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    Keep kickers in.

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    Super Flex is shit.

    Kickers are fine, just tweak the scoring a bit so there isn't such a huge difference between a decent week and a good week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    re: international payments. I just want to post this while it's still somewhat fresh in our minds. PayPal works smoothly for Americans - no fees in or out to my knowledge. but for you international folks I'm not sure what the total hit is. I think you had a fee sending me the money, and I just got a $3 fee to send MMH his portion (so I ended up sending him $97), and he might have also gotten a fee to receive whatever converted amount he received.

    long story short, if you international folks want to go back to LeagueSafe next year (or some other option), that's fine by me although LeagueSafe has fees too. just speak up or else we'll probably keep status quo.

    good season, see ya next year.

    EXIT POLL: should we eliminate the kicker position?

    I vote no.
    Doesn't really matter that much to me. I play to win (or come second...) not for the money.

    That said seeing as my cars clutch and gearbox have just broke the money has came in handy.

    I'll go with whatever Torn thinks, I mean we are the only international players who are ever going to win any money....

    No offence.

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    i also beat beefy in the finals

    international destroyer

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    @Torn I owe you 20 but looks like I’ll finish above you in RFF, so that will cancel it out. But still offering to you want the money now?

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    Haha we will see at the end of RFF season, we can wait as it's easier if they cancel each other out. Cheers mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    EXIT POLL: should we eliminate the kicker position?
    I vote NO.

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    Well you wanted -10 for missed XP so we can't take that vote very seriously let's be fair

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    We should do 1 keeper in 2019.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torn View Post
    Well you wanted -10 for missed XP so we can't take that vote very seriously let's be fair
    IDK, I think my vote should be taken as seriously as anyone else who pays money to be in the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honey_Badger View Post
    We should do 1 keeper in 2019.
    I prefer a clean slate every year in this league.

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    Fair enough. I just wanted some guaranteed Zeke Elliott love in 2019.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torn View Post
    Haha we will see at the end of RFF season, we can wait as it's easier if they cancel each other out. Cheers mate.

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    Can someone get hold of me please when this gets underway this year? I thought I saw the other day that a draft date was set but that might have been automated.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    Can someone get hold of me please when this gets underway this year? I thought I saw the other day that a draft date was set but that might have been automated.

    Cheers
    I set the draft date tentatively but we will lock that down in July/early August. I've been tinkering with the scoring for kickers and D/ST as well. I will post about that soon and begin counting heads on who is returning to the league.

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    Updated Scoring: Kickers (changes in red)

    Each PAT Made (PAT) 1
    Each PAT Missed (PATM) -1
    FG Made (0-39 yards) (FG0) 2.5
    FG Made (40-49 yards) (FG40) 3
    FG Made (50+ yards) (FG50) 3.5

    FG Missed (0-39 yards) (FGM0) -1
    FG Missed (40-49 yards) (FGM40) -0.5

    Result: Kickers are nerfed by around 1 or 1.5 points per game. Now the leader last year (Fairbairn) averaged 8.6.

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    Updated scoring: Defense/Special Teams (changes highlighted)

    Kickoff Return TD (KRTD) 0 (-6)
    Punt Return TD (PRTD) 0 (-6)
    Interception Return TD (INTTD) 4 (-2)
    Fumble Return TD (FRTD) 4 (-2)
    Blocked Punt or FG return for TD (BLKKRTD) 4 (-2)
    2pt Return (2PTRET) 2
    1pt Safety (1PSF) 1
    Each Sack (SK) 1
    Blocked Punt, PAT or FG (BLKK) 2
    Each Interception (INT) 2
    Each Fumble Recovered (FR) 2
    Each Safety (SF) 2
    0 points allowed (PA0) 5
    1-6 points allowed (PA1) 4
    7-13 points allowed (PA7) 3
    14-17 points allowed (PA14) 2 (+1)
    18-21 points allowed (PA18) 1 (+1)
    28-34 points allowed (PA28) -1
    35-45 points allowed (PA35) -2 (+1)
    46+ points allowed (PA46) -4 (+1)
    Less than 100 total yards allowed (YA100) 5
    100-199 total yards allowed (YA199) 3
    200-299 total yards allowed (YA299) 1 (-1)
    350-399 total yards allowed (YA399) 0 (+1)
    400-449 total yards allowed (YA449) -1 (+2)
    450-499 total yards allowed (YA499) -2 (+3)
    500-549 total yards allowed (YA549) -3 (+3)
    550+ total yards allowed (YA550) -4 (+3)

    Kick return points are removed from D/ST to make this a straight DEFENSE position. I prefer this and it helps offset the scoring boosts in points and yards allowed. There will be significantly less negative D/ST scores, although still a few (this was the main point of tweaking). Bears and Ravens are the only teams who got fewer points in my new system, the rest got a small bump (.5 to 1.5 PPG with the worst teams getting the most boost).

