trading parties. One of them thought it would be pushed through this week before the games, the other thought it would go through after this week. Both of them agreed to cancel it and it was cancelled using veto voting (not a commissioner's override, although I would have used a commissioner veto if needed).

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    I am voting to veto the newest trade which is Russell Wilson for Gaskin and Tannehill, primary due to the player Chris Scott is dropping as part of this trade. If the trade goes through, he is dropping Cooper Kupp who will hit the waiver wire. The trade itself is moderately suspect, but dropping Kupp is wild. Kupp is 99% owned and easily a top 20 WR.

    I will not be placing a commissioner veto on this, and most people in the chat say it's fine, but I am in favor of vetoing it.

    I have spoken. Vote as you see fit. And if Kupp hits the waiver wire, may the person with the most dollars left win his service.

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    well now the above trade was vetoed (by request of the trading teams) and they re-did it to include Kupp and Jamaal Williams and Moss. So disregard what I said above, and vote on the new trade as you see fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Scott View Post
    Glad you understand Fro
    Or "suck a dildo". Whichever works, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    Kupp is ...easily a top 20 WR.
    Narrator: He isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    Narrator: He isn't.
    He is currently the 11th most started WR, and 15th most rostered. Ranked 11th this week in PPR, 15th in non PPR. (data/rankings from ESPN)

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    28th in pos rank and points according to our own scoring


    there was never a reason to bully them into vetoing the first trade, and vetoing the second trade was inane. At least they eventually got something down ppl didn’t cry over. It’s why we should look at the veto numbers in the offseason.



    Also, I want my fucking kickers back next year.

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    Vetoing a trade cos of someone being dropped is stupid as fuck

    As are kickers.

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    commissioner veto only. I know what's best for the health of the league. many of you use your veto votes wildly, one way or the other.

    I respect the viewpoint of never vetoing unless there's collusion, but if someone trades patrick mahomes for n'keal harry then you need to veto it, despite the trader's best intentions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    commissioner veto only. I know what's best for the health of the league. many of you use your veto votes wildly, one way or the other.

    I respect the viewpoint of never vetoing unless there's collusion, but if someone trades patrick mahomes for n'keal harry then you need to veto it, despite the trader's best intentions.
    Okay, Castro. Sheesh.

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    Nah I'm just kidding though. Commish veto only would cause a revolt. I personally think the veto voting system is working fairly well. We can talk about moving it back to where we had it before (5 votes needed instead of 4), and generally have a talk about what is the criteria people use for it (though we will likely always have differing viewpoints). This season has been WILD for us in terms of trades, and there have been a few vetoes. The anti-veto crowd is not liking that, and Beefy went full grudge and started voting veto on every trade out of spite. That is not ideal when it only takes 4. We voted to move to threshold to 4 votes a few years back when we had a dispute over a trade that wasn't vetoed.

    What can ya do.

    I would say 4 is a good number, as long as people aren't abusing it by voting veto on almost all trades (not just referring to Beefy here, I think I've seen some other veto votes placed on very reasonable trades and I don't know why). But if the majority wants it back up to 5, well, I am a commissioner of the people as you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    I personally think the veto voting system is working fairly well
    It's been a fucking disaster mate. Explain to anyone in any other Fantasy League you want to find about the use of vetoes in this league and they'd think it's absolutely outrageous.

    Increase the number of votes to something like eight to catch the obvious cases of collusion or cheating or do Commissioner only under strict guidance set down by the League. It can't carry it the way it has been this year which has been absolutely ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    It's been a fucking disaster mate. Explain to anyone in any other Fantasy League you want to find about the use of vetoes in this league and they'd think it's absolutely outrageous.

    Increase the number of votes to something like eight to catch the obvious cases of collusion or cheating or do Commissioner only under strict guidance set down by the League. It can't carry it the way it has been this year which has been absolutely ridiculous.
    I hear you. Of the 3 trades vetoed this year, there is one that I felt was really unnecessary. The other two I was okay with but I understand your sentiment.

    The other side of the coin to your position, in my view, is that if someone makes a trade that is clearly lopsided, let's say because one of the teams likes to roster the players from his favorite team, and the benefactor of that trade gets 2 starting caliber players for 2 bench players, then that also makes people feel ridiculous. Ridiculous that you can pay your money and scratch and claw to have a good roster, and then that other team becomes a championship contender and defeats you in the playoffs because of that lopsided trade. That's not fun either.

    Also, while I know you weren't happy that Evans/Montgomery for Watkins/Howard got vetoed, that was a pretty reasonable veto given the current rules of the league, and you vetoing every trade for the rest of the year didn't help. I wonder if the Rojo/Lazard for Diggs trade would have reached 4 votes without yours.

