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    Dana White is saying that after Colby gets his rematch with Usman (yay....) that the winner of Leon v. Nate gets the title shot after that. We all know that more than likely that will all change but I guess it's a good incentive for Leon and Nate to not only look impressive but win.

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    Hopefully Nate doesn't get fucked over by his scar tissue. This card is pretty fucking good though, I'm excited.

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    Been a long time since we saw Nate Diaz v. a strong grappler at 170. The last time was Rory, who mauled him with ease. I remember watching that fight thinking Nate was going to get suplex KO'd.

    Nate's a strong candidate for a 160-165lbs division. 170 has some beasts and he was not a top guy at 170.

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    Lot of decisions tonight.

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    Izzy did what he had to I guess to retain and not be on a losing streak. Moreno, what a story that kid has to tell his grandchildren one day. I'm hearing Leon would fight Jorge next or the winner of Usman-Colby. Nate had a chance to finish this dude instead he started doing some Diaz bullshit and just couldn't get it done in the last moments.

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    Nate not going for the finish pissed me off. Upon thinking about it tho I wouldn't want him to get the title shot after the win since he would have almost no chance of winning that and he would get pretty easily destroyed imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Droid View Post
    Nate not going for the finish pissed me off. Upon thinking about it tho I wouldn't want him to get the title shot after the win since he would have almost no chance of winning that and he would get pretty easily destroyed imo.
    The fact Dana said "The winner of this gets the winner of Usman/Colby 2" made me immediately think neither of them were going to get the next title shot. Nate @ 170 just hasn't worked out at all for him. I believe he has a losing record and the only people he's beat at 170 were undersized guys like himself (McGregor, Markham, Marcus Davis)

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    True but Nate is a pretty big name and would sell a lot so maybe it would have happened had he won. People just love to see him fight no matter who or what he is fighting for for the most part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Droid View Post
    True but Nate is a pretty big name and would sell a lot so maybe it would have happened had he won. People just love to see him fight no matter who or what he is fighting for for the most part.
    The history of Dana saying one thing and doing something totally different plus the flakiness and unreliable nature of Nate Diaz to stick around has me questioning the validity of that statement. It's more about Dana than anything.

    I've always questioned if Nate was a pretty big name or if he was just a pretty big name in the bubble. Yes, he had 2 crazy high ppv numbers----against the biggest draw in MMA history. We'll never know.

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    TUF is so one sided right now. Wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    TUF is so one sided right now. Wow.
    I've had no interest in this show in years. I don't even remember the last one I watched. It comes down to oversaturation of MMA. Don't get me wrong, I love it. But I don't love it the same way a boxing fan would watch Tuesday Night Fights on USA religiously lol. That's how I view MMA right now, especially the UFC product. Fight cards every other day, now TUF is back.

    The last season I actually watched was Joanna-Claudia and it was so cringe with Joanna that I couldn't handle anything else after that. Plus it was hard to keep up. You had the main version and then you had the TUF's that took place on Fuel or whatever the fuck lol.

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    So, Black Beast vs. Cyril Gane for the interim HW title at UFC 265. That was, surprising..

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    Quote Originally Posted by OD50 View Post
    So, Black Beast vs. Cyril Gane for the interim HW title at UFC 265. That was, surprising..
    I haven't read too much into this situation. A few people are saying it's because of money, that Ngannou is wanting north of $10 million.

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    1 more week and we get Poirier/McGregor 3! I think Poirier's taking this one. McGregor is good about learning from past mistakes and I'm not sure he really made any real mistakes, just that Dustin was the better man the 2nd time around.

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    I've got Dustin, but it's a 50/50 fight again. I think Poirier's the better fighter and has more proven power at 155 too. You just can't get blast coke for 4-5 years and expect to be the fighter you were. But he's still got good shot selection, manages range well and is accurate and powerful so Conor's well in the fight. For me, Dustin stops him again. The confidence he has now is remarkable. It's a day at the office for him. He's had the highest of highs and lowest of lows and stays consistent because of it. This is a legendary fight though. There's not many times you see 2 fighters in their relative physical prime who are shoe in Hall of Famers already fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    I haven't read too much into this situation. A few people are saying it's because of money, that Ngannou is wanting north of $10 million.
    It seems pretty weird on the surface. Apparently Ngannou was offered the fight in September and accepted, then they still made the Gane/Lewis interim fight for August. Most likely a power play by Dana after Francis has been twittering about fighter pay and the Paul brothers boxing purses. Combined with him and Jones asking for those monster paydays to fight each other.

