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    Yeah I'd agree with most of that. The show was, for me, too long in general. 3:30pm start and a 9:15pm finish is a LONG time and that affected the crowd around the Dunne/Ilja match where they died a little but I appreciate they wanted everyone to get on the big show.

    In terms of things to be cut...I think you'd just have to cut each match down by 5-7 minutes rather than lose one big thing. The ThunderBastard match was my favourite match on the show but you could've lost 10 minutes off there and not lost a huge amount overall whilst all the other matches could've lost 5 minutes and still been superb. I haven't seen official timings but I reckon every match touched 20 minutes except maybe Haskins/Riddle?

    The video packages were great quality and I've seen people calling for them to be cut but I think for the more casual (or first time like half of our group) fan they were a necessity. Same for Jakobi's promo. A big chunk of that crowd had zero concept of Dragunov and they needed to put him over a bit (I fucking loved his entrance btw and hope he becomes a progress staple now. That entrance in the Ballroom would be fucking rocking).

    There's not been a huge amount of chat about the matches themselves which is a shame because match quality was, as always, at the top end. I'll do a little review later on when I've got more minutes.

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    Also, in general, imagine complaining at being provided TOO MUCH of a product. So raging you overdelivered. Leave when you have to leave, thats your plan, thats your situation, your circumstances - they are providing a product and have cared so much about that delivery that they have given ADDITIONAL PRODUCT.
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    They should have presented Walter vs Tyler as an after-show match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slare View Post
    Also, in general, imagine complaining at being provided TOO MUCH of a product. So raging you overdelivered. Leave when you have to leave, thats your plan, thats your situation, your circumstances - they are providing a product and have cared so much about that delivery that they have given ADDITIONAL PRODUCT.
    Wrestling matches and shows going too long is a valid complaint as old as time.

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    @MikeHunt where were you, you dirty old bastard. We were all discussing whether or not you would turn out to be a nice man.

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    I didn't even get to meet Simon

    Edit: also they seem to have mitigated my women's division concerns a bit.... but let's see where this goes

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    Haha yeah I only saw you joined the party after I'd seen everyone! Next time

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    Just started watching the show again and I reckon Matt Riddle's music is the most hype thing in the world. What a man.

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    Does this mean they're no longer looking for a TV deal over here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    @MikeHunt where were you, you dirty old bastard. We were all discussing whether or not you would turn out to be a nice man.
    Sorry for the late reply been on holiday and my phone chucked living two days in so only had limited internet access.

    Firstly my lack of attendance re meet was due to being on the other side of the building and being pished after a full morning boozing on the train. However, we are look at trying to come dow for SSS. Although I am pretty sure I saw Alf and Mik in some posh seats a bit behind me. Secondly I am fucking lovely.

    I thought the show was brilliant, I have zero complaints. Loved every second. The match quality for me grew as the show went on and as I am not a numpty the late finish didnt bother me and I didn't see a single person round me leave or moan. Although Havoc/Robinson was by far my favourite match of the day.

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    You did see them.

    You are ultimately a fanny.

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    Where was your posh seat?

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    The opposite side. Next to the Rajah Crew’s posh seats.

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    Rev Pro Starts on Free Sports on Friday night at 9pm.

    'Justin' Liger is on.

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    Is he like that guy called the Legend of Doom I used to see in leisure centres in the 90's

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    Christ, that's like when WCW brought Ultimo Dragon in and their idiot announcers kept calling him Ultimate Dragon and never seemed to stop.

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    Anyone bought tickets for Unboxing this year?

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    Nice first show, Jushin Liger plus Zabre JR vs Kushida

    Also @Defrost my scouting skills here tell me 'The Destroyer' Great O-Kharn is a future IWGP champion

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    Yeah, quite enjoyed Rev Pro from Friday. Good main event. And nice to have Kevin Kelley on commentary. I’ll be tuning in next week.

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    I read a review of the first RPW show on TV and the only real criticism was that it was TOO star studded as if they won’t be able to keep that up and will end up disappointing people. But my impression is that they have a working relationship with New Japan and probably continue to deliver those sort of big names.
    ..

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    BBC have an article today about the revival of British Wrestling and how Progress has grown over time.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-45875654

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    Good read, that.

