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    i wont be up, dont worry. thanks for the offer though

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    haha that video is superb

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    Lads, today is a big day and someone has some words for each and every one of you:

    https://www.cameo.com/v/x22oZqMYFr
    Amazing

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    that was great

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    I could probably stream it to twitch if you're going to be up Andy. Up to you.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Lads, today is a big day and someone has some words for each and every one of you:

    https://www.cameo.com/v/x22oZqMYFr
    LOVE IT.

    Iíve been warned.

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    Everyone has paid. Draft starts in 6 and a half hours. Good luck.
    Last edited by Fro; September 7th, 2020 at 12:31 PM. Reason: Math is hard

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    The draft room is now open (57 minutes until start)

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    Good luck you bunch of pricks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Scott View Post
    Good luck you bunch of pricks
    Infraction

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    ehhh i'm happy but not stoked with my draft results. gurley/bell have a lot of miles on them even though they are young (26 and 28). hoping gurley stays healthy and balls out in the falcons offense


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    Damn ... $37 for Brown! I got outbid for sure.

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    Me too haha

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    Chris Scott and HB are requesting the trade of Montgomery, Ronald Jones and Woods for Aaron Jones, Tyler Boyd and Kerryon Johnson be pushed through early in time for tonight's thursday night game. I don't object. It is a fair deal in my view.

    Any objectors? @Morrison @Matthew @Beefy

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    for reference:

    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    Statement from the Commissioner

    For immediate release:

    I am enacting a policy where I will use commissioner powers to push trades through early, prior to the completion of the standard 24 hour voting period, when the following criteria applies:

    1. The timing is such that the trade review window overlaps or approaches the next games being played and early approval would enable the traded players to compete on their new rosters immediately instead of waiting a week.
    2. Both trading parties formally consent to early approval by messaging the commissioner.
    3. The trade is deemed fair and just beyond debate.

    Early approval is subject to commissioner discretion and availability and should not be assumed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    Chris Scott and HB are requesting the trade of Montgomery, Ronald Jones and Woods for Aaron Jones, Tyler Boyd and Kerryon Johnson be pushed through early in time for tonight's thursday night game. I don't object. It is a fair deal in my view.

    Any objectors? @Morrison @Matthew @Beefy
    Haha probably get rejected by those 3

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    I'm OK with it however I will be voting veto as per my ongoing policy

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    i object

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    Meh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew View Post
    i object
    Why

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    im fine with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    Why
    Probably wants to take a few days to watch Boyd in action.

    Lets revisit on Monday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    Why
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    I am a big fan of rules being rules but it doesn't bother me really here.

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    i don't really give a shit

    anyways

    i object

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    It’s all good anyways I went Green over Boyd and fucked up. Early congrats on your win @Matthew

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    Chris my friend, you’re about to be taken to Dick City.

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    Looks like haha.

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    dick city

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    Morri. You probably weren’t watching as closely as I was. But last night if the Packers didn’t get the ball back at the end of the game in that garbage time you would have beat me by .02 points

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    Morri. You probably weren’t watching as closely as I was. But last night if the Packers didn’t get the ball back at the end of the game in that garbage time you would have beat me by .02 points
    this is what i get for rooting for the raptors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew View Post
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    Right up my backside.

    Boyd on bench cost me.

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    You guys surely love to trade

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Scott View Post
    You guys surely love to trade
    Who? Morrison and Matthew?

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    wat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honey_Badger View Post
    Who? Morrison and Matthew?
    Haha

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    Let’s trade Matthew?

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    Diggs potentially up for trade for a good RB

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    You vetoing trades @Matthew @Morrison

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    I don't agree with the veto of the trade of Stefon Diggs for Ronald Jones & Lazard. Seemed like a reasonable enough trade to me. Diggs is the best player in the deal, but Jones is a solid RB and RBs are more scarce than receivers, and Lazard is WR7 through 3 weeks. A decent 2 for 1 deal.

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    Yep. Bunch of silly bastards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    I don't agree with the veto of the trade of Stefon Diggs for Ronald Jones & Lazard. Seemed like a reasonable enough trade to me. Diggs is the best player in the deal, but Jones is a solid RB and RBs are more scarce than receivers, and Lazard is WR7 through 3 weeks. A decent 2 for 1 deal.
    Not to state the obvious but if this is not me making the trade, this 100% goes through.