    /Oh, and Alexander Gustafsson seems slated to fight Paul Craig in September, possibly in London. Could Gus make somewhat of a comeback or is he completely washed at 34?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OD50 View Post
    It seems pretty weird on the surface. Apparently Ngannou was offered the fight in September and accepted, then they still made the Gane/Lewis interim fight for August. Most likely a power play by Dana after Francis has been twittering about fighter pay and the Paul brothers boxing purses. Combined with him and Jones asking for those monster paydays to fight each other.

    /Oh, and Alexander Gustafsson seems slated to fight Paul Craig in September, possibly in London. Could Gus make somewhat of a comeback or is he completely washed at 34?
    I know Lewis is beloved but I don't see him as the guy carrying the torch for the HW division. Gane is too new. Whatever the real issues are I think are probably warranted in the grand scheme of things.

    I don't know about Gus. The injuries that lead to inconsistency I think has been his downfall. He's looked phenomenal in losses to Jones and Cormier but he's only fought 9 times in 8 years. Barely fought more than once a year since 2012.

    The thing is....There's a story to be told if he can string a few wins together. And to be honest, LHW is thin so it won't take much to build up the fact he's beaten Jan by decision and knocked out Glover in less than 2 minutes. Craig is ranked #12 but he's on a win streak and he's no joke. If Gus can't get through Craig then he's basically going down as the guy who ALMOST beat Jones and Cormier.

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    UFC dead here now?

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    Yo..

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    Draft kings is doing great boosts on betting for the main event.

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    Go on Poirier!! Also, go on Tuivasa!!!
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    That Kris dude has an insane chin. Herb really should have just let it go another 30 seconds.

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    Wow, what a crazy ending to that fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    That Kris dude has an insane chin. Herb really should have just let it go another 30 seconds.
    Thank you for noticing

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    Had to have been a compromised bone from a checked kick-type situation earlier in the fight that was fully broken when planted after the exchange.

    Baaaananas.

    Also Dustin was putting it on Conor so, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdestiny View Post
    Thank you for noticing
    I knew as soon as I typed the word Kris you would end up in here.

    Connor was such a sore loser tonight. I know the leg break sucks but shit happens. It's funny because he lost as honorable Connor and now he lost as douchebag Connor so what's next.

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    Bulk up and go to WWE?

    I guess there could be another rematch perhaps down the line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    Connor was such a sore loser tonight. I know the leg break sucks but shit happens. It's funny because he lost as honorable Connor and now he lost as douchebag Connor so what's next.
    Jake Paul..

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    4th fight will happen no doubt. When is another subject. So Dustin gets the title shot I assume because who else is there really? Charles v. Dustin in December?

    Conor had me rollin, Joe sitting there with him. Dustin's wife flipping off Conor, fucking hilarious.

    In the end, everyone's still talking about McGregor. That's just how it goes in sports. Dustin is a beast, he was looking good and I think he wins the title. McGregor...heal up dude and we'll see you whenever the fook.

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    Poirier vs Do Bronx is a terrific matchup.

    And if Dustin wins that fight I'm not entirely sure a path to a fourth fight necessarily materializes. Conor's nowhere near a LW title shot atm, and it's nowhere near a likelihood that he beats whoever is in his way to get there.

    Gaethje, Chandler, Do Bronx (in this scenario). Any combination of wins against a couple of those guys, just to get him to .500 in the division, is a real mountain for him to climb at this point in his career.

    I know, money talks though. Would just be an absolute shame, and an equal sham, for him to get a straight away title shot just to cash in on a 4th fight.

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    I would hope if Dustin wins the title he has the balls to say Connor shouldn't get a title shot before he actually beats someone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percussion View Post
    Poirier vs Do Bronx is a terrific matchup.

    And if Dustin wins that fight I'm not entirely sure a path to a fourth fight necessarily materializes. Conor's nowhere near a LW title shot atm, and it's nowhere near a likelihood that he beats whoever is in his way to get there.

    Gaethje, Chandler, Do Bronx (in this scenario). Any combination of wins against a couple of those guys, just to get him to .500 in the division, is a real mountain for him to climb at this point in his career.

    I know, money talks though. Would just be an absolute shame, and an equal sham, for him to get a straight away title shot just to cash in on a 4th fight.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    I would hope if Dustin wins the title he has the balls to say Connor shouldn't get a title shot before he actually beats someone.
    I mean, Dustin turned down a title shot to fight Conor. NOW he probably would because NOW there is a lot more bullshit.