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    I went to Progress in Manchester yesterday, got absolutely steaming, sat front row, got dived on by all sorts and had a fucking cracking time. Ridgeway/Devlin had one of the best matches I've seen live. Such a good fun show. Most I've enjoyed wrestling in any form for a long time.
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    ....where you the guy with the double pint that Eddie Dennis finished off?

    I've never seen a man so angry.

    The only reason I'd think it was you is that guy was hammmmmeeerrrrreeeddddd.

    Also, yes, best PROGRESS show in a while. There wasn't particularly a bad match on the card, even if one wasn't.. quite... a ... match...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HHHnFoley_Rulez View Post
    ....where you the guy with the double pint that Eddie Dennis finished off?

    I've never seen a man so angry.

    The only reason I'd think it was you is that guy was hammmmmeeerrrrreeeddddd.

    Also, yes, best PROGRESS show in a while. There wasn't particularly a bad match on the card, even if one wasn't.. quite... a ... match...

    hahhahaha that was my mate Jamie - 6 foot 7. I was sitting beside him. I had literally just sat down with a double pint and was wiped out by Ilja. Front row is expensive business.

    That show was excellent even if I can barely remember any of the main event. First time I've drank properly in ages, but absolutely worth it.
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    My mate went to his first Progress show and had his coat taken off him by Mastiff, who then threw it in his face. I love it.

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    Eddie Dennis also works on the NXT: UK show, right?

    Really weird looking dude. Super tall, but he has buggy whip arms. But he seems like a solid wrestler.

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    anyone going to nxtuk taping this weekend?

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    PROGRESS lads do we know this man

    https://twitter.com/Travis_BanksPW/s...61894804369408

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    That's HHHnFoleyrulez

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    Haskins has signed with ROH.

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    Obviously great for him and if he didn't fancy NXT:UK then fair play to him BUT if they didn't even offer him a deal then I question their wisdom.

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    Made my WWE tv debut on this weeks episodes of NXT UK.

    I am positioned on the right in the back row, mostly obscured by my mates fat heed and the wwe symbol. But you can hear me a fucking lot.

    The el ligro/joe coffee match was my main tv time vocally, can be heard screaming scotland against some english tube shouting yokrshire.

    PM for autographs.

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    Going to Wrestle Gates debut show in Jan, Question is do I meet and greet with Martina for ultimate bantz?

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    Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Griffin View Post
    Going to Wrestle Gates debut show in Jan, Question is do I meet and greet with Martina for ultimate bantz?

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    Aha the card does look good though, Im given to understand they have some working relationship with Ospreay as well which may explain the multiple Japanese/Japan based talents they have coming over.

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    If there's one thing I'm enjoying it seeing the British Wrestling community flip flop between: "OMG THEY'RE GUNNA SHUT DOWN THE UK" to "OMG HOW GOOD IS NXTUK!?" to "OMG CONTRACTS?! KILLING THE UK!" to "OMG NXT:UK TAKEOVER:BLACKPOOL WAS GREAT!"

    What a time to be alive.

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    Well I mean thy have pulled Devlin from Wrestle Gate but hey ho Jake McLuskey is not a bad replacement, Plenty of talent to go around.

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    Got a spare ticket for Progress on Sunday if anyone fancies it.

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    Fuck sake Glen, get some order restored!

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    I have a no contact clause in my contract.

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    Fuck sake Glen, get some order restored!

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    PAC vs Ospreay fucking ruled

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    God damn, go all week without seeing spoilers for PROGRESS on Twitter or Facebook or whatever.. and then BAM.. on the main rajah news page.

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    Watched NXT Uk today and it was Walter Vs Cassius Ohno. It produced imagery of two fat drunk uncles wrestling on Christmas morning. Bravo!

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    I decided to check out some bits and pieces from NXT and NXT UK last night and Ohno and Walter was one of the matches I watched. Yeah, wasn't up to much. That's the first time I've seen Walter.

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    Seeing as his bones are made of glass, Lykos has announced his retirement.

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    I do feel sorry for the guy, stupid thing about wrestling is you can do all these batshit crazy moves / matches and be fine - and some of his injuries have been innocuous "accidents" or missteps. Doesn't seem fair, really.