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    I hate this game

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    @Chris Scott @Alex @BGMaverick @Matthew @Honey_Badger @Morrison @Beefy @MMH @Caito @Torn @Pablo Diablo @Fro

    Do you want to implement a system where you can designate a covid backup for a player who’s in a game that might be cancelled due to covid? This is the suggestion of Matthew Berry as summarized here:

    https://twitter.com/matthewberrytmr/...672680968?s=21

    This would start this week. Yes I know we’ve already had fantasy impacts due to covid so we could have started this earlier but in case there’s more outbreaks I’d like to decide on this now. Better late than never. My team has already been impacted since I have Derrick Henry who I sat this week so as not to risk a Tuesday night cancellation. No big deal since I got the win anyway.

    This would only be used for games cancelled/postponed due to covid, not for any other reason.

    Please vote yes or no to implementing this system which would allow you to start guys in a tentative covid game without risking putting up a zero if their game gets cancelled. If it gets cancelled I would retroactively adjust your roster but only if you designated a backup on your bench before the backup’s start time.

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    Yes, I would like to see this implemented.

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    This would NOT be used if an individual player gets covid at the last minute and has to sit. In that case you would still be on your own and could use your bench or IR spots to fill your roster as needed.

    This would only be for full game cancellations/postponements.

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    We can do this easily as I said in the chat. Just requires people to post their bench in order of preference and if a game is cancelled the top eligible player can be subbed in. There's a couple of scenarios where
    someone could try to work the system and if they do just don't sub the player in. Easy.

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    I vote yes.

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    I’m happy with that Fro

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    I'm not in favour of it.

    It is what it is and one of our players getting affected by Covid is no more unlucky than one of your players getting injured or scoring the second most points in a week and yet still losing to KNOBS LIKE HONEY BADGER.

    Ahem...

    Also its too late anyway as it has already affected some people. 2 IR spots should be enough. All sounds far too fiddly anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    We can do this easily as I said in the chat. Just requires people to post their bench in order of preference and if a game is cancelled the top eligible player can be subbed in. There's a couple of scenarios where
    someone could try to work the system and if they do just don't sub the player in. Easy.
    I think it might be overkill to post your bench priority every week on the idea that any game could be cancelled. That is not seemingly what Berry was suggesting, he was limiting it to games that have a known covid risk (like the Patriots games the last 2 weeks or the Titans games tonight). However, your suggestion makes some sense because a MNF could theoretically be cancelled even if there were no signs of covid until Sunday afternoon or Monday. In that case, your more proactive approach would save a team from disaster.

    So I'm fine with it if people want to do that (it just might be more work for everyone to post that every week, not that they would be forced to do it).

    At this time however I would advise people not to get bogged down in these details, as I am still looking for a majority vote to determine if we will do any of this. I am recording Beefy's vote as a yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMH View Post
    I'm not in favour of it.

    It is what it is and one of our players getting affected by Covid is no more unlucky than one of your players getting injured or scoring the second most points in a week and yet still losing to KNOBS LIKE HONEY BADGER.

    Ahem...

    Also its too late anyway as it has already affected some people. 2 IR spots should be enough. All sounds far too fiddly anyway.
    And I didn't even start Diggs... :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMH View Post
    Also its too late anyway as it has already affected some people.
    This is a fair thought but I'm hoping that no outcome has been directly affected by the uncertainty of these covid delays yet. I could be wrong because I haven't checked every game but this week for example...

    I sat Henry but I'll win anyway.
    Dick City has Josh Allen/Singletary but it looks like he's winning anyway.
    HB sat Diggs but he's winning anyway.

    So thankfully it seems like we haven't had had a major affect on the W/L column yet (and if something like that did happen already or is happening this week with other players like AJ Brown or Tannehill and I'm not aware of it, sorry).

    And even if someone did already lose because of this, that isn't necessarily a good reason to vote no on this, but I understand the sentiment. I am undecided on my vote at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    I think it might be overkill to post your bench priority every week on the idea that any game could be cancelled. That is not seemingly what Berry was suggesting, he was limiting it to games that have a known covid risk (like the Patriots games the last 2 weeks or the Titans games tonight). However, your suggestion makes some sense because a MNF could theoretically be cancelled even if there were no signs of covid until Sunday afternoon or Monday. In that case, your more proactive approach would save a team from disaster.

