The Marvel Cinematic Universe films

[virms]

There's no 'problem' I have with Jackman playing Wolverine. I just thought it was curious that he'd commit to coming back after 'Logan', plus all of the other factors going into to bringing him back and how they'd handle the character going forth in the MCU, whether he wants to stick around or if/when they eventually recast.

I'd almost believe these two have probably shared ideas on things they'd like to do ever since deadpool became a real thing. Jackman was very adamant he was happy how they ended wolverines run. This tells me that whatever they have discussed behind closed doors Jackman is 100% with knowing it won't tarnish the legacy of the character.

It's also fitting to note that the release date of this film will coincide with the 50th anniversary of wolverines first appearance in marvel comics. Also crazy to note Jackman's wolverine will hit his 24th year as playing the character.

[Nash Diesel]

That's actually pretty cool.

I'm actually more surprised how hard people have been on these X-Men movies for not casing someone who is more comic book accurate in terms of height. Wolverine is like 5'3" in the comics. Would he have gotten over to the extent he has if the character was played by fuckin Tom Cruise (I don't know too many super short actors).

[Fro]

A couple new tidbits of news:

1. Now there's a report that the Blade script is being completely re-written from scratch. This isn't confirmed but it's from a fairly reputable scoop website:

According to The Direct's sources, writer Beau DeMayo is leading Marvel Studios' efforts to overhaul the movie, starting from scratch and writing a script that is essentially entirely new. DeMayo's work as a writer on Moon Knight and especially as a head writer on X-Men '97 impressed Kevin Feige and other studio executives, leading them to hand over the reins to DeMayo to rebuild Blade's story from the ground up following Osei-Kuffour's work.

If true, I would expect the production and release to get pushed back.

2. Armor Wars starring Don Cheadle is now reportedly going to be a movie instead of a Disney+ show. Personally I don't think this character (War Machine) is movie-worthy so ehhhh I'm not sure about this decision. Some people are speculating that RDJ will return (hence why they're making it a movie) but I think that's optimistic fan-wishing. I would bet against RDJ coming back.

[Nash Diesel]

A couple new tidbits of news:

1. Now there's a report that the Blade script is being completely re-written from scratch. This isn't confirmed but it's from a fairly reputable scoop website:



If true, I would expect the production and release to get pushed back.

2. Armor Wars starring Don Cheadle is now reportedly going to be a movie instead of a Disney+ show. Personally I don't think this character (War Machine) is movie-worthy so ehhhh I'm not sure about this decision. Some people are speculating that RDJ will return (hence why they're making it a movie) but I think that's optimistic fan-wishing. I would bet against RDJ coming back.

As far as Blade goes....the first 2 movies were great. But Trinity and the FX series really lacked. Personally I'd rather seeing something like Spirits of Vengeance instead of a non-Snipes Blade movie.

Armor Wars will probably be stacked with others so I can see why a movie would work. Personally I'd rather see a 2 hour movie than 6-10 episode series. Sounds like it would be better suited for the big screen.

[virms]

With as much chi that will be involved with armor wars it's makes sense alone for it to be a movie. The TV shows have been hit or miss as I'm assuming their budget is much smaller.

[Fro]

White Vision and Sam Rockwell’s character from Iron Man 2 (I forget the character name) are reportedly in Armor Wars.

[Nash Diesel]

I just don't think we needed a mini-series for this UNLESS RDJ was part of each one. Outside of that it seems like the big screen is the best place to enjoy this one.

[Fro]

I just don't think we needed a mini-series for this UNLESS RDJ was part of each one. Outside of that it seems like the big screen is the best place to enjoy this one.

I agree with you in spirit and/or in a vacuum. I think D+ MCU shows are best used for shows designed to be episodic. WandaVision was episodic for most of its run, literally fashioned after sitcoms. She-Hulk is similarly episodic with a conflict-of-the-week format and short episodes. Contrast this to Hawkeye which to me was more like a low-level MCU movie that they split into 6 episodes, and wasn't very good IMO. Maybe Hawkeye would have been better as a shorter movie. And Armor Wars seems like the same type of thing - low level Avenger getting their own action story. So I agree a movie is a better format for this project.

Except... there are limited movie slots and Feige is already packing them to the brim, scheduling 4 movies per year in 2021, 2023 and 2024 (in 2022 we got off light with just 3). There are so many projects in development. Does Armor Wars need to take one of those slots? Is it movie-worthy given how many other things are being worked on, and are we still going to care about Don Cheadle's War Hammer in 2025 when this movie might come out? Idk. If the script is great, then sure. But they seem to be getting ahead of themselves by scheduling movies without a solid script (see: Blade).

[Nash Diesel]

I agree with you in spirit and/or in a vacuum. I think D+ MCU shows are best used for shows designed to be episodic. WandaVision was episodic for most of its run, literally fashioned after sitcoms. She-Hulk is similarly episodic with a conflict-of-the-week format and short episodes. Contrast this to Hawkeye which to me was more like a low-level MCU movie that they split into 6 episodes, and wasn't very good IMO. Maybe Hawkeye would have been better as a shorter movie. And Armor Wars seems like the same type of thing - low level Avenger getting their own action story. So I agree a movie is a better format for this project.