    These are just my thoughts. I'm not opposed to a policy change if the majority want an anything-goes policy.

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    What’s been the trades that have been vetoed so far this season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Scott View Post
    Whatís been the trades that have been vetoed so far this season?
    • David Montgomery and Mike Evans for Jordan Howard and Sammy Watkins
    • Diggs for Lazard and Ronald Jones
    • Russell Wilson, Cooper Kupp and Jamaal Williams for Ryan Tannehill, Gaskin and Zack Moss

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    Was that 2nd one mine too?

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    1st I know was terrible, I was going along really that JH was having a big year for us. Absolutely nothing wrong with that 3rd one.

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    how many have i voted veto on? pretty sure im the one who started all the shit trade and veto drama, so considering that, i dont think ive vetoed nearly anything this year, even with all this insane movement.

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    Don’t think it’s finished either. I still have DK that I could trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Scott View Post
    Don’t think it’s finished either. I still have DK that I could trade.
    You're welcome.

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    Official League Survey

    1. Should a trade ever be vetoed if there was no collusion or cheating, even if itís a highly imbalanced trade based on current common valuations of the players?
    2. Would you support a commissioner only trade review period with collusion and cheating being the only criteria for veto?
    3. Would you support keeping the voting system in place but raising it back up to 5 votes required?
    4. Is the current system (4 votes to veto) working well in your opinion?

    @Chris Scott @Alex @BGMaverick @Matthew @Honey_Badger @Morrison @Beefy @MMH @Caito @Torn @Pablo Diablo @Fro

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    1) No
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    3) aye
    4) no
    Last edited by Caito; November 26th, 2020 at 5:31 AM. Reason: Shit, there was more than the one question...

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    1. yes
    2. no
    3. yes
    4. yes

    i think this year has gone really well for trades. there's been an insane amount of them, hardly any have been vetoed. i think 4 votes is fine, but am not opposed to 5.

    main reason im for league voting for vetos is cause a lot of people approach trades like theyre playing madden. unlike in madden, where the AI is just bad and the trade will get accepted, here we have the whittling down through talks and people who want to make trades to shake up a team so bad that eventually they'll cave. the fact that most of these 'lopsided' trades almost are never in favor of a team with a worse record says something, i feel. if this was a free league, it'd be one thing, but in a league where im shelling out cash, even if the buy-in isnt all that expensive, i do not want to see the top team in the league taking the best player from a bottom ranked team for basically nothing.

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    In case the Baltimore-Steelers game gets fully postponed. Brian Hill of the Falcons is to replace James Conner of the Steelers.

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    If Baltimore/Steelers game gets postponed. DeVante Parker of the Dolphins is to replace Chase Claypool of the Steelers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    here we have the whittling down through talks and people who want to make trades to shake up a team so bad that eventually they'll cave. the fact that most of these 'lopsided' trades almost are never in favor of a team with a worse record says something, i feel.
    Who are you talking about here?

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    I've also got a lot of that Ravens/Steelers game so my subs in order are: Williams, Aghalor, Watkins, Bell, Hurst

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    If the ravens game gets cancelled, I will be using Evan engram in my TE spot instead of Andrews.

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    based on the survey responses so far, I don't know that there is a majority appetite for a "only veto for collusion" system. seems like the majority will want the vote system to stay in place, with lopsided trades still liable to be vetoed, but possibly we will raise the threshold back to 5 where we were before the incident of a few years ago. I'll wait for more to chime in before doing a formal policy vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    Who are you talking about here?
    no one specific.

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    Scared of waking up after the games start and finding another of my players is on the covid list so sub for WR/Flex is Corey Davis, then Deebo, my RB sub is Jordan Wilkins

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    based on the survey responses so far, I don't know that there is a majority appetite for a "only veto for collusion" system. seems like the majority will want the vote system to stay in place, with lopsided trades still liable to be vetoed, but possibly we will raise the threshold back to 5 where we were before the incident of a few years ago. I'll wait for more to chime in before doing a formal policy vote.

    I feel like this is an off-season conversation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    no one specific.
    Good, because it doesn't seem reflective of the people in this league.

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    I'd like to see the veto count raised to 5 votes.

    As for a Commish review - I don't feel it's necessary. We've never had a trade of "collusion" in the league, and if we did, I think others are aware enough to recognize and utilize the veto system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    I feel like this is an off-season conversation
    yes but it's good to get the temperature of the league while the season is still in-session.

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    Fulgham backup to Snell pls

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    Fulgham backup to Snell pls
    I need you to win big this week - push Caito out of the playoff hunt.

    Come on, Snell!

