Bellator Fighting Championships

**Dubya** · June 25th, 2012, 12:46 PM

Some news ..

Pat Curran will defend his FW title against Patricio "pitbull" Freire at Bellator 73 on August 24th. Awesome.
Marcos Galvao will fight Luis Nogueira in the FW tournament finals on the same card.. along with the light-heavyweight tourney finals.
Marcus Aurelio has signed with Bellator and will make his debut on the card as well.

King Mo has said that he plans on competing at both light heavyweight and heavyweight in Bellator and plans to take both titles. Possible.. he's fought at HW before with success. He'd could definitely take the LHW title .. although him and Travis Wiuff would be interesting .. I think he could get to the finals of the HW tournament.. but Cole Konrad is a fucking monster, so I don't know how that would go for him.

He also plans on capturing a TNA title and wants Rampage or Roy Nelson to be his tag partner. I don't think Dana would let Roy do it, but Rampage will be a free agent after his next fight.. I'm sure Spike and Bellator and TNA would all love to have him too. King Mo is apparently going to Ohio Valley at the end of the summer, when his knee heals up. He's very excited about doing MMA and Pro Wresting. It will be interesting too. It could never work for Bobby Lashley cuz he was in a promotion on a different network.. too many conflicts there. With Bellator and TNA both being on Spike.. the idea can work a lot better.

**OD50** · June 25th, 2012, 1:05 PM

Mo KO'd Wiuff in two minutes last time, I'm sure he could do it again.

**Dubya** · June 25th, 2012, 5:22 PM

Wiuff is intense .. the dude cuts like 50+ lbs to make 205. He looks like fucking Brock almost. He's insanely huge at 205.

**UncannyIowan** · June 25th, 2012, 5:33 PM

Which is all the more reason he shouldn't fight King Mo. If King Mo killed him when Wiuff didn't even have to cut, dropping 50lbs would almost seem worse for Wiuff wouldn't it? All fuckin drained going into a fight with a dude who crushes jobber HW's.....Ouch!

**Dubya** · July 18th, 2012, 8:56 PM

Main Card

Welterweight Tournament Final
Bryan "the beast" Baker
vs. Karl "the psycho" Amoussou

Light Heavyweight Tournament Semi-Finals
Emanuel Newton vs. Attila Vegh
Travis Wiuff vs. Tim Carpenter

Paul Daley vs. Rudy Bears
Marius Zaromskis vs. Waachiim Spiritwolf (rubber match)

Undercard

Ben Saunders vs. Brian Warren
Shannon Slack vs. Matt McCook
Chris Barnett vs. Tom Sauer
Raul Amaya vs. Kenny Moss
Paul Barrow vs. Jason Carapelluci
Ryan DeRocher vs. Julien Williams

promo spot
http://www.bellator.com/mediaPortal/...dbml?id=886283

Should honestly be a fucking sweet card and I would encourage you to watch.

**Dubya** · July 21st, 2012, 12:24 PM

**Dubya** · September 12th, 2012, 8:08 PM

Bellator Heavyweight Champion, Cole Konrad, has decided to retire.

He probably just saw the writing on the wall that he wasn't going to be able to get out of Bellator anytime soon and they weren't going to be able to bring him any decent heavyweights to fight. I think it kinda sucks. The guy was very talented and had a ton of potential. His grappling really is top-notch. His striking was coming along well too. He was never all that impressive-looking, but the man really was a beast on the ground and in the clinch. Would've loved to see him against some top competition.

**thetony** · September 13th, 2012, 11:19 AM

I'm pretty sure I could watch a Zaromskis/Spiritwolf fight every weekend. Make it happen, Bellator.

**Dubya** · September 13th, 2012, 1:07 PM

Yeah no shit and if they did fight every weekend .. 52 fights .. they'd probably only come out with about 12 decisive fights. Lol.

**Dubya** · September 28th, 2012, 6:33 PM

Bellator 74
tonight - mtv2 and mmajunkie.com

Lyman Good vs. Jim Wallhead (ww tourney 1st round)
Marius Zaromskis vs. Nordine Taleb (ww tourney 1st round)
Michail Tsarev vs. Tim Welch (ww tourney 1st round)
Andrey Koreshkov vs. Jordan Smith (ww tourney 1st round)

Alexandre Bezerra vs. Matt McCook
Casey Johnson vs. Will Martinez
Munah Holland vs. Michelle Ould
Phillipe Nover vs. Derrick Kennington
Brylan Van Artsdalen vs. Jay Haas
Kenny Foster vs. Claudio Ledesma

Excited to see Koreshkov .. I've heard a lot about him and he's supposed to be a monster. Nate Quarry mentioned him on Uncensored Live last night too.. he's got some really good standup.

**kangus** · September 28th, 2012, 7:04 PM

Whoa I just checked Andrey Koreshkov's record. That guy doesn't fuck around.

**Dubya** · September 28th, 2012, 8:04 PM

Yeah, he's definitely not a fan of decisions. I've seen his other Bellator fights and a couple of his older russian fights .. the dude is pretty well-rounded. He has very good striking and pretty impressive sub game too.

One thing Bellator is really good at (and they kinda have to be) is finding good international talent.

**Dubya** · October 1st, 2012, 6:31 PM

**kangus** · October 1st, 2012, 7:32 PM

Dub, our boy Koreshkov had some trouble in his fight. Whatever, he probably just wanted to keep the crowd interested.

**Dubya** · October 1st, 2012, 8:40 PM

He did have some trouble .. I actually thought he lost to be honest.

