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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    Go straight in. I only ran one. And it was Punch Out themed. When you enjoy what you’re writing about it makes it easier to add flavour.
    Seconded. Metal Gear Solid wasn't a huge success, but I had fun writing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrod1983 View Post
    Question for game runners, do you ever make up powers or win conditions or even roles to suit a story or your liking on what you think would be fun or do you adhere to mostly traditional set ups people or other sites use or that you've read about on a site like wiki?
    I make shit up all the time. If it fits the narrative and doesn't ruin game balance, do whatever really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrod1983 View Post
    Question for game runners, do you ever make up powers or win conditions or even roles to suit a story or your liking on what you think would be fun or do you adhere to mostly traditional set ups people or other sites use or that you've read about on a site like wiki?
    I've created roles called Reviver and Soul Thief. The Reviver has worked well in both games it's been applied, the Soul Thief had the potential to break the game but the scum got trigger shy (randomly enough, I'd made them far too strong, but that strength got them thinking in too many ways).

    Go crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP View Post
    I've created roles called Reviver and Soul Thief. The Reviver has worked well in both games it's been applied, the Soul Thief had the potential to break the game but the scum got trigger shy (randomly enough, I'd made them far too strong, but that strength got them thinking in too many ways).

    Go crazy.
    I wish I had my notes so I could go and look at some of the shit I have used. I could go look at the archived threads but meh.

    Making shit up is fun.

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    If I get a call this week and am turned down for a job, I'll be starting my rewatch of The Wire in prep for Season 1 of GriMafia Wire.

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    So, The Wire is coming together slowly... but I don't know if we have 23 people. I can probably trim it down to 18-20 if needed.

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    If some dickhead had an Avengers game ready to go...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    So, The Wire is coming together slowly... but I don't know if we have 23 people. I can probably trim it down to 18-20 if needed.
    sounds lovely

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP View Post
    If some dickhead had an Avengers game ready to go...
    *snaps fingers*

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    I got three weeks holiday off work and in a better state of mind than when Grim’s game started so a good mafia game soon wouldn’t go amiss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    If I get a call this week and am turned down for a job, I'll be starting my rewatch of The Wire in prep for Season 1 of GriMafia Wire.
    So, this won't happen for a bit. I did get a call and I did get turned down for the job but they were so impressed, they are working with HR to create a job just for me. What a wild ride that phone call was.

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    Congrats bab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP View Post
    Congrats bab.
    Except they've now withdrawn the offer. FFS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    Except they've now withdrawn the offer. FFS
    Sorry to hear that man, very shit of them.

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    The upside is I will get to work on my rewatch and season 1 should start here in the next week or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    The upside is I will get to work on my rewatch and season 1 should start here in the next week or two.
    Cool. I'll be around this time. Been getting the itch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    The upside is I will get to work on my rewatch and season 1 should start here in the next week or two.
    looking forward to it. I have passed on the last several mafias but won't resist The Wire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    looking forward to it. I have passed on the last several mafias but won't resist The Wire.
    I look forward to the walk in the garden.

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    I'm getting the itch. Any games on the horizon anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    I'm getting the itch.
    They make a cream for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWE View Post
    They make a cream for that.
    Neutrogina's no fixing it.

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    I would run something, but I won't really have time during the semester. I know JP has Avengers in his pocket if Grim isn't ready with The Wire...

    I have intentions for TMNT III during the Christmas break, though

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    I'm keen to run one but I've just got crazy mental block. The last game felt so shit by my usual standards and with the massive rut I'm in after getting made redundant, I'm just struggling for motivation.

    I've got 23 roles roughly sorted but really want to get through a rewatch to (Mc)Nut(ty) out the details. That 23 can be condensed into maybe 18 roles with some roles combined but yeah, my brain is fried trying to write it up.

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    I could run a mini game but probably not until next week.

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    Finally..

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    Semester's over after this week and I only have one final I'm concerned about next week. So soonish I'll be posting the sign-up for TMNT III.

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    Any games planned soon? Now I'm getting that itch that Badger had.

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    Still got that itch, not got rid of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    I'm keen to run one but I've just got crazy mental block. The last game felt so shit by my usual standards and with the massive rut I'm in after getting made redundant, I'm just struggling for motivation.

    I've got 23 roles roughly sorted but really want to get through a rewatch to (Mc)Nut(ty) out the details. That 23 can be condensed into maybe 18 roles with some roles combined but yeah, my brain is fried trying to write it up.
    Still keen to do this but work hours are terribad at the moment.

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    I am going to try something different with my next game. It will be interesting to see how everyone plays when everybody knows your name.