    2018 scoring averages using my new system vs ESPN standard scoring
    Last edited by Fro; July 9th, 2019 at 10:48 AM.

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    Those are the ony changes. I'm keeping the IR spot. $50 Buy in. Half PPR.

    Who's in?

    1. @Chris Scott [IN]
    2. @Bandit
    3. @Fro [IN]
    4. @BGMaverick
    5. @Matthew
    6. @Honey_Badger [IN]
    7. @Cewsh [IN]
    8. @Myles
    9. @Beefy [IN]
    10. @MMH
    11. @Torn
    12. @Caito [IN]

    Anyone who wants in the league: we will probably have an open spot. Sign up now
    Last edited by Fro; June 12th, 2019 at 4:12 PM.

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    In. Can’t wait.

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    @Torn you better be in this year?

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    Of course I'm in ffs

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    I'm in

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    2019 Sign Up List
    1. Chris Scott [IN]
    2. Bandit [IN]
    3. Fro [IN]
    4. BGMaverick [IN]
    5. Matthew [IN]
    6. Honey_Badger [IN]
    7. Cewsh [IN]
    8. @Myles
    9. Beefy [IN]
    10. MMH [IN]
    11. Torn [IN]
    12. Caito [IN]

    Alternates list
    1. Morrison
    Last edited by Fro; July 9th, 2019 at 10:38 AM.

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    i am in if my name is first on the list, as i won everything last year

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    Yeah fuck it I'm in again

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    When we drafting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Scott View Post
    When we drafting
    Good question. So the last 2 years we've done a 6PM US Eastern time draft on a weeknight and I presume that's what will work best again. The final 2 weekends before the opener are holidays in the UK and US respectively.

    Currently I have it set for: Tue, Aug 27 at 6:00 PM US Eastern Time.

    That could easily be pushed back a day to Wednesday.

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    Good with me that.

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    wow this is fucking ridiculous why the fuck you disrespectin me like this

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    And again @Torn 20

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    Yes thanks for the free money again

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    @BGMaverick not in this year?

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    Your yearly reminder that this shit is RIGGED and Fro still never wins

    2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    The following draft order was randomly generated for your league:

    1 - Fro
    2 - Christopherson
    3 - Chris Scott
    4 - Matthew
    5 - Beefy
    6 - Myles
    7 - Dave
    8 - Mikey_Jones
    9 - Torn
    10 - Kneeneighbor
    11 - Caito
    12 - hithit
    2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    ok FAAB it is. silent auctions for waiver players with a $100 budget for the season. let's get crazy!

    Draft in 20 hours.

    Draft order:
    1 - Myles
    2 - Christopherson
    3 - Caito
    4 - MMH
    5 - Fro
    6 - Honey Badger
    7 - Matthew
    8 - Dave
    9 - Chris Scott
    10 - Morrison
    11 - Beefy
    12 - Torn
    2017

    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    The following draft order was randomly generated for your league:

    1 - Caito
    2 - Beefy
    3 - Cewsh
    4 - GBF
    5 - Myles or Chris Scott
    6 - Fro
    7 - Morrison
    8 - MMH
    9 - Honey Badger
    10 - Matthew
    11 - Torn
    12 - Dave
    2018

    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    YOUR RANDOM DRAFT ORDER:

    1. @Chris Scott
    2. @Bandit
    3. @Fro
    4. @BGMaverick
    5. @Matthew
    6. @Honey_Badger
    7. @Cewsh
    8. @Myles
    9. @Beefy
    10. @MMH
    11. @Torn
    12. @Caito

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    @Fro how about have $0 minimum bids on players instead of $1 for FAAB so we can just put the guys we want for free on our auction list thing instead of jumping online as soon as it all clears and grabbing them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torn View Post
    @BGMaverick not in this year?
    I'm in.

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    Morrison over Myles job done you are welcome Fro

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torn View Post
    @Fro how about have $0 minimum bids on players instead of $1 for FAAB so we can just put the guys we want for free on our auction list thing instead of jumping online as soon as it all clears and grabbing them
    done

    I'll be setting up the PayPal pool shortly and people can begin to pay. venmo is also fine.

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    but for reals im up for being in if a spot opens up.