**Dubya** · October 12th, 2012, 11:38 AM

Bellator 76 (tonight)

MAIN CARD (MTV2, 8 p.m. ET)

Eddie Alvarez vs. Patricky "Pitbull" Freire
Nazareno Malegarie vs. Rad Martinez - featherweight tourney opening round
Wagnney Fabiano vs. Akop Stepanyan - featherweight tourney opening round
Mike Richman vs. Jeremy Spoon - featherweight tourney opening round
Cody Bollinger vs. Shahbulat Shamhalaev - featherweight tourney opening round

PRELIMINARY CARD (7 p.m. ET)

Jason Fischer vs. Kyle Prepolec
Chad Laprise vs. Ainsley Robinson
Simon Marini vs. Ali Mokdad
A.J. Matthews vs. Dom O'Grady
Nayeb Hezam vs. Magomedrasul Khasbulaev

**OD50** · October 12th, 2012, 12:16 PM

Excited for Alvarez/Freire, great stylistical match-up as well as possibly being Alvarez last fight with Bellator. Kind of similar to Chandler/Aldo as in it being boxer/wrestler vs BJJ/Muay Thai. Like Fanny Batter said earlier, high stakes in this one.

And no, I'm not saying Freire is anywhere near the level of Jose Aldo. [/disclaimer]

**Dubya** · October 12th, 2012, 12:39 PM

Freire and Aldo? WHAT?!?! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE !!!

**Fanny Batter** · October 12th, 2012, 12:45 PM

Should be a good fight for sure. Freire himself only recently lost to Lloyd Woodard thought so he's not a world beater. Problem for both guys is that Hawn gets the next shot, THEN the winner of the tournament starting next week, so the winner is at the back of a queue anyway. I doubt Eddie will be chomping at the bit to have to have three more fights to get a shot at the Bellator title when he could get a UFC title shot with the right 3 wins a la Ben Henderson. I think the fact that it is such high stakes for Eddie is what makes it great, as Freire will likely get in the next tournament regardless of the result here.

Rick Hawn is a bad man by the way. Him vs. Chandler will be AWESOME.

**OD50** · October 12th, 2012, 1:10 PM

Originally Posted by OD50

Excited for Alvarez/Freire, great stylistical match-up as well as possibly being Alvarez last fight with Bellator. Kind of similar to Chandler/Aldo as in it being boxer/wrestler vs BJJ/Muay Thai. Like Fanny Batter said earlier, high stakes in this one.

And no, I'm not saying Freire is anywhere near the level of Jose Aldo. [/disclaimer]

GAH!

Of course I mean Chad Mendes/Jose Aldo. Always get Chad and Chandler confused.

**blackening** · October 12th, 2012, 10:09 PM

That was crazy end to a crazy fight. Wow.

**Mark Hammer** · October 12th, 2012, 10:12 PM

So it looks like there is no reason Alvarez' next fight won't be in the Octagon.

**Mark Hammer** · October 12th, 2012, 10:22 PM

@danawhite
@Ealvarezfight congrats Bro!!! Let's talk

**OD50** · October 13th, 2012, 6:55 AM

HEAD KICK!!

That's my boy Eddie.

**OD50** · October 13th, 2012, 7:13 AM

So, when we gettin' Alvarez/Melendez in the UFC?

I think Alvarez/Thomson could be a fun fight too.

**Fanny Batter** · October 13th, 2012, 10:14 AM

Good for Eddie, one of the most consistent and fan friendly fighters out there. He has every chance of going far in the UFC, can't wait for the knockdown-dragout fights he brings to the table!

**Olympus** · October 13th, 2012, 11:33 AM

Even though Frankie has probably dropped down for good, Alvarez vs. Edgar would be AMAZING.

**Dubya** · October 13th, 2012, 11:54 AM

**OD50** · October 13th, 2012, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by Olympus

Even though Frankie has probably dropped down for good, Alvarez vs. Edgar would be AMAZING.

They are kind of best friends and training partners so it isn't very likely to happen any time soon. Both have said that they would fight each other if there were no other options though (as in one of them being UFC champ and the other #1 contender). That's a really cool attitude in this day and age of training partners flat out refusing to fight each other me thinks.

Edgar is faster, has better technical boxing and defense, Eddie is a lot bigger/stronger and has way more punching power. Wrestling is fairly even while I give the submission skills to Alvarez. Both have tons of heart and cardio. Eddie's main achilles heel is that he is super agressive and is always pushing forward, very fan-friendly style but that also leads to him being tagged and dropped quite a bit. And it cost him dearly in the first Aoki fight.

But yeah, I think that it would be a pretty awesome fight for sure.

**Dubya** · October 13th, 2012, 12:28 PM

http://www.spike.com/video-clips/zw1...e-extended-cut

**OD50** · October 13th, 2012, 12:53 PM

I'm quite excited for Bellator's move to Spike. Should be good

/Best part is that the shows will pop up earlier when they air on Spike. I'm about to watch 76 with Russian commentary, nobody seems to have MTV2. :/

**Mark Hammer** · October 18th, 2012, 5:19 AM

Mmajunkie is reporting that Eddie Alvarez is open to staying with Bellator and is set to meet with Viacom execs soon to discuss his future with them.

**OD50** · October 18th, 2012, 5:26 AM

Yeah, he was on the MMA Hour yesterday talking about that. But to be fair, he must have contract talks with Viacom/Bellator before negotiating with anyone else and he would be stupid to say 'no way I'm signing with Bellator' before that. I think he can start talking to other promotions in 90-days.

Eddie's goal is probably to get the highest Viacom offer he can possibly get and then let the UFC trying to match it after the 90-day period is up. Viacom has some deep pockets and I can imagine they'd want Eddie around for the move to Spike! while Dana and Lorenza really want him in the UFC. Eddie will probably be getting offered even more than he is actually worth because of this.

It's a good time to be Eddie Alvarez right now I reckon.

**Dubya** · October 18th, 2012, 2:49 PM

Yeah, that's true.. Viacom has some seriously deep pockets and if they really want to keep him.. they probably can. He's almost certainly worth more to them than he is to the UFC.

