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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Was Ted DiBiase ever a face in WWE?


    When it was important, no.

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    Apparently Strowman's dating Raquel Gonzalez? News to me. Also, #BabyDickBoy
    https://www.gerweck.net/2021/06/14/b...quel-gonzalez/

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    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post
    Apparently Strowman's dating Raquel Gonzalez? News to me. Also, #BabyDickBoy
    https://www.gerweck.net/2021/06/14/b...quel-gonzalez/
    Strowman's Instagram with him hanging out with elephants, feeding lions, etc has been really cool.

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    I’ll never understand an athlete/celebrity’s desire to respond to a troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigAl View Post
    I’ll never understand an athlete/celebrity’s desire to respond to a troll.
    Boredom

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    I was watching the Fresh Prince reunion on HBO Max today and suddenly realized that Sasha probably got the Banks name from Hilary Banks. I don't know how I never thought about it before.

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    My belief is she got the Banks name from doing errands one day and stopping at Chase and then TD and finally PNC. Lightbulb appeared on top of her head that day.

    She got Sasha from Sacha Baron Cohen, whom she is a huge fan of. She is known for her Borat and Ali G impersonations backstage.


    To think, if she needed food that day, she could have been called Sasha Supermarkets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    I was watching the Fresh Prince reunion on HBO Max today and suddenly realized that Sasha probably got the Banks name from Hilary Banks. I don't know how I never thought about it before.
    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    My belief is she got the Banks name from doing errands one day and stopping at Chase and then TD and finally PNC. Lightbulb appeared on top of her head that day.

    She got Sasha from Sacha Baron Cohen, whom she is a huge fan of. She is known for her Borat and Ali G impersonations backstage.


    To think, if she needed food that day, she could have been called Sasha Supermarkets.
    https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/20...h-of-all-time/

    i was just reading this yesterday

    The name came really just randomly ,” Banks said. “They asked me to put a long list of names, and I always remember putting Sasha with a different last name and Banks with a different first name. And I remember just debuting at a house show for WWE and I needed a name. I was kind of just Mercedes KV. Finally Sara Del Rey came into the room and said ‘we got you a name.’ I go ‘oh what is it?’ She goes ‘it’s Sasha Banks.’ I’m like ‘oh! I love it. That sounds really really good!’
    “I texted my mom. I said ‘hey mom, I got a WWE name. It’s Sasha Banks.’ She ended up calling me and goes ‘that’s a porn star name! Tell them to change it!’ I go ‘mom I can’t tell WWE to change the name.’ That’s how my mom is. She’s come around to the name. She’s like Mama Banks now.”

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    I believe she also told that story on Broken Skull Sessions.

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    Where has Sasha been lately?

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    Oh. I wonder if Sara Del Rey and whoever else got it from Fresh Prince. Or maybe it's just a coincidence with the last name and being rich and bossy.

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    They always have to have a boring story for how they come up with their name, don't they? My theory, and also Bert's theory, is much more exciting.

    You know where the Boss nickname came from, right? She's a huuuuuge Bruce Springsteen fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hero! View Post
    And how does her Mother know what a porn star name is?

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    Speaking of WWE talent with porn star names. So yesterday on Twitter I see something like "RIP Dakota Skye" trending and I'm like holy shit what happened she was just on NXT last night right? Then it hit me, oh shit, it's the porn star! I confused her with Dakota KAI. So RIP Dakota Skye as I'm sure you are somewhere in my memory warehouse.

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    Wait…… wtf happened to Dakota Skye!!!!

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    She died.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caito View Post
    Wait…… wtf happened to Dakota Skye!!!!
    Rumor mill is "accidental" drug overdose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasori View Post
    And how does her Mother know what a porn star name is?
    Michael Cole has accidentally called her "Sasha Gray" before....lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Rumor mill is "accidental" drug overdose.
    How sad. Big fan of hers...until I noticed she always looks totally zonked out on something.

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    Is Walter a heel? If so, all the top title holders in WWE are heels. Add in Apollo Crews and Sheamus as well if you want.

    At least the women's champs are faces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Is Walter a heel? If so, all the top title holders in WWE are heels. Add in Apollo Crews and Sheamus as well if you want.

