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    So since Mafia is alive again would there be any interest in a Venari game?

    I’ve got one bubbling away that I think could be a cheerful little jaunt

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    My first run has been good fun, I'd be up for a second go.

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    In.

    I have no idea what a Venauri is other than a thing in a game I don't play but

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotre View Post
    In.

    I have no idea what a Venauri is other than a thing in a game I don't play but
    For starters, don’t believe this lying fuck. Venari games are built to mentally scar you.

    I’m in though. It’d be nice to play instead of run the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    For starters, don’t believe this lying fuck. Venari games are built to mentally scar you.
    I was talking about this thing in Warframe, a game I don't play and never have. I still have no idea what the heck makes a Venari different from any other kind of Mafia game.

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    It’s generally regular mafia, though he usually toys with the roles and mechanics, all drenched in layers of dread.

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    I'll be terrible at it but I'll play

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    I'm in though.

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    Don’t believe a word of it, Venari games are full of sweetness and light, with clear roles and absolutely no mind games from the game runner at all.

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    I'd for sure play as well.

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    It stopped the whole "RIP is still alive after day 3 he must be mafia otherwise they would have killed him by now."

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    I'm down for Venari.

    Where the fuck is Grim?

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    Also, Seinfeld: A Mafia Game About Nothing is still in the works.

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    Someone do a wrestling one

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    Mooooooooore mafiiiaaaaaaaaa

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot View Post
    I'm down for Venari.

    Where the fuck is Grim?
    Around.

    The nights are darkest in winter, cold, crisp.

    Instinctively we huddle together for warmth.

    It’s not always a good idea to get too close though.

    Venari is coming...

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    Oh man. I loves my mafia, but Venari just fucks with my head.

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    JP, I'm still waiting on MK Mafia and the SF/MK Crossover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    JP, I'm still waiting on MK Mafia and the SF/MK Crossover.


    Yeah, left SF on the cliffhanger didn't I?

    I might revisit that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    JP, I'm still waiting on MK Mafia and the SF/MK Crossover.
    https://forums.rajah.com/showthread....street+fighter

    I'm reading back through it now and I wanna jump back in. There's some semi-decent, not entirely unfunny writing there.

    Hmmmmmmmmm...

    *new document*

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    Right, so, lads...

    Psycho posted this two hours ago,

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    JP, I'm still waiting on MK Mafia and the SF/MK Crossover.
    In those two hours I might have come up with a story arc, characters, full town, scum and neutral list and even a story introduction.

    When something gets in between my teeth...

    Question is when. Venari has classically been a smaller game but I don't know what Rip has planned (apart from fucking with brains, there will be definite fucking with brains) in terms of size or even when. Then we have the question of interest. I've come up with 20 roles, and while I can do less (or more) I wouldn't want to start the ball rolling unless there was interest from you guys to play so soon after we've finished the last game.

    Anybody thinking what kind of game it would be, have a look through the Street Fighter game. https://forums.rajah.com/showthread....street+fighter This would be a direct story follow up to that game, but also similar thematically. The roles I have lined up include some we've never had here before, and, two of them especially, I cannot wait to try out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rip View Post
    Around.

    The nights are darkest in winter, cold, crisp.

    Instinctively we huddle together for warmth.

    It’s not always a good idea to get too close though.

    Venari is coming...
    Yeah great but it's summer in Australia so this doesn't make any sense.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Oh right. Rip and his Venari bullshit.

    - - - Updated - - -

    When's it start?

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    Run with it JP. Strike while the iron is hot.

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    Yeah, I say if Rip isn't ready, go ahead and run it, JP. I'm just itching to play instead of run.

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    I'm very down for another game

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    So that clears up if there's interest.

    Only thing is if Rip is ready to run the game it'd be rude of me to jump in. I'll set up the thread in a bit along with a couple of intros, but if Rip is ready then I'll just leave it there as a placeholder while he runs Venari.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    You heard the man @HHHnFoley_Rulez
    I just had a recollection of making one of those super complicated where I had 3 vanilla neutrals who could be made General Manager by Vince.......