**Dubya** · October 20th, 2012, 11:35 AM

Some pretty damn good fights last night in the LW tourney.. Jansen vs. Saadulaev, Clementi vs. Sarnavskiy, and Tirloni vs. Nazare were all great fights.

highlights - http://www.spike.com/video-clips/1ln...-77-highlights

**Dubya** · October 22nd, 2012, 1:49 PM

Round 1 of the Bellator Lightweight Tourney

Some good fights here boys.. the first 3, especially the first 2, are really good fights .. the 4th is decent, but just not as good as the others.

**Dubya** · October 26th, 2012, 12:48 PM

the card for tonight ..

MAIN CARD (MTV2, 8 p.m. ET)

Lyman Good vs. Michail Tsarev - welterweight-tourney semifinals
Andrey Koreshkov vs. Marius Zaromskis - welterweight-tourney semifinals
Alvin Robinson vs. Daniel Straus
Brian Rogers vs. Dominique Steele

PRELIMINARY CARD (Spike.com, 6 p.m. ET)

Shaun Asher vs. Jason Butcher
Zoila Gurgel vs. Casey Noland
Billy Horne vs. Trey Houston
Jared Combs vs. Mikkel Parlo
Rocky Edwards vs. Rob Hanna
Justin McNally vs. David Blattman

Pretty good main card here.

Gotta say that its kinda sad and pathetic that they have their only women's champion (zoila gurgel) on the undercard in her hometown.
I mean, have you ever seen a card with a champion on the undercard?

**Fanny Batter** · October 26th, 2012, 5:21 PM

It's not like Brian Rogers vs. Dominique Steele matters either - odd stuff. Maybe Spike has no interest in women?

**Dubya** · October 26th, 2012, 5:31 PM

Agreed. Strauss should be on there because he's the 145 no.1 contender, just taking a fight while he waits for Curran to heal. He's a top guy, so he should be there.

I know they like Rogers, but c'mon.. she's one of their champions.. and she's one of the top 5 women fighters in the world.. and its her hometown. It's absurd.

**OD50** · October 27th, 2012, 1:46 PM

Man, fighters never cease to amaze me with their 'confidence'.. Alvin Robinson said with a straight face that he believes he's the best 155'er in the world, then he went out to the cage and got submitted by Daniel Straus..

Looking forward to the Koreshkov/Good finals, shoud be interesting. Good probably takes it via superior ground game and being built like a brick shithouse. Koreshkov has some wicked striking though.

**Dubya** · October 27th, 2012, 7:39 PM

Yeah those were some good fights. Daniel Strauss is impressive. Definitely a top 145'r. Can't wait to see him fight Curran. That should be a great fight.

That Steele kid that Rogers fought is tough as nails .. for such a young kid, he looked impressive to me. They should give him a tourney slot or let him be an alternate.. give him another fight at least. They tried to feed him to Rogers and there were times when I thought he might get a win.

Koreshkov did look impressive, taking out Zaromskis. I agree with you that Good should be able to take it though and get his rematch with Askren .. if he gets past Karl Ammousou, who is a beast in his own right.

**OD50** · October 28th, 2012, 4:24 AM

Koreshkov, Good and Amoussou are all pretty exciting fighters, can't wait to see Askren hump them for 25 minutes..

I'm guessing Koreshkov has the least chance of beating Askren, lacking too much in the wrestling/ground game department. Amoussou at least has the Judo background and some pretty dynamic submissions if (when) he ends up on his back. Good has improved his ground game a lot and is also beastly strong at WW, he should at least do better than the first time.

**OD50** · October 28th, 2012, 6:04 AM

Great stoppage in the Zaromskis/Koreshkov fight btw..

**Dubya** · October 28th, 2012, 4:33 PM

Yeah that was fucking terrible .. Jimmy Smith was about to climb the cage and tackle the guy himself.

**Dubya** · November 4th, 2012, 1:31 PM

The fights from Bellator this week .. all of which are pretty damn good. Bellator's been on a real good-show stream lately.

**Dubya** · November 9th, 2012, 5:18 PM

Tonight's card ..

MAIN CARD (MTV2)

Owen Evinger vs. Joe Warren
Wagnney Fabiano vs. Rad Martinez - featherweight-tourney semifinal
Vinicius Queiroz vs. Alexander Volkov - heavyweight-tourney semifinal
Darryl Cobb vs. Brett Cooper

PRELIMINARY CARD (Spike.com)

Brandon Girtz vs. Mike Quinones
Robert Otani vs. Cristiano Souza
Cosmo Alexandre vs. Josh Quayhagen
Sky Moiseichik vs. Shanon Slack
Mike Bernhard vs. Joe Vedepo
Ryan DeRocher vs. Taylor Krahl

I'll be tweeting on the RajahForums account during the event at #Bellator, discussing the fights with people to try and get the forum name and link out there more. If you end up watching (and you should cuz Bellator has been dynamite good this season!), feel free to join in on the discussion and re-tweet the forum link for more people to see. I'm going to start doing this for all the live events I can. When its a bigger one and we're all on MSN chatting about it, we can take votes on the scores and tweet the RAJAH SCORE and things like that.

**OD50** · November 9th, 2012, 5:32 PM

Interested in Cosmo/Quayhagen and slightly interested in seeing Warren again after getting KTFO twice.

**Dubya** · November 9th, 2012, 5:42 PM

It's a good card really.. if you keep up with Bellator, its not as no-name as it seems.

Warren said the other day that he has sworn off 145 lbs and will stick to 135 lbs. .. thank god.

Cosmo/Quayhagen should be good. All the main card fights should be good .. I'm looking forward to seeing Shannon Slack again and how he rebounds from his first loss. The kid has some of the best pure wrestling I've seen, but he got handled pretty bad in his last fight.