    So I'm fine with it if people want to do that (it just might be more work for everyone to post that every week, not that they would be forced to do it).

    At this time however I would advise people not to get bogged down in these details, as I am still looking for a majority vote to determine if we will do any of this. I am recording Beefy's vote as a yes.
    It's more than Berry is suggesting because we have a forum and a WhatsApp chat for these things to go in, be recorded and timestamped. We've that capability and might as well use it.

    It also means that if multiple players are impacted rusts catered for.

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    FWIW I'm not that bothered one way or the other, also my team has gone to shit so I've less at stake but we could get it to work. It would be a shitty if Covid really screws someone over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honey_Badger View Post
    And I didn't even start Diggs... :-)
    Getting beat by bad management is even worse!

    I mean I could have started Preston Williams I suppose but that was never going to happen...

    Well played.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    This is a fair thought but I'm hoping that no outcome has been directly affected by the uncertainty of these covid delays yet. I could be wrong because I haven't checked every game but this week for example...

    I sat Henry but I'll win anyway.
    Dick City has Josh Allen/Singletary but it looks like he's winning anyway.
    HB sat Diggs but he's winning anyway.

    So thankfully it seems like we haven't had had a major affect on the W/L column yet (and if something like that did happen already or is happening this week with other players like AJ Brown or Tannehill and I'm not aware of it, sorry).

    And even if someone did already lose because of this, that isn't necessarily a good reason to vote no on this, but I understand the sentiment. I am undecided on my vote at the moment.
    Don't get me wrong I'm not massively against it either. If we vote yes I am fine with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMH View Post
    It is what it is and one of our players getting affected by Covid is no more unlucky than one of your players getting injured or scoring the second most points in a week and yet still losing to KNOBS LIKE HONEY BADGER.
    How the turn tables.

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    I get a freeroll with Dick City this week. No harm if I lose and utter shame for him if he loses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    This is a fair thought but I'm hoping that no outcome has been directly affected by the uncertainty of these covid delays yet. I could be wrong because I haven't checked every game but this week for example...

    I sat Henry but I'll win anyway.
    Dick City has Josh Allen/Singletary but it looks like he's winning anyway.
    HB sat Diggs but he's winning anyway.

    So thankfully it seems like we haven't had had a major affect on the W/L column yet (and if something like that did happen already or is happening this week with other players like AJ Brown or Tannehill and I'm not aware of it, sorry).

    And even if someone did already lose because of this, that isn't necessarily a good reason to vote no on this, but I understand the sentiment. I am undecided on my vote at the moment.
    i think i got fucked in my latest matchup because the pats/broncos game got pushed to next week after the early games started. i couldnt rearrange my line up to move gordon to the flex, to replace him with a bench player. also missed out on all the early games as possible wire pick ups. same for defense. i lost by 4pts. being winless and in sole possession of the bottom of the rankings, i dont exactly have the luxury of benching someone like melvin gordon out of covid caution, especially when the game had already been pushed back to begin with.

    so im in favor of covid back-ups.

    though with that said, im actually feeling alright about my team after the trade i made, and it's still early enough in the season and the middle of the field in rankings isnt too far gone, that i dont feel completely hopeless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    I get a freeroll with Dick City this week. No harm if I lose and utter shame for him if he loses.
    how is this so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew View Post
    how is this so
    I'm down three starters due to injury.

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    I count 5 yes votes so far. Looking for a 6th to give us a quasi majority

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    I'm down three starters due to injury.
    wahhhh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew View Post
    wahhhh
    Doesn't bother me either way lol. Dick City will be Derp City if you lose though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    I count 5 yes votes so far. Looking for a 6th to give us a quasi majority
    Am I missing the fifth? Rodney, Chris, Pablo, Morrison

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    Vote yes

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    okay that's 6 votes for yes, I'll throw my vote on yes as well to give us a true majority. 7 yes votes, 2 no votes, 3 unvoted (torn, bgm, matthew). THE PROPOSAL PASSES.

    so basically you can post your covid backups here in the thread. you must post them before the start time of any of your backups. if a game gets cancelled or pushed into another week due to covid, and you are stuck with that player in your starting roster, I will adjust your roster based on your posted backup. the backup needs to be on your bench. ask me if you have any questions.

    falcons just shut down their facility so falcons/vikings game this week would be an example of why you should do this.

