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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Scott View Post
    First I’ve seen of it, Vince trying to cash in on the populate turtles of the 90’s.
    I actually think it was the jobbers who brought the gimmick to the table lol. I know on Bruce Prichard's podcast they talked about it early on and I swear he said Duane Gill and the other guy showed up in the gimmick or something to that affect.

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    This RAW Reunion show would be a great time to start a hot new angle, don't you think? Something along the lines of the Nexus debut. Just turn the WWE on it's head.

    Here's what I would like to see in my fantasy world. (only three are possible)

    - Kevin Owens shows up and says "Nobody wants to see you old timer's any more, you had your time, it's our time to shine" and then stuns Steve Austin out of the ring.
    - Just have Sycho Sid powerbomb everyone for no reason
    - Have Sting confront the Undertaker (If they are there)
    - CM Punk returns to RAW (hopefully not, but would be unexpected)
    - Legends galore win the 24/7 title
    - Ted DiBiase buys the Universal Title off of Brock Lesnar (we know Brock loves money), and then pays Seth Rollins money to not fight him at SummerSlam.
    - A tribute to the fallen stars that have appeared on RAW in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    - Legends galore win the 24/7 title
    I'd quite like to see this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald
    CM Punk returns to RAW (hopefully not, but would be unexpected)
    I’d put more money on Zach Gowen coming back and beating Brock for the title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    I’d put more money on Zach Gowen coming back and beating Brock for the title.
    That sounds good. A lot better than another DX reunion. Does anyone want to see 50 year old men acting like they're teenagers? Goddamn I got so pissed off when I read about that. Shawn, you were good in the 90s, not too bad in the 00s, but your 00s DX shit was cringeworthy. HHH you only had cool theme music but that's more because Motorhead rules and you suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    This RAW Reunion show would be a great time to start a hot new angle, don't you think? Something along the lines of the Nexus debut. Just turn the WWE on it's head.

    Here's what I would like to see in my fantasy world. (only three are possible)

    - Kevin Owens shows up and says "Nobody wants to see you old timer's any more, you had your time, it's our time to shine" and then stuns Steve Austin out of the ring.
    - Just have Sycho Sid powerbomb everyone for no reason
    - Have Sting confront the Undertaker (If they are there)
    - CM Punk returns to RAW (hopefully not, but would be unexpected)
    - Legends galore win the 24/7 title
    - Ted DiBiase buys the Universal Title off of Brock Lesnar (we know Brock loves money), and then pays Seth Rollins money to not fight him at SummerSlam.
    - A tribute to the fallen stars that have appeared on RAW in the past.
    I don't know about any of that, but one of the old timers should get a run with the 24/7 title over the course of the show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    That sounds good. A lot better than another DX reunion. Does anyone want to see 50 year old men acting like they're teenagers? Goddamn I got so pissed off when I read about that. Shawn, you were good in the 90s, not too bad in the 00s, but your 00s DX shit was cringeworthy. HHH you only had cool theme music but that's more because Motorhead rules and you suck.
    HHH and HBK, where they were at in their personal and professional lives when they reunited 10 years ago or whenever the fuck it was.....The DX routine didn't age well with them. It just didn't make any sense and having Shawn like bounce out of a segment that was going to be about titty jokes made it worse lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasori View Post
    I don't know about any of that, but one of the old timers should get a run with the 24/7 title over the course of the show.
    Gotta be DiBiase paying somebody to lay down for him to get a quick 3 count on.

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    The Boogeyman getting into some 24/7 Title shenanigans with Truth and Maverick would please me greatly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    HHH and HBK, where they were at in their personal and professional lives when they reunited 10 years ago or whenever the fuck it was.....The DX routine didn't age well with them. It just didn't make any sense and having Shawn like bounce out of a segment that was going to be about titty jokes made it worse lol.

    Except for when HHH tricked him into going looking for Mr. fuji. That's a go-to distraction.

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    Reunite Miz and Morrison and have them do the Dirt Sheet again.

    “MR FUUUUJIIIII!”

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    Anyone ever watch Duck Dynasty? My boss and I used to watch it here and there. Well last night I was like fuck it, let's see if Hulu has any seasons. They did, the first and last. So I pop one on with my 8 year old daughter and she goes "Which one is the wrestler?" So after sitting there for a few mins telling her none of them, then also thinking of an old ep where Hacksaw Duggan appeared...It hit me.

    She thought Daniel Bryan was one of these motherfuckers lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Anyone ever watch Duck Dynasty? My boss and I used to watch it here and there. Well last night I was like fuck it, let's see if Hulu has any seasons. They did, the first and last. So I pop one on with my 8 year old daughter and she goes "Which one is the wrestler?" So after sitting there for a few mins telling her none of them, then also thinking of an old ep where Hacksaw Duggan appeared...It hit me.

    She thought Daniel Bryan was one of these motherfuckers lol.

    Any one of the Wyatt Family members could have been confused for those fuckers

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    Quote Originally Posted by virmicious View Post
    Any one of the Wyatt Family members could have been confused for those fuckers
    Fuckin right. Especially Bray and Luke. Bray looks like the main dude, William.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    I actually think it was the jobbers who brought the gimmick to the table lol. I know on Bruce Prichard's podcast they talked about it early on and I swear he said Duane Gill and the other guy showed up in the gimmick or something to that affect.
    Yes the two jobbers bought the costumes in hopes that they could then work 2 matches a night and double their pay. Vince saw one of them moon walking back stage in costume and loved it so much he put them on immediately.

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    I was watching an old SNME with Hogan/Warrior v. Mr Perfect/The Genius last night. It was in between Rumble and Mania 6. You ever notice when Hogan is in a promo with someone or multiple people he kind of takes over that other person's persona?