    At least the women's champs are faces.
    I think there's some flexibility with Karrion Kross. Somewhere between beating Finn Balor and getting confronted by Adam Cole (bay bay) he morphed into a tweener.

    Bronson Reed is a babyface if we want to include Crews and Sheamus.

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    True about Kross. He's taking on all challengers. Just felt very heel heavy with the titles, and for a long time now too. Reigns has to be nearing a year, Lashley has got to be nearing half a year, etc. Walter for 5 years now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    True about Kross. He's taking on all challengers. Just felt very heel heavy with the titles, and for a long time now too. Reigns has to be nearing a year, Lashley has got to be nearing half a year, etc. Walter for 5 years now.
    Yeah Roman has been going strong 10 months. A little over a year ago I would have never imagined how well this has worked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Is Walter a heel? If so, all the top title holders in WWE are heels. Add in Apollo Crews and Sheamus as well if you want.

    At least the women's champs are faces.
    There's also KUSHIDA.

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    MSK and Bronson Reed faces too.

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    Walter is just Walter. Seems to be beyond good and evil.


    Love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Was Ted DiBiase ever a face in WWE?
    I believe only when it was run by Vince Sr. He was the first North American champ and first victim of Hulk Hogan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    I think there's some flexibility with Karrion Kross. Somewhere between beating Finn Balor and getting confronted by Adam Cole (bay bay) he morphed into a tweener.

    Bronson Reed is a babyface if we want to include Crews and Sheamus.
    Yeah, if the injury did not happen he might have stayed heel. AJ and Omas seems to be a tweener even. Can't wait for fans to finally choose again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluegunn View Post
    Yeah, if the injury did not happen he might have stayed heel. AJ and Omas seems to be a tweener even. Can't wait for fans to finally choose again
    I haven't seen AJ and Omas fight anyone NOT considered a babyface so I think they're still heels. Even this past Monday, AJ fought a babyface.

    I mean, we're fans, we're choosing. The audience is just a portion, sometimes they don't cheer or boo they just sit there (Minneapolis fans I'm looking at you, what the fuck happened?)

    After catching up on NXT it seems like maybe Kross is back to full blown heel. I thought maybe they were going to have Kross v. Cole be a thing but thank God it didn't happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    I haven't seen AJ and Omas fight anyone NOT considered a babyface so I think they're still heels. Even this past Monday, AJ fought a babyface.

    I mean, we're fans, we're choosing. The audience is just a portion, sometimes they don't cheer or boo they just sit there (Minneapolis fans I'm looking at you, what the fuck happened?)

    After catching up on NXT it seems like maybe Kross is back to full blown heel. I thought maybe they were going to have Kross v. Cole be a thing but thank God it didn't happen.
    Elias and Ryker?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluegunn View Post
    Elias and Ryker?
    In my head I was only remembering a segment and thought the match didn't really happen lol. I had to look up the last couple months of AJ Styles and yeah other than a handful of matches involving Elias/Ryker, it's been nothing but babyfaces. New Day, Drew, shit they even teamed up with Elias/Ryker a little over a month ago.

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    https://www.ringsidenews.com/2021/06...out-wrestling/

    Bobby Ashley. I wonder why ratings are so low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    https://www.ringsidenews.com/2021/06...out-wrestling/

    Bobby Ashley. I wonder why ratings are so low.
    The sad thing is, over at AEW where everyone supposedly knows everything...they're ratings are a fraction of Raw/Smackdown. So I guess you have to wonder, does it matter? Does this one person who for some odd reason is getting this huge basket of attention reflect everyone in the WWE? I don't know. Trump didn't know who the fuck Bobby Lashley was either and he became President so you tell me.

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    This match rules


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    Quote Originally Posted by Defrost View Post
    This match rules

    Never hit a Samoan/Tongan or anyone from that region in the head. Unwritten kayfabe rule. You’d have thought Jimmy would’ve figured that out lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Never hit a Samoan/Tongan or anyone from that region in the head. Unwritten kayfabe rule. You’d have thought Jimmy would’ve figured that out lol.
    Weird though how Kokina's head became easy to hit when he became Yokozuna

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defrost View Post
    Weird though how Kokina's head became easy to hit when he became Yokozuna
    I think Yoko was the exception to the Samoan rule for a couple of reasons:

    1. He was portrayed as Japanese and swept his Samoan heritage under the rug so they didn’t play up the whole “Samoan hard head” shtick with him iirc.