**OD50** · November 12th, 2012, 6:28 AM

Pretty good event. Glad Cosmo won, high-level strikers doing good always warms my old heart.

Hard not to root for Rad Martinez, dude can't have it easy taking care of his dad like that full-time. His wife was hot though..

Main event wasn't the most exciting, but good for Warren he needed a rebound win after getting seriously KTFO twice in a row.

Exited for Bellator 82 with the Good/Koreshkov WW finals.

**Dubya** · November 12th, 2012, 9:21 AM

I thought that win sucked for Warren. It just confirmed what everyone was starting to suspect.. he's nothing more than a high-level wrestler. His striking is terrible. Just seriously terrible.

Both of the tourney fights were brilliant.

**Dubya** · November 12th, 2012, 4:21 PM

For those interested ..

**Dubya** · November 17th, 2012, 12:37 PM

Dave Jansen vs. Ricardo Tirloni .. fucking awesome fight.

Rich Clementi vs. Marcin Held .. pretty damn good.

Marlon Sandro vs. Dustin Neace .. awesome sub

**OD50** · November 26th, 2012, 3:19 PM

So, Bellator has finally decided to allow for title rematches. Good, I like that.

**thetony** · January 17th, 2013, 11:31 PM

First event on spike tonight. Started off with a title fight between Curran/Pitbull which had me wondering when the last time an mma event had started off with a title event. Maybe never?

Headlining with a title fight as well between Hawn/Chandler.

**The Rick** · January 17th, 2013, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by thetony

First event on spike tonight. Started off with a title fight between Curran/Pitbull which had me wondering when the last time an mma event had started off with a title event. Maybe never?

Headlining with a title fight as well between Hawn/Chandler.

I just caught the last two rounds. Curran just countered the shit out of Pitbull in the final round. Liked what I saw though.

**thetony** · January 17th, 2013, 11:44 PM

Pitbull arguably took the first two rounds so this decision could be interesting. I have Curran one up, though. Pulled it off in the end.

**OD50** · January 19th, 2013, 2:01 AM

Bellator 85 averaged 938,000 viewers and peaked with 1,2 million for the Curran/Pitbull fight. Good for them.

And Chandler is a little beast.

**Dubya** · February 6th, 2013, 7:26 PM

Tomorrow night's card ..

MAIN (Spike TV, 10 p.m. ET)

Maiquel Falcao vs. Alexander Shlemenko - for vacant middleweight title
Marlon Sandro vs. Akop Stepanyan - featherweight tournament opening round
Mitch Jackson vs. Mike Richman - featherweight tournament opening round
Fabricio Guerreiro vs. Magomedrasul Khasbulaev - featherweight tournament opening round

PRELIMINARY (Spike.com, 8 p.m. ET)

Alexandre Bezerra vs. Genair da Silva - featherweight tournament opening round
George Hickman vs. Stephen Upchurch
Clay Harvison vs. Ururahy Rodrigues
Kelvin Tiller vs. Dave Vitkay
Shane Crenshaw vs. Ronnie Rogers
Jerrid Burke vs. Joe Elmore

**Dubya** · February 6th, 2013, 9:16 PM

Pat Curran will defend his featherweight title against season 7 tournament winner Daniel Straus at Bellator 95 on April 4th.

Should be an excellent fight. I think Straus could be a big challenge for Curran. He's really big and strong for 145 and has some pretty underrated striking to go with his stellar ground game. They're really pretty similar fighters in style. I'll take Curran, but Straus could really surprise some people.

**OD50** · February 8th, 2013, 5:28 AM

It annoys me that Bellator shows takes fucking forever to get uploaded despite airing on Spike!

**Olympus** · February 8th, 2013, 11:35 AM

Last night was a pretty good card with fun finishes. You don't see a finish like we saw in the Shlemenko/Falcao fight very often.

**Dubya** · February 8th, 2013, 2:05 PM

Yeah, that was a sweet body shot from Shlemenko. Overall good night of fights. I think Akop got robbed of his bonus round. I don't dispute the point deduction, but I thought he easily won the first round. He was far more aggressive and landed a higher volume of strikes. The 1 takedown that Sandro got lasted like 5 seconds, so I don't think he should win the whole round because of it.

Looking forward to Dantas vs. Galvao for the Bantamweight title next week. Should be a good fight.

**OD50** · February 9th, 2013, 8:30 AM

WTF? Did I just see Kung Fu Panda ref the Marlon Sandro fight?

Tough break for the Russian, he was pretty much owning Sandro for the first two rounds.

**Dubya** · February 9th, 2013, 7:26 PM

I thought so too. I'm betting if anyone goes down with injury, that guy will be the first they call. His striking looked crisp once he loosened up. I have a feeling they'll bring him back because he seemed like a pretty fun guy to watch.

LOL WHAT WAS WITH THAT REF'S HAIR??!?!

**thetony** · February 22nd, 2013, 12:32 AM

King Mo was just knocked out by Emanuel Newton in the semis of the light-heavyweight tourney.

Had his hands down for the entire first round -- was caught with a spinning back fist. Didn't see the earlier fights, but I heard that Babalu was knocked out by a spinning back fist earlier in the night as well.

**Vice** · March 1st, 2013, 1:28 PM

**Seanny One Ball** · March 1st, 2013, 1:35 PM

Hahahah who the heck is that guy? Like a badass Dan Hardy.

**Olympus** · March 1st, 2013, 1:41 PM

He's a freakin' human Gumby is who he is.

I was impressed by Ed West last night. That guy is really entertaining.

Title fight was okay. M'Pumbu just never seemed to find his comfort zone and was handily beaten. I could see why *someone* might have given him rounds 2 and/or 3, but I had it as a clean sweep for Vegh.