Except... there are limited movie slots and Feige is already packing them to the brim, scheduling 4 movies per year in 2021, 2023 and 2024 (in 2022 we got off light with just 3). There are so many projects in development. Does Armor Wars need to take one of those slots? Is it movie-worthy given how many other things are being worked on, and are we still going to care about Don Cheadle's War Hammer in 2025 when this movie might come out? Idk. If the script is great, then sure. But they seem to be getting ahead of themselves by scheduling movies without a solid script (see: Blade).

Blade isn't the norm though. We haven't heard about any issues similar to Blade with the majority of the MCU movies.

I'm not too negative on the amount of movies because I'm a huge fan of comic book movies. I do think it's movie worthy because personally I think we're getting too many of these random Disney+ shows that may or may not pay off down the road. I get the mainstays like Falcon, Hawkeye, etc but now we're getting all these B/C-level characters with their own 6-10 episode shows. A lot of them feel so stretched out and you wonder, what if this was a movie? Armor Wars seems like it's going to be something you want to see on the big screen, nonstop action that won't feel the same sitting at home. Plus, if they get RDJ part of this shit it'll be insane.

[Morrison]

I'd almost believe these two have probably shared ideas on things they'd like to do ever since deadpool became a real thing. Jackman was very adamant he was happy how they ended wolverines run. This tells me that whatever they have discussed behind closed doors Jackman is 100% with knowing it won't tarnish the legacy of the character.

It's also fitting to note that the release date of this film will coincide with the 50th anniversary of wolverines first appearance in marvel comics. Also crazy to note Jackman's wolverine will hit his 24th year as playing the character.

you just know once the MCU found it's footing and really established itself as a lasting project that jackman would have loved to be involved in it as wolverine, bouncing off those other characters. i feel like he might have said as much in interviews in the late 2000's up until logan released. thing was, it was only ever a pipe dream until basically 2018 when it looked like the disney acquisition of fox was going to go through. everything before that was fan fiction, and hugh had just decided to hang up the claws on his take of the character a year and a half prior to the floodgates opening and wolverine in the MCU actually being doable. i feel like if you told him before filming logan that in the next five years disney will get the rights to the x-men and can introduce them into the MCU, there might not have been much emphasis on it being his last time playing the role. age was definitely a factor, but i also think there might not have been much else to do with that incarnation of the character given how fox was moving the x-men movies younger and recasting roles. probably seemed like as good a time to move on as any other. but getting a chance to be a part of the MCU as the character has to be like a gift on christmas morning. his involvement, i think, bodes well for whatever plans they have moving forward, whether that's just this deadpool film or others. but i also think he was probably just as eager to get this chance as marvel was to have him.

with all the multiverse stuff, them using jackman and then recasting the part works fine with me. if it's a one off, it can work like the garfield and maguire spidermen in no way home. if his involvement is more extensive, they can weave it through the multiverse plot. old man logan showing up and taking out a child trafficker in battleworld would be awesome. secret wars would be an end befitting the character jackman has embodied for 20+ years, and if those estimates kevin feige threw out there hold up(fat chance), would only be about a three year commitment.

[Nash Diesel]

Who doesn't want to see Old Man Logan and blind Hawkeye going crosscountry to take out the likes of Hulk and his offspring of cousin brothers and Dr Doom for some reason ruling Des Moines, IA?? LOVE the Old Man Logan stuff that I've read, very over the top. I also like the book Deadpool kills the Marvel Universe that would be a disturbing movie.

[Fro]

I don't think it's been mentioned in here...

Harrison Ford officially will be taking over the role of General Thaddeus “Thunderbolt” Ross, beginning with Phase 5 title Captain America: New World Order. Ford assumes the role played by Oscar winner William Hurt in films ranging from 2008’s The Incredible Hulk through 2021’s Black Widow, prior to his death in March at 71.

I'm not a comic reader so I would have been fine if they just dropped Ross's character from the movies and had the team name themselves after him following an off-screen death. But obviously, he is probably integral to the story somehow. I think Harrison Ford is as good a replacement as we could have hoped for, though he himself is very old (aged 80) so hopefully they don't need him for many (or any) movies after New World Order and Thunderbolts.

I'm personally much more excited for Thunderbolts than New World Order.

[Nash Diesel]

Thunderbolts looks pretty cool. I'm a huge fan of Winter Solider and anything he's part of in the movies I'm always down to check out.

New World Order will be interesting. I haven't read up on either of these movies in terms of what they will be about but I am excited to see the direction of Captain America.

[Fro]

great trailer. I'm psyched for this one. it's my #1 most psyched-for out of the next 4 (Wakanda, Ant Man, Guardians 3, The Marvels).

[Fro]

poster spoiled for size

[VHS]

Plot: Being a super hero is fun. Ant Man's daughter makes a thing that takes them into the greenscreen world where they run around.

