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    So, people are claiming that this, somehow, is tied into the MCU.

    There's a Spider-Man poster on the wall proclaiming him a "murderer" and Michael Keaton shows up playing someone who's pretty much identified as being Adrian Toombs/The Vulture.

    This seemed like a cool idea for a movie before. But its quickly made itself essential viewing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    Her story is over, IMO. On with the new.
    Alright mate, not sure if you've heard. There's a quite exciting movie that's kicking off Phase 4, let me just double check what it's calle...Black Widow. It's called Black Widow.

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    ‘Tis a prequel though

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    We have already seen how her story ends, and I agree with whoever said that to undo her ending would be to undercut her sacrifice and the emotional toll it put on both the Avengers and the fans. Not happening.

    The tease in the post credits will set up the Hawkeye series, if I had to guess. Or it’s something completely unrelated to Black Widow like the Eternals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudz Mackenzie View Post


    So, people are claiming that this, somehow, is tied into the MCU.

    There's a Spider-Man poster on the wall proclaiming him a "murderer" and Michael Keaton shows up playing someone who's pretty much identified as being Adrian Toombs/The Vulture.

    This seemed like a cool idea for a movie before. But its quickly made itself essential viewing.
    I posted my thoughts in the Trailer thread but essentially:

    1. I think the trailer is good
    2. I'm curious if the snap happened in this universe. Is that canon? All other stuff (Avengers etc) can be rather easily ignored, but half of all humans and animals disappearing for 5 years would be hard to write around if indeed the Sony Marvel Universe is keeping the MCU as canon when they include Spidey and Vulture in here. They could pick and choose that Spidey and Vulture's canons from the MCU are the only thing carrying over, and not the snap, and that's probably fine though the inconsistency may irk some viewers.

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    Yeah, i can't see them undoing just about every death or it's gonna be like in comics where deaths don't matter 'cuz you know they're just going to undo them a few flicks later. Your favorite character killed? No worries, they've got a Diseny+ show or will be resurrected in a later move...

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    Im digging this final trailer. Plenty of action, a villain who seems to have a Winter Soldier vibe in terms of being a genuine threat and I think Johansson will bring the goods as they flesh out her backstory.

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    That looks great.

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    Looks really good actually

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    Uhh has anyone seen Chadwick Boseman lately? He looks like he's literally dying.

    https://www.instagram.com/tv/B_BgHvn...mpaign=loading

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    Quote Originally Posted by VHS View Post
    Uhh has anyone seen Chadwick Boseman lately? He looks like he's literally dying.

    https://www.instagram.com/tv/B_BgHvn...mpaign=loading
    It's for his role in Spike Lee's new movie about returning Vietnam vets.

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    Venom coming out of a tennis ball. You can't unsee it.

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    New trailer for this. July 9th in cinemas (hopefully) and on Disney+.


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    Iím really liking the look of this.


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    yea looks good. assuming the pandemic doesn't come back to ruin everything, having 4 MCU movies released in a 6-month span (July - Sept - Nov - Dec) will be fun. they've never put out more than 3 in a calendar year before so that will be something. I'm ready for them to open the flood gates.

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    Looks pretty standard, but ehh corny and fun.

    Would have popped hard if they'd made an Immortal Weapons movie instead.

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    Looks like a good time and a nice change of pace from the usual stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VHS View Post
    Uhh has anyone seen Chadwick Boseman lately? He looks like he's literally dying.

    https://www.instagram.com/tv/B_BgHvn...mpaign=loading


    Came into this thread to see something else, saw this, checked all the dates and was rather sad again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caito View Post
    Came into this thread to see something else, saw this, checked all the dates and was rather sad again.
    Sad face.

    RIP

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    I just watched his movie Message from the King. Badass. Very sad watching it as he had the potential to become the next big thing.

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    He was great. Da 5 Bloods is another one y'all should check out if you haven't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Zero View Post
    He was great. Da 5 Bloods is another one y'all should check out if you haven't.
    Loved it. He's not in it that much but he did great. That whole movie top to bottom was awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simmo Fortyone View Post
    How the FUCK does Captain America's shield just happen to bounce straight back to him EVERY single TIME?

    I mean come on.

    Will Falcon be able to make it do that
    Yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percussion View Post

    Why does this picture have it in the middle of the street?

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    A sizzle reel which reminds us of the pre-COVID Marvel era and confirms whatís coming up in the next couple of years.



    Black Widow: July 9, 2021
    Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings: Septermber 3, 2021
    Eternals: November 5, 2021
    Spider-Man: No Way Home: December 17, 2021
    Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness: March 25, 2022
    Thor: Love and Thunder: May 6, 2022
    Black Panther: Wakanda Forever: July 8, 2022
    The Marvels: November 11, 2022
    Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania: February 17, 2023
    Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3: May 5, 2023
    Fantastic Four: TBD

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    That's fuckin sweet.