    ...except I think I had Steve Austin have a vote phase role where he could come out and try and stunner Vince... and I think he either hit him first phase or second... sort of giving the middle finger to the game..

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    I've got a few overly complicated ideas in mind for Mafia games. I'd need to play a few more before even thinking about bringing them into reality though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP View Post


    So that clears up if there's interest.

    Only thing is if Rip is ready to run the game it'd be rude of me to jump in. I'll set up the thread in a bit along with a couple of intros, but if Rip is ready then I'll just leave it there as a placeholder while he runs Venari.
    Let’s do both.

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    The best thing about a JP or Rip mafia games means JP and Rip don't fill up 20 pages of non sense babble about how each other are acting weird the 1st day

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    Just gonna check who won the last game...oh yeah.

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    You are acting very strange here jp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotre View Post
    I've got a few overly complicated ideas in mind for Mafia games. I'd need to play a few more before even thinking about bringing them into reality though.
    Further to this, I think I'd like to run a game after the MK and Venari are done. I'd probably do it with a mentor/co-runner/consultant to make sure I don't go full bullshit but I'd do the actual work of running the game. It'd probably be Psycho because I've already told him some of my plans already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virmicious View Post
    The best thing about a JP or Rip mafia games means JP and Rip don't fill up 20 pages of non sense babble about how each other are acting weird the 1st day
    It’s not me, it’s him I’m just going about my little way and all of a sudden this bloody brum bully starts picking on me for no reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotre View Post
    Further to this, I think I'd like to run a game after the MK and Venari are done. I'd probably do it with a mentor/co-runner/consultant to make sure I don't go full bullshit but I'd do the actual work of running the game. It'd probably be Psycho because I've already told him some of my plans already.
    As the person who carried the Mafia mantle here for so long, happy to mentor. I sense a Grimario Rajah comeback in 2019 now I am unemployed so happy to ease my way in with something like this.

    And overly complicated was my forte. I wonder if I still have my mafia spreadsheets from all those years ago...

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    If you've got the time bab there's a game waiting for one more person to join...

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    Kotre, Grim would probably be your best guide as far as putting a game together, especially with complex ideas. I'll still give my pointers where I can, though, and would be happy to help co-run if necessary

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    Interested in seeing who is willing to test another game from me. Might do a Newsies game, but this is just after a brainstorming session with nothing concrete yet. Just using my love of musical theatre.

    That or Nat/Pierre

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    Jeebus. I was looking through some of my old games... there was some pretty dark shit in there.

    Plane Crash - https://forums.rajah.com/showthread.php?t=147376
    One by one, they come to the stark realisation that he is right. There is no other way.

    They must eat human flesh.

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    There was also some excellent stuff in there.

    Like the wtf Teddy Bear's Picnic https://forums.rajah.com/showthread.php?t=149612

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    A Very Beardy Mafia was amazing. https://forums.rajah.com/showthread.php?t=148395

    I think that was probably my favourite one I have ever done. Except all the SW ones where virm got screwed over.

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    I'd like to run a game at some point in 2019. Probably not anytime soon (Spring at the earliest). I don't have a theme in mind yet. Maybe Breaking Bad but I struggle with what Walter White's win condition would be.

    Maybe something lighter like Super Smash Bros

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    When's the next game lads?

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    Seinfeld sounds fun. Smash Bros. too. I'd love to see a game based on The Office. I just got Clue: The Office and have been having fun playing that with my kids.

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    I disagree with how @JP and @Psycho666Soldier are structuring the day/night phases. The things that happen in the night phase are being posted as "Day X". I always think of it as the day phase is when lynches happen and the night phase is when action roles happen. Like if someone has an odd night role that should show up in a Night 1 write up, not a Day 2 write up. It gets confusing when determining who has ON/EN roles.

    Doesn't really matter just pointing it out.

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    The odd night even night thing confused the life out of me and made me think there was a JOAT as well as Alex who was an EN/ON inventor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    I disagree with how @JP and @Psycho666Soldier are structuring the day/night phases. The things that happen in the night phase are being posted as "Day X". I always think of it as the day phase is when lynches happen and the night phase is when action roles happen. Like if someone has an odd night role that should show up in a Night 1 write up, not a Day 2 write up. It gets confusing when determining who has ON/EN roles.

