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    So, people are claiming that this, somehow, is tied into the MCU.

    There's a Spider-Man poster on the wall proclaiming him a "murderer" and Michael Keaton shows up playing someone who's pretty much identified as being Adrian Toombs/The Vulture.

    This seemed like a cool idea for a movie before. But its quickly made itself essential viewing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    Her story is over, IMO. On with the new.
    Alright mate, not sure if you've heard. There's a quite exciting movie that's kicking off Phase 4, let me just double check what it's calle...Black Widow. It's called Black Widow.

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    ‘Tis a prequel though

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    We have already seen how her story ends, and I agree with whoever said that to undo her ending would be to undercut her sacrifice and the emotional toll it put on both the Avengers and the fans. Not happening.

    The tease in the post credits will set up the Hawkeye series, if I had to guess. Or it’s something completely unrelated to Black Widow like the Eternals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudz Mackenzie View Post


    So, people are claiming that this, somehow, is tied into the MCU.

    There's a Spider-Man poster on the wall proclaiming him a "murderer" and Michael Keaton shows up playing someone who's pretty much identified as being Adrian Toombs/The Vulture.

    This seemed like a cool idea for a movie before. But its quickly made itself essential viewing.
    I posted my thoughts in the Trailer thread but essentially:

    1. I think the trailer is good
    2. I'm curious if the snap happened in this universe. Is that canon? All other stuff (Avengers etc) can be rather easily ignored, but half of all humans and animals disappearing for 5 years would be hard to write around if indeed the Sony Marvel Universe is keeping the MCU as canon when they include Spidey and Vulture in here. They could pick and choose that Spidey and Vulture's canons from the MCU are the only thing carrying over, and not the snap, and that's probably fine though the inconsistency may irk some viewers.

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    Yeah, i can't see them undoing just about every death or it's gonna be like in comics where deaths don't matter 'cuz you know they're just going to undo them a few flicks later. Your favorite character killed? No worries, they've got a Diseny+ show or will be resurrected in a later move...

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    Im digging this final trailer. Plenty of action, a villain who seems to have a Winter Soldier vibe in terms of being a genuine threat and I think Johansson will bring the goods as they flesh out her backstory.

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    That looks great.

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    Looks really good actually

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    Uhh has anyone seen Chadwick Boseman lately? He looks like he's literally dying.

    https://www.instagram.com/tv/B_BgHvn...mpaign=loading

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    Quote Originally Posted by VHS View Post
    Uhh has anyone seen Chadwick Boseman lately? He looks like he's literally dying.

    https://www.instagram.com/tv/B_BgHvn...mpaign=loading
    It's for his role in Spike Lee's new movie about returning Vietnam vets.

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    Venom coming out of a tennis ball. You can't unsee it.

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    New trailer for this. July 9th in cinemas (hopefully) and on Disney+.


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    Iím really liking the look of this.


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    yea looks good. assuming the pandemic doesn't come back to ruin everything, having 4 MCU movies released in a 6-month span (July - Sept - Nov - Dec) will be fun. they've never put out more than 3 in a calendar year before so that will be something. I'm ready for them to open the flood gates.

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    Looks pretty standard, but ehh corny and fun.

    Would have popped hard if they'd made an Immortal Weapons movie instead.

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    Looks like a good time and a nice change of pace from the usual stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VHS View Post
    Uhh has anyone seen Chadwick Boseman lately? He looks like he's literally dying.

    https://www.instagram.com/tv/B_BgHvn...mpaign=loading


    Came into this thread to see something else, saw this, checked all the dates and was rather sad again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caito View Post
    Came into this thread to see something else, saw this, checked all the dates and was rather sad again.
    Sad face.

    RIP

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    I just watched his movie Message from the King. Badass. Very sad watching it as he had the potential to become the next big thing.