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    and again, to those who have already had covid game postponements affect their lineups in one way or another (I'm in this group), sorry, and I admit it would have been preferable to have this new policy in place from the jump for consistency, but that's the way the cookie crumbled as this wacky season unfolded.

    onward we go.

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    While where voting can we vote just for me to have Jason Sanders?

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    Tyler Eifert is my back-up TE if the ATL game is cancelled.

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    If the Colts game is cancelled, Mike Boone is my back-up RB to Jonathan Taylor.

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    I have no idea how this rule is supposed to work but I'm going to bed and waking up after the games starts so Deebo samuel is my backup if any postponements if that's how it works I dunno whatever

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    Only potential sub I need is Aaron Rodgers should KC suddenly get struck down with Covid

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    It seems like games won't be cancelled this week (fingers crossed) so we should be fine but I'll try to put some clarifications in place for next week about the rules for declaring Covid backups.

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    Morrison can you name your price for Jamison Crowder please

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    Love that Morrison. Pleasure doing business.

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    Itíll be mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by honey badger
    Hey all — this morning I woke up and went to add Gio Bernard from waivers. I did it, yay.

    Well I just logged back into the app and realized that I dropped Dionte Johnson when I picked up Bernard and I meant to drop De’ernest Johnson... honest mistake.

    I already messaged @⁨Fro⁩ about it but just wanted to shout to league and let you know - hopefully everyone understands and is cool with Fro just making the swap back.
    Posting this in here for the 2 guys who aren’t in the WhatsApp group
    @Morrison @Matthew

    I am in favor of correcting this mistaken drop, but there is some discussion going on about a tax against his FAAB budget

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    yeah, that's perfectly cool. also dont think there needs to be any tax.

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    I added him back to HB's roster, no tax

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    Hunter Henry is my Waller back-up if the game gets Covid'd

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    Covid backups. The way I see this working is that you can be as conservative with these as you want. It doesn't just have to be for games where we know there's a positive test already... because the news might not come out until Sunday morning when you might be sleeping (timezones) or working or otherwise busy, or the news relating to a MNF game could drop after the 1pm Sunday games have started. So if you want to be the guy to come into the thread and state your backups every week just on the off chance a game gets cancelled, you can be that guy. I don't think having a rule that you can only do this for games where there's a reported outbreak is the fairest way to do it, since there could be a last minute outbreak. Now I think the way most of us will do this (including myself) is we'll only state our backups when there's a reason to do so, but most of us are also probably online on Sundays before the games start. Not everyone has that cushion. So have at it.

    • Post them in this thread.
    • Your backup needs to be on your bench.
    • You have to declare your backup before the backup's game starts.
    • Once that backup plays, you can't retract it if they have a bad game (this seems like an obvious/necessary rule for fairness). So if your starter's game subsequently gets cancelled due to covid, you can't put another bench guy in for him instead of the one you already declared. Now if your starter's game doesn't get cancelled but you decide to swap them out for someone new, that would be okay.
    • This ONLY applies to games postponed/cancelled due to covid.



    Let me know if there are any more contingencies you want addressed or if you have any thoughts on what I wrote here.

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    So I list a specific backup for a specific player? So I can list 3 backups for Jacobs, Godwin and BUCS D? (obv would need to pick up a defense for this)

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    I think the next logical question is: well how do I declare backups for all of my games if I want to? Well I guess you wouldn't need to declare them for specific players, you could rank your flex players which is something Beefy suggested previously. That's okay by me.

    I will also say, if someone doesn't declare a backup but they have an obvious one-choice backup (like a backup quarterback) on their bench, I'm okay with just swapping them in the event of a covid cancellation. even if you didn't declare them, because that would have been your only option. as opposed to a flex where you have several bench options you could have put in.

    the spirit of the policy here is if your roster gets F'd by a covid postponement there will be flexibility, within reason and within fairness.

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