    I will be honest, kind of odd not seeing Captain America/Iron Man but I was never a big mark for them.

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    It’ll be interesting to see the next big crossover film once we get beyond 2023. I reckon that before Boseman died, Black Panther, Dr Strange and Captain Marvel were being positioned to be the new big three to anchor another Avengers film after their respective sequels. Though Captain America can slide into that role now that they’re giving Mackie his own film. I really want to see more cases of these characters popping up in each other’s movies.

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    I will always be so happy I saw Endgame opening weekend in a packed theater and got to cheer with a couple hundred people at various moments. Best theater experience I’ve ever had. Seeing that clip in the sizzle reel just brought back those memories.

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    As someone who will gladly keep forking over my money for Marvel movies as long as they keep churning out high quality fluff, that sizzle reel has me amped up and excited.

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    New teaser for the Eternals


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    That trailer kinda did nothing for me. Looks like glamorous folks walking around and doing glamorous things, not having any sort of conflict. And that joke at the end fell totally flat.

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    Yeah, kind of have to echo that sentiment. Not much there that does anything for me.

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    Yea I agree but it's just a teaser. Looks cool and epic but no idea what the plot is and what the triggering event/villain will be that gets them to start intervening with human affairs. I mean if they didn't intervene with Thanos, what were they waiting for? Anyway it's a good cast so I'm interested. And I think it'll be cool to see how they've guided humans throughout history even if that's just covered in the early parts of the movie.

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    I’m interested in it but I think it’s deliberately vague. I don’t really know what to make of it.

    The continuity thing is always going to be an issue when they introduce characters who have been around or alive during the major MCU conflicts. Fury not calling Captain Marvel when Loki was attacking the Earth in the first Avengers film makes no sense, yet he decides within seconds of seeing people disappear in the Snap that it’s time to call her. It was a cool moment to see her logo flash up on the pager, but the pager itself is problematic when the likes of Loki and Ultron were about to take over or destroy the planet long before Thanos got the stones. Same way Wonder Woman was written into a corner by having her emerge after decades of non-interference in BvS and now the stand-alone films are trying to work around it.

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    Fury paged Danvers when Loki attacked but she just wasn't in range or was busy with something else. She could have been anywhere in the galaxy in that short 1 week period of the attack. Boom, fan-splained.

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    The range of the pager was a couple of galaxies at least. I have no problem with that explanation. I just think the writing around it is a little clunky - the whole “for emergencies only” thing because it puts the onus on Fury to determine what is an actual emergency requiring her assistance and you never see him making the call on previous occasions. But they probably didn’t even have Danvers mapped out in the early days of the MCU so they’ve tried to fit her in around those big events, just like the Eternals have seemingly been around for ages.

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    Pretty interested in watching the whole Eternals/Deviants/Celestials thing play out a bit.

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    Now this is a frickin trailer. Looks awesome. (And better than the last trailer)

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    I saw Black Widow. It delivered and I very much enjoyed it.

    No-spoiler review:

    • The production design and cinematography were top notch. It looked beautiful. I definitely recommend seeing this in IMAX if you can.
    • The action sequences were pretty sick. It didn't redefine MCU action or anything but it had some big Mission Impossible/James Bond style set pieces and some good Bourne Identify style hand-to-hand combat. Fun stuff.
    • Florence Pugh and David Harbour.... fugetaboutit. They were both so good. Especially Pugh as you've probably already heard from anyone commenting on this film. Such a good performance. I've seen Fighting with my Family and I didn't even realize it was the same actor until I looked up her credits after seeing BW, and that's a testament to how talented she is.
    • The family part of the story was excellent and the heart of the film and I loved it.
    • The villains and the main conflict were not the strongest or most original elements (some parts seemed like re-tread for the MCU) so if you're someone who talks about how MCU villains are always underwhelming, you will have more ammo for that take.


    This wasn't the best solo character MCU movie but it's up there with the better ones. For me personally, I put Ragnarok and Iron Man 1 in the classic tier, with Thor 1 and Dr. Strange as my next favorites. Then there's this tier of Captain Marvel, Ant Man, Black Panther, Black Widow and Winter Soldier. I put BW in the group with these and I could rank them any number of ways on any given day. (I'm discounting Civil War and Guardians since those are more like group/ensemble movies). Black Widow could maybe rise up these ranks upon repeat viewing because it really did have a ton of heart and good action.

    Rating: 8/10

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    30 bucks to stream black widow even with a disney+ subscription. Fuck off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virms View Post
    30 bucks to stream black widow even with a disney+ subscription. Fuck off.
    I know a guy who could get you a link. I'm watching it right now.