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    He was great. Da 5 Bloods is another one y'all should check out if you haven't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Zero View Post
    He was great. Da 5 Bloods is another one y'all should check out if you haven't.
    Loved it. He's not in it that much but he did great. That whole movie top to bottom was awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simmo Fortyone View Post
    How the FUCK does Captain America's shield just happen to bounce straight back to him EVERY single TIME?

    I mean come on.

    Will Falcon be able to make it do that
    Yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percussion View Post

    Why does this picture have it in the middle of the street?

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    A sizzle reel which reminds us of the pre-COVID Marvel era and confirms whatís coming up in the next couple of years.



    Black Widow: July 9, 2021
    Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings: Septermber 3, 2021
    Eternals: November 5, 2021
    Spider-Man: No Way Home: December 17, 2021
    Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness: March 25, 2022
    Thor: Love and Thunder: May 6, 2022
    Black Panther: Wakanda Forever: July 8, 2022
    The Marvels: November 11, 2022
    Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania: February 17, 2023
    Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3: May 5, 2023
    Fantastic Four: TBD

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    That's fuckin sweet.

    I will be honest, kind of odd not seeing Captain America/Iron Man but I was never a big mark for them.

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    It’ll be interesting to see the next big crossover film once we get beyond 2023. I reckon that before Boseman died, Black Panther, Dr Strange and Captain Marvel were being positioned to be the new big three to anchor another Avengers film after their respective sequels. Though Captain America can slide into that role now that they’re giving Mackie his own film. I really want to see more cases of these characters popping up in each other’s movies.

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    I will always be so happy I saw Endgame opening weekend in a packed theater and got to cheer with a couple hundred people at various moments. Best theater experience I’ve ever had. Seeing that clip in the sizzle reel just brought back those memories.

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    As someone who will gladly keep forking over my money for Marvel movies as long as they keep churning out high quality fluff, that sizzle reel has me amped up and excited.

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    New teaser for the Eternals


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    That trailer kinda did nothing for me. Looks like glamorous folks walking around and doing glamorous things, not having any sort of conflict. And that joke at the end fell totally flat.

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    Yeah, kind of have to echo that sentiment. Not much there that does anything for me.

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    Yea I agree but it's just a teaser. Looks cool and epic but no idea what the plot is and what the triggering event/villain will be that gets them to start intervening with human affairs. I mean if they didn't intervene with Thanos, what were they waiting for? Anyway it's a good cast so I'm interested. And I think it'll be cool to see how they've guided humans throughout history even if that's just covered in the early parts of the movie.

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    I’m interested in it but I think it’s deliberately vague. I don’t really know what to make of it.

    The continuity thing is always going to be an issue when they introduce characters who have been around or alive during the major MCU conflicts. Fury not calling Captain Marvel when Loki was attacking the Earth in the first Avengers film makes no sense, yet he decides within seconds of seeing people disappear in the Snap that it’s time to call her. It was a cool moment to see her logo flash up on the pager, but the pager itself is problematic when the likes of Loki and Ultron were about to take over or destroy the planet long before Thanos got the stones. Same way Wonder Woman was written into a corner by having her emerge after decades of non-interference in BvS and now the stand-alone films are trying to work around it.

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    Fury paged Danvers when Loki attacked but she just wasn't in range or was busy with something else. She could have been anywhere in the galaxy in that short 1 week period of the attack. Boom, fan-splained.

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    The range of the pager was a couple of galaxies at least. I have no problem with that explanation. I just think the writing around it is a little clunky - the whole “for emergencies only” thing because it puts the onus on Fury to determine what is an actual emergency requiring her assistance and you never see him making the call on previous occasions. But they probably didn’t even have Danvers mapped out in the early days of the MCU so they’ve tried to fit her in around those big events, just like the Eternals have seemingly been around for ages.

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    Pretty interested in watching the whole Eternals/Deviants/Celestials thing play out a bit.

