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    Quote Originally Posted by Defrost View Post
    Especially considering that when Craig made Skyfall he was only a year or so older than when Brosnan made Goldeneye and about 5 years younger than when Moore made Live and Let Die
    The point in Craig is that he is a new, young and dynamic bond though. And now he is undoubtedly more craggy and less fresh faced...but no less sexy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mik View Post
    I don't believe so, from what I heard although I haven't researched into it, it made more than even mamma Mia or avatar over here.
    You're right. I'm surprised at that. I only asked because the original story posted yesterday left it open to interpretation.

    Not that box office numbers are any great way to rank a film's popularity against huge films from even a few years ago, obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy View Post
    The only thing that ticked me off slightly about this movie (and only slightly, I still love it and it's awesome and such), is that I believe they used the "old, washed up agent" storyline too early.

    They've had ample opportunity to use it in the past with aging 007's (It should be noted that Never Say Never Again made a fleeting effort to do so) but they never bothered, instead pretending that Bond was ageless when he clearly wasn't. However, whilst you can definitely see those few extra years on Craig since he did Casino Royale, he's definitely nowhere near the age he could be to do a justice to a good "aging Bond" angle. I believe that with this reboot, they could've genuinely taken Craig into his maturer years and dealt with it as it came instead of pretending he hadn't aged or replacing him outright. And then once he truly had had enough, just re-cast and move Bond back a couple of years as they usually end up doing anyway.

    Not so much a complaint, more just thinking out loud.
    Yeah, while I enjoyed Bond's story in Skyfall, it made me wonder what direction they'll take him in for the final two Craig films - the "I'm getting too old for this" angle would have seemed like a good fit for one or both of those movies, as a means of signalling the end of Craig's time.

    I don't think I've ever been as interested in Bond as I am now, after becoming pretty tired of the formula in the Brosnan films. The Bond Blu-ray boxset has become much more enticing since Skyfall.

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    So Sam Mendes is back for the next Bond film.

    Quote Originally Posted by Empire
    "I am very pleased that by giving me the time I need to honour all my theatre commitments", Mendes said in a statement, "the producers have made it possible for me to direct Bond 24. I very much look forward to taking up the reins again, and to working with Daniel Craig, Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli for a second time.”

    Wilson and Broccoli added: "Following the extraordinary success of Skyfall, we're really excited to be working once again with Daniel Craig, Sam Mendes and John Logan.”
    It's not out until October 2015, so I imagine it'll be a while before any story details emerge. But it'll be fascinating to see his take on another Bond movie.

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    Yeah, shame that we'll have to wait so long, but I dont mind waiting for quality.

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    I was very late to this, as after Quantum of Solace and general cinema fatigue I didn't go to see Skyfall at the cinema, breaking my streak since Goldeneye. I do regret it now as this was fantastic. I do think they had ground to make up after QoS and they needed to make a more direct, high stakes film like this, rather than treading water with installments. Definintely interested to see another one with Craig and Mendes, even if I feel like it needs to be the last one.

    Still so many good, quality and not dumb homogenised action blockbusters coming out.

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    Spectre has Christoph Waltz as maybe/maybe not Blofeld. Batista's playing a henchman.

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    New TV spot for Spectre. I like the fact that this is following on from the previous Craig films. Looking forward to the car chase through Rome.


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    I love it. Craig is the best non-Connery Bond.

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    They were filming bond in Gresham St, London the other day, cant wait for this.

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    I saw Spectre yesterday. It's not bad, but pales in comparison to Skyfall/Casino Royale. My initial impression/reaction was that the first half was far too slow and that the first maybe hour and twenty minutes could have been much more effective if condensed into half an hour. It takes a long time to get going and the early plotting is so slow that it's hard to follow/care about. The last half picks up and is great, but that feels rushed towards the end, probably due to the slow plotting early on.

    It's still a good movie but is decidedly the third best of the Craig films.

    There are also bits where it calls back to the earlier Craig films and I found that making me miss those movies more than it adding to this one. I like Mendes and think he made the perfect Bond film in Skyfall, but I want someone else's vision in the next one.

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    I was worried about this. Mendes said after Skyfall he was just going to focus on directing plays... but then he was shown a page full of zeros. Word is mostly that this movie is a big step back.