    Doesn't really matter just pointing it out.
    Only reason I post it that way is because that's how Mr Nobody did it when he first brought mafia here(or brought it back? Whatever it was). I was thinking throughout this game that going forward I'll probably do it so the night phase write-up has "Night X" instead of "Day X". Only real reason I think it's done is because the night write-up is the introduction for the next day phase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    Only reason I post it that way is because that's how Mr Nobody did it when he first brought mafia here(or brought it back? Whatever it was). I was thinking throughout this game that going forward I'll probably do it so the night phase write-up has "Night X" instead of "Day X". Only real reason I think it's done is because the night write-up is the introduction for the next day phase.


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    Both your guys games are good, different styles but I like them.

    Who's the most experienced Mafia guy on here still active?

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    Psycho probably, he plays as our representative on a ‘proper’ Mafia website

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    Quote Originally Posted by wardy View Post
    The odd night even night thing confused the life out of me and made me think there was a JOAT as well as Alex who was an EN/ON inventor.
    You've been playing this year's haven't you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rip View Post
    Psycho probably, he plays as our representative on a ‘proper’ Mafia website
    Cool. What's the name of the site?

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    Mafia Universe. They hold a yearly tournament. Made it to the finals with one of my blinder scum games. Downside is as a finalist, I get the unenviable honor of being a judge this year.

    I think Mr Nobody would probably beat me out since he brought the mafia phenomenon here and seemed to play for some time before that. Other than him, though, I think Grim and I are the only ones who have played outside these forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    Mafia Universe. They hold a yearly tournament. Made it to the finals with one of my blinder scum games. Downside is as a finalist, I get the unenviable honor of being a judge this year.

    I think Mr Nobody would probably beat me out since he brought the mafia phenomenon here and seemed to play for some time before that. Other than him, though, I think Grim and I are the only ones who have played outside these forums.
    Niiuce. Playing scum is so much fun though I've only been scum once. Got to the final 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    Mafia Universe. They hold a yearly tournament. Made it to the finals with one of my blinder scum games. Downside is as a finalist, I get the unenviable honor of being a judge this year.

    I think Mr Nobody would probably beat me out since he brought the mafia phenomenon here and seemed to play for some time before that. Other than him, though, I think Grim and I are the only ones who have played outside these forums.
    I have only tried playing outside here a few times and that was way back. We do things so differently here... the role claiming and bread crumbing stuff is part of the game elsewhere. Day 1 is pretty much everyone openly claiming to be one of the roles and the huge amount of D1 generated discussion is between players who have claimed to be the same role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    I have only tried playing outside here a few times and that was way back. We do things so differently here... the role claiming and bread crumbing stuff is part of the game elsewhere. Day 1 is pretty much everyone openly claiming to be one of the roles and the huge amount of D1 generated discussion is between players who have claimed to be the same role.
    Sounds like a complete clusterfuck. I would imagine a lot of bloodshed after D1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    I have only tried playing outside here a few times and that was way back. We do things so differently here... the role claiming and bread crumbing stuff is part of the game elsewhere. Day 1 is pretty much everyone openly claiming to be one of the roles and the huge amount of D1 generated discussion is between players who have claimed to be the same role.
    Yeah, MU is kind of the same way. They seem a little bit better in the sense that they mostly don't claim until they absolutely have to, since you still don't want to out power roles, but they also don't have night write-ups, so the entire culture is different. I played on a couple other forums, and I think it's fun to see what different places consider standard. But ultimately, the Rajah style is where I feel most at home: No roleclaiming, little to no breadcrumbing, write-ups catering to spreadsheets. The only thing I've seen in other forums that I like is a hammer vote not being a necessity, but I can understand reasons for it being prominent here.

    But I'm gonna make you fuckers play a game without mandatory hammers. Just you wait.

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    How would a hammer vote not be needed?

    With everyone role claiming I agree it would be a clusterfuck. I mean if you’re scum and you fake role claim then the person who is actually that role would know you’re scum, So then roleclaiming would favor town heavily right?