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    Now this is a frickin trailer. Looks awesome. (And better than the last trailer)

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    I saw Black Widow. It delivered and I very much enjoyed it.

    No-spoiler review:

    • The production design and cinematography were top notch. It looked beautiful. I definitely recommend seeing this in IMAX if you can.
    • The action sequences were pretty sick. It didn't redefine MCU action or anything but it had some big Mission Impossible/James Bond style set pieces and some good Bourne Identify style hand-to-hand combat. Fun stuff.
    • Florence Pugh and David Harbour.... fugetaboutit. They were both so good. Especially Pugh as you've probably already heard from anyone commenting on this film. Such a good performance. I've seen Fighting with my Family and I didn't even realize it was the same actor until I looked up her credits after seeing BW, and that's a testament to how talented she is.
    • The family part of the story was excellent and the heart of the film and I loved it.
    • The villains and the main conflict were not the strongest or most original elements (some parts seemed like re-tread for the MCU) so if you're someone who talks about how MCU villains are always underwhelming, you will have more ammo for that take.


    This wasn't the best solo character MCU movie but it's up there with the better ones. For me personally, I put Ragnarok and Iron Man 1 in the classic tier, with Thor 1 and Dr. Strange as my next favorites. Then there's this tier of Captain Marvel, Ant Man, Black Panther, Black Widow and Winter Soldier. I put BW in the group with these and I could rank them any number of ways on any given day. (I'm discounting Civil War and Guardians since those are more like group/ensemble movies). Black Widow could maybe rise up these ranks upon repeat viewing because it really did have a ton of heart and good action.

    Rating: 8/10

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    30 bucks to stream black widow even with a disney+ subscription. Fuck off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virms View Post
    30 bucks to stream black widow even with a disney+ subscription. Fuck off.
    I know a guy who could get you a link. I'm watching it right now.

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    To me, after the beginning it felt lengthy before they actually got to story/dialogue lol. That said, I liked the overall layout of the film. I heard reviews that this was in the realm of a MI, Bond movie and I could definitely see that.


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    Widow was good not great but good. The Taskmaster reveal is going to piss people off but the rest of the cast and story make up for it.

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    Black Widow crushed at the box office. Beat Fast 9 for the pandemic opening weekend record. According to Disney, it also tacked on another $60 million in Premier Access rentals through the Disney+ streaming service.
    Last edited by BGMaverick; July 11th, 2021 at 10:40 PM.

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    Yea that's a good haul on the Disney+ buys. The Rock's Jungle Cruise is supposed to be the last one to get this type of release from Disney. When Shang Chi drops Sept 3, they're going back to theaters-only for a 45 day exclusive window. It's interesting to see how it all plays out. I for one am rooting for the old model to stick around so that cinemas don't die out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    Yea that's a good haul on the Disney+ buys. The Rock's Jungle Cruise is supposed to be the last one to get this type of release from Disney. When Shang Chi drops Sept 3, they're going back to theaters-only for a 45 day exclusive window. It's interesting to see how it all plays out. I for one am rooting for the old model to stick around so that cinemas don't die out.
    Jungle Cruise does absolutely nothing for me in terms of wanting to see it. Shang Chi does look good, though.

    I'll be surprised if big chain theaters fizzle out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    Jungle Cruise does absolutely nothing for me in terms of wanting to see it. Shang Chi does look good, though.

    I'll be surprised if big chain theaters fizzle out.
    I don't think the big chains will fizzle out completely or anything drastic like that, but if this became the norm (simultaneous release in the cinema and on whatever streaming site is associated with the studio) then movie tickets will drop and we might take whatever number of cinemas operated in America prior to the pandemic and in 5-10 years maybe only 50% of that number would still operate. A thinning-of-the-herd situation rather than a full extinction.