    But.. he's 22 (christ) and has his life ahead of him, and I'm sure he can be used elsewhere in wrestling companies. He could probably just manage the various incarnations of CCK / CTK / whatever

    Sucks to have your dream job taken away so young, though.

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    Can't work it right on my phone but...
    https://twitter.com/ThisIs_Progress/...523245057?s=09

    Jimmy Havoc's last match in PROGRESS is day 3 of Super Strong Style 16.

    Truly is an end of an era.

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    WALTER vs Dunne part 2 in Glasgow tonight. I am jumping!!!

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    Super Strong Style has been good... a few matches I haven't particularly enjoyed but.. ya know...

    Last day today which means last Jimmy match and, if a certain someone doesn't win, more mean Cagematch reviews.

    Wrrrrrrrestling.


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    So y'all know Candy Floss? In case you didn't know, she recently lost her mother. There's a gofundme for the funeral costs.

    https://www.gofundme.com/raisingmoneyforfloss

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    Sign Candy Floss and Martina from the tryouts, Cheers WWE.

    (Was there not a NXT:UK thread? Fucked if I can see it)

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    You will smell your last flower, you will hug your friend for the last time. You might not know it's the last time, that's why you must do everything you love with passion” #Afterlife @Rickygervais


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    Aye that is a sickener. Didnt know him really at all apart from a few brief hellos but know a lot of his closest friends and its a heart breaker seeing them all so cut up over this. What a shame man, another young, talented, bright and loved human being gone far far too early.

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    Really thought Moustache Mountain were going to win the titles yesterday. Imperium are real a-holes.

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    There isn't a General Ramble thread, so I figured I'd post this here. Pac being Pac.

    https://twitter.com/BASTARDPAC/statu...14177167167488

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    Defiant/WCPW is finished if anyone gives a shit

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    Jim Smallman is leaving PROGRESS

    Last show is December 30th.

    Obviously he's not the main attraction for shows but I've always enjoyed his announcing and bits in between matches. He seems like a genuinely nice person, I know I'd not be able to put up with the queue of people trying to talk to him at intervals etc. Not sure how they'll replace him, certainly not like-for-like (sorry Glen.. or Matt Richards.. or Kid Lykos..) but I imagine they have a plan.

    Sounds like he's still going to do his WWE UK stuff, so that's good, just wants more time for him and his family so... fair play to him.

    It also means I probably want to go to the Dec 30th show more than I did before now... which is bad because.. I'm probably not going to be able to...

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    Brit Wres is dead fellas.

    I think there are some very moronic 'fans' out there. From what I can tell this came about due to Defiant closing up and the fact WWE is 'killing' the scene.

    Defiant was not some long standing staple of the scene, They were some chancers from WC with a lot of cash behind them. And if you are saying WWE are killing the scene choosing WC/Defiant as the moral hill to die on is mental.

    I know for a fact when they started up and ran some shows in Notts (Where SS, HOPE and HOP were already running) they offered Dunne more cash to cancel a date he was already booked with HOPE to wrestle on their show and no doubt that was standard practice for them initially.

    Guess what i'm saying is fuck those cunts.

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    So Bodom huh?

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    any news on that revpro ref that got destroyed?

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    What is wrong with people ffs

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    Not ... sure... what... the ... issue......... is?

    Edit: and that's not me being "pro-PROGRESS" or a fan boy or whatever.. I genuinely don't understand why a company can't make a profit and also ask for help when times are tough.

    We saying we can't reward anyone for success anymore?

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    The last time I saw Glen he bought an XL meal from Burger King even though, in his own words, "I'm not even that hungry". Says it all.

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    That changes everything. Disgraceful.

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    Glen once bought a drink after a wrestling event and walked away with the change. When the barmaid called him back to give it to her, he said 'you keep it, looks like you need it'. Then he spat at her shoes.

    Vile man.

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    i mark out just seeing glen's name in an article

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    What does everyone make of the rumour that Glen has a diamond-encrusted copy of The Triumph of the Will?

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    He's pretty stingy when it comes to Secret Santas too...or so I've heard.

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    Glad somebody got to CJ banks in time. I was getting increasingly worried about his very erratic tweets, seemed manic.