**OD50** · March 1st, 2013, 1:57 PM

I wonder how iron clad Holly Holm's contract is with Bellator. Would love to see her get 2-3 more W's and then head over to the UFC. Rousey, McMann and Holm would be three solid pillars to build the 135-pound division on, considering their super-legit resumes from Judo, Wrestling and boxing. Kind of like Hogan/Warrior/Savage in the 80's WWF, Austin/Rock/HHH in the 90's (or maybe Austin/Rock/Foley?) or Couture/Liddell/Ortiz in the mid 00's UFC.

Holm is 32-2 in boxing, 7-0 in kickboxing and 3-0 in MMA. Legit chick.

**kangus** · March 1st, 2013, 2:02 PM

Originally Posted by OD50

Legit chick.

I"m not prepared to say that until I see her testosterone levels.

**OD50** · March 1st, 2013, 2:07 PM

You know.. They're probably higher than Reem's right now.

**kangus** · March 1st, 2013, 2:15 PM

hey OD50 I have a question for you. Is there any rhyme or reason why so many Swedish athletes, not just in MMA, speak fantastic english? Along with MMA, I particularly notice it in hockey as almost all the swedish players can answer questions in english with ease.

**Vice** · March 1st, 2013, 2:23 PM

It's not just athletes. Pretty much everyone speaks English in Sweden. They're taught how to speak it in school.

I want to say it's because Sweden isn't a huge country, and you'd have a lot of trouble finding anyone outside of Sweden who speaks Swedish. English is more of a "universal" language to a degree, because a ton of people speak it. Every time I've gone to Europe, I've never had any problems getting around regardless of what country I'm in (Spain, Germany, France, Norway..), because either they have a good grasp of english or there's generally someone within 15 feet that does. Confirm or deny, OD?

**OD50** · March 1st, 2013, 3:01 PM

Most European countries (Germany, France etc) dub English speaking movies, tv-series, shows etc while in Sweden everything is subtitled. It's a pretty ingenious way to learn a new language, your hear the foreign words and at the same time read the translation at the bottom of the screen in your own language. It doesn't suck that you learn English while watching He-Man, Transformers or some shit either.

We also start learning English pretty early in school. I believe I was ten but they start even earlier these days, probably at 8 or 9.

This shows which countries dub (lazy bastards that speak shit English as adults) and which ones use subtitles (and speak/write marvelous English as adults

):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fi..._the_world.PNG

**OD50** · March 1st, 2013, 3:04 PM

Originally Posted by kangus

hey OD50 I have a question for you. Is there any rhyme or reason why so many Swedish athletes, not just in MMA, speak fantastic english? Along with MMA, I particularly notice it in hockey as almost all the swedish players can answer questions in english with ease.

You know, Alexander Gustafsson is considered to have very poor English language skills by our standards. He's improving every time I hear him though.

**Seanny One Ball** · March 3rd, 2013, 3:24 PM

Scandinavians as a whole are fantastic at English, generally much better than Glaswegians, Liverpudlians or the Welsh.

If Gustafsson is a poor example then your standards are very high OD!

**OD50** · March 6th, 2013, 9:26 AM

From what I understand Scandinavians and the Dutch has the highest level knowledge of the English language. I've been to Turkey, Germany, Poland, Spain, France and Greece. They all more or less sucked at English, even the young peeps working at McDonalds were almost impossble to communicate with without using sign-language.

Being in the US and the UK was great, there I could freely talk to anyone I met, even mumbling hobos in Dallas

. Good stuff.

Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball

Scandinavians as a whole are fantastic at English, generally much better than Glaswegians, Liverpudlians or the Welsh.

If Gustafsson is a poor example then your standards are very high OD!

Well, Gus' English is pretty much what you'd expect from any average 13-year old here honestly.

**MikeHunt** · March 6th, 2013, 9:38 AM

Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball

Scandinavians as a whole are fantastic at English, generally much better than Glaswegians, Liverpudlians or the Welsh.

If Gustafsson is a poor example then your standards are very high OD!

Are you not from near Dundee? They genuinely don't speak English there.

**Dubya** · June 4th, 2013, 5:06 PM

In addition to signing Rampage Jackson today, Bellator has also inked a deal with Jackson's teammate, Cheick Kongo.

Bellator, meet your new HW champion.

**Kimura Kid** · June 7th, 2013, 5:47 PM

Originally Posted by Mark Hammer

And what's wrong with doing it to get paid? All fighters who fight professionally do so to get paid.

Nothings wrong with Fighting and getting paid for it. But when it's the only motivation for fighting is when it becomes an issue. It's disrespectful to the fans that pay to view the product, the sport that employ's him and himself as a professional athlete. No one wants to watch a fighter half ass it in order to collect a paycheck. And that's exactly what Rampage's career has been in the last 2 years.

Originally Posted by Mark Hammer

0-3 against Jon Jones (after a relatively good performance), wrestlehumped for 3 rounds against Bader while fighting with two shot knees, and a 29-28 decision loss against a monster who's been wrecking everyone within a round. Before that a UD shutout win over Matt Hamill and a 29-28 over Lyoto Machida (the current number 2 ranked). He still beats almost everyone in the UFC 205 division.

You can make all the excuses you want for Rampage, But moments ago you were saying Rampage beats 95% of the active UFC Roster.....now your defending him and his last 3 fights in the UFC. All of which were lackluster performances that resulted in losses. 0-3 in his last 3, Not to good for a guy that could beat 95% of the active roster now is it?

Originally Posted by Mark Hammer

Yeah, I'm a UFC fanboy for following Rampage's career long before and after his UFC stint.

Seriously, who is going to beat Rampage in Bellator? Babalu?

Attila Vegh is a serious threat to any LHW....

Plus Page is moving to HW because he doesnt want to train hard and cut weight. He just wants to collect paychecks.