    But I don't think that will happen. While yes Netflix and their big budget is scooping up a lot of movies that would normally go in theaters, I think the "big 5" movie studios will stick with the theater model. A lot of money to be made in those popcorn and soda sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    I don't think the big chains will fizzle out completely or anything drastic like that, but if this became the norm (simultaneous release in the cinema and on whatever streaming site is associated with the studio) then movie tickets will drop and we might take whatever number of cinemas operated in America prior to the pandemic and in 5-10 years maybe only 50% of that number would still operate. A thinning-of-the-herd situation rather than a full extinction.

    But I don't think that will happen. While yes Netflix and their big budget is scooping up a lot of movies that would normally go in theaters, I think the "big 5" movie studios will stick with the theater model. A lot of money to be made in those popcorn and soda sales.
    Can't really argue with any of that, but the connectivity between the last two lines didn't make much sense. The studios don't make money off the popcorn and soda sales, to the best of my knowledge lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    Can't really argue with any of that, but the connectivity between the last two lines didn't make much sense. The studios don't make money off the popcorn and soda sales, to the best of my knowledge lol.
    You're right they don't, so it didn't make a ton of sense, but my point is that generally there's a lot of money to be made in getting people into the theater so I think the economics of it will keep the existing model going. The studios will strategize over what's the most profitable way to release their movies and will probably find that getting people to the theater is more profitable in the long run just as it's always been. And meanwhile the dying theater industry will be begging and pleading with them to keep releasing movies exclusively in theaters, and they could incentivize the studios by offering more favorable ticket revenue splits or things of that nature. Of course they won't have much leeway to do that if they keep taking huge losses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    You're right they don't, so it didn't make a ton of sense, but my point is that generally there's a lot of money to be made in getting people into the theater so I think the economics of it will keep the existing model going. The studios will strategize over what's the most profitable way to release their movies and will probably find that getting people to the theater is more profitable in the long run just as it's always been. And meanwhile the dying theater industry will be begging and pleading with them to keep releasing movies exclusively in theaters, and they could incentivize the studios by offering more favorable ticket revenue splits or things of that nature. Of course they won't have much leeway to do that if they keep taking huge losses.
    I know theaters are or should be creative in trying to market other things for people to buy tickets for (UFC, WWE events). That would be potential for an ancillary form of income for the theaters. We're also still in the earlier phases of things opening up. If they (studios and theaters) are able to stay afloat for the remainder of the year, there could be a relatively decent chance that things could be more favorable for them next year.

    We can probably agree easily that the already small market of middle-to-low budget movies are probably going to have a harder time being in theaters, which really stinks for the creators.

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    I really enjoyed the movie, and wish it would have come out closer to its place in the MCU timeline. Really, Black Widow should have gotten a movie in either phase 1 or 2.

    Florence Pugh is the real star of this movie. I have only seen her in a few movies, but she knocked it out of the park.

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    I enjoyed Black Widow more than I expected, which is always a good thing. I heard that Scarlett Johansen is suing Disney because her contract reportedly gave her a percentage of the theater box office ticket sales, and Disney breached it by releasing it online at the same time. You would have thought someone at Disney would have realized this and negotiated something with her team first.

    Fuck Disney

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puppies View Post
    I enjoyed Black Widow more than I expected, which is always a good thing. I heard that Scarlett Johansen is suing Disney because her contract reportedly gave her a percentage of the theater box office ticket sales, and Disney breached it by releasing it online at the same time. You would have thought someone at Disney would have realized this and negotiated something with her team first.

    Fuck Disney
    Before saying Fuck Disney you should read up on it.

    From what I'm reading she's probably going to make more money than if they kept it strictly in theaters. The movie took a nosedive the 2nd week of release.

    I get her side, they think that Disney did this as a way to fuck her and I would agree if this were 2019 but the pandemic argument is strong here. And she doesn't look good here. Her contract was simply a way to avoid this movie going straight to DVD, which it wouldn't have considering not a single MCU movie has ever gone straight to DVD.

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    If that was the case, then why in March 2019 did Disney acknowledge otherwise?