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    Wow, David Starr has really opened a massive can of worms as regards brit wrestling and just how many nonces and predators there appears to be, Never mind WWE killing the scene, There will be no fucker left at this rate.

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    Sebastian was right.

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    Kid Fite defo looking a bit noncey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wardy View Post
    Kid Fite defo looking a bit noncey.
    Using young talent he's trained as attack dogs and a shield. Fucking lord, what a cunt.

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    Probably good that WWE has someone else as CW Champ right now, Devlin's been accused...
    https://www.gerweck.net/2020/06/18/n...ed-of-assault/

    Ligero's also been accused:
    https://www.gerweck.net/2020/06/18/w...al-harassment/

    Jimmy Havoc's been accused of physical/mental abuse:
    https://www.gerweck.net/2020/06/18/j...-relationship/

    Piper Niven's also been Tweeting about this stuff a bit, retweeting this:

    and Tweeted:
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    I feel like we are all just waiting for someone else to go first.
    I’m scared too, I see you and I love you.
    Last edited by mth; June 18th, 2020 at 8:14 PM.

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    So, British Wrestling is a fucking cesspool. What the fuck?

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    I know of a lot of jackass type wrestlers but man I hate the Ligero.

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    The Jimmy Havoc accusations, fucking hell.

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    I'm seeing substantial lists of names coming out. Shit's hitting the fan.

    https://twitter.com/pwtruthproject

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    This might not be British, but Jim Cornette being a cuck, I just, jhtejpgqjkojkenbokenoknrjeb.
    Last edited by JP; June 18th, 2020 at 9:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post
    I'm seeing substantial lists of names coming out. Shit's hitting the fan.

    https://twitter.com/pwtruthproject
    The problem with this list is the variables in what acts were commited... You've got Starr, Del Rio, Ligero etc who have been accused of predatory behaviour or sexusl assault then there are others accused of much lesser things. Obviously non of it is OK, But at the same time you can't go lumping rapists and nonces in with some of the other stuff.

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    Jimmy Havoc seems like the sort of guy who lives his gimmick.

    Total fucking scumbag.

    No big surprise there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP View Post
    This might not be British, but Jim Cornette being a cuck, I just, jhtejpgqjkojkenbokenoknrjeb.
    What'd Jimmy do this time?

    Only thing I've seen him do is bitch about The Orange Goblin and Mitch McDonald.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudz Mackenzie View Post
    What'd Jimmy do this time?

    Only thing I've seen him do is bitch about The Orange Goblin and Mitch McDonald.
    https://twitter.com/AKI_Evolution/st...55945466806278

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    Yeah... all that sounds like bullshit.

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    Joey Ryan is on the big list of assholes.

    The guy who makes a living having people grab his dick and do tricks with it is some kind of sexual harasser/abuser?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudz Mackenzie View Post
    Jimmy Havoc seems like the sort of guy who lives his gimmick.

    Total fucking scumbag.

    No big surprise there.
    Anything in particular here? @JP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rosk View Post
    Anything in particular here? @JP?
    The emotional manipulation on show is textbook. Control and abuse through fear and displaced responsibility, I've seen it happen to friends more times than I'm happy to recall. Hell, I've excused it in much the same way, that's it's not them, they're going through a tough time etc. That is actually the worst part of this kind of abuse, there's almost always truth to that, they are struggling and it's at least a small aberration from who they "normally" are, so there's an element of guilt in standing up to it and makes it all the more difficult to do so.

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    edit - will leave this, too difficult.

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    I believe her statement. That's not to say there's not more to it, or that abuse can't be circular, or that it's framed in a way to emphasise his behaviour and lessen hers. But the details in there, to be honest, they were a little bit triggering when I read them last night. So much in there I've seen before, the specifics of actions and how it gets directed.

    I agree that the accusations against Havoc are nowhere near as severe as they are against other people. I saw that list doing the rounds, it's tabloidy and unhelpful. But it's the one I read last night that hit me in the stomach, hard.

    Just saw the Alex Shane accusation. It's about as awful as it can get.

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    Oh shit, Just seen Glen's name mentioned by Drilla Maloney.

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    In what context?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romford Pele View Post
    In what context?
    https://twitter.com/drillamoloney/status/1273977291094347776

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    Yikes. Shit just got real.

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