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    Nooooorm!

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    What's the next game after cheers? I haven't played in forever but I could get down if the subject material was something I was familiar with.

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    I'm plotting TMNT III next, and it'll ideally be a bigger game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordo View Post
    What's the next game after cheers? I haven't played in forever but I could get down if the subject material was something I was familiar with.
    In the mean time you should watch Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kneeneighbor View Post
    In the mean time you should watch Cheers.
    It's on my list.

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    Should be your whole list

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    I watched like 3 Cheers videos on YouTube, and now my entirely suggested list is basically that.

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    Been a fan of Cheers for years. Sam and Diane were like the one of the first on-off couples on TV though I feel they pushed it a bit with Diane constantly rejecting his proposals. Also the Sam/Rebecca baby angle, the less said about that the better.

    Harry the Hat was a fucking great character though and only learned recently he died. If anyone gets a chance who is not familiar, look up his scenes on YouTube. He helped Coach and killed Gary’s bar once and for all. Only recently learned the actor died.

    Also suggested a Brooklyn 99 game in the past and would personally love to see that. Nowhere near experienced enough to write it up myself so hopefully someone more experienced takes that up on board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    I'm plotting TMNT III next, and it'll ideally be a bigger game
    Lets do it

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    Wanna go through a few more of these and then try my hand at running a small game.

    I had some thoughts on an Archer one that I thought could be fun.

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    Breadcrumbing sucks.

    Why should people who know the flavour of the game (street fighter, wwe, GOT, star wars, etc) have an advantage over people who don't?

    Level playing field. Flavour for fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP View Post
    Breadcrumbing sucks.

    Why should people who know the flavour of the game (street fighter, wwe, GOT, star wars, etc) have an advantage over people who don't?

    Level playing field. Flavour for fun.
    Is this a hint at your new game, or are you giving Mazer tips?

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    No tips, just a general opinion.

    My next game will be SFvMK. I just need to work out how the hell it's going to work.

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    Mafia Universe Championship is coming up soon. Communities haven't been picked yet officially, but I was asked about whether we were still active and would be interested in participating.

    Anyone here fancy giving it a go? Forewarning that the style of play is very different, the post volume is high, and it looks the setup this year will be a variation of Mountainous(all vanilla roles with mafia having one kill a night).

    I'm willing to step up again if no one else is, but I'd love for someone else to give it a shot while I act as backup if you can't commit/change your mind.

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    When is it?

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    I think they're still nailing down the actual dates, but the changes this year are meant to make things a little shorter. Usually qualifiers are held some between April and July, where you will get to choose what time frame will be best for you, as well as phase setup and whatnot. The semifinals usually go through July, and if you make it to the Final, that tends to happen in August. Again, there are attempts to make this go by faster, but no promises on how that plays out at this point.

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    I fell down a bit of an internet rabbit hole when I decided to look up mafiascum.net. Led me to other looking at internet games, and settled into the whole old school text computer games..... legit thinking of downloading a couple of them. Something about that style of trying to figure things out less visually, but with more logic and reasoning seems very appealing to me right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP View Post
    Breadcrumbing sucks.

    Why should people who know the flavour of the game (street fighter, wwe, GOT, star wars, etc) have an advantage over people who don't?

    Level playing field. Flavour for fun.
    I fucking love Breadcrumbing. Granted, I try to only play games where I know the subject material. I only do it in super subtle ways. When I was a bus driver I just used a lot of words like swap and switch early on. Just subtle shit. It's fun for me to try and be clever and leave hints.

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    breadcrumbing sucks because if successful it alters and ruins the integrity and balance of the game. roleclaiming is illegal because it ruins the game, so why would we allow it on a "subtle" level?

    if anyone picks up on your breadcrumb, you should be modkilled. thus there should be no reason to even do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    breadcrumbing sucks because if successful it alters and ruins the integrity and balance of the game. roleclaiming is illegal because it ruins the game, so why would we allow it on a "subtle" level?

    if anyone picks up on your breadcrumb, you should be modkilled. thus there should be no reason to even do it.
    I mean I wasn't necessarily arguing we should allow it, probably didn't make that clear enough. I do believe it was allowed when I did it last. If I remember right the south park game was the one wer eit really became a problem. I didn't do anything in tmnt because it's been explicitly called a rule break now.

    I did ask in the Mason chat if I could encourage Pablo to breadcrumb when he was poisoned and was told no lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP View Post
    Breadcrumbing sucks.

    Why should people who know the flavour of the game (street fighter, wwe, GOT, star wars, etc) have an advantage over people who don't?