    Johansson's suit includes a March 2019 email where Marvel Chief Counsel Dave Galluzzi said the release would go according to a traditional theatrical model: "We understand that should the plan change, we would need to discuss this with you and come to an understanding as the deal is based on a series of (very large) box-office bonuses.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puppies View Post
    If that was the case, then why in March 2019 did Disney acknowledge otherwise?

    Johansson's suit includes a March 2019 email where Marvel Chief Counsel Dave Galluzzi said the release would go according to a traditional theatrical model: "We understand that should the plan change, we would need to discuss this with you and come to an understanding as the deal is based on a series of (very large) box-office bonuses.”
    If what was the case?

    Do you think they had the pandemic in mind? Do you honestly believe she isn't getting a cut of the Disney+ subscriptions?

    As the story unfolds more info will come out. I see both sides but I can't really say fuck either of them. It seems like the only reason the lawsuit has came out is due to her movie falling hard after the first week. This was a movie that didn't really make sense with the timing of it's release until the end credits. I feel like it wasn't destined to be Joker-level.

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    This is just business. Other studios have already come to terms with their actors on adjusting a contract due to pandemic streaming releases, and it's a new aspect of negotiation that will probably be ironed out across the industry in the near future. It's surprising they didn't come to an agreement or settle via arbitration privately and that it became public fodder. But I don't see a need to take sides on this. These things happen.

    Precedents are important though, so my take is that Scarlett fighting and clawing for a favorable deal is probably appreciated by SAG and other actors in regard to streaming compensation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    If what was the case?.
    The very last sentence you posted, that I replied to.

    Her contract was simply a way to avoid this movie going straight to DVD...
    This was clearly not the case.

    Her contract was designed so that she could get paid based on a portion of the box office, with bonuses based on a series of targets, but it called for exclusive box office distribution so that these targets were attainable. Disney breached its contract with her despite her multiple requests to reach a new agreement - so her lawsuit claims.

    Then Disney responds to her suit saying she lacks empathy because of the pandemic, and she should be satisfied with her $20 million (when it should have been $50 million). The pandemic doesn't give them the right to ignore her contract.

    So yeah, I feel comfortable saying Fuck Disney at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puppies View Post
    The very last sentence you posted, that I replied to.



    This was clearly not the case.

    Her contract was designed so that she could get paid based on a portion of the box office, with bonuses based on a series of targets, but it called for exclusive box office distribution so that these targets were attainable. Disney breached its contract with her despite her multiple requests to reach a new agreement - so her lawsuit claims.

    Then Disney responds to her suit saying she lacks empathy because of the pandemic, and she should be satisfied with her $20 million (when it should have been $50 million). The pandemic doesn't give them the right to ignore her contract.

    So yeah, I feel comfortable saying Fuck Disney at this point.
    It SHOULD have been 50 million? Based on their pie in the sky projections i.e. best case scenario.

    Her contract in terms of the release is what we're talking about, was not designed to factor in a global pandemic.

    Hypothetically let's say it as ONLY a theatrical release, I doubt she would have already made 20 million let alone 50 lol. But we'll never know and that's going to be what Disney and her team will figure out in court.

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    So you agree that when you said

    Her contract was simply a way to avoid this movie going straight to DVD...
    you were just making shit up.

    Disney breached their contract with her. They acknowledged ahead of the release that if they were going to act differently they'd have to reach an understanding with her.

    Then they didn't.

    Their actions were designed to increase online subscribers, at the direct expense of this film's potential box office gross. By voiding the exclusive theatre distribution channel, they should be penalized, and hard. Not just pay her the maximum bonus, but punitive measures should be considered.

    I hope she wins treble damages.

    Fuck Disney.

    Her character is dead anyway, so its not like she has another realistic opportunity to make this kind of dough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puppies View Post
    So you agree that when you said



    you were just making shit up.