    For example, he's cutting a promo with Warrior. Hogan starts it and the lead in to Warrior is "And Warrior will press slam them into the Darkness!!" Kinda Warriorish lol. But I noticed it not too long ago watching Nitro he started a promo with Nash and Hall and then half way through he went all West coast gangster on everyone lol.

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    I love in every promo that Warrior does with other wrestlers, when the other wrestlers are talking, he's just pacing in the background making weird fucking noises.

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    Get Jimmy Uso help ffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Griffin View Post
    Get Jimmy Uso help ffs.
    What’s happened now?

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    DUI naturally.

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    I would love to be Jimmy Uso's designated driver. I don't really drink anymore, and if it's a paid job I'd love to do it. I'd also buy his groceries and take care of his house if he wanted me to.

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    Cent ain’t bested, Jimmy got arrested

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    So WWE makes light of the Usos getting arrested for drunk driving which is so odd and then he gets arrested again for the same shit. Not a good look at all.

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    It's tough to be an Uso fan when this shit keeps happening...

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    Why the samoans should start being stupid again...

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    This has to be the what - 3rd or 4th time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    So WWE makes light of the Usos getting arrested for drunk driving which is so odd and then he gets arrested again for the same shit. Not a good look at all.
    Not a good look for who? Because they made light of them getting arrested they shouldn't have done it in case one of them fucked up again?

    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post
    It's tough to be an Uso fan when this shit keeps happening...
    Is it tough? He didn't hurt anyone. And you can still like the character, the performer, and not be fond of the legal troubles he finds himself in. None of us are perfect and none of us can truly say we haven't done something illegal. Just because you weren't caught doesn't absolve your sins in the eyes of the Lord. aka Me.

    Quote Originally Posted by VHS View Post
    This has to be the what - 3rd or 4th time?
    1st DUI. In January he was arrested for disorderly conduct and he was drunk but he wasn't driving, Naomi was.

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    Not the Uso Penitentiary, but the state Penitentiary

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Not a good look for who? Because they made light of them getting arrested they shouldn't have done it in case one of them fucked up again?
    Umm no. Not a good look that they made light of getting arrested and then it's even worse the idiot got arrested again. It almost seemed like it's not a bad thing to get arrested for that. They laughed it off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Griffin View Post
    DUI naturally.
    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Cent ain’t bested, Jimmy got arrested
    The timing is odd. Maybe Jimmy decided he was going to own the burn John gave him and his brother

    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Not a good look for who? Because they made light of them getting arrested they shouldn't have done it in case one of them fucked up again?



    Is it tough? He didn't hurt anyone. And you can still like the character, the performer, and not be fond of the legal troubles he finds himself in. None of us are perfect and none of us can truly say we haven't done something illegal. Just because you weren't caught doesn't absolve your sins in the eyes of the Lord. aka Me.



    1st DUI. In January he was arrested for disorderly conduct and he was drunk but he wasn't driving, Naomi was.
    Jey is the one who got the DUI prior to this.

    You can't downplay drunk driving like it's shop lifting. No one was hurt, but they could have been. WWE needs to step in and get Jimmy some help.

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    Looks like 3 DUIs for the team over the past few years

    Definitely need something indeed
    Last edited by kdestiny; July 25th, 2019 at 2:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puppies View Post
    Not the Uso Penitentiary, but the state Penitentiary
    I came here expecting this. I was not let down.

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    I am pretty sure jimmy was arrested in 2011 and 2013 for drinking and driving too. So this isn’t the first time at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    Umm no. Not a good look that they made light of getting arrested and then it's even worse the idiot got arrested again. It almost seemed like it's not a bad thing to get arrested for that. They laughed it off.
    It was Cena doing what he does, shitting on people. No different than him calling out The Rock for getting a boob job. Uncomfortable jabs is battle rap 101. I doubt you cared one bit until Jimmy got arrested today.

    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    I am pretty sure jimmy was arrested in 2011 and 2013 for drinking and driving too. So this isn’t the first time at all
    I'm only seeing the one incident in Detroit on their wiki page and Jey was arrested in Jan 2018 for DUI.

    EDIT: Nope you're right dude, 2011 and 2013. I didn't do a descriptive google search lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasori View Post

    You can't downplay drunk driving like it's shop lifting. No one was hurt, but they could have been. WWE needs to step in and get Jimmy some help.
    Fuck all what I just posted without being educated enough on the situation.

    But I will say this.......I do think it's a little dramatic to struggle with being fan of the Usos based on stuff that happens outside of the ring. We're not talking Chris Benoit here or a guy who beats his wife. A guy who over 8 years had 3 DUI's.....I'm not hating on a guy for that. Maybe 3 in a year would be rough but hey, people wild out especially in entertainment.
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    I'm pretty sure people don't struggle with liking Jeff Hardy and he has a laundry list of issues. That's not to say this issue needs to be ignored, but I highly doubt this impacts their interest from the fan base. That said, this needs to stop being an issue because he's getting extremely lucky that these incidences aren't ending with fatal results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Fuck all what I just posted without being educated enough on the situation.