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    The pre-credit sequence is fantastic. The helicopter stuff is great, as is the long shot of the parade and Bond making his way across the rooftop. I think the film falters after this because it tries to be more of a traditional Bond caper whilst remaining true to the more serious and grounded tone of the Craig era.

    There are lots of nice call-backs to classic Bond plot elements, but sometimes these are fleeting references rather than fully embracing the fun of those earlier films. There's a moment in the third-ish act where Bond starts mowing people down and there's a huge explosion. But it's over just as it starts to get going. The car chase around Rome is a big disappointment because you've seen the best of the "action" in the trailer and the rest is played for laughs, Craig going rogue doesn't really get the adrenaline pumping because he's already done it twice before. Waltz is fine, but his character's connection to Bond isn't earth shattering and yet the revelation is too understated. I think the tone is all over the place, but maybe it'll come across better on a rewatch.

    Atty is right - it's better than Quantum but not on the same level as Casino Royale or Skyfall. I think Mission Impossible Rogue Nation is a better film about a similar premise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    I think the film falters after this because it tries to be more of a traditional Bond caper whilst remaining true to the more serious and grounded tone of the Craig era.
    That's a bingo. It feels like it wants to be over the top but is afraid of doing so.

    Quote Originally Posted by VHS View Post
    I was worried about this. Mendes said after Skyfall he was just going to focus on directing plays... but then he was shown a page full of zeros. Word is mostly that this movie is a big step back.
    More of a step sideways, I'd say. They do establish some stuff that can be used in future movies here, but that doesn't really add to this film and may not be for the best going forward. There is a plot, but for so much of the film it felt like there wasn't one.

    I'm rewatching Skyfall right now and still find it brilliant and the best pure Bond movie, but am noticing a lot of stuff that Spectre flat out copied from it. Besides that, one thing, without getting into spoilers, that Spectre spent far too much time trying to do was to justify Quantom of Solace. That's just a waste of time. I don't hate that movie like others do, but spending time on earlier movies didn't help build the movie on screen.

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    Holy Shit is this thing loud in IMAX. Wife had to throw on her headphones. It was a bit too long, but really good when they got to the point. This films make you really want to travel to those places. You have to go a bit over the top when you are dealing with SPECTRE. He is fighting the Illumanti for Christ Sake. A least there was no super weapon. I like Skyfall the best and this edges out Casino, because as long as it was, it wasn't an hour of Celebrity Poker.

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    First 30 minutes was strong, but the villains have silly/incomprehensible motivations and the story is dependent on a continuity that doesn't exist. Disappointing in the material they came up with for Waltz and Fiennes. Waste of maybe the strongest cast a Bond movie has ever had.

    Really disappointed in this. Was super excited, but it's a lot closer to Quantum of Solace than Skyfall or Casino Royale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Law View Post
    First 30 minutes was strong, but the villains have silly/incomprehensible motivations and the story is dependent on a continuity that doesn't exist.
    what is silly/incomprehensible and what continuity doesnt exist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    what is silly/incomprehensible and what continuity doesnt exist?
    Yeah that continuity statement makes no sense. This era of Bond had been very good about keep things tied together. The call backs were used very well especially the Vespar interrogation tape. That was disturbing just to see the title.

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    All Bond movies suck.

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    That's not true. Only Skyfall sucked.

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    Fyi I have a phd in spy movies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    That's not true. Only Skyfall sucked.
    They all suck. Especially the ones with Daniel Craig.

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    Skyfall was brilliant. Went to see Spectre on Tues, was good but ending was a bit of a let down.

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    Supposedly Daniel Craig turned down $100 million to play Bond. What a cunt. Pay Tom Hardy $101 million to do it because he actually deserves it.

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    Please not Tom Hardy. He'll only do some stupid method warbling through it.

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    Like in Bronson and Inception and a ton of other movies where he didn't do that? Garble on a penis. Tom Hardy rules.

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    I would count Bronson in that. He's just not Bond material. Can we just stop mucking about and have Idris?

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    Where's the warble in Bronson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rogerer View Post
    I would count Bronson in that. He's just not Bond material. Can we just stop mucking about and have Idris?
    Would Elba have time given he's doing The Dark Tower?