    2. Also because of that and he was so large elsewhere, his head was considered probably kayfabe-wise the weakest part of his body lol.

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    Ya know, I only recently realized that they largely avoided calling Yoko Japanese and would instead say he was from Polynesia and the Japanese heritage was implied from Fuji waving the Japanese flag.

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    From what I remember in the Yoko Icons doc, they acknowledged he was Samoan but the Japanese aspect was more like an honorary residence due to his alleged sumo experience.

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    Yeah, that seems correct as I can't see WWE ever being that blatantly racist.

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    I mean, Kofi was Jamaican until he wasn't but he was already doing that gimmick pre-WWE. They weren't Jamaican him do it.

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    I don't think Kofi existed before WWE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post
    I mean, Kofi was Jamaican until he wasn't but he was already doing that gimmick pre-WWE. They weren't Jamaican him do it.



    I mean……. Geezus mth

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    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post
    I mean, Kofi was Jamaican until he wasn't but he was already doing that gimmick pre-WWE. They weren't Jamaican him do it.
    It’s been months since I’ve posted here.

    This is fucking amazing

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    Vince is looking like he's been fighting off the grim reaper


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    Vince looks better than other pics honestly to me

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    Not sure where to post this, but it got forwarded to me and I thought it was fun.


    https://979espn.iheart.com/content/2...eo-goes-viral/

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    This is pretty freakin' brilliant...

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    I've yet to hear a bad orchestra remix of a song, it makes anything great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post
    This is pretty freakin' brilliant...
    Incredible

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    Rip patriot
    Last edited by Hero!; July 1st, 2021 at 5:41 PM.

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    https://twitter.com/TheaTrinidad/sta...375349248?s=19

    Nothing to see here just Dave going nuts and upsetting women again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Griffin View Post
    https://twitter.com/TheaTrinidad/sta...375349248?s=19

    Nothing to see here just Dave going nuts and upsetting women again.
    I guess you listened to it? I mean he made a valid point and comparison. I get both sides of the argument but I don't think he is singling out women as a whole here.

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    Yes I did thanks, And no he didn't make a valid point because he went mental calling a woman stupid because she used the words dirt sheet writers as if he was personally attacked. And now he doesn't respect her ffs.

    So less condescending thanks.

    And I make this the third woman I know of he has upset, But then I know your track record so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Griffin View Post
    Yes I did thanks, And no he didn't make a valid point because he went mental calling a woman stupid because she used the words dirt sheet writers as if he was personally attacked. And now he doesn't respect her ffs.

    So less condescending thanks.

    And I make this the third woman I know of he has upset, But then I know your track record so.
    His comparison he made was just. Contrary to what she said she still has a tweet out there lumping all dirt sheet writers together and he made an apt comparison and said it was fucking stupid to do so. I don't think he's going women are fucking stupid he clearly stated her lumping all dirt sheet writers together was fucking stupid.

    I think you just have such a hard on for the guy, let's face it, we know your track record of exploding, that you are ready to burn him at the stake for any little thing you can find.

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    what tweet does she have saying ALL dirt sheet writers? the one with the gif? cause if so, it doesnt say that.

    ya never hear dave give this much oxygen to the times when male talent shits on 'the dirt sheets,' which happens way more often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    what tweet does she have saying ALL dirt sheet writers? the one with the gif? cause if so, it doesnt say that.

    ya never hear dave give this much oxygen to the times when male talent shits on 'the dirt sheets,' which happens way more often.
    Fucking bingo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    what tweet does she have saying ALL dirt sheet writers? the one with the gif? cause if so, it doesnt say that.

    ya never hear dave give this much oxygen to the times when male talent shits on 'the dirt sheets,' which happens way more often.
    It is implied. Otherwise name and shame. She obviously hates Meltzer so why not put his name out there? I mean it is what it has escalated to.