    A 4th fight would be bigger than any fight in the division. I can't even think of anyone active that I would consider in the same universe as McGregor when it comes to drawing power, especially at 155. But the reality is despite his drawing power, gifting him a title fight based on going 1-3 in his last 4....That's tough to make unless there's no realistic options.

    If Poirier loses to Charles then a 4th fight is even easier to make but who knows if we'll get it anytime soon. I would like to think maybe in late 2022 we'd see that 4th fight but shit....remember Cain v. JDS? 3 fights in like 2 years against each other.

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    On one hand it's hilarious, on the other it's like....is this where are in sports? Is Logan Paul going to get a spot on the Timberwolves next season to help attendance?

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    Master P played in preseason games for the Hornets and the Raptors..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percussion View Post
    Master P played in preseason games for the Hornets and the Raptors..
    And?

    Did it spawn a shit ton of other celebrities playing in the preseason of the NBA, or the NBA in general? Nope. Thank God. I guess some people were really hoping Urkel transitioned from MTV Rock and Jock MVP to the next Michael Jordan....

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    And nothing. Relax. Just a simple example relative to the subject. Merely for chill convo sake.

    No one's genuinely concerned that celebrities are going to infiltrate any of the major team pro sports leagues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percussion View Post
    And nothing. Relax. Just a simple example relative to the subject. Merely for chill convo sake.

    No one's genuinely concerned that celebrities are going to infiltrate any of the major team pro sports leagues.
    My Timberwolves comment wasn't a serious take so that's why it was odd you threw out the Master P comment. Didn't he play like 20 years ago? It just didn't seem relatable but I also didn't think anyone would truly take that comment serious enough to build off it with a serious take.

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    Conor is such an odd angry little man. Great to see Poirier beat him again. Always fascinating to get an insight into a lunatic's mind.

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    Nick Diaz/Robbie Lawler 2 is official for UFC 266 (sep 25). Must be one of the longest gaps ever for a rematch, 17'ish years right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OD50 View Post
    Nick Diaz/Robbie Lawler 2 is official for UFC 266 (sep 25). Must be one of the longest gaps ever for a rematch, 17'ish years right?
    My son is 20 and is extremely excited to see this fight. He's a big Diaz Bros fan, he literally tatted "209" above his left knee lol. It's crazy how a whole generation below is excited to see this fight. I couldn't believe how long ago that fight was. I actually just watched Diaz v. Drew Fickett last night, that was 2 fights after and Diaz was only 21. Crazy!

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    Shamrock and Royce surely won't ever be topped for space between fights at over 22 years. This is great though. Proper matchmaking for a star. Why chuck him in against a ranked guy with no name? Like there were Chimaev rumours which would have been awful.

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    I'm looking at Lawler's record and he really had had a solid career. I get he's on a 4-fight losing streak but considering the level of talent he's still fighting I can understand it.

    Nick's inactivity in the cage all these years has to play a factor. It's a shame this man was on one hand a complete idiot but also deprived of his peak athletic years in this sport.

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    Interesting way of looking at how long ago their first fight was, they made a combined $14k - including Diaz's win bonus - for that one.

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    No wonder Chuck Liddell was so hot toward Jon Jones when he turned down the short notice Chael fight. Back then Chuck probably made $14k when he won the title from Couture. Obviously that's not true (I fucking hope) but yeah it makes you appreciate how far the sport has come....well....kind of lol.

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    Dana White is a selfish piece of shit, was making money by the truckloads while strongarming those who worked for him…kind of like the shithead ex-President who got invited to sit ringside this past Saturday.

    Birds of a shit feather, something something…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyson View Post
    Dana White is a selfish piece of shit, was making money by the truckloads while strongarming those who worked for him…kind of like the shithead ex-President who got invited to sit ringside this past Saturday.

    Birds of a shit feather, something something…
    Lol rent free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyson View Post
    Dana White is a selfish piece of shit, was making money by the truckloads while strongarming those who worked for him…kind of like the shithead ex-President who got invited to sit ringside this past Saturday.

    Birds of a shit feather, something something…
    I don't know what triggered this but I agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    Lol rent free.
    Which reminds me, rent is due I don't live in people's heads for free these days so the bill is coming

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    Apparently Poirier's manager is lobbying for him to take a break after the McGregor fight rather than jump straight away into a title fight with Do Bronx. He's recommending Gaethje fill the slot instead.