    Actually the first one is probably going to bomb so yeah, just bring him in already.

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    I'm in on Idris as Bond but I feel like it's been talked about for so long now that it's getting tired and rarely do studios go with the guy fans clamor for, especially when it's a race change. We didn't get Donald Glover as Spider Man and we probably won't get this. Hardy isn't a bad shout, I think he'd be good. I don't want Loki from Avengers (Tom Hiddleston) which is what some rumors have been saying.

    I didn't see Spectre yet but Skyfall was good. I'm glad Craig turned it down though, I've had my fill of him as the character and we could use a refresh of the series.

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    Actually the more I look at Hiddleston in normal photos where he's not Loki... he does have the look for it. Could be a good fit. I don't know him from anything other than Avengers though so it's hard to get a feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beer-Belly View Post
    Supposedly Daniel Craig turned down $100 million to play Bond. What a cunt. Pay Tom Hardy $101 million to do it because he actually deserves it.
    Why is he a cunt for turning down money to do something he doesn't want to do when he already has enough money?

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    i do wish he'd do one more given how spectre ended. granted, it could easily be used as a send off for his version of the character, as well.

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    This might be weird but I just saw an Entertainment Tonight segment about how Tom Hiddleston's dating Taylor Swift and I'm now 100% on board with him as Bond. #TeamHiddleston

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    Bumping this. So we've got the news that Craig is back and not much else so far. Blade Runner 2049 director Denis Villeneuve is in talks to direct, that's exciting to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Law View Post
    Bumping this. So we've got the news that Craig is back and not much else so far. Blade Runner 2049 director Denis Villeneuve is in talks to direct, that's exciting to me.
    to get into rumors and speculation, it's being said that the new film will take inspiration from the novel never dream of dying by raymond benson as well as elements from OHMSS, which everybody who saw spectre would assume. apparent working title is 'shatterhand,' which is actually an alias of blofeld, so that's either just a placeholder or a giant sign of a central crux of the film. the plot of the novel seems whatever, the real pull is obviously how the stuff with madeleine and blofeld plays out.

    christoph waltz also recently said that he won't be returning as blofeld in the next film, citing the fact that blofeld has always been played by a new actor and that's the 'tradition,' and that he would've liked to return. i don't believe any of that, especially given how everyone flat out denied that franz oberhauser would end up being blofeld. i imagine it's just more smoke and mirrors.

    if you're a bond fan, i very much recommend the james bonding podcast with matt mira and matt gourley. it's one of my favorite podcasts, in general, cause the hosts are funny people, but especially so for the bond fan in me. over the course of a couple years they did a bunch of reviews/commentaries for all of the bond films, including never say never again, usually having some special guests like paul f thompkins, doug benson and paul scheer. they did a spectre episode and then went on hiatus for a year or more since there were no more movies, but then earwolf brought them back this past summer for a 'second season' where they're doing all the movies over again with new guests plus a lot of non-film topic shows, like ranking all the henchmen and imagineering a james bond theme park. they also did a ranking of all the themes as a special episode in december of 2016, which i figure might interest some.

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    The Matt and Matt podcast is one of my favorites. I like the fact they are trying to put out content even after their initial run of just doing the movies. Mira pointing out the dude behind M in Skyfall when they talk about the villain is the same dude that gets killed while watching the painting is a great catch.

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    Yeah, I've read some speculation that the movie will start with Bond retired and happily married, then his wife gets killed and he goes on the warpath. The article compared it to "Taken." Sounds good to me, I'm all for gritty and dark.

    I think if this is the last movie for Craig's Bond they should kill him off. Reboot the series. I'd like to see a younger actor, start back up early in Bond's career (or even show us his training as a Double O).

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    Looks solid. Rami Malek should make for a good villain.

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    Skyfall was so damn good, Spectre was not even close to memorable for me so I probably need to re-watch that. Bardem is the standard for me in this incarnation of Bond in terms of villains so let's see what Malek has.

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    Is it culturally relevant enough..?

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    Looks great. Hopefully this isn't just a gateway to 00Woke.

    Stoked for this.