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    Vanilla scum claims cop. Real cop counter claims. Town then Lynch the cop. Sure that scum dies day 2 but his teammates can back the real cop getting cover for later and they still killed the cop on day 1. I could see how scum could get an advantage even if it's small.

    No role claiming in games with a jester though. Too easy of a win.

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    Or fake cop gets lynched instead, could go either way

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    How would a hammer vote not be needed?

    With everyone role claiming I agree it would be a clusterfuck. I mean if you’re scum and you fake role claim then the person who is actually that role would know you’re scum, So then roleclaiming would favor town heavily right?
    The way I was originally going to change the rules in South Park: Most votes get lynched with or without a hammer. The hammer would only be there to bind a lynch and end it early.

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    Good scum player vs someone everyone thinks of as a bad player. It would be a gamble.

    Or the scum role blocker knows who to sit on all game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    You've been playing this year's haven't you.
    What you on about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    I have only tried playing outside here a few times and that was way back. We do things so differently here... the role claiming and bread crumbing stuff is part of the game elsewhere. Day 1 is pretty much everyone openly claiming to be one of the roles and the huge amount of D1 generated discussion is between players who have claimed to be the same role.
    I tried to do this here twice. Two small games in which breadcrumbing and roleclaiming were both completely open.

    One of the reasons why it's taken me SIX FUCKING YEARS to follow up Street Fighter with Mortal Kombat is just how clusterfuckery both of those games were. Honestly, they stung with how badly they fell down.

    I play mafia outside of these boards, Salem mostly. It's an entirely different game to the one we play. The "normal" version is so much more in tune with how I naturally play the game. It is pure bluster and bullshit, and if anyone needed a reminder that is my game all they need to do is look at South Park. The version we play here is much more a logic and detective game. I enjoy our style more, despite it playing against my strengths.

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    Could you clear out some PM space please? You'll probably work out why if you look in the MK thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP View Post
    @virmicious

    Could you clear out some PM space please? You'll probably work out why if you look in the MK thread.
    @virmicious

    Don't worry, it sorted itself out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP View Post
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    Could you clear out some PM space please? You'll probably work out why if you look in the MK thread.
    Done

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    Venari is ready as soon as needed, it’s a pretty straightforward one with no real variety or unique roles so it went together pretty clean.

    Venari - Morbus ... coming soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rip View Post
    Venari is ready as soon as needed, it’s a pretty straightforward one with no real variety or unique roles so it went together pretty clean.

    Venari - Morbus ... coming soon
    If you could hold off till like February 20th, that would be great.

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    No really, couple of tweaks and it’s ready.

    When MK wraps we’re ready.

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    Nice. Loving the mafia resurgence. Gives me something to do in my down time.

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    I’m going to make a special section of the Rajah Archive to collect all of the old Mafia games.

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    Good call

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    Nice. Some of my best work in those threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cewsh View Post
    I’m going to make a special section of the Rajah Archive to collect all of the old Mafia games.
    Great idea man, I'll have a look at those and get some tips. I've enjoyed my mafia experience on the whole, I've made two massive blunders in my first two games but will get better with time and experience.

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    Done and done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rip View Post
    No really, couple of tweaks and it’s ready.

    When MK wraps we’re ready.
    Ready when you are Rip!

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    I have no idea how any of the mafia works here, but am I excited to be a part of it, fail quickly, and be inordinately mad about it.

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    I’d poibtvanyone new to the archive section, well worth reading the style of each game for n advance as we do all have different interpretations of the rules and roles, and if in doubt ask

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    Just noticed the Always Sunny game. Fuck, wish I got into that one.

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    I am rusty, but what is the proper non-town to town percentage? I remember it being somewhere in the area of 33% but couldn’t remember if that was right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrod1983 View Post
    Just noticed the Always Sunny game. Fuck, wish I got into that one.
    That was from a year or two ago, I just bumped it so it got moved to archive

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdestiny View Post
    I am rusty, but what is the proper non-town to town percentage? I remember it being somewhere in the area of 33% but couldn’t remember if that was right.
    Depends on the size of the game and the distribution of power roles. Generally 25-33%.

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    No idea what you're talking about, mate

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