    Gotta wonder if this isn't just a way to buy time and keep the belt off Dustin so they can run it back a fourth time with Conor once he's healed and cash in one more time before finally going title hunting.

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    I'm curious what kind of claim Gaethje would even have for a title shot. It should be Poirier v. Da Bronx but I guess the argument for Justin would simply be he's 4-1 in his last 5 with his 1 loss being to Khabib.

    Too bad Alvarez isn't in the UFC I'd like to see him and Gaethje run that fight back in the near future.

    I'd like to make an argument for Dariush but that dude hasn't defeated anyone in the top 10 but Tony in a 3 round decision.....Plus he lost to that little douchebag Alex Hernandez.

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    There really is no legit argument for Gaethje other than Abdelaziz, Poirier's manager, suggesting that his fighter pass on the title opportunity for a minute. Justin's the next highest ranked LW and an opponent that Dustin's already beaten who also has their respect.

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    Miesha Tate looked pretty good in her comeback. Might as well do the Holm rematch.

    Stephens should be released. Subbed by kimura in a minute what fucking year is this?

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    Conor's gone for a year, so Poirier absolutely will challenge for the title next. He's in that stage of his career where he wants to take time off, and he'll get a couple of months before going into camp for Oliviera. Gaethje vs. Chandler, Dariush vs. RDA, Islam vs. El Cucuy (Khabib factor), Hooker vs. Gillespie. Easy.

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    Man that Sandhagen/Dillashaw was razor close. Tough first fight back for TJ, could've gone either way imo. That's one of those fights where the judges need the stats to make a real decision. The more the sport grows the more we'll start seeing that in judging imo.

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    Tatiana Suarez out of her fight at UFC 266 against Dragon Ball Z's Bulma. Knee surgery.

    I'll tell you what. If she can pick up where she left off, she's going to be champion.

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    Nunes is out of 265 with covid.

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    It's a big loss but the card is still pretty solid. I was really excited to see Nunes v. Pena. Honestly was giving Pena a good shot as a lot of the unbeatables have been getting beaten more and more. Plus we still have Aldo v. Munhoz.

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    How is the UK real?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post


    How is the UK real?
    Let the public decide his fate like we do in the US lol. Seriously though, this is why I find it odd that some of our friends in the UK that post here go so over the top with their approach but I get it. It's like when we had a sub in school. You acted a fool until the real teacher heard what you did then you were fucked.

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    Cops sent to your house over memes on Twitter. #clownworld

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    They could replace all the people that should be out of prison for weed with all the people they want to put in prison for hurting people's feelings on a platform they can just as easily go off of if it's so toxic for their soft skin.

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    Looks like Gaethje v Chandler is all but signed - with that being a mere formality - and set for 268 under Usman v Covington II.

    The two of them have been going round and round for a cool ass minute so it'll be nice to finally pair em off and settle their rankings a bit. Also an interesting style match up in two boxer/wrestlers who'll likely end up brawling out. Good shit.

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    That's a banging start to a card. 2 absolutely rip roaring fights. Timelines might start to add up for 155 and 170 - Leon vs. Burns or Masvidal around December with Charles and Dustin set around then too - then if Gaethje and Leon win they're up next. Then you have a combination of RDA, Islam and Beneil with that winner taking the shot of Chandler wins, and the Chiesa/Luque winner fighting the other of Burns or Masvidal and earning a shot if Leon loses and they win. 155 is just grossly stacked with fun fights at the top. Ferguson vs. Hooker makes too much sense for a fun fight.

    135 seems like it's Yan vs. Sterling 2 with the timeline suiting TJ getting a shot on his return from surgery. Then I guess you do Sandhagen and Font around that time, unless you want to build both and you do Font vs. Aldo/Munhoz winner (either a chance to avenge a loss or beat a legend who would be on a win streak) and rebuild Sandhagen against the loser.

    Guessing Holloway vs. Jung or Rodriguez for next shot at 145, with the other fighting Arnold Allen. Middleweight seems to be Whittaker challenging Adesanya but later in the year or early next given the fights on slate already, so gives time for the Till/Brunson winner to fight either Cannonier or Costa for a shot. Light heavyweight should just be Jiri vs. Rakic in a five rounder for a shot - may seem silly blowing through a contender but Rakic couldn't draw flies to shit at the minute so no point parking him, but if he beats Jiri you can't deny him.

    Heavyweight is fucked - after this weekend you'll have 