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    Anyways, like I said. I see both sides. I don't really know much of Meltzer other than people posting his match rating and occasionally complaining about him. Other than Peter wanting to trounce on him any chance he gets

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    Quote Originally Posted by virms View Post
    Anyways, like I said. I see both sides. I don't really know much of Meltzer other than people posting his match rating and occasionally complaining about him. Other than Peter wanting to trounce on him any chance he gets
    The thing you Trumpers and Epstein types continue to do is go to bat for pieces of shit you admit to not really know much about.

    You're white knighting Dave Meltzer's opinion of women-which has a terrible track record-just to spite Peter? That's smart.....

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    When it comes to Meltzer, it's the same format. Female wrestler makes comment... Dave gets triggered... Dave makes stupid comment... female wrestler fires back... Dave gets backlash... Dave walks it back... Dave cries himself to sleep.

    Meltzer just hates women. End of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    The thing you Trumpers and Epstein types continue to do is go to bat for pieces of shit you admit to not really know much about.

    You're white knighting Dave Meltzer's opinion of women-which has a terrible track record-just to spite Peter? That's smart.....
    And there's the promo...

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    Dave Meltzer is a piece of shit.

    In other breaking news, water is wet and the sun is bright.

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    Who runs the two man power trip podcast? Because at this point anyone giving Alberto any platform can get fucked.

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    Meltzer isnt a piece of shit. He's clearly somewhere in the autism spectrum and misjudges social minutae and grace and says things that come out of his mouth sounding far far worse than he intended.

    The Cassie Lee comment, he basically remarked that she had gotten bigger - his way of alluding to breast implants, which she had recently gotten. This spiralled into a 'fat shaming' discussion. Should he be talking about her boobs in the first place? I dunno, but something taken completely out of context and jumped on in what's a very tribal argument

    With Charlotte, he said she was taking time off to have cosmetic surgery and a more general point about women in WWE historically being judged on looks and changing their looks to fit in with the 'standard'. His actual point (I listened to the whole thing) was him saying this was WRONG, and it shouldnt be like this, but the company more or less have expected it. Again you can agree or disagree with that overarching point. I happen to agree with it and think theres plenty of both visual and spoken evidence and testimony to back it up. However, what was taken from that was 'dave calls charlotte ugly and says office told her to get surgery' or something.

    I have no qualms with people disagreeing with what dave has actually said or did, but what seems to happen is people take one or two lines out of a five minute discussion, flip the context slightly to suit their argument and then run with it.

    With Zelina, she made a post about how the dirtsheet writers were all writing lies about her. Most people including dave had reported exactly what happened - she had signed back with WWE and would be back soon. For me if you want to throw those smarmy 'hmmm take that DIRT SHEET INTERNET WRITERS you were WRONG' when you're actually in the wrong yourself, then you have to be prepared to take the blowback too.

    Again, you can argue legitimately on both sides whether he should engage in the first place but if you're just going to blanket shout MELTZER IS WRONG HE IS A SCUMBAG HE IS ALWAYS FAKE NEWS at least take ten minutes to read up on both sides and get a genuine understanding of the facts before lodging an opinion.
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    OK Bryan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Griffin View Post
    OK Bryan.
    Great discussion Peter. You get a worthwhile reply that's well thought out and concise and you throw a vague insult.

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    Like your discussion yesterday eh? OHDID YOU LISTEN TO IT EH GRIFFIN

    Dickhead.

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    You can honestly get fucked you parasite, put me on ignore because that s where you are going and fucking do one.

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    I could tell you were in one of your spats between this and another post I saw in a different thread.

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    Peter I've literally written a post saying its okay not to like dave etc but the predominant narratives i've seen against him in those scenarios have been demonstrably false and thats easily proven by taking the time to read and listen to the discussions in question - and you've replied with the exact types of responses I was talking about

    Its 2pm on a tuesday afternoon and you're going off on one at people on the internet over what? chill mate.
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    I have no problem with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slare View Post
    Meltzer isnt a piece of shit. He's clearly somewhere in the autism spectrum and misjudges social minutae and grace and says things that come out of his mouth sounding far far worse than he intended.