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    I'm still holding out for James Bond Jr to show up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    I'm still holding out for James Bond Jr to show up.
    I like the theory that James Bond is just a code name, it would explain why different actors have played the part over the years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    I like the theory that James Bond is just a code name, it would explain why different actors have played the part over the years.
    That explains a lot

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    No Time to Die is a great Bond title btw. Also the posters look really good.

    None of that effects how good the movie is, but still. Way better name than Quantum of Solace or even Skyfall IMO. This is a classic bond title.

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    Somehow I've managed to not watch a single Bond film beginning-to-end. But with this new one coming out and it being the finale for Craig's run I'm gonna go ahead and make a run at his previous four in time for the April release date for NTtD.

    Just the clips and bits of what I've seen thus far of how the Daniel Craig Bond looks are far, far more enticing than the Bond's before his regardless of the praise for Connery or Moore, et al.

    So, for the sort of old school Bond fans ... are you happy/sad to see Craig hang up his license to kill? Is this a terrific/terrible entry point for myself as a Bond noob?

    I think this is a legit fascinating series and I'm pretty stoked to begin a chunk of it as I find espionage an excellent sort of subgenre and the quality of these films appears stellar from the outside looking in. Be nice to hear a little feedback from the more invested fans as a get this thing started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percussion View Post
    Somehow I've managed to not watch a single Bond film beginning-to-end. But with this new one coming out and it being the finale for Craig's run I'm gonna go ahead and make a run at his previous four in time for the April release date for NTtD.

    Just the clips and bits of what I've seen thus far of how the Daniel Craig Bond looks are far, far more enticing than the Bond's before his regardless of the praise for Connery or Moore, et al.

    So, for the sort of old school Bond fans ... are you happy/sad to see Craig hang up his license to kill? Is this a terrific/terrible entry point for myself as a Bond noob?

    I think this is a legit fascinating series and I'm pretty stoked to begin a chunk of it as I find espionage an excellent sort of subgenre and the quality of these films appears stellar from the outside looking in. Be nice to hear a little feedback from the more invested fans as a get this thing started.
    Good entry point if you're a Bond noob.

    I didn't really see any Bond until Pierce Brosnan, which I think most people in their late 30's would say that was their entry point. But going back and watching the Connery, Moore, Dalton, etc. it's kind of like if you're first time watching Batman was Christian Bale and then you watch the Adam West version. If you don't get too wrapped up in "oh the special effects are weak, the characters look goofy" and just appreciate the sign of the times, you will really enjoy going back and watching movies like "From Russia With Love", "Live and Let Die", "Diamonds are Forever", the list goes on.

    The music to the older Bond films attracts me more than anything to be honest. I love that sound of the 60's and 70's movie scores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percussion View Post
    Somehow I've managed to not watch a single Bond film beginning-to-end. But with this new one coming out and it being the finale for Craig's run I'm gonna go ahead and make a run at his previous four in time for the April release date for NTtD.

    Just the clips and bits of what I've seen thus far of how the Daniel Craig Bond looks are far, far more enticing than the Bond's before his regardless of the praise for Connery or Moore, et al.

    So, for the sort of old school Bond fans ... are you happy/sad to see Craig hang up his license to kill? Is this a terrific/terrible entry point for myself as a Bond noob?

    I think this is a legit fascinating series and I'm pretty stoked to begin a chunk of it as I find espionage an excellent sort of subgenre and the quality of these films appears stellar from the outside looking in. Be nice to hear a little feedback from the more invested fans as a get this thing started.
    Craig hanging it up is whatever. He hung it up already and then came back to the series so who knows if he'll do it again. If this movie breaks the bank and does over a billion and they want to pay him ungodly money to do it again in 5 years, for all we know he will come back. So him saying this is his last Bond movie again is meaningless to me. And if it is his last, I still don't care. The Craig films in this series have been fine but fairly unmemorable to me. Even the best regarded ones, Casino Royal and Skyfall, don't hold much of a place in my heart. They're fine thrillers but I'm not hankering to re-watch them.

    I would say it's a fine entry point to watch those 4 in advance of NTTD. There's more serialization in these 4 than in the old ones from what I recall. And they changed the tone with the Craig versions. They made a decision to modernize the format and go a little darker.