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    If for some reason between now and Tuesday JK Dobbins catches COVID, CEH would be my replacement player. Neither have played yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honey_Badger View Post
    If for some reason between now and Tuesday JK Dobbins catches COVID, CEH would be my replacement player. Neither have played yet.
    just to be clear.... the backup would only come into play if the Ravens game is cancelled due to covid. If Dobbins personally gets covid you wouldn't get bailed out.

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    Congrats to our playoff qualifiers:

    Bye Week
    1. BGMaverick (Regular Season Champion)
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    I'll go Pabs over Glenn.

    As for Torn and Fro, this is a huge game. On paper, Fro looks like the stronger team, but Torn's team has some nice matchup's they could feast on.

    Dick City is easily the weakest team in the playoffs. 8th most points scored on season, but had the least amount of points scored against him throughout the season. 100% luck. Should be a 6-7 team.

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    If Pabs doesn't win the whole thing he is doing something wrong. His is the only team I really didn't want to face. Adams, Cook and Mahomes is a horrible threesome to overcome, capable of winning games on their own.

    I'll need some players to go off big time which wont happen as me team is incredibly dull and boring. They are all OK and will get you around 10-16 points a week, fine for the league but not ideal for play offs.

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    Darren Waller is a pretty legit option at TE as well... Pabs has a stacked team.

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    I won't fall for your tactics. This won't be a trap game. My team still remembers Week 1 of the season.

    You're running into me at a particularly good week for you. A lot of tough defences my players are going up against.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honey_Badger View Post
    I'll go Pabs over Glenn.

    As for Torn and Fro, this is a huge game. On paper, Fro looks like the stronger team, but Torn's team has some nice matchup's they could feast on.

    Dick City is easily the weakest team in the playoffs. 8th most points scored on season, but had the least amount of points scored against him throughout the season. 100% luck. Should be a 6-7 team.
    hey we both aren't playing this upcoming week.

    because i have a bye and you suck balls.

    dick city

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    I won't fall for your tactics. This won't be a trap game. My team still remembers Week 1 of the season.

    You're running into me at a particularly good week for you. A lot of tough defences my players are going up against.
    Honestly not trying to pull any tactics here! Your team is ridiculous ever since Beefy gifted you Mahomes. It's been built very well.

    I think your main guys are match up proof anyway by and large.

    My team was good back in week one! It's got progressively weaker each week. I was top scorer until about week 6/7 and then it all went a bit meh.

    I need to hope that the likes of Kamara have a massive day, beyond him my players ceilings are relatively low.

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    good luck to all the playoff people

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    Twice both closely too you’ve fucked be up the arse ffs

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    Torn vs Fro is the rivalry game we all want to see

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew View Post
    hey we both aren't playing this upcoming week.

    because i have a bye and you suck balls.

    dick city
    If we would've played every week of the season, I'd have 9 wins, and you'd be in last place. Just the way the cookie crumbles, I guess. LOL.

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    i would have played different because i know how to adapt and overcome

    it's okay to be jealous of me

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    Perfect reply.

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    Morrison you beat me with 3 of your players scoring 0.0. We have not had good seasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    Morrison you beat me with 3 of your players scoring 0.0. We have not had good seasons.
    none of this year has made any sense.

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    It's time to end dick city.

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    @BGMaverick @Torn @Matthew @Pablo Diablo

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    Flop City

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    Sorry Matthew. Tough to lose like that.

    But at the same time....

    /dick city

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    good luck hope torn wins

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    The final 2 then, who do I cheer for here?

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    Congratulations to our 2020 Champion, Pablo Diablo!

    2020 Results
    1. Pablo Diablo (9-4) [$400]
    2. Torn (8-5) [$100]
    3. BGMaverick (10-3) [$100]
    4. Matthew (10-3)
    5. Fro (7-6)
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    8. Caito (6-7)
    9. Chris Scott (5-8)
    10. Beefy (5-8)
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    12. Alex (2-11)

    I'll get the cash prizes sent within a day or two. Good season everyone!

    @Chris Scott @Alex @BGMaverick @Matthew @Honey_Badger @Morrison @Beefy @MMH @Caito @Torn @Pablo Diablo @Fro

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    good work everyone

    c u nxt yr

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    Thank you. It was a great season and easily the best fantasy roster I've ever constructed so I'm glad to see it pay off.

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    Would definitely love ti be involved next season

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    Jotting this down now before I forget, but the only change I see for next year is raising the veto vote from 4 to 5.

    If the kicker party wants them back after we just dropped them last year, they can put a petition on my desk with 7 signatures. Otherwise we're staying with no kickers. I enjoyed the desired effect of not having the randomness of kickers.

    Quote Originally Posted by BBF View Post
    Would definitely love ti be involved next season
    I hope we can get you and kdestiny in somehow. I'm against going to 14 teams but if no one drops out and we want to consider that, I'm not opposed to putting it to a vote.

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