    The Cassie Lee comment, he basically remarked that she had gotten bigger - his way of alluding to breast implants, which she had recently gotten. This spiralled into a 'fat shaming' discussion. Should he be talking about her boobs in the first place? I dunno, but something taken completely out of context and jumped on in what's a very tribal argument

    With Charlotte, he said she was taking time off to have cosmetic surgery and a more general point about women in WWE historically being judged on looks and changing their looks to fit in with the 'standard'. His actual point (I listened to the whole thing) was him saying this was WRONG, and it shouldnt be like this, but the company more or less have expected it. Again you can agree or disagree with that overarching point. I happen to agree with it and think theres plenty of both visual and spoken evidence and testimony to back it up. However, what was taken from that was 'dave calls charlotte ugly and says office told her to get surgery' or something.

    I have no qualms with people disagreeing with what dave has actually said or did, but what seems to happen is people take one or two lines out of a five minute discussion, flip the context slightly to suit their argument and then run with it.

    With Zelina, she made a post about how the dirtsheet writers were all writing lies about her. Most people including dave had reported exactly what happened - she had signed back with WWE and would be back soon. For me if you want to throw those smarmy 'hmmm take that DIRT SHEET INTERNET WRITERS you were WRONG' when you're actually in the wrong yourself, then you have to be prepared to take the blowback too.

    Again, you can argue legitimately on both sides whether he should engage in the first place but if you're just going to blanket shout MELTZER IS WRONG HE IS A SCUMBAG HE IS ALWAYS FAKE NEWS at least take ten minutes to read up on both sides and get a genuine understanding of the facts before lodging an opinion.
    What qualifications do you have to assume Meltzer has some form of autism?

    You typed all that out to defend Meltzer, claim he has autism as an excuse for why he is the way he is....Is that the new defense mechanism Meltzer fan boys like you are using these days? "Oh he has autism" Oh my bad....Show me any proof he has it and maybe I'll give a shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virms View Post
    And there's the promo...
    lol.

    And there's the deflection.

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    Jimmy Uso at it again the silly boy.

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    Dave's always like "So and so may sign with WWE, but if it doesn't happen then WWE changed their minds", and it's quite comical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Griffin View Post
    Jimmy Uso at it again the silly boy.
    The man definitely needs help.

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    How many is that now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    What qualifications do you have to assume Meltzer has some form of autism?

    You typed all that out to defend Meltzer, claim he has autism as an excuse for why he is the way he is....Is that the new defense mechanism Meltzer fan boys like you are using these days? "Oh he has autism" Oh my bad....Show me any proof he has it and maybe I'll give a shit.
    15+ years of listening to him for 3+ hours a week and reading his materials for 20+

    Why does your post have to be so tribal? I’m not a fanboy, it’s not a black or white situation. Just have a normal discussion like a normal person without having to turn it into a FANBOY DIRT SHEET AEW VS WWE thing.

    It’s not an excuse, it’s an observation at my end as to why I beleive he puts hit foot in his mouth. I don’t think he is a bad person, I think he says things in the wrong way and often doesn’t make his point clear.

    Once again, on the three topics where he’s been dragged through the mud, it’s fairly clear to anyone with an open mind who wants to sit down and listen to what’s being actually said rather than a clip or a single line quote that he’s been misrepresented. That’s not being a fanboy, that’s listening to both sides of an argument like an adult, taking the evidence at hand and coming to what I think is a fair conclusion.

    I really couldn’t care less whether you like or dislike him or think he’s scum, just think in most scenarios and twitter pile ons a little bit of calmer heads and actual reading/listening to things help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Dave's always like "So and so may sign with WWE, but if it doesn't happen then WWE changed their minds", and it's quite comical.
    Cool man, then don’t listen to him, or pay attention to him, or whatever. Or offer something better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slare View Post
    15+ years of listening to him for 3+ hours a week and reading his materials for 20+

    Why does your post have to be so tribal? I’m not a fanboy, it’s not a black or white situation. Just have a normal discussion like a normal person without having to turn it into a FANBOY DIRT SHEET AEW VS WWE thing.

    It’s not an excuse, it’s an observation at my end as to why I beleive he puts hit foot in his mouth. I don’t think he is a bad person, I think he says things in the wrong way and often doesn’t make his point clear.