    Once you've done the new ones, if you're still interested, I would say you should hop around to the best reviewed ones rather than doing a chronological viewing. There isn't much need to watch the old ones in order from what I recall. Goldeneye, Goldfinger and Moonraker are my personal favorites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post

    Once you've done the new ones, if you're still interested, I would say you should hop around to the best reviewed ones rather than doing a chronological viewing. There isn't much need to watch the old ones in order from what I recall. Goldeneye, Goldfinger and Moonraker are my personal favorites.
    100% agree. There's just soooo many Bond movies. I've only seen 10-12 of the movies, I've actually only watched 2 of the Daniel Craig movies, Casino Royale and Skyfall, and they were really good. I also like Daniel Craig, very solid actor and his portrayal of Bond fits more with the last 10 years or so of action heroes. Out of all the Bond's, Craig seems like the one who would win if they all fought each other by any means necessary lol.

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    Something I didn't know was that the first person to ever play James Bond was an American. Barry Nelson. Literally just found this out. For fans of The Shining, Barry Nelson is the guy who interviews Jack at the beginning of the movie to oversee the Overlook Hotel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    Craig hanging it up is whatever. He hung it up already and then came back to the series so who knows if he'll do it again. If this movie breaks the bank and does over a billion and they want to pay him ungodly money to do it again in 5 years, for all we know he will come back. So him saying this is his last Bond movie again is meaningless to me. And if it is his last, I still don't care. The Craig films in this series have been fine but fairly unmemorable to me. Even the best regarded ones, Casino Royal and Skyfall, don't hold much of a place in my heart. They're fine thrillers but I'm not hankering to re-watch them.

    I would say it's a fine entry point to watch those 4 in advance of NTTD. There's more serialization in these 4 than in the old ones from what I recall. And they changed the tone with the Craig versions. They made a decision to modernize the format and go a little darker.

    Once you've done the new ones, if you're still interested, I would say you should hop around to the best reviewed ones rather than doing a chronological viewing. There isn't much need to watch the old ones in order from what I recall. Goldeneye, Goldfinger and Moonraker are my personal favorites.


    Sounds good all around. Thinking the 'modernized darker' tone is what's drawing me in as opposed to the 'classics'. Sound be fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percussion View Post
    Somehow I've managed to not watch a single Bond film beginning-to-end. But with this new one coming out and it being the finale for Craig's run I'm gonna go ahead and make a run at his previous four in time for the April release date for NTtD.

    Just the clips and bits of what I've seen thus far of how the Daniel Craig Bond looks are far, far more enticing than the Bond's before his regardless of the praise for Connery or Moore, et al.

    So, for the sort of old school Bond fans ... are you happy/sad to see Craig hang up his license to kill? Is this a terrific/terrible entry point for myself as a Bond noob?

    I think this is a legit fascinating series and I'm pretty stoked to begin a chunk of it as I find espionage an excellent sort of subgenre and the quality of these films appears stellar from the outside looking in. Be nice to hear a little feedback from the more invested fans as a get this thing started.
    Check out my Bond marathon thread for thoughts on the whole franchise. Iíll bump it as itís from a few years ago and might get pruned soon.

    The Craig franchise is a good entry point. Two excellent films in Casino Royale and Skyfall. Spectre is fine - it just tries to connect the previous films in a way that doesnít work. Quantum of Solace is the only real low point. Horribly edited and lacks all of the intelligence and style of Casino Royale which it directly follows up. In terms of the old films, The Spy Who Loved Me is my favourite. The likes of Goldfinger and Thunderball didnít land for me, but theyíre classics that everyone should check out,

    I think itís time for Craig to move on and Iím not sure where Bond goes from here. Mission Impossible has become the number one spy/action franchise for me. It is constantly topping itself in terms of stunt work in the way that the old Bond films did, it now has a settled team around the hero, they have yet to need to refresh Huntís character (and he works very well as a cipher unlike all of the Bond attributes that they stick to) and they have a Christopher McQuarrie signed on for another two films.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percussion View Post
    Somehow I've managed to not watch a single Bond film beginning-to-end. But with this new one coming out and it being the finale for Craig's run I'm gonna go ahead and make a run at his previous four in time for the April release date for NTtD.