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    Cool. I'm fine with booting Myles, I would prefer to have active posters who talk shit in the thread, but he has been in since year 1 so I'll likely give him a short leash to show up and pay. And if people want me to just boot him now, I wouldn't strongly oppose.

    Caito has re-emerged as an active poster since June, so that's good.

    2019 Sign Up List - Confirmed
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    2. Bandit
    3. Fro
    4. BGMaverick
    5. Matthew
    6. Honey_Badger
    7. Cewsh
    8. Beefy
    9. MMH
    10. Torn
    11. Caito

    Unconfirmed
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    Last edited by Fro; July 9th, 2019 at 10:42 AM.

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    One thing I forgot to highlight, which I have now highlighted, is that I reduced defensive touchdowns (INT TD, FR TD, Blocked kick TD) from 6 to 4 (rows 3-5 below). If your team scores a defensive TD you used to get 8 total points (6 for the TD plus 2 for the turnover). Now you get only 6 points (4 for the TD plus 2 for the turnover). 8 points seemed overpowered to me, 6 seems more fair, and this helped balance the other changes I made to scoring/yards.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    Updated scoring: Defense/Special Teams (changes highlighted)

    Kickoff Return TD (KRTD) 0 (-6)
    Punt Return TD (PRTD) 0 (-6)
    Interception Return TD (INTTD) 4 (-2)
    Fumble Return TD (FRTD) 4 (-2)
    Blocked Punt or FG return for TD (BLKKRTD) 4 (-2)

    2pt Return (2PTRET) 2
    1pt Safety (1PSF) 1
    Each Sack (SK) 1
    Blocked Punt, PAT or FG (BLKK) 2
    Each Interception (INT) 2
    Each Fumble Recovered (FR) 2
    Each Safety (SF) 2
    0 points allowed (PA0) 5
    1-6 points allowed (PA1) 4
    7-13 points allowed (PA7) 3
    14-17 points allowed (PA14) 2 (+1)
    18-21 points allowed (PA18) 1 (+1)
    28-34 points allowed (PA28) -1
    35-45 points allowed (PA35) -2 (+1)
    46+ points allowed (PA46) -4 (+1)
    Less than 100 total yards allowed (YA100) 5
    100-199 total yards allowed (YA199) 3
    200-299 total yards allowed (YA299) 1 (-1)
    350-399 total yards allowed (YA399) 0 (+1)
    400-449 total yards allowed (YA449) -1 (+2)
    450-499 total yards allowed (YA499) -2 (+3)
    500-549 total yards allowed (YA549) -3 (+3)
    550+ total yards allowed (YA550) -4 (+3)

    Kick return points are removed from D/ST to make this a straight DEFENSE position. I prefer this and it helps offset the scoring boosts in points and yards allowed. There will be significantly less negative D/ST scores, although still a few (this was the main point of tweaking). Bears and Ravens are the only teams who got fewer points in my new system, the rest got a small bump (.5 to 1.5 PPG with the worst teams getting the most boost).

    2018 scoring averages using my new system vs ESPN standard scoring

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    Loos good.

    Let us know when the Pay Pal is set so we can transfer the money.

    Time to start doing some mock drafts.

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    Paid
    Torn
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    Cewsh

    Unpaid
    @Chris Scott
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    @Myles
    @Beefy
    @MMH
    @Caito

    -Payment instruction has been sent to you via PM (except Myles whose PM box is full and if he doesn't show up soon I'll give his spot to Morrison). PayPal or Venmo. Let me know if you need the instruction again.

    -Draft is tentatively set for Tuesday, Aug 27 at 6:00 PM NYC Time / 11PM London Time. Speak up if you would like this changed.

    -Draft order will be set once everyone is paid.
    Last edited by Fro; July 22nd, 2019 at 2:43 PM.

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    still something wrong with the list

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    I will be paying shortly.

    We should implement a rule that when you pay you get to pick your draft spot, so the 1st person to pay gets first dibs, ongoing. Just another "fun" element to add to the mix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honey_Badger View Post
    I will be paying shortly.

    We should implement a rule that when you pay you get to pick your draft spot, so the 1st person to pay gets first dibs, ongoing. Just another "fun" element to add to the mix.
    i'm sure people who can't afford to pay immediately because of their financial situation will have a ton of 'fun' with that.

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    Get Morrison in, every one pay so I can know my draft position thanks

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    I'll pay this week

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    Yeah end of the week for me too.