    Once again, on the three topics where he’s been dragged through the mud, it’s fairly clear to anyone with an open mind who wants to sit down and listen to what’s being actually said rather than a clip or a single line quote that he’s been misrepresented. That’s not being a fanboy, that’s listening to both sides of an argument like an adult, taking the evidence at hand and coming to what I think is a fair conclusion.

    I really couldn’t care less whether you like or dislike him or think he’s scum, just think in most scenarios and twitter pile ons a little bit of calmer heads and actual reading/listening to things help.
    Saying someone has autism just to defend them is odd.

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    That’s not a defence. It’s an explanation from my perspective as to why he says a lot of silly shit, a reason isn’t an excuse. I said about 5 times on that post that I beleive being critical of him and disliking him for things he ACTUALLY says is absolutely fair. But once again, a point you’ve missed a few times, I beleive it’s fair to read and listen to the full context of things being said and arguments being made before sweeping generalisations and throwing around hate.

    Which is ironically exactly what you do in most circumstances
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slare View Post
    That’s not a defence. It’s an explanation from my perspective as to why he says a lot of silly shit, a reason isn’t an excuse. I said about 5 times on that post that I beleive being critical of him and disliking him for things he ACTUALLY says is absolutely fair. But once again, a point you’ve missed a few times, I beleive it’s fair to read and listen to the full context of things being said and arguments being made before sweeping generalisations and throwing around hate.

    Which is ironically exactly what you do in most circumstances
    You're claiming he possibly has autism. Do you understand how offensive that can be to someone who has a child with autism? That you just go "Oh well he shows the signs" What signs? What qualifies you to make that assumption?

    And yes, you're using it as a way to defend him against people who think he's a fucking moron. "Oh he's not degrading women he's just showing signs of autism" The fuck? You're not in any position to make that assumption. You typed up a fucking novel defending everything he's said recently about women, while starting it all off by insinuating the reasoning behind his madness is that he's probably autistic lol. The fuck?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slare View Post
    Cool man, then don’t listen to him, or pay attention to him, or whatever. Or offer something better.
    I'm beginning to think you are Dave Meltzer.

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    A true Meltzer apologist.

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    Fucking hell.

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    Anyone who watched this and said "This is great!" should never be allowed to watch wrestling again.

    Hangman Page was someone who I couldn't stand for years. I felt everything-including his World title match with Jericho-was just overpushing a guy who was still midcard at best. But I really warmed up to him during the build to the break up and was really excited for his singles run after feuding with Kenny for 2 seconds and then.....nothing.

    I think personally for me it's the affiliation with the Dark Order. I've hated that stable pretty much since the start. It's one of those ideas that had potential, but then you realize oh fuck, this stable really did die with Brodie Lee. And even then it was arguably the worst shit on American wrestling television, but at least we had Brodie Lee the Redksins fan.

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    I feel like you posted this in the wrong thread.

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    Oh shit I think I did, we were just talking so much about AEW's news broadcaster I forgot where I was lol.

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    Wrong thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    I feel like you posted this in the wrong thread.
    Hes to riled up about @Caito and his drive thru beliefs to remain rationale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virms View Post
    Hes to riled up about @Caito and his drive thru beliefs to remain rationale.
    As opposed to you, crying about the TGIF thread in the coronavirus thread lol.

    When you throw stones in a glass house....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    As opposed to you, crying about the TGIF thread in the coronavirus thread lol.

    When you throw stones in a glass house, brother!
    I was just kidding. Would you like me to edit in a lol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Griffin View Post
    A true Meltzer apologist.
    Why are you so angry? Why can you not engage in a grown up discussion about the facts of a scenario, or why you think x and I think y. Rather than just saying “he’s a cunt you’re an apologist” why not share why you think he is, with any sort of evidence and facts to back up your claims or a rebuttal to any of the actual evidence/narrative I’ve offered? Why are you just so angry and replying only in personal attacks and slurs? The exact same thing you’re slaying him for. Weird
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    Oh and apparently Uso's 1st dui got thrown out and he was found not guilty. So technically this is his first if he gets convicted. Money talks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virms View Post
    I was just kidding. Would you like me to edit in a lol?
    Whatever works for you Epstein.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Whatever works for you, brother.

    Am I under suicide watch?

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