    Level playing field. Flavour for fun.
    Or talking when silenced

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    I didn't.

    Voting and inviting were exempt, pictures didn't count.

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    In a language you might understand then:





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    JP, you championed "I'm not touching you" as a child didn't you old friend?

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    Yeah, I'm here for a minute, hopefully a bit longer, been trying to browse. How've you lot been?

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    How's things treating you bro?

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    Holy shit. If we can just get Dees to come back and Cewsh to join us for a bad gimmick for his role and Mr_Nobody to run the thing, we are golden.

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    What about skillshot?

    Woof woof motherfucker...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWE View Post
    How's things treating you bro?
    Over all? Not too bad, you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Doc View Post
    Over all? Not too bad, you?



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Doc View Post
    Over all? Not too bad, you?
    Holy shit, Doc! I'm so glad you're alive.

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    Yeah, I'm still kicking. Glad to see you are too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Doc View Post
    Yeah, I'm here for a minute, hopefully a bit longer, been trying to browse. How've you lot been?


    Hey bud

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stan Accy View Post
    In a language you might understand then:






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    Quote Originally Posted by The Doc View Post
    JP, you championed "I'm not touching you" as a child didn't you old friend?
    I never hit people, they always hit themselves.

    Stick around, play a game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWE View Post
    What about skillshot?

    Woof woof motherfucker...
    Ahahahahahaha! I had completely forgotten about that.



    I am a dog.

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    Been a really enjoyable glut of Mafia Games. Going to take a break for a while though participating in any new games with my health issues.

    May not have been the smartest player but it’s been a blast.

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    Probably already been done but I would love to run a Simpsons game one day, once I've got a lot more experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wardy View Post
    Probably already been done but I would love to run a Simpsons game one day, once I've got a lot more experience.
    Been talked about, but hasn't actually been executed yet. Would love to see the attempt, though! So many characters to pull from.

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    I have a couple ideas for a future one. I think my next one will be smaller and a little more simple, but with a bit of a twist. I pretty much have that one worked out in my head.

    But I'd like someone else to step up for the next game first. Mostly so I can play.

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    There really hasn't been a Simpsons one? I just assumed it was either before my time or during one of my many gaps long and short. I took a youtube crash course on Game of Thrones, did okay in that game as I recall, and we haven't covered the basics?

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    I'd love to run another game, but I just don't have the time until the end of the school year.

    I think about the time I put into some of the games I've run and it's a little bit silly. That game where there were two games running simultaneously, and both influenced the other, that ate up my time like me eating kebabs.

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    Wish I was playing for that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP View Post
    I'd love to run another game, but I just don't have the time until the end of the school year.

    I think about the time I put into some of the games I've run and it's a little bit silly. That game where there were two games running simultaneously, and both influenced the other, that ate up my time like me eating kebabs.
    School? I thought the God Kings cancelled school worldwide so everybody could drink bad beer and get the runs? Isn't that why I just did a moonsault off a pile of Monster into an old lady for some 2 ply?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Doc View Post
    School? I thought the God Kings cancelled school worldwide so everybody could drink bad beer and get the runs? Isn't that why I just did a moonsault off a pile of Monster into an old lady for some 2 ply?
    If JP is anything like me, he is doing a degree or diploma online via cloud campus. Mine started last week but given the clusterfuck of planet earth at the moment and the 5 interviews I have had, I completely forgot. I've got a bit to catch up on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    If JP is anything like me, he is doing a degree or diploma online via cloud campus. Mine started last week but given the clusterfuck of planet earth at the moment and the 5 interviews I have had, I completely forgot. I've got a bit to catch up on
    Going to uni, but very much in person. The UK hasn't closed schools, colleges or universities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP View Post
    Going to uni, but very much in person. The UK hasn't closed schools, colleges or universities.
    Neither have we.... which feels like complete and utter madness. Even though I am cloud, the uni still has classes and they have announced they will be moving to online delivery ASAP. Not because they have been told to just because it seems to be the responsible thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    Neither have we.... which feels like complete and utter madness. Even though I am cloud, the uni still has classes and they have announced they will be moving to online delivery ASAP. Not because they have been told to just because it seems to be the responsible thing.
    While we haven't closed educational institutions, we have today announced a plan that will keep the over-70's socially isolated for a few months.

    Please keep in mind that the health and safety of others, including loved ones of mine, is by far and away the bigger concern than the quick moan I'm about to have.