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    To me, after the beginning it felt lengthy before they actually got to story/dialogue lol. That said, I liked the overall layout of the film. I heard reviews that this was in the realm of a MI, Bond movie and I could definitely see that.


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    Widow was good not great but good. The Taskmaster reveal is going to piss people off but the rest of the cast and story make up for it.

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    Black Widow crushed at the box office. Beat Fast 9 for the pandemic opening weekend record. According to Disney, it also tacked on another $60 million in Premier Access rentals through the Disney+ streaming service.
    Last edited by BGMaverick; July 11th, 2021 at 10:40 PM.

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    Yea that's a good haul on the Disney+ buys. The Rock's Jungle Cruise is supposed to be the last one to get this type of release from Disney. When Shang Chi drops Sept 3, they're going back to theaters-only for a 45 day exclusive window. It's interesting to see how it all plays out. I for one am rooting for the old model to stick around so that cinemas don't die out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    Yea that's a good haul on the Disney+ buys. The Rock's Jungle Cruise is supposed to be the last one to get this type of release from Disney. When Shang Chi drops Sept 3, they're going back to theaters-only for a 45 day exclusive window. It's interesting to see how it all plays out. I for one am rooting for the old model to stick around so that cinemas don't die out.
    Jungle Cruise does absolutely nothing for me in terms of wanting to see it. Shang Chi does look good, though.

    I'll be surprised if big chain theaters fizzle out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    Jungle Cruise does absolutely nothing for me in terms of wanting to see it. Shang Chi does look good, though.

    I'll be surprised if big chain theaters fizzle out.
    I don't think the big chains will fizzle out completely or anything drastic like that, but if this became the norm (simultaneous release in the cinema and on whatever streaming site is associated with the studio) then movie tickets will drop and we might take whatever number of cinemas operated in America prior to the pandemic and in 5-10 years maybe only 50% of that number would still operate. A thinning-of-the-herd situation rather than a full extinction.

    But I don't think that will happen. While yes Netflix and their big budget is scooping up a lot of movies that would normally go in theaters, I think the "big 5" movie studios will stick with the theater model. A lot of money to be made in those popcorn and soda sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    I don't think the big chains will fizzle out completely or anything drastic like that, but if this became the norm (simultaneous release in the cinema and on whatever streaming site is associated with the studio) then movie tickets will drop and we might take whatever number of cinemas operated in America prior to the pandemic and in 5-10 years maybe only 50% of that number would still operate. A thinning-of-the-herd situation rather than a full extinction.

    But I don't think that will happen. While yes Netflix and their big budget is scooping up a lot of movies that would normally go in theaters, I think the "big 5" movie studios will stick with the theater model. A lot of money to be made in those popcorn and soda sales.
    Can't really argue with any of that, but the connectivity between the last two lines didn't make much sense. The studios don't make money off the popcorn and soda sales, to the best of my knowledge lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    Can't really argue with any of that, but the connectivity between the last two lines didn't make much sense. The studios don't make money off the popcorn and soda sales, to the best of my knowledge lol.
    You're right they don't, so it didn't make a ton of sense, but my point is that generally there's a lot of money to be made in getting people into the theater so I think the economics of it will keep the existing model going. The studios will strategize over what's the most profitable way to release their movies and will probably find that getting people to the theater is more profitable in the long run just as it's always been. And meanwhile the dying theater industry will be begging and pleading with them to keep releasing movies exclusively in theaters, and they could incentivize the studios by offering more favorable ticket revenue splits or things of that nature. Of course they won't have much leeway to do that if they keep taking huge losses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    You're right they don't, so it didn't make a ton of sense, but my point is that generally there's a lot of money to be made in getting people into the theater so I think the economics of it will keep the existing model going. The studios will strategize over what's the most profitable way to release their movies and will probably find that getting people to the theater is more profitable in the long run just as it's always been. And meanwhile the dying theater industry will be begging and pleading with them to keep releasing movies exclusively in theaters, and they could incentivize the studios by offering more favorable ticket revenue splits or things of that nature. Of course they won't have much leeway to do that if they keep taking huge losses.
    I know theaters are or should be creative in trying to market other things for people to buy tickets for (UFC, WWE events). That would be potential for an ancillary form of income for the theaters. We're also still in the earlier phases of things opening up. If they (studios and theaters) are able to stay afloat for the remainder of the year, there could be a relatively decent chance that things could be more favorable for them next year.

    We can probably agree easily that the already small market of middle-to-low budget movies are probably going to have a harder time being in theaters, which really stinks for the creators.

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    I really enjoyed the movie, and wish it would have come out closer to its place in the MCU timeline. Really, Black Widow should have gotten a movie in either phase 1 or 2.

    Florence Pugh is the real star of this movie. I have only seen her in a few movies, but she knocked it out of the park.

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