    Disney breached their contract with her. They acknowledged ahead of the release that if they were going to act differently they'd have to reach an understanding with her.

    Then they didn't.

    Their actions were designed to increase online subscribers, at the direct expense of this film's potential box office gross. By voiding the exclusive theatre distribution channel, they should be penalized, and hard. Not just pay her the maximum bonus, but punitive measures should be considered.

    I hope she wins treble damages.

    Fuck Disney.

    Her character is dead anyway, so its not like she has another realistic opportunity to make this kind of dough.
    And you're making shit up by saying she was going to make $50 million.

    Most of your post is parakeeting her lawyer.

    So keep speaking bullshit and maybe write a letter to Kevin Feige while you're at it about the injustices that haven't been proven to have gone down.

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    It isn't making shit up to acknowledge that her contract with Disney provided that she could have earned $50 million based on box office receipts under exclusive theater distribution. Disney breached its contract so this was no longer possible. Her claim is pretty clear. I agree that the courts will likely decide how much she should get, and I am curious as to whether they will ultimately settle before this goes to a judge. Headlines will likely read that "Black Widow stings Mouse"

    It is completely bullshit to claim what you said about her contract being simply a way to avoid the film going straight to DVD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puppies View Post
    It isn't making shit up to acknowledge that her contract with Disney provided that she could have earned $50 million based on box office receipts under exclusive theater distribution. Disney breached its contract so this was no longer possible. Her claim is pretty clear. I agree that the courts will likely decide how much she should get, and I am curious as to whether they will ultimately settle before this goes to a judge. Headlines will likely read that "Black Widow stings Mouse"

    It is completely bullshit to claim what you said about her contract being simply a way to avoid the film going straight to DVD.
    Did it specifically say $50 million?

    I'm in the camp that this won't go to court because it'll do nothing for Scarlett but take money out of her pocket that she might not think is worth losing to simply break even with a low amount.

    Completely bullshit? Right. I'll break it down. Yes, her movie being strictly theatrical helps her get the bonuses that others supposedly get if they're movies hit a certain number. I'm sure when some of these Avengers movies and Civil War, Winter Soldier, when they hit those near billion or billion+, she got a nice piece of that like everyone else.

    But in what realm would there be a chance this movie would be a non-theatrical release without, as we say, an "act of God"? The verbiage is there in terms of if there was something drastic that would happen they would need to go back to the table. As far as we know not even a week in, they never did that or attempted to do that on any level. I stand by my comment about it simply being a way to avoid the film going to DVD. Nobody was thinking about the pandemic, and if it's true she'll still make as much if not MORE, she probably will settle out of court. Would she lose out on any future earnings though if she settles?

    I never once said she didn't have a case. An email from someone at Marvel means what in court? If they settle it just means they acknowledge it was going to be a pointless "war" and like you said....her character is dead, she needs to get as much out of this movie as she can.

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    Cant believe thats a legit comic

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    New Eternals trailer. Looks pretty good. Iím more into the human stuff like Black Widow/Shang Chi as opposed to gods fighting gods, but this could be like a better version of Superman.

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    Yeah, I'm not really feeling it. So much CGI.

    If it's on Disney+ I'll still probably watch it (somewhere else online).

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    I'm excited for it. Plus Salma hayek. Winning combo.

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    The earlier trailers didn't grab me, but this one has. It gave a good sense of the story and they'll be tackling the non-interference thing head-on from the looks of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    Yeah, I'm not really feeling it. So much CGI.

    If it's on Disney+ I'll still probably watch it (somewhere else online).
    So you're not feeling 99% of the MCU? lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    So you're not feeling 99% of the MCU? lol.
    My friend pretty much tried to say the same thing but I feel like they at least use costumes, prosthetics, and makeup for a lot of the other movies.