    That plan has absolutely destroyed the end of year project I've been working on for months now. Just, ripped it apart. I'm making a fictional short film based around a man who's recently been diagnosed with Alzhemier's. A Talking Heads style monologue to camera, shot in one of our television studios, white background and bright lighting, basic three camera set up. My actor, my brilliant uncle, who used to be an actor (and a politician, and a charity fundraiser, and a preacher, and my God that man has had a life). He's 76. The meeting with my lecturer to agree on my final plans? That's tomorrow, the day after the plan has been announced. I haven't sent my script to my uncle yet as everything needed to be approved as a go first and I didn't want to potentially confuse him by sending him multiple scripts. Now, we're going to have to work out tomorrow how best to salvage this, as two weeks (when they think they'll implement this) isn't long enough for me to book out the studios, forget about a capable crew, even if my uncle were able to memorise the script in time.

    So, now, I've got to rescript the script that I'd only just finished scripting, work out how and where I'm going to shoot this, all while making sure I don't drift too far away from the base idea which has already been agreed upon.

    As it happens, I guessed this, or something similar, might happen, so I've got some contingencies lined up. It's just the time I know it's going to take me. It ain't small. And they have to be agreed to. If they're not, I hope she has some good suggestions for me.

    Ah well, cest la vie.

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    Really want to try to run one of these games some day. I was thinking a wrestling theme would be easy enough to start out with.

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    Now, uni is off because personal tutor is self-isolating.

    Meaning I have a bit of time...

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    I think most of us might have a bit of spare time.

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    Right, posting a new game shortly. It's going to be very, very topical.

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    Have we done an Ozark mafia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kneeneighbor View Post
    Have we done an Ozark mafia?
    The jason bateman show? For sure not. I love that show but I don’t know how many people watch or how many memorable characters there are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    The jason bateman show? For sure not. I love that show but I don’t know how many people watch or how many memorable characters there are.
    Oh yee of little faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kneeneighbor View Post
    Oh yee of little faith.

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    I’m in, I mean it’s one of my favorite shows going and you could time it with season 3 coming out, I just don’t know how much theme appreciation it would get because I feel like it’s not widely viewed (yet).

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    Hopefully I'll find out tomorrow that I'll be working from home for a few months and can get a GriMafia Productions game up and running in the next week or two.

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    I started workshopping a mafia game. Too early in my run for me to run one. But this is the first time in years, I haven't traveled for a month, I have no kids doing sports, and I find myself with much more time than I'm accustomed to. Even if I don't run one now, it would be fun to have one in pocket.


    Anybody who's run a game or two willing to give it a look over, after I get some more things filled in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    I started workshopping a mafia game. Too early in my run for me to run one. But this is the first time in years, I haven't traveled for a month, I have no kids doing sports, and I find myself with much more time than I'm accustomed to. Even if I don't run one now, it would be fun to have one in pocket.


    Anybody who's run a game or two willing to give it a look over, after I get some more things filled in?
    Nice!

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    Need way more experience before I ever try this but Father Ted Mafia may be worth a shout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    This post from Grim has a good bar to start with.

    https://forums.rajah.com/showthread....=1#post7656673

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    I did not follow the suggestion to keep it to mostly vanillas for my first game.
    Quote Originally Posted by JP View Post
    I think Street Fighter was my first game, so that mostly vanilla thing is pants.

    What was me making an Avengers game has morphed into something more generally superheroish, all down to me wanting flavour and roles to fit well.

    As always seems to be the case with me, the scum roles look particularly tasty.
    I was trying to find the post Psycho linked to point Mazer towards and saw both of these posts... it's true, we never fuck about with vanilla here. I am trying to think of any truly vanilla ones we have done. One cop, one doc, a a godfather, maybe one role block and the rest powerless nobodies? There's a reason why we don't do them too because if you are the chump without a role, you don't feel like it's worth being involved, you don't participate as much (if at all) and the games are generally boring as fuck.


    Alternating night roles, roles with offsetting effectiveness (e.g. ON Paranoid Cop, EN normal cop) or X-shot roles help with that, as well as having back ups, even if slightly less effective, for the big power roles.


    And Badger - you have been playing for years. Just jump in. If it's shit, it's shit. If it never exists, it's even shitter.

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    Oksy I'll see what I can do at some point.

    On the mend at the moment, but when better.

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    There was the Vanillatown Mafia game I did where everyone was forced to be Vanilla. I don't think anyone other than scum liked that game lol.

    I'll back up what Grim said about, "If it's shit it's shit." From a mechanical standpoint, my first game was pretty trash. But people had fun anyway. As long as you're always thinking about what would be too unfair for either side, you'll come out with something that people will enjoy and have little to bitch about.

    The main key is keeping the roles together and not fucking up sending information or naming the wrong people or anything like that.

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    Thanks, will keep that in mind.

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