[Nash Diesel]

Sounds awesome we'll be sure to wait for your detailed review.

[VHS]

Sounds awesome we'll be sure to wait for your detailed review.

[Jarrod1983]

Another classic Thor adventure trick or treating with Maverick tonight.

[Mazer]

great trailer. I'm psyched for this one. it's my #1 most psyched-for out of the next 4 (Wakanda, Ant Man, Guardians 3, The Marvels).

More than Guardians 3?

[Fro]

More than Guardians 3?

Yea. Now maybe that's biased since Ant Man is coming out sooner and we have a trailer, plus we're getting the Guardians Xmas Special, plus I just saw a little bit of Guardians in Love & Thunder so that group has been around lately. I don't know what Guardians 3 will be about, but winning back Gamora feels like worn territory. I'm excited for Kang as the villain in Ant Man. But to your point, James Gunn is certainly a more trustworthy filmmaker than Peyton Reed, even though I very much enjoyed Ant Man 1, and Ant Man 2 wasn't bad. Guardians is probably the betting favorite to be the better movie, but I'm hopeful they can pull off a good one with Quantamania. I like the core Ant-Man cast a lot (mainly referring to Rudd, Lily and Douglas).

[Fro]

I finally watched Love & Thunder. It was fine, but certainly a let-down after Ragnarok which was a top 3 MCU movie for me. I enjoyed much of the comedy in Love & Thunder and was laughing a good bit. Hemsworth, Thompson and Taika as Korg are a good comedy trio. Portman's arc felt a little rough around the edges, both from a writing and acting perspective. Bale was solid but his character could have been fleshed out better. The trip to see Zeus fell flat for me - I thought they could have removed that whole part or shortened it and given Gorr more time. Maybe I wasn't paying enough attention but I didn't really understand the Eternity realm. If I have time I'll watch a youtube breakdown video of the whole movie to better understand all the stuff that was going on in regard to Omnipotence City, Eternity and Valhalla.

[Jarrod1983]

I didn't mind Love and Thunder but I might be enjoying it because my little one is all about Thor for some reason. I even took him to the theater figuring we might have to leave during the movie because he'd get antsy. Maverick sat right there and watched the whole thing, no fuss.

I definitely would have taken more time with Gorr. Thought Bale did excellent.

[virms]

Bale nailed it as gorr for me. I wouldn't be mad at a gorr the God butcher prequel. Him just mowing down the gods.

[lotjx]

Got my Wakanda Tickets today. Getting ready for some feels.

[MTR]

Saw Wakanda Forever yesterday. Loved the movie. Nice tributs to Boseman. All the feels.

[3puppies]

Saw Wakanda Forever yesterday. Loved the movie. Nice tributs to Boseman. All the feels.

High praise from me as well. We saw it Saturday AM, and while I think it was long, I thought the way they incorporated Boseman's death could not have been handled better. Great performance by Angela Bassett - possibly her best work, although I loved her performance as Tina Turner (and I can't believe that was that long ago - 1993)

[lotjx]

Count me in as loving it as well. Sets up a lot of potential global issues going forward. Angela needs an Oscar nod just for the trailer and the full movie, she just be handed Best Supporting Actress. It won't happen, but damn is she good in this.

[VHS]

Loved it. Went in not expecting to take Namor seriously, but damn son he runs Bartertown.

[mth]

Just saw Wakanda Forever and it was outstanding. Super good stuff. Lots of feels, as expected, but lots of badass stuff in there, too. Namor was cool as shit. I had to pee for 3/4 of it but could not bring myself to go.

[Nash Diesel]

Angela Bassett is definitely my favorite part of this movie. I was shocked with how much camera time she had.

[Jitters]

I don't know what Christmas is but Christmas time is here.

[virms]

So hyped for this. It will be interesting to see how this plays out as several people don't plan to return to their characters.

[VHS]

10 years these folks put in the work, let's goooo!

[Murphy]

Saw Wakanda Forever and loved it. Great performances, well handled, different. Nothing not to like! Intriguing going forward too.

Still haven't finished She-Hulk, but been loving that too. Just love this shit. Was fully converted into a Marvel fan back in 2019 and have never looked back.

[Fro]

Everyone already said it but add me to the list of people who loved Wakanda Forever. Best movie of Phase 4 hands down. Props to Coogler for handling Boseman's death so well. All of the cast members were great too, as was the music (shoutout Ludwig). Namor was a great new character, and Riri was pretty good too.

[lotjx]

Ant-Man 3 is my favorite Ant-Man. Kang is going to be an issue.

[Donald]

Ant-Man 3 is my favorite Ant-Man. Kang is going to be an issue.

I read he's like the new Thanos?

[Fro]

Sooo this Jonathan Majors arrest for assault against his girlfriend is potentially catastrophic for the MCU if they fire him. I mean yes they can re-cast under the logic of “variants look different from each other”’ but that’s not ideal.

[VHS]

Fuck.

[casselmm47]

Yup. Time for Rama Tut or Immortus or Scarlet Centurian to do a hot-tag.