    Part of it could also be that it's not a property I'm familiar with like I was with Guardians or Avengers. Or maybe I'm just a little burnt out on Marvel right now. I haven't felt like watching the What If stuff at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    My friend pretty much tried to say the same thing but I feel like they at least use costumes, prosthetics, and makeup for a lot of the other movies.

    Part of it could also be that it's not a property I'm familiar with like I was with Guardians or Avengers. Or maybe I'm just a little burnt out on Marvel right now. I haven't felt like watching the What If stuff at all.
    I don't think too many people were truly familiar with Guardians of the Galaxy when it dropped. For one, it was never a consistent property and two, the members changed a lot. They were a rarely used team and the only character I even truly remembered was Drax because of the trading cards back in the 90's. The Eternals aren't very well known either there though unless you're a die hard. I think it will be a lot like Guardians, Capt Marvel, the Netflix shows as well where it's introducing characters that don't have the mega following of Spider Man and Thor but seem to be well-received. Guardians was just a totally different vibe than really anything we've seen out of the MCU. It was like if we had the budget and technology back in the 90's to do a comic book movie aimed at the Pauly Shore audience lol.

    I'm curious to see how Shang-Chi is going to do. I barely remember this character, I'm honestly not even sure I've read anything with him in it. I know the "universe" he's in so to speak, I assume the dragon gives us fanboys a smile. I like to see these lesser known characters thrive. Blade for fuck's sake, how did THAT happen? I'd like to see a little more done with groups like New Warriors, X-Factor, would it kill anyone to give us Havok and Night Thrasher? New Mutants, eh, we could see a little more out of that whole universe when the X-Men and Fantastic Four plus whoever the fuck else they have hidden in the cabinet.

    Keep in mind, I haven't watched this trailer, but I want to believe in some way shape or form this movie=the introduction of Galactus. Thanos is done, Galactus is the biggest name they could throw at us to build the next 20-25 movies.

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    I was just speaking for myself. I was familiar with Guardians of The Galaxy having read the comics and I was hyped for the movie. I know nothing about The Eternals. I would love a Nova movie, Richard Rider though, not the kid who took over which at this point they'd probably do instead.

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    Iím liking how this fight scene is channelling Jackie Chan. Early reactions sound positive, with universal praise for the choreography.

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    that does put a smile on my face.

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    Looks brilliant. These solo Spidey films have never grabbed me as much as other films in the MCU, even though I love Holland in the role, but I’m digging the story here. It also seems like Strange has a considerable role. Something’s definitely up with the Sanctum Santorum and he seems too eager to go along with a reality changing plan.

    If they’re keeping an entire layer of Maguire and Garfield showing up under wraps for now, then this film is bursting with cool stuff. I’m assuming Molina is addressing Maguire rather than Holland at the end and Marvel are doing their usual trailer editing trickery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    If they’re keeping an entire layer of Maguire and Garfield showing up under wraps for now, then this film is bursting with cool stuff. I’m assuming Molina is addressing Maguire rather than Holland at the end and Marvel are doing their usual trailer editing trickery.
    Certainly seems like the trailer was attention-grabbing for the casuals and then get the bigger fans hyped. It did cover a lot of ground but there's clearly still meat on the bone and that will be the stuff you mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Looks brilliant. These solo Spidey films have never grabbed me as much as other films in the MCU, even though I love Holland in the role, but I’m digging the story here. It also seems like Strange has a considerable role. Something’s definitely up with the Sanctum Santorum and he seems too eager to go along with a reality changing plan.

    If they’re keeping an entire layer of Maguire and Garfield showing up under wraps for now, then this film is bursting with cool stuff. I’m assuming Molina is addressing Maguire rather than Holland at the end and Marvel are doing their usual trailer editing trickery.
    wouldnt be surprised if that moment of peter changing into the suit that they show AFTER the doc ock reveal actually comes BEFORE the doc ock line, and doc ock is just seeing a dude in a spiderman suit, not realizing it's not HIS peter parker.

    would actually be a great way to introduce the maguire spiderman. holland thinks this rando mechanical arm guy is addressing him cause the world knows spiderman is peter parker, doc ock just got lucky cause in this universe peter parker is still spiderman. then you get maguire spiderman swinging in going after doc ock, and all three of them are like wtf and we get a live action version of the spidermen meme.