    Just the clips and bits of what I've seen thus far of how the Daniel Craig Bond looks are far, far more enticing than the Bond's before his regardless of the praise for Connery or Moore, et al.

    So, for the sort of old school Bond fans ... are you happy/sad to see Craig hang up his license to kill? Is this a terrific/terrible entry point for myself as a Bond noob?

    I think this is a legit fascinating series and I'm pretty stoked to begin a chunk of it as I find espionage an excellent sort of subgenre and the quality of these films appears stellar from the outside looking in. Be nice to hear a little feedback from the more invested fans as a get this thing started.
    like others have said, the craig era is good to jump in on because it's self-contained. casino royale is based off the first fleming novel and the film literally starts off with a cold open of him gaining his 00 status, and all of the subsequent films for craig have threads that run through them that are far more blatant than the films of the past bond's, so it's very well set up for fresh eyes. they definitely took a lot of inspiration from the borne franchise for how they were going to update bond for the new millennium, grounding the plots and setpieces and moving away from invisible cars, ice palaces and surfing on tsunamis.

    i would recommend watching casino royale and quantum of solace fairly close together in order to get the most out of QoS. QoS unfortunately suffered from a lot of issues because of the writer's guild strike, with the final script being completed a couple hours before the strike began. it's a direct sequel to casino royale and does a bunch of cool things stylistically, and works much better if you don't leave a ton of time between viewing the two. i saw quantum in the theaters opening weekend, and hadn't watched casino royale for well over a year, and was confused about what the hell was going on. consensus opinion amongst fans regarding QoS has begun to turn more positively the last couple of years, though it's been a long time since i've watched it so i can't speak to that, personally.

    craig is now the longest tenured bond, with 14 years in the role, overtaking roger moore. so while i love him as bond, i'm more than happy to be moving onto a new bond soon. you can definitely tell these films have taken a toll on him. i've always gotten the impression that craig wanted the chance to do a 'classic' kind of bond film, more akin to a roger moore era film, but that never seemed to be in the cards given the tone and scope of his series. i think he would've been fantastic in something like that, so i'm a bit sad we will never get it. i really wouldn't mind the next iteration of the franchise to move away from the heavy action and angst of these craig films and back to something a bit more outlandish.

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    While my favorite Bond is Brosnan's 007 in Goldeneye, I'd put Craig's tenure over Brosnan's by a mile. 2 outstandings and 2 mehs beat 1 outstanding and 3 shits.

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    Not to mention where's Daniel Craig's legendary N64 video game???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    i've always gotten the impression that craig wanted the chance to do a 'classic' kind of bond film, more akin to a roger moore era film, but that never seemed to be in the cards given the tone and scope of his series. i think he would've been fantastic in something like that, so i'm a bit sad we will never get it.
    I think Spectre was a partial move towards that - there was a lot more silliness with things like the secret desert lair, the double ticking clock finale etc which haven't been features of the Daniel Craig films at all. From the new trailer, where the last shot is of him spinning a car in a circle while the headlamps turn into miniguns tells me that tonally it will probably be closer to that as well, compared to Casino Royale which is MUCH more grounded (the only bit of classic Bond silliness is the car chase in the airport).

    Not coincidentally, Casino Royale is also the best Bond film ever. I don't even think it's that close, it's an absolutely brilliant film. I'm not really a fan of the campy Roger Moore shit so I'm apprehensive about the new one if it does go in that direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Check out my Bond marathon thread for thoughts on the whole franchise...
    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    like others have said, the craig era is good to jump in on because it's self-contained...
    Super appreciate the feedback fellas. Really, really looking forward to this. Still not sure the classics will tempt me enough. Perhaps after the Craig run I'll be still hungry. But for now this little era sounds just right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    I would recommend watching casino royale and quantum of solace fairly close together in order to get the most out of QoS. QoS unfortunately suffered from a lot of issues because of the writer's guild strike, with the final script being completed a couple hours before the strike began. it's a direct sequel to casino royale and does a bunch of cool things stylistically, and works much better if you don't leave a ton of time between viewing the two. i saw quantum in the theaters opening weekend, and hadn't watched casino royale for well over a year, and was confused about what the hell was going on. consensus opinion amongst fans regarding QoS has begun to turn more positively the last couple of years, though it's been a long time since i've watched it so i can't speak to that, personally
    Watching them close together definitely helps. While I have a lot of issues with the film, it was genuinely exciting to see a direct sequel and how the film starts off right after Casino ends with the car chase. I wasn’t big on Camille or Greene’s characters or how Mathis was used. But I think I actually prefer the Quantum scene at the opera to the similar scene of Bond listening in to the meeting in Spectre. Overall, the film is basically Craig’s version of Licence to Kill.