    But I will say this.......I do think it's a little dramatic to struggle with being fan of the Usos based on stuff that happens outside of the ring. We're not talking Chris Benoit here or a guy who beats his wife. A guy who over 8 years had 3 DUI's.....I'm not hating on a guy for that. Maybe 3 in a year would be rough but hey, people wild out especially in entertainment.
    So what you're saying is, I shouldn't hate Chris Jericho with a passion because he said he would never work for any promotion in America besides Vince McMahon's, only to turn back on his word?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    I'm pretty sure people don't struggle with liking Jeff Hardy and he has a laundry list of issues. That's not to say this issue needs to be ignored, but I highly doubt this impacts their interest from the fan base. That said, this needs to stop being an issue because he's getting extremely lucky that these incidences aren't ending with fatal results.
    Yeah I'm wanting to be clear that I'm saying ah who cares he didn't kill anyone so let him keep driving under the influence! I'm just saying there's a little high horsing going on here from certain fans. Nothing about Jimmy Uso's personal life affects my opinion of his professional life. Stone Cold Steve Austin used to beat his wives, I still love Stone Cold. Don't really care for STeve Williams the man.

    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    So what you're saying is, I shouldn't hate Chris Jericho with a passion because he said he would never work for any promotion in America besides Vince McMahon's, only to turn back on his word?
    Exactly because it's consumed you lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Yeah I'm wanting to be clear that I'm saying ah who cares he didn't kill anyone so let him keep driving under the influence! I'm just saying there's a little high horsing going on here from certain fans. Nothing about Jimmy Uso's personal life affects my opinion of his professional life. Stone Cold Steve Austin used to beat his wives, I still love Stone Cold. Don't really care for STeve Williams the man.



    Exactly because it's consumed you lol
    Yeah, it's true in other fields too, like I can still watch and enjoy Naked Gun even though OJ is in it, and I can still listen to Rock N Roll Part II even though Gary Glitter is scum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Yeah I'm wanting to be clear that I'm saying ah who cares he didn't kill anyone so let him keep driving under the influence! I'm just saying there's a little high horsing going on here from certain fans. Nothing about Jimmy Uso's personal life affects my opinion of his professional life. Stone Cold Steve Austin used to beat his wives, I still love Stone Cold. Don't really care for STeve Williams the man.

    Saying he needs help for multiple DUIs in a business where being on the road is part of the job isn't being on our high horse. He needs legit help while they (the WWE, Cena, and the Usos) laughed it off as a job a few days ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    Saying he needs help for multiple DUIs in a business where being on the road is part of the job isn't being on our high horse. He needs legit help while they (the WWE, Cena, and the Usos) laughed it off as a job a few days ago.
    When you come in acting like Capt Hindsight it's annoying. Again, show me the post where you took issue on Monday with what was said. Then we can talk about how it was in bad taste. Because nobody thought that until this morning and even that number of fan is pretty minimal.

    That is literally my only issue with anyone you have said about this incident. If you're in battling someone on the mic, all is fair in love and war. It was no different than Usos calling out Xavier Woods for the Paige porn. I don't know maybe you missed out on all the other times Cena dissed someone.

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    So I have to post it here for me to think it? Sorry next time I will run to the forums during raw to post it. Nobody thought that? show me the opinion of everything single wrestling fan before you can say nobody thought that. See how that works? Making fun of an arrest that involves being intoxicated and trying to fight cops on a show that kids watch is bad taste regardless of what you think. Now that he got arrested again, I am sure people are like well WWE found it funny, big deal.

    I find it hard to believe that you think that what Cena said wasn't scripted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    So I have to post it here for me to think it? Sorry next time I will run to the forums during raw to post it. Nobody thought that? show me the opinion of everything single wrestling fan before you can say nobody thought that. See how that works? Making fun of an arrest that involves being intoxicated and trying to fight cops on a show that kids watch is bad taste regardless of what you think. Now that he got arrested again, I am sure people are like well WWE found it funny, big deal.

    I find it hard to believe that you think that what Cena said wasn't scripted.
    Show me the part where I said John Cena was shooting from the hip and I'll show you all the posts from every single wrestling fan who commented about the diss on the Usos.

    One thing you have reminded me of is how miserable of a fan you are. "On a show that kids watch......" When I hear that I just puke in my mouth. Capt Hindsight on his high horse= @PurePlayer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    So what you're saying is, I shouldn't hate Chris Jericho with a passion because he said he would never work for any promotion in America besides Vince McMahon's, only to turn back on his word?
    Sami Zayn's love of Ska makes it really hard to be a fan of his. It's something I struggle with on a daily basis.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Yeah I'm wanting to be clear that I'm saying ah who cares he didn't kill anyone so let him keep driving under the influence! I'm just saying there's a little high horsing going on here from certain fans. Nothing about Jimmy Uso's personal life affects my opinion of his professional life. Stone Cold Steve Austin used to beat his wives, I still love Stone Cold. Don't really care for STeve Williams the man.
    I think we all have a threshold for how much bs we'll tolerate from our favs. When they cross that invisible line, it effects our ability to be their fan. Some of us just keep that line farther away than others. I accepted a long time ago that wrestlers do allot of fucked up things. If I stopped being a fan of a wrestler every time they got arrested or said something outrageous, I'd have no one left to follow. The business changes some and empowers others.

    The fact that there's been a clear pattern with Jimmy makes him stand out. Considering the gap between his first arrests and the recent ones, he must have dealt with his problem, but has fallen of the wagon for whatever reason. I'm interested to see if WWE addresses it at all. The segment with John Cena is going to give it more attention than it would otherwise, so that might force WWE's hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasori View Post
    Sami Zayn's love of Ska makes it really hard to be a fan of his. It's something I struggle with on a daily basis.



    I think we all have a threshold for how much bs we'll tolerate from our favs. When they cross that invisible line, it effects our ability to be their fan. Some of us just keep that line farther away than others. I accepted a long time ago that wrestlers do allot of fucked up things. If I stopped being a fan of a wrestler every time they got arrested or said something outrageous, I'd have no one left to follow. The business changes some and empowers others.