Smart move going to HW really...less competition and easier for him to become champion. His speed and technique advantages (from a career in a more skilled and "deep" weight class) will allow him to shine.

**Dubya** · June 7th, 2013, 6:05 PM

I think that's a bit harsh.

Rampage has openly said himself that he isn't chasing titles anymore and would like to just focus on putting on exciting fights for the fans, so to act like he's being disrespectful to them is kinda off for me.

I don't think Attila Veigh would beat Rampage or anyone in the top 10 of the UFC. I don't even know that he'll beat Emmanuel Newton. They're first fight was a razor thin split decision that I thought Newton won.

**Mark Hammer** · June 7th, 2013, 6:08 PM

Originally Posted by Kimura Kid

Nothings wrong with Fighting and getting paid for it. But when it's the only motivation for fighting is when it becomes an issue. It's disrespectful to the fans that pay to view the product, the sport that employ's him and himself as a professional athlete. No one wants to watch a fighter half ass it in order to collect a paycheck. And that's exactly what Rampage's career has been in the last 2 years.

It's really not an issue. I am totally fine with Rampage, or any pro fighter, doing it for the money. I do not allow that to deter my enjoyment of them as fighters.

You can make all the excuses you want for Rampage, But moments ago you were saying Rampage beats 95% of the active UFC Roster.....now your defending him and his last 3 fights in the UFC. All of which were lackluster performances that resulted in losses. 0-3 in his last 3, Not to good for a guy that could beat 95% of the active roster now is it?

Note I said 95% and not 100%. I never pretended that his recent losses didn't exist. Though I am personally not going to hold losing to Jon Jones and losing 2 rounds to a decision to round 1 wrecking ball Glover Teixeira against him. And those losses certainly wouldn't lead me to believe that Babalu or any other bush league newcomer must also be able to beat Rampage.

Attila Vegh is a serious threat to any LHW....

Plus Page is moving to HW because he doesnt want to train hard and cut weight. He just wants to collect paychecks.

Smart move going to HW really...less competition and easier for him to become champion. His speed and technique advantages (from a career in a more skilled and "deep" weight class) will allow him to shine.

Jesus Christ. So now he's moving to HW to duck Bellator's 205 division. You could at least try to be a bit more subtle with your fighter hating.

**Olympus** · June 7th, 2013, 6:18 PM

Originally Posted by Mark Hammer

You could at least try to be a bit more subtle with your fighter hating.

**Dubya** · June 7th, 2013, 6:25 PM

Let's see what the man himself has to say about it ..

**Mark Hammer** · June 7th, 2013, 6:31 PM

Originally Posted by Olympus

Everybody here knows which fighters I don't like because I flat out say that I don't like them. You won't ever see me acting objective towards a fighter while riddling my posts with thinly-veiled jabs and pot shots that prove how far from objective I really am.

**Kimura Kid** · June 7th, 2013, 7:29 PM

Originally Posted by Mark Hammer

It's really not an issue. I am totally fine with Rampage, or any pro fighter, doing it for the money. I do not allow that to deter my enjoyment of them as fighters.

Different strokes for different folks.

Originally Posted by Mark Hammer

Note I said 95% and not 100%. I never pretended that his recent losses didn't exist. Though I am personally not going to hold losing to Jon Jones and losing 2 rounds to a decision to round 1 wrecking ball Glover Teixeira against him. And those losses certainly wouldn't lead me to believe that Babalu or any other bush league newcomer must also be able to beat Rampage.

What about his loss to Bader? Convenient you left that loss out of your rebuttal. Considering it's the easiest fight out of the 3 and he lost a unanimous decision. While looking like complete shit in the process!!

Also, Note I never said 100% anything, I was just informing you that your estimate of him beating 95% of the UFC LHW roster seemed a bit high considering he's on a 3 fight losing streak in his last 3 fights........lol

Originally Posted by Mark Hammer

Jesus Christ. So now he's moving to HW to duck Bellator's 205 division. You could at least try to be a bit more subtle with your fighter hating.

If the shoe fits......Also I'm not the only one that believes he's moving to HW because he doesn't want to train hard and cut weight. It's the general consensus within the MMA community.

Originally Posted by Mark Hammer

Everybody here knows which fighters I don't like because I flat out say that I don't like them. You won't ever see me acting objective towards a fighter while riddling my posts with thinly-veiled jabs and pot shots that prove how far from objective I really am.

When did this become about who and who I don't like as a fighter?? I'm not trying to be Objective at all. Rampage is one of my least favorite fighters. I'm not a fan of his lazy work ethic, half ass performances, excuses and knack for always being the victim.

This argument was and still is about this statement you made:

Originally Posted by Mark Hammer

There is not a man on Bellator's roster that would beat Rampage. He may be a shell of his former self but he still beats 95% of the UFC Lightheavyweights.

It's quite simply a load of shit and something I would expect to hear from someone that doesn't have a ton of knowledge regarding the current landscape.

And I know you do...so it surprises me. No biggy, we can agree to disagree brotha. Only time will tell.

**Mark Hammer** · June 7th, 2013, 8:02 PM

Originally Posted by Kimura Kid

What about his loss to Bader? Convenient you left that loss out of your rebuttal. Considering it's the easiest fight out of the 3 and he lost a unanimous decision. While looking like complete shit in the process!!

Rampage fought that fight on no legs, further evidenced by him missing weight for the first and only time in a 12 or so year career. And by a huge margin, no less. A non-injured Rampage would have embarrassed Bader.

Also, Note I never said 100% anything, I was just informing you that your estimate of him beating 95% of the UFC LHW roster seemed a bit high considering he's on a 3 fight losing streak in his last 3 fights........lol

Ok, so 90%. Far from the scrub that you're making him out to be.