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    I am legit worried they are going to use a lot of Spectre pieces to somehow make it seem like a good film.

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    I am legit worried they are going to use a lot of Spectre pieces to somehow make it seem like it was a good film.

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    We get it, you are worried.

    Hope this film can be more like Skyfall and less like Spectre.

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    I just heard Billie Eilish's Bond theme. Errr, it's fine I guess? Except it sounds pretty conspicuously like the one that Sam Smith did for Spectre. You can literally sing the first couple of lines over the top of each other.

    Pretty weak effort, in my eyes. I thought Writing's On The Wall was pretty good considering I'm not a Sam Smith fan, but this is just an inferior version.

    What's that you say, my top 5? Sure. In no particular order:

    1. You Only Live Twice
    2. Tomorrow Never Dies
    3. You Know My Name (Casino Royale)
    4. From Russia With Love
    5. View To A Kill

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    Adele's 'Skyfall' was really good.

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    Looking forward to hearing Billie's mumblennial theme on the big screen.

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    I Billie.

    Never heard a Bond theme I liked though.

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    No Time to Die has a runtime of 2 hours and 43 minutes, the longest Bond movie ever. That seems excessively long, but I suppose it gives me confidence that the movie will be of high quality. If it wasn't playing well in test screenings surely they wouldn't let it release at that runtime.

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    That sounds outrageously long. I thought Skyfall felt very long at 2hr 24.

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    MGM, Universal and Bond producers, Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli, announced today that after careful consideration and thorough evaluation of the global theatrical marketplace, the release of NO TIME TO DIE will be postponed until November 2020. The film will be released in the U.K. on November 12, 2020 with worldwide release dates to follow, including the US launch on November 25, 2020. The originally scheduled release was for April 2020. This is due to the coronavirus.

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    I was just going to come in here and ask why they are releasing it in April, as from what I recall going back to Pierce Brosnan, all Bond films are released in November/December.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    MGM, Universal and Bond producers, Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli, announced today that after careful consideration and thorough evaluation of the global theatrical marketplace, the release of NO TIME TO DIE will be postponed until November 2020. The film will be released in the U.K. on November 12, 2020 with worldwide release dates to follow, including the US launch on November 25, 2020. The originally scheduled release was for April 2020. This is due to the coronavirus.
    Fucking stupid. Still catering to the Chinese.

    Ugh, why does everything have to be "made in china" What happened to the random "Made in Brazil" products???

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    More that they fear world wide movie theaters are going to be shut down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    More that they fear world wide movie theaters are going to be shut down.
    Maybe. Pretty much everything movie related in the West revolves around what China wants so I wouldn't be shocked if they were thinking "We're going to lose out on that Chinese demographic let's wait!"

    I am curious though.....What is the American equivalent to James Bond? I'm trying to think of a character who has 30-40 movies about them. I guess we'd be looking at some comic book characters. Superman, Batman, but I can't think of anyone that reminds me of what they do with Bond.

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    Jack Ryan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimeSplitter View Post
    Jack Ryan?
    Oh wow after googling "Jack Ryan movies" I had no clue that movies like Patriot Games, Sum of All Fears, etc were "Jack Ryan" Honestly I've probably seen these movies once, maybe lol. But that is cool.

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    Yeah, not quite as extensive a list as Bond, but definitely has a solid catalog and the Amazon show is pretty good.

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    It's an excuse, because it's almost four hours long to do massive cuts and reshoots.

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    Where are you hearing/reading this? A google search does not show any of this info...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimeSplitter View Post
    Where are you hearing/reading this? A google search does not show any of this info...
    It’s 2 hours 45 minutes (roughly). While they could use this time to change the editing and super long runtime, there’s nothing indicating they will do so. Surely they are still happy with their final edit and this delay has nothing to do with the actual content of the film.