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    I’ll pay by deadline no worries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torn View Post
    Your yearly reminder that this shit is RIGGED and Fro still never wins

    2015



    2016



    2017



    2018
    Who did I pick 1st? I can’t remember now.

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    Fro a better version of Honey Badger's weird idea is to randomise the draft order NOW but keep it hidden, and when someone pays you give them their draft position

    Do this please

    And make sure I'm not in the bottom 3 for the 5th year in a row too

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    I don't get why it isn't released until everyone pays.

    I also second the suggestion for Morrison to just be put in the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    I don't get why it isn't released until everyone pays.
    It isn't, we are just impatient

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torn View Post
    Fro a better version of Honey Badger's weird idea is to randomise the draft order NOW but keep it hidden, and when someone pays you give them their draft position

    Do this please
    yes. good idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    I don't get why it isn't released until everyone pays.
    I do it for a couple reasons.
    1. Incentive for everyone to pay in a timely fashion
    2. don't want someone to see they have the 12th spot and feel like they don't want to play anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    I do it for a couple reasons.
    1. Incentive for everyone to pay in a timely fashion
    2. don't want someone to see they have the 12th spot and feel like they don't want to play anymore
    People who follow that second reason are simpletons.

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    Draft order is being set now. I'm using Cewsh's email for verification purposes (he will receive it via email from the random draft generator website).

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    Your random draft order for 2019:

    1. Torn
    2. Honey_Badger
    3. ????
    4. ????
    5. ????
    6. Fro
    7. ????
    8. Cewsh
    9. ????
    10. ????
    11. ????
    12. ????

    Pay your entry fee to find out your spot!
    Last edited by Fro; July 24th, 2019 at 4:29 PM.

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    Aww shit, I got the whole list, ya’ll.

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    this begs the obvious question. will Torn take Zeke over Saquon

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    sorry, scratch the word question with certainty, and move the word Torn in front of the word will

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torn View Post
    And make sure I'm not in the bottom 3 for the 5th year in a row too
    WOW you delivered thanks man

    Yeah shouldn't be too hard to figure out who I will take

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    I don't think it's a terrible idea to pick Zeke first anyway.

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    I wouldn't pick him if it was

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    Well thats good

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    Fuck of @Torn

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    We have a what’s app group for out football game(English football) it’s a good laugh and banter. Thinking @Fro if you might want to set one up. Not sure how it works though with all the international numbers.

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    I don't mind the 6th pick except I can already anticipate the Melvin Gordon holdout saga coming into play there

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    RB holding out? That guy will be my pick...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honey_Badger View Post
    Paid.
    You have the #2 pick. Enjoy Saquon

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    What?! No way.

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    This isn't a sign of my disinterest in the league but more of Morrison's apparent interest in being in. If Myles is still in and that leaves Morrison out, Morrison can have my spot.

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    yea Morrison can have Myles's spot.

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    Cool, cool. Just wanted to throw that out there. Welcome aboard, Morrison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Scott View Post
    We have a what’s app group for out football game(English football) it’s a good laugh and banter. Thinking @Fro if you might want to set one up. Not sure how it works though with all the international numbers.
    @Fro

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Scott View Post
    I don’t know how it’s different than bantering in the thread but set it up if you think it’s cool

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    See your point I just find what’s app easier.

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    yea I would keep it in the thread but I do already have WhatsApp so I would join. I suppose it would be better for live-in-game shit talking instead of more delayed forum posting. I formally deputize you to organize it and set it up, if you wish.

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    Ok mate I’ll see if I can get one set up. Think it could be good banter for live action.

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    @Bandit
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    @Matthew
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    @Beefy
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    @Torn
    @Caito

    Is that everyone?

    If you want to join a WhatsApp group I’m setting up for this game, bit of a laugh and laughing at Beefy, Torn & MMH’s teams just message your number.

    I’ve got Beefy, Torn’s and MMH number already.

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    Added Torn, Beefy, MMH, Caito & Honey_Badger.

    Cewsh not showing your number on what’s app.

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    Join the what’s group @Matthew and rant away.

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    does it look like i rant, motherfucker?

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    Ok then bitch away...BIIIIIIIIATCH

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    Draft order (people who show up below have paid)

    1. Torn
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    3. Chris Scott
    4. Beefy
    5. ????
    6. Fro
    7. ????
    8. Cewsh
    9. ????
    10. MMH
    11. Caito
    12. Morrison

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    Last edited by Fro; July 27th, 2019 at 10:48 AM.

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    just sent my payment in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    just sent my payment in.
    You have pick #12.

    PM me your ESPN email address so I can add you to the league replacing Myles.

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    @Bandit @Matthew @Morrison @BGMaverick

    You guys joining the what’s app group?

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    You guys joining the what’s app group?
    i am not.

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