If the shoe fits......Also I'm not the only one that believes he's moving to HW because he doesn't want to train hard and cut weight. It's the general consensus within the MMA community.

The internet MMA community is a drooling mass of bitter, hating fools. And I am aware that they don't have much nice to say about Rampage. So what?

When did this become about who and who I don't like as a fighter?? I'm not trying to be Objective at all. Rampage is one of my least favorite fighters. I'm not a fan of his lazy work ethic, half ass performances, excuses and knack for always being the victim.

Shock Face!!!

This argument was and still is about this statement you made:

Whether it's 95% or 90 he's still not the washed-up bum you're foolishly making him out to be, and that actually is what the argument was and still is. Losing to Jon Jones, Ryan Bader, and Glover Teixeira doesn't make you a can and if it did hmm I'd say about 95% of the 205 pounders in the world would also be cans because most couldn't make it through that gauntlet, injured or not.

It's quite simply a load of shit and something I would expect to hear from someone that doesn't have a ton of knowledge regarding the current landscape.

And I know you do...so it surprises me. No biggy, we can agree to disagree brotha. Only time will tell.

Your comment about how Rampage is avoiding Bellator's 205 division in favor of going the "easier" heavyweight route leads me to believe that you don't know very much about this sport at all.

**Kimura Kid** · June 7th, 2013, 8:55 PM

Originally Posted by Mark Hammer

Rampage fought that fight on no legs, further evidenced by him missing weight for the first and only time in a 12 or so year career. And by a huge margin, no less. A non-injured Rampage would have embarrassed Bader.

That's the best you got? Could of's, would of's & should of's?? Making excuses for his missing weight??

Originally Posted by Mark Hammer

Whether it's 95% or 90 he's still not the washed-up bum you're foolishly making him out to be, and that actually is what the argument was and still is. Losing to Jon Jones, Ryan Bader, and Glover Teixeira doesn't make you a can and if it did hmm I'd say about 95% of the 205 pounders in the world would also be cans because most couldn't make it through that gauntlet, injured or not..

His win % in the UFC LHW Division was 58% and your telling me he comes back and increases that amount 32% when the talent pool keeps improving and he continues to do the opposite??? He went 7-5 in the same division you are trying to convince me he'll beat 90% of the current guys in.

Originally Posted by Mark Hammer

The internet MMA community is a drooling mass of bitter, hating fools. And I am aware that they don't have much nice to say about Rampage. So what?

More like the MMA Community is riddled with ignorant, nonsensical, fanboys!!

Originally Posted by Mark Hammer

Your comment about how Rampage is avoiding Bellator's 205 division in favor of going the "easier" heavyweight route leads me to believe that you don't know very much about this sport at all.

**Dubya** · June 7th, 2013, 9:23 PM

Pretty much anyone's light heavyweight division is gonna be more stacked than their heavyweight division.

Bellator's is no exception. I think heavyweight is the 'easier' route for him, but I don't think its so much that he's afraid or ducking the Bellator 205ers .. I think its to do with him getting older and having problems making 205 and feeling good. You should always fight where you feel comfortable.. if he doesn't feel comfortable there anymore.. he should go to heavyweight.. and yeah it will be easier for him because he will be as fast or faster than the heavyweights, but should still have the KO power.. I don't consider it ducking their light heavyweight division though. I consider it making a smart career choice.

**Olympus** · June 7th, 2013, 9:39 PM

Two fanboys arguing with each other does not a sensible conversation make. I'll just leave it at that. You're both waaaaaay too far off each end of the spectrum to expect anything logical to come out of this. Allow me to show why...

Originally Posted by Mark Hammer

A non-injured Rampage would have embarrassed Bader.

Absolutely no way of knowing this for sure, but given his recent history, it's probably not a safe bet to assume he would have embarrassed him.

Originally Posted by Mark Hammer

The internet MMA community is a drooling mass of bitter, hating fools.

Of which you are a part of. And me. And Kimura Kid. And everyone else who posts here.

Originally Posted by Kimura Kid

Making excuses for his missing weight??

Being injured and/or sick (which he was) is a pretty good excuse for missing weight. There's not much he could have done about it if he couldn't train leading up to the fight. Sitting in a sauna won't make much of a difference up to a point.

Originally Posted by Kimura Kid

His win % in the UFC LHW Division was 58% and your telling me he comes back and increases that amount 32% when the talent pool keeps improving and he continues to do the opposite??? He went 5-7 in the same division...

You mean 7-5, not 5-7.

Here's the objective facts about Rampage...

- Ever since he came back from filming the A-Team, he's been a shell of his former self.

- No "Rampage-style" KO's or highlight reel victories.

- 2-4 record in the UFC (which honestly, could have easily been 1-5... round 2 of the Machida fight could have gone either way)

- Rampage is still one of the most recognizable, marketable names in MMA, and will bring a lot of interest and viewers to Bellator.

But... fanboys can't be objective, so I won't bother going on.

**Kimura Kid** · June 7th, 2013, 9:53 PM

Originally Posted by Olympus

Two fanboys arguing with each other does not a sensible conversation make. I'll just leave it at that. You're both waaaaaay too far off each end of the spectrum to expect anything logical to come out of this. Allow me to show why...

Someone needs to research the definition of fanboy

Calling me a fanboy is fucking comical. I haven't defended or dick rode anyone in here, but I'm a fanboy? (rhetorical question)

Originally Posted by Olympus

Being injured and/or sick (which he was) is a pretty good excuse for missing weight. There's not much he could have done about it if he couldn't train leading up to the fight. Sitting in a sauna won't make much of a difference up to a point.

Alright fair enough

Originally Posted by Olympus

You mean 7-5, not 5-7.