    The fact that there's been a clear pattern with Jimmy makes him stand out. Considering the gap between his first arrests and the recent ones, he must have dealt with his problem, but has fallen of the wagon for whatever reason. I'm interested to see if WWE addresses it at all. The segment with John Cena is going to give it more attention than it would otherwise, so that might force WWE's hand.
    I honestly believe the only people who are going to dwell on Cena's diss are people like us who at times are too deep in our fandom. We can't be the moral police and try to act like we know what's best or what makes a company look bad, etc.

    For all we know, Jimmy was barely over the legal limit. I'm giving the dude the benefit of the doubt. 3 DUI's in 10 years...with the last one almost 7 years ago. This could have simply been dude drank a little too much, thought he was fine and he wasn't. Thankfully nobody was hurt as the stats aren't exactly something to scoff at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    I honestly believe the only people who are going to dwell on Cena's diss are people like us who at times are too deep in our fandom. We can't be the moral police and try to act like we know what's best or what makes a company look bad, etc.

    For all we know, Jimmy was barely over the legal limit. I'm giving the dude the benefit of the doubt. 3 DUI's in 10 years...with the last one almost 7 years ago. This could have simply been dude drank a little too much, thought he was fine and he wasn't. Thankfully nobody was hurt as the stats aren't exactly something to scoff at.
    He was just arrested for intoxication a few months ago as well. Drinking and driving regardless of what his legal limit was is serious. You saying oppps no big deal is kind of odd to me. 3 DUI's and an arrest just months ago. But yeah benefit of the doubt lol

    But keep living on the miserable fan thing. This has nothing to do with being a fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Show me the part where I said John Cena was shooting from the hip and I'll show you all the posts from every single wrestling fan who commented about the diss on the Usos.

    One thing you have reminded me of is how miserable of a fan you are. "On a show that kids watch......" When I hear that I just puke in my mouth. Capt Hindsight on his high horse= @PurePlayer
    Getting arrested for a DUI is real life and making fun of it on air is real life. I am not talking about a storyline here chief. They can run all the risky storylines they want which I would love but real life stuff is a bit different. Not even sure what your point is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    He was just arrested for intoxication a few months ago as well. Drinking and driving regardless of what his legal limit was is serious. You saying oppps no big deal is kind of odd to me. 3 DUI's and an arrest just months ago. But yeah benefit of the doubt lol

    But keep living on the miserable fan thing. This has nothing to do with being a fan.
    Yep, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt because I'm not here to judge without being there and experiencing what exactly happened. I'm definitely not going to come in here talking about the PR nightmare the John Cena diss supposedly is going to bring like you're assuming suggesting it was all in poor taste blah blah blah. I will put your money on it when he dissed the Usos you weren't going "Oh fuck there goes WWE stock!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Yep, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt because I'm not here to judge without being there and experiencing what exactly happened. I'm definitely not going to come in here talking about the PR nightmare the John Cena diss supposedly is going to bring like you're assuming suggesting it was all in poor taste blah blah blah. I will put your money on it when he dissed the Usos you weren't going "Oh fuck there goes WWE stock!"
    LOL ok ND. You knew exactly what I was thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    Getting arrested for a DUI is real life and making fun of it on air is real life. I am not talking about a storyline here chief. They can run all the risky storylines they want which I would love but real life stuff is a bit different. Not even sure what your point is.
    My point is that when John Cena is tasked to essentially diss these fools battle rap style, real life shit gets brought in as ammo. Regardless if it's something the kids might hear.

    Motherfucker they're bringing children to watch simulated violence and sometimes those kids go home and kill their little sister attempting a tombstone. So should the WWE just go out and hug each other for 3 hours every Monday on Raw? Again, the Capt Hindsight on a high horse routine=corny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    LOL ok ND. You knew exactly what I was thinking
    If you were thinking anything beyond "Damn that was a cold line" then you need to remember you're just a wrestling fan.

    Were you this soft when Samoa Joe shit on Jeff Hardy's issues or when Orton got called out for his past by Styles? Doubt it. Samoa Joe clowned Jeff's history and then a week or so ago Jeff was arrested again....I guess that's why Joe is a jabroni jobber now because the WWE were worried what those comments might do.

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    If you don't want to be the moral police because you sin so much yourself, that's entirely up to you.

    I am a fan of the Uso's, but I am not a fan of anyone's DUI. I don't mind being called anything for saying this.

    I think it was in poor taste for Cena to mock them for this, and for WWE to allow it, and for me and others to enjoy it when we saw it. Is it fair to say it came back to bite them without pointing three fingers back at myself?

    Somehow, I get the impression that it wasn't really Jimmy that was driving. It really must have been Rikishi - who did it for da Rock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    My point is that when John Cena is tasked to essentially diss these fools battle rap style, real life shit gets brought in as ammo. Regardless if it's something the kids might here.

    Motherfucker they're bringing children to watch simulated violence and sometimes those kids go home and kill their little sister attempting a tombstone. So should the WWE just go out and hug each other for 3 hours every Monday on Raw? Again, the Capt Hindsight on a high horse routine=corny.
    The diss is one thing (still odd) but for the Usos and the announcers to just laugh it off as a joke is even worse. A diss like that should be taken like a diss and not a joke. It was just a bad look especially when it's pretty clear they have a drinking problem. It's not hindsight but the dudes have MULTIPLE arrests for the same thing. it was wrong when it was said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post

    If you were thinking anything beyond "Damn that was a cold line" then you need to remember you're just a wrestling fan.