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    I feel like in the end the different versions of Spiderman will maybe give a out to the Holland version to cover back up his identity if that spell doesn't work. Maybe The spell works because the other Spideys get sucked into Holland's world and confuse the average Joe citizen.

    I'm very excited for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    wouldnt be surprised if that moment of peter changing into the suit that they show AFTER the doc ock reveal actually comes BEFORE the doc ock line, and doc ock is just seeing a dude in a spiderman suit, not realizing it's not HIS peter parker.

    would actually be a great way to introduce the maguire spiderman. holland thinks this rando mechanical arm guy is addressing him cause the world knows spiderman is peter parker, doc ock just got lucky cause in this universe peter parker is still spiderman. then you get maguire spiderman swinging in going after doc ock, and all three of them are like wtf and we get a live action version of the spidermen meme.
    If they don't do the Spiderman meme after reading this I'm gonna be pissed.

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    Just watched Black Widow. Thought it was quite good. Really think it should have come out at it's point in the timeline and before the character died so you'd have been more familiar and invested in her when it happened. Will echo others sentiments that Pugh stole the show.

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    This is a great recreation of the No Way Home trailer using footage from the 90s Spider-Man animated series. The ďThat feels weird, but Iíll allow itĒ bit is perfect.


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    I saw Shang Chi and it was pretty solid. Probably middle of the pack for MCU origin movies. I think I preferred Black Widow slightly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    I saw Shang Chi and it was pretty solid. Probably middle of the pack for MCU origin movies. I think I preferred Black Widow slightly.
    Does it really change the MCU moving forward? I read something to that effect in a review.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    Does it really change the MCU moving forward? I read something to that effect in a review.
    Nah it doesn't change the MCU other than introducing new characters and the 10 Rings as a powerful weapon / organization. I think whoever wrote that was being overly dramatic. Nothing game changing.

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    How was the what if zombie episode? IGN gave it a 5 out of 10 but to put it politely their reviews on movies and TV shows are dog shit a lot of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    How was the what if zombie episode? IGN gave it a 5 out of 10 but to put it politely their reviews on movies and TV shows are dog shit a lot of the time.
    I liked it. The reasoning for the outbreak was pretty good but there was definitely some weird spots here and there in it. It probably won't live up to the hype it had coming from the comics though so I would bank on seeing low reviews here and there.

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    So, the Shang Chi actor got canceled? I guess he had some terrible tweets, I didn't see those but I did see a post apparently from his reddit account comparing being a pedophile to being gay based on research he'd done for a role. Yikes.

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    If it's for the pedo/gay comments it's a crock of shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percussion View Post
    If it's for the pedo/gay comments it's a crock of shit.
    How so? Isn't it pretty disgusting to try to compare being a pedo to being gay?

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    Did you read his actual comments?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percussion View Post
    Did you read his actual comments?
    Yes.

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    I’m not cancelling Simu for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    Yes.
    And you think the comparison he made was genuinely disgusting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percussion View Post
    And you think the comparison he made was genuinely disgusting?
    Comparing pedophilia to homosexuality? Yes, 100%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    Comparing pedophilia to homosexuality? Yes, 100%.
    His comparison was clumsy, sure, but the intent was obviously - painfully obvious, in fact - not an absolute direct apples to apples likeness comparison.

    If I made a comparison between you and Tyson, that you both were born of mothers, would that be offensive to you as though I were equating you completely to Tyson?

    I never said you act the same, your tastes were the same, or your values were the same, just that like Tyson you in fact were born of a mother.

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    I struggle to believe you actually read what he wrote.

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