Yeah thanks, But we both know I corrected it before you posted this.......just fishing for something huh?? lol

Your sitting here calling me derogatory names and such that would imply i'm off base with my opinions and then quote me on a clerical error and an explanation on why you believe his missed weight was warranted.

Seems minuscule to be calling names and such....but whatever. I gotta crash!

**MikeHunt** · June 7th, 2013, 10:10 PM

Mark Hammer and KK both pull SOB quality arguments here.

**Kimura Kid** · June 7th, 2013, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by MikeHunt

Mark Hammer and KK both pull SOB quality arguments here.

I thought I was tearing it up!!

**Mark Hammer** · June 7th, 2013, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by Kimura Kid

That's the best you got? Could of's, would of's & should of's?? Making excuses for his missing weight??

It's pretty tough doing any cardio or calorie-burning exercises when you can't run.

His win % in the UFC LHW Division was 58% and your telling me he comes back and increases that amount 32% when the talent pool keeps improving and he continues to do the opposite??? He went 7-5 in the same division you are trying to convince me he'll beat 90% of the current guys in.

7-5, fought nothing but top ten competition (and Marvin Eastman). A far cry from the bum you're making him out to be.

More like the MMA Community is riddled with ignorant, nonsensical, fanboys!!

Says the guy who argued that Rampage is scared of the Bellator 205 division after going 7-5 in the UFC.

Originally Posted by Olympus

Two fanboys arguing with each other does not a sensible conversation make. I'll just leave it at that. You're both waaaaaay too far off each end of the spectrum to expect anything logical to come out of this. Allow me to show why...

Two fanboys? More like a blind hater and a logical fan defending a fighter. Rampage isn't what he used to be but he's not a bum either. End of.

Absolutely no way of knowing this for sure, but given his recent history, it's probably not a safe bet to assume he would have embarrassed him.

The fight Rampage was coming off of was Jon Jones, a fight where Rampage shrugged off takedown attempts left and right, and the one time he was underneath a mount he easily escaped back to his feet.

The very next fight (after missing weight for the first time ever and coming in injured) he gets taken down and wrestlefucked at will. So yeah, it's safe to say something was up.

Of which you are a part of. And me. And Kimura Kid. And everyone else who posts here.

Wrong. I'm not a part of this "consensus community" KK spoke of that shits on fighters and accuses them of being bums simply because I don't like their attitude.

2-4 record in the UFC (which honestly, could have easily been 1-5... round 2 of the Machida fight could have gone either way)

No it couldn't have. Rampage very blatantly won the first two rounds of that fight. Machida didn't do a damn thing except flee until the third round when his corner told him he had to finish Page to win the fight. I'm tired of people discrediting Rampage for that fight, he won it fair and square.

And enough of this "fanboys" nonsense. It's somebody who happens to be a Rampage fan defending some outlandish hating.

**Mark Hammer** · June 7th, 2013, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by MikeHunt

Mark Hammer and KK both pull SOB quality arguments here.

SOB may be stubborn and have some ass-backward views but at least he contributes to this forum which is more than I can say about you. Not sure why you feel the need to take jabs when I've never been cross with you and in fact usually have the same problems with the same posters.

**MikeHunt** · June 7th, 2013, 11:38 PM

Watch you don't rip that shirt flexing those muscles. Contribute, contribute, contribute. Nonsense and who cares.

**MikeHunt** · June 7th, 2013, 11:39 PM

Oh btw fart bummer it was a joke mr sensitive.

**Olympus** · June 8th, 2013, 8:01 AM

Originally Posted by Mark Hammer

It's pretty tough doing any cardio or calorie-burning exercises when you can't run.

7-5, fought nothing but top ten competition (and Marvin Eastman). A far cry from the bum you're making him out to be.

Says the guy who argued that Rampage is scared of the Bellator 205 division after going 7-5 in the UFC.

Two fanboys? More like a blind hater and a logical fan defending a fighter. Rampage isn't what he used to be but he's not a bum either. End of.

The fight Rampage was coming off of was Jon Jones, a fight where Rampage shrugged off takedown attempts left and right, and the one time he was underneath a mount he easily escaped back to his feet.

The very next fight (after missing weight for the first time ever and coming in injured) he gets taken down and wrestlefucked at will. So yeah, it's safe to say something was up.

Wrong. I'm not a part of this "consensus community" KK spoke of that shits on fighters and accuses them of being bums simply because I don't like their attitude.

No it couldn't have. Rampage very blatantly won the first two rounds of that fight. Machida didn't do a damn thing except flee until the third round when his corner told him he had to finish Page to win the fight. I'm tired of people discrediting Rampage for that fight, he won it fair and square.

And enough of this "fanboys" nonsense. It's somebody who happens to be a Rampage fan defending some outlandish hating.

I've said my piece and am not getting sucked into this any more. Bottom line, you are incapable of having a "logical" discussion about ANYTHING related to Quinton Jackson.

**Mark Hammer** · June 8th, 2013, 8:35 AM

Bullshit. Everything minus the percentage guesstimation on my end has been 100% factually accurate. Just because I'm a fan of a guy doesn't mean I have to keep my mouth shut when someone is blatantly hating and going out of their way to discredit him.

And nobody "sucked you in", either. You chimed in on your own accord, spewed a bunch of bologna about how we're all illogical fanboys (despite KK being the polar opposite), and now you want to back out because you've said all the nonsense you have to say. Why don't you intelligently address my reply instead of continuing to disregard me as "an irrational fan" (which I am not)?

**Olympus** · June 8th, 2013, 12:58 PM

No, because you refuse to acknowledge anyone's opinion except your own, and you're so butt-blind to anything Quinton-related that its pointless to even try and counter. The only thing that you said that was "100 % factually accurate" was that he went 7-5 against top 5 competition his entire UFC career.

The fact that you claim you're not a Quinton Jackson fanboy proves how delusional you really are.

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