    Were you this soft when Samoa Joe shit on Jeff Hardy's issues or when Orton got called out for his past by Styles? Doubt it. Samoa Joe clowned Jeff's history and then a week or so ago Jeff was arrested again....I guess that's why Joe is a jabroni jobber now because the WWE were worried what those comments might do.
    Did Joe and Orton stand there and laugh like kids and jump up and down? It's not just the statement, it's the reaction of it. It was made to look like a funny joke that's no big deal. the delivery of those other lines were serious, not joking, and taken as a legit shot at the other person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puppies View Post
    If you don't want to be the moral police because you sin so much yourself, that's entirely up to you.

    I am a fan of the Uso's, but I am not a fan of anyone's DUI. I don't mind being called anything for saying this.

    I think it was in poor taste for Cena to mock them for this, and for WWE to allow it, and for me and others to enjoy it when we saw it. Is it fair to say it came back to bite them without pointing three fingers back at myself?

    Somehow, I get the impression that it wasn't really Jimmy that was driving. It really must have been Rikishi - who did it for da Rock.
    For Da rock brutha!! lol.

    Don't feel bad for enjoying something that was a cold diss. Fuck man we need to hang out sometime. You feel bad way too often for shit that happens to non-white people lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    The diss is one thing (still odd) but for the Usos and the announcers to just laugh it off as a joke is even worse. A diss like that should be taken like a diss and not a joke. It was just a bad look especially when it's pretty clear they have a drinking problem. It's not hindsight but the dudes have MULTIPLE arrests for the same thing. it was wrong when it was said.
    The Usos weren't exactly pissing themselves when he said it. It was more like "Haha ok John you got us you went for the jugular" and again, I'm sure that line was definitely approved to be said by everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    Did Joe and Orton stand there and laugh like kids and jump up and down? It's not just the statement, it's the reaction of it. It was made to look like a funny joke that's no big deal. the delivery of those other lines were serious, not joking, and taken as a legit shot at the other person.
    Nope and neither did The Usos. You're exaggerating their response.

    And with Joe and Hardy....We're supposed to cheer Hardy right? We're supposed to cheer a guy who's fucked up more often than I care to count...So it's all context? You don't mind cheering a drug addict with a serious alcohol issue? Or is it simply because it wasn't the same context as Cena retorting?

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    As someone who can sadly speak from experience, Jimmy needs help pronto. One time should be enough to enlighten you. If this is his 3rd he will be doing some jail time plus he should be losing is license for life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virmicious View Post
    As someone who can sadly speak from experience, Jimmy needs help pronto. One time should be enough to enlighten you. If this is his 3rd he will be doing some jail time plus he should be losing is license for life.
    nah it's no big deal man. get off your high horse

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    Don't think I'd ever get on a high horse, I don't trust them sober let along high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Don't think I'd ever get on a high horse, I don't trust them sober let along high.

    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Donald again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virmicious View Post
    As someone who can sadly speak from experience, Jimmy needs help pronto. One time should be enough to enlighten you. If this is his 3rd he will be doing some jail time plus he should be losing is license for life.
    One of my best friends did 4 days in jail after her 3rd DUI but lost her license for 5 years. So I doubt he's going to lose his license for life. I also think after X amount of years they drop off. So the one from 2011 and 2013 might not even be a factor in all of this.



    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    nah it's no big deal man. get off your high horse
    See below.

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    Don't think I'd ever get on a high horse, I don't trust them sober let along high.
    Brilliant.

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    https://wrestletalk.com/news/further...arrest-emerge/

    From whatever angle you want to approach this, WWE has to take action.

    Whether it's rehab or termination, up to them. But he's going to kill somebody unless something changes and if they haven't tried to do anything about it, they will be in for a well deserved shitstorm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP View Post
    https://wrestletalk.com/news/further...arrest-emerge/

    From whatever angle you want to approach this, WWE has to take action.

    Whether it's rehab or termination, up to them. But he's going to kill somebody unless something changes and if they haven't tried to do anything about it, they will be in for a well deserved shitstorm.
    How is any of this on the WWE? Did Jimmy drive drunk through the crowd at Extreme Rules per Vince's request and kill a bunch of fans?

    I think best case scenario they offer to put him in a 30-day treatment center and hopefully he'll attend AA meetings.

    Termination is ridiculous. But that's what a lot of people want to see happen to other people. We have this weird shit in our DNA that gets us aroused at the thought of people losing their livelihoods so we can go "I'm better than you because I didn't do THAT" 3 DUI's in 10 years, with his last being 6-7 years ago, sounds like a lot but in those 3 times nobody was hurt, no property was damaged.

    You can play the "But someone could have been" card but you could do that when thinking about how many times you looked down at your phone or texted or you yourself were fucked up beyond repair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    How is any of this on the WWE? Did Jimmy drive drunk through the crowd at Extreme Rules per Vince's request and kill a bunch of fans?

    I think best case scenario they offer to put him in a 30-day treatment center and hopefully he'll attend AA meetings.

    Termination is ridiculous. But that's what a lot of people want to see happen to other people. We have this weird shit in our DNA that gets us aroused at the thought of people losing their livelihoods so we can go "I'm better than you because I didn't do THAT" 3 DUI's in 10 years, with his last being 6-7 years ago, sounds like a lot but in those 3 times nobody was hurt, no property was damaged.

    You can play the "But someone could have been" card but you could do that when thinking about how many times you looked down at your phone or texted or you yourself were fucked up beyond repair.
    It is on WWE to do something about it and it includes rehab or something because that's their employee! He represents their company. This is not his first offense. Not sure what your obsession is with making it less of an issue than it is. All anyone is saying is for the guy to get help because he absolutely needs it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    How is any of this on the WWE?
    Pretty standard contract fare. You're responsible for how your actions reflect on the company, especially in instances including the law.

    Termination for Drink Driving is common place.

    If they don't take action of some kind and he hurts himself or somebody else then they are leaving themselves vulnerable. That's not something they do often, nor should it be.

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    Everything is a conspiracy or argument with Nash, He can never take anyone/thing at face value or as being genuine, It's weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    It is on WWE to do something about it and it includes rehab or something because that's their employee! He represents their company. This is not his first offense. Not sure what your obsession is with making it less of an issue than it is. All anyone is saying is for the guy to get help because he absolutely needs it.
    Right but he's a grown ass man and it's not on the WWE to hold his hand. I would bet if in the past they didn't, they definitely are now with it being his 3rd DUI plus the incident in Detroit back in January with Naomi and the cops.

    There's no obsession. I'm just not going to put this dude in a box without knowing the full extent of his drinking. 3 DUI's in 10 years doesn't mean he's Frank Gallagher from Shameless waking up in Mexico not knowing how he got there. He's not my aunt waking up naked in her lawn after drinking a 2 5th's of vodka in the parking lot of her job 2 cities away.

    Then people trying to make this thing about the WWE and how they have egg on their face because of Cena's rap diss on them like they should have hired a clairvoyant to proof read everything before it gets on t.v. just in case. So yeah, forgive me for giving someone the benefit of the doubt. I would do the same for you and anyone else if you were in this exact same situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Griffin View Post
    Everything is a conspiracy or argument with Nash, He can never take anyone/thing at face value or as being genuine, It's weird.
    Not even true. But unlike some I don't accept what fits MY personal narrative as the facts. So you for example, if you're looking for something that makes Donald Trump look like an asshole, you'll re-tweet it or post it here on the boards without even fact checking. Because it fits YOUR personal opinion.

    It'd be like if I just assumed you were just a lazy fuck who liked living off his mother's tit well into his 30's. "Oh PG's using that "I have anxiety issues" excuse when he really just needs to man up and get a place of his own"

    See how that works?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP View Post
    Pretty standard contract fare. You're responsible for how your actions reflect on the company, especially in instances including the law.

    Termination for Drink Driving is common place.

    If they don't take action of some kind and he hurts himself or somebody else then they are leaving themselves vulnerable. That's not something they do often, nor should it be.
    Is it commonplace? Who was the last pro wrestler to get fired for something like this? This a company who literally goes out of their way for people, some that worked maybe a month for them, to get them the help they need. Let's pump the brakes.

    They'll get blamed for it anyway. WWE is responsible for Chris Benoit, they're responsible for Hercules, they're responsible for shit that happened in companies that never had an association with them. Jimmy Uso gets his 3rd DUI in 10 years, WWE must not have done anything to cure him of his disease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Is it commonplace? Who was the last pro wrestler to get fired for something like this? This a company who literally goes out of their way for people, some that worked maybe a month for them, to get them the help they need. Let's pump the brakes.

    They'll get blamed for it anyway. WWE is responsible for Chris Benoit, they're responsible for Hercules, they're responsible for shit that happened in companies that never had an association with them. Jimmy Uso gets his 3rd DUI in 10 years, WWE must not have done anything to cure him of his disease.
    If anything, we should blame the alcohol companies for providing him with the drink, and the car company for making the vehicle. Without those he'd never have gotten a DUI. We could also blame Rikishi and his sperm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Is it commonplace? Who was the last pro wrestler to get fired for something like this? This a company who literally goes out of their way for people, some that worked maybe a month for them, to get them the help they need. Let's pump the brakes.

    They'll get blamed for it anyway. WWE is responsible for Chris Benoit, they're responsible for Hercules, they're responsible for shit that happened in companies that never had an association with them. Jimmy Uso gets his 3rd DUI in 10 years, WWE must not have done anything to cure him of his disease.
    How about him trying to fight a cop and being drunk a couple months back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    If anything, we should blame the alcohol companies for providing him with the drink, and the car company for making the vehicle. Without those he'd never have gotten a DUI. We could also blame Rikishi and his sperm.
    We already blamed Rikishi earlier for having his son do it for The Rock.

    Shit, IMO, if we weren't so fucking dependent on alcohol consumption, it should be treated as the worst possible drug you could get your hands on. It's ruined more lives and taken more lives than anything other maybe cigarettes which is another issue in itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    How about him trying to fight a cop and being drunk a couple months back?
    I've included that in my posts. If you go to my response to your last post prior to this I spoke in depth about why I'm feeling the way I am toward Jimmy. There are levels to addiction. And not every single situation is the exact same which is why I don't jump to conclusions and label everyone the same.

    I literally said this in response to you:

    I would bet if in the past they didn't, they definitely are now with it being his 3rd DUI plus the incident in Detroit back in January with Naomi and the cops.

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    When I brought up Rikishi - whom I love dearly - I was partly wondering if his simple presence backstage with the Raw reunion show helped bring out Jimmy's relapse. I can't claim to understand their family dynamics, but I have seen plenty of families where the simple fact that they get together will sometimes trigger a need for, or an abuse of excessive alcohol. Family members can bring out the best in us as well as the worst. This is of course pure speculation on my end.

    But as much as I think the Uso's are one of the best tag teams EVER and I want to see them hold the titles again, I would much rather see Jimmy take some time off to get help and figure things out, than have him relapse again.

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    Legally, I’m not sure how it would work in this situation in the US because the stars are technically independent contractors plus this happened outside the workplace.

    They should definitely be morally obligated to help Jimmy though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puppies View Post
    When I brought up Rikishi - whom I love dearly - I was partly wondering if his simple presence backstage with the Raw reunion show helped bring out Jimmy's relapse. I can't claim to understand their family dynamics, but I have seen plenty of families where the simple fact that they get together will sometimes trigger a need for, or an abuse of excessive alcohol. Family members can bring out the best in us as well as the worst. This is of course pure speculation on my end.

    But as much as I think the Uso's are one of the best tag teams EVER and I want to see them hold the titles again, I would much rather see Jimmy take some time off to get help and figure things out, than have him relapse again.
    His relapse?

    That would imply that we have knowledge that he had been clean/sober for awhile and fell off the wagon. I mean what you're implying is an incredible reach we should check the wingspan. Jesus Christ man lol. We're not talking about Scott Hall here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Legally, I’m not sure how it would work in this situation in the US because the stars are technically independent contractors plus this happened outside the workplace.

    They should definitely be morally obligated to help Jimmy though.
    I have no doubt with how close his family is with the McMahons that if he wanted it they would help him out 100%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    I have no doubt with how close his family is with the McMahons that if he wanted it they would help him out 100%.
    That’s true. A lot of it is down to the person themselves to seek help with alcoholism. The first DUI should have been a wake-up call for him but he is probably bogged down very deep in denial.

    We can only hope he eventually sees the light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    That’s true. A lot of it is down to the person themselves to seek help with alcoholism. The first DUI should have been a wake-up call for him but he is probably bogged down very deep in denial.

    We can only hope he eventually sees the light.
    For all we know, after the 2nd one he did try to better himself. The 2nd one was over 6 years ago. That's a pretty huge gap between then and the Detroit situation in January and then the DUI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    For all we know, after the 2nd one he did try to better himself. The 2nd one was over 6 years ago. That's a pretty huge gap between then and the Detroit situation in January and then the DUI.
    True, however Jey was banged up 5 months ago for getting out the car and squaring up to officers. I know that’s not quite the same thing but again should have been a wake-up call to both the Uso brothers. Then there was Cena’s promo which was probably approved by all but it’s weird how it happened to Jimmy right after that. There’s only so much sympathy can stretch for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    True, however Jey was banged up 5 months ago for getting out the car and squaring up to officers. I know that’s not quite the same thing but again should have been a wake-up call to both the Uso brothers. Then there was Cena’s promo which was probably approved by all but it’s weird how it happened to Jimmy right after that. There’s only so much sympathy can stretch for them.
    The Detroit situation with JIMMY is the cop situation, not Jey. Jey was something else.

    And people need to let go of the Cena promo. It's like those people who will go back and say the limo explosion angle with Vince was in poor taste, not because it was dumb, but because of Benoit killing his family the following weekend.

    I don't have any SYMPATHY but I do have empathy because it's easy for us as a fans and outsiders to a situation to judge these people because of who they are to us.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    The Detroit situation with JIMMY is the cop situation, not Jey. Jey was something else.

    And people need to let go of the Cena promo. It's like those people who will go back and say the limo explosion angle with Vince was in poor taste, not because it was dumb, but because of Benoit killing his family the following weekend.

    I don't have any SYMPATHY but I do have empathy because it's easy for us as a fans and outsiders to a situation to judge these people because of who they are to us.....
    I know the Jey thing was different but it’s another brush-in with the law and I’m not blaming the WWE at all for it because they are grown-up men with responsibilities and we don’t know all that’s going on with them. Just commenting that the timing with the promo then that happening was weird. Who knows what is going on in a person’s head behind the camera? I still have some empathy and relapse can happen and it’s a tough schedule which is no doubt draining on them. All we can do is hope they see the light for good.

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    Whichever one is really named Joshua is probably glad his stage name is different because Joshua is a terrible name, up there with Matthew, Chad, and Keith as worst names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    I know the Jey thing was different but it’s another brush-in with the law and I’m not blaming the WWE at all for it because they are grown-up men with responsibilities and we don’t know all that’s going on with them. Just commenting that the timing with the promo then that happening was weird. Who knows what is going on in a person’s head behind the camera? I still have some empathy and relapse can happen and it’s a tough schedule which is no doubt draining on them. All we can do is hope they see the light for good.
    Right I was just correcting you that it wasn't Jey who had the run in the police earlier in the year it was Jimmy. Jey has nothing to do with any of this conversation.

    What relapse?

    Honest question and as I said yesterday I don't drink so I have no dog in this fight when it comes to this question but....

    If you get a DUI, should you give up drinking? Is that enough of a sign that you should give up drinking completely? Because some can tolerate and function on alcohol better than others. You give me 2-3 beers, that'd be like Jeff Hardy on a case of beer whereas 2-3 beers to Jeff is like giving him apple juice.

    But I'm being serious....and I don't care if you work for a big company like the WWE or are homeless, should you quit drinking after your first DUI? Or really anything that involves you drinking and the law being broken as a result....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Right I was just correcting you that it wasn't Jey who had the run in the police earlier in the year it was Jimmy. Jey has nothing to do with any of this conversation.

    What relapse?

    Honest question and as I said yesterday I don't drink so I have no dog in this fight when it comes to this question but....

    If you get a DUI, should you give up drinking? Is that enough of a sign that you should give up drinking completely? Because some can tolerate and function on alcohol better than others. You give me 2-3 beers, that's probably the equivalent of giving Jeff Hardy a glass of apple juice. He could probably bang out a case of beer and THAT is what fucks him up.

    But I'm being serious....and I don't care if you work for a big company like the WWE or are homeless, should you quit drinking after your first DUI? Or really anything that involves you drinking and the law being broken as a result....
    6 year stretch between incidents for Jimmy is a relapse no matter the time difference and it is his third offence.

    I wasn’t suggesting he be teetotal but don’t get behind the wheel if you’ve had a drink. Simple as.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Right I was just correcting you that it wasn't Jey who had the run in the police earlier in the year it was Jimmy. Jey has nothing to do with any of this conversation.

    What relapse?

    Honest question and as I said yesterday I don't drink so I have no dog in this fight when it comes to this question but....

    If you get a DUI, should you give up drinking? Is that enough of a sign that you should give up drinking completely? Because some can tolerate and function on alcohol better than others. You give me 2-3 beers, that'd be like Jeff Hardy on a case of beer whereas 2-3 beers to Jeff is like giving him apple juice.

    But I'm being serious....and I don't care if you work for a big company like the WWE or are homeless, should you quit drinking after your first DUI? Or really anything that involves you drinking and the law being broken as a result....
    Why are you saying first DUI? The answer would be no but I won’t drive after drinking even if it’s one beer. This is his 3rd one and another arrest while drinking. So yeah he should get help for it and he certainly shouldn’t be driving anymore.

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    As someone who doesn't drink, it's easy for me to say yes, people who have a DUI should quit drinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    If you get a DUI, should you give up drinking? Is that enough of a sign that you should give up drinking completely? Because some can tolerate and function on alcohol better than others. You give me 2-3 beers, that'd be like Jeff Hardy on a case of beer whereas 2-3 beers to Jeff is like giving him apple juice.
    If I got a DUI, I wouldn't give up drinking, I'd just go about it differently. I would make sure there was a designated driver, or Lyft to wherever I needed to go. But really, I don't need a DUI to make sure of that.

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    There's certainly an amount of hubris or stupidity (depending on how you look at it) when it comes to getting DUIs right now. There's just way too many alternatives to having to drink while impaired.

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    It's multiple times getting caught drunk behind the wheel. Which would indicate to me that it's a much frequent occurance. Hubris indeed.
    These are folks who are on the road 300+ days of the year, driving town to town in many cases. Aside from their time in a gym and in the ring, they spend long hours on the road driving. They even feature a series on their network showcasing that fact.
    I won't retroactively fault the Cena Rap Diss from the other night, but going forward the company might stress to their employees that their ability to get to/from work could be inpaired by their choices. Many organizations do offer Substance Abuse counseling, whether for hard drug usage or alcohol related issues.

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    I drove to a bar once, with the intention of walking home afterwards, but it turns out it was freezing when we left the bar, and being drunk I made the wrong decision and drove home, luckily I didn't hurt anyone but I wish I had gotten pulled over cause I certainly deserved it. Ever since that day I don't really drink that much anymore and if I do it's at home. It's such an embarassing thing for me to ever have done something like that that I often hate myself. I suppose if they had Uber or Lyft back then I would have goten one home

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    My mother drove drunk round to the shops about 20 years ago which was round the corner from us. She wasn’t pulled over from the road but was swaying about the aisles with her trolley enough for the shop to alert the police who came round to breathalyse then arrest her where she got banned from driving for 4 years (she had one prior offense according to family but I was very young and details are sketchy) Anyway, it was pretty traumatic watching her get pulled away from our house. That was enough for me back then never to mix drinking and driving ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePlayer View Post
    Why are you saying first DUI? The answer would be no but I won’t drive after drinking even if it’s one beer. This is his 3rd one and another arrest while drinking. So yeah he should get help for it and he certainly shouldn’t be driving anymore.
    Well because I would think after your 2nd when the shit starts getting real serious and 3rd could be even worse, you might be re-thinking your position on the bottle without question but idk......

    So what I'm asking is, do people who drink, would you give it up after you 1st DUI? When does a DUI become "you have a drinking problem" in your mind? When it has something to do with you getting caught?

    I mean, we just heard Donald say he drove home drunk. Why didn't he turn himself in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    One of my best friends did 4 days in jail after her 3rd DUI but lost her license for 5 years. So I doubt he's going to lose his license for life. I also think after X amount of years they drop off. So the one from 2011 and 2013 might not even be a factor in all of this.





    See below.



    Brilliant.
    Only going by my state but they don't drop off the record here for at least 8 years so one may be gone BUT if you are a repeat offender old ones will come back to haunt so. Considering he got one 2 years later his first one may stick around longer. Also 3 DUI's in Illinois is lights out.

    Edit: ok so bit wrong here. Illinois adds up dui no matter how long they have been. 3rd one is 5 to 7 years in prison and license is gone for 10 years. Now I'm curious about Florida.
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    I thought FL had mandatory 30 days in jail for 3rd offense within a 10 year timeframe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Well because I would think after your 2nd when the shit starts getting real serious and 3rd could be even worse, you might be re-thinking your position on the bottle without question but idk......

    So what I'm asking is, do people who drink, would you give it up after you 1st DUI? When does a DUI become "you have a drinking problem" in your mind? When it has something to do with you getting caught?

    I mean, we just heard Donald say he drove home drunk. Why didn't he turn himself in?
    The question over whether Donald turned himself in or not is only he himself can answer. However I think it is ultimately irrelevant. He shared a personal story to make a point. He likes a drink but knows the consequences now for driving if he did so. I think the take home message is that one experience is he learned not to do it again and he adapted. @Donald be proud of yourself for doing the right thing after that.

    Donald realised in one without brushing with the law comparing with Jimmy who’s had three turns.
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    Just wanted to pop in and say, am I the only one who absolutely loves what they're doing with Chad Gable right now? The dude is the Charlie Haas style "no bullshit wrestler who can tie you into a pretzel" WWE's always wanted. I just wish they hadn't made him cut his hair. He looks like kind of a generic Create-A-Wrestler with the short hair.

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    Really good, Near hour long interview with Cass about his depression/issues and more. Have it on in the background if you get time, Worth a listen.

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    WTF is this?

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