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    Skyfall was 2 24
    Spectre was 2 40

    Run time does not seem to be an issue.

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    Why are they assuming that the coronavirus will no longer be an issue by November? Pretty big assumption to make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beer-Belly View Post
    Why are they assuming that the coronavirus will no longer be an issue by November? Pretty big assumption to make.
    Because realistically it's not even an issue now other than in the one market that apparently matters the most. And even then, we're talking about a population of 1 billion. The number of people sick are like a teardrop in the ocean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beer-Belly View Post
    Why are they assuming that the coronavirus will no longer be an issue by November? Pretty big assumption to make.
    I think it's more precautionary than predictive. Rather than leave it ambiguous on when it will come out, they show they're not leaving it out in limbo by establishing a new release date. If it's still an issue, they'll repeat the series of events.

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    At least Daniel Craig is hosting SNL this week to promote a November release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Because realistically it's not even an issue now other than in the one market that apparently matters the most. And even then, we're talking about a population of 1 billion. The number of people sick are like a teardrop in the ocean.
    The World Health Organization disagrees that it's only an issue in China.

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    It makes sense to delay it if theaters are being closed in China, Italy, and France. I'd assume Bond is big internationally. No reason for the studio to miss out on money.

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    Can they take this time to do a better theme song?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Because realistically it's not even an issue now other than in the one market that apparently matters the most. And even then, we're talking about a population of 1 billion. The number of people sick are like a teardrop in the ocean.
    The rest of the world greatly disagrees.

    Quote Originally Posted by TimeSplitter View Post
    Can they take this time to do a better theme song?

    I wish they would, but they're not going to change anything about Billie's theme now that she's an award winner. Personally, I can't stomach her music style. It's just glorified mumbling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VHS View Post
    The rest of the world greatly disagrees.




    I wish they would, but they're not going to change anything about Billie's theme now that she's an award winner. Personally, I can't stomach her music style. It's just glorified mumbling.
    Yeah well we're also on a planet where the fucking beer company is taking a massive hit because of it's name so the rest of the world is who exactly? You?

    Again, whatever you're trying to accomplish by chiming in to many of my posts here lately with ignorance isn't going to do you any favors here or in life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Yeah well we're also on a planet where the fucking beer company is taking a massive hit because of it's name so the rest of the world is who exactly? You?

    Again, whatever you're trying to accomplish by chiming in to many of my posts here lately with ignorance isn't going to do you any favors here or in life.
    Bro. Let's quell this right now, yes?

    I'm not latching onto you or anything. You've been posting a lot of drivel lately, more than usual, and I'm only reacting to it more openly. It's no skin of my back, and likewise none off yours. If you're not enjoying being replied to, then I don't know what to tell ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VHS View Post
    Bro. Let's quell this right now, yes?

    I'm not latching onto you or anything. You've been posting a lot of drivel lately, more than usual, and I'm only reacting to it more openly. It's no skin of my back, and likewise none off yours. If you're not enjoying being replied to, then I don't know what to tell ya.
    Your posts are very condescending and have really no meaning behind them other than trying to be slick and I'm not a fan of people like you.

    If you take issue to what I'm saying about the coronavirus and have some actual shit to back it up to dispute, there's a thread in the Asylum that I'll gladly take the time to look at your stats that blow what I've said in a Bond thread out the water.

    I'm not your bro, I'm not your guy, I'm not your buddy, so enough of the nonsense and let me search for treasure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    I'm not your chief, pal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Your posts are very condescending and have really no meaning behind them other than trying to be slick and I'm not a fan of people like you.

    If you take issue to what I'm saying about the coronavirus and have some actual shit to back it up to dispute, there's a thread in the Asylum that I'll gladly take the time to look at your stats that blow what I've said in a Bond thread out the water.

    I'm not your bro, I'm not your guy, I'm not your buddy, so enough of the nonsense and let me search for treasure.

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    VHS is an absolute drain on the forum and contributes nothing except to necropost his own shit, pointless thread on a weekly basis to an audience of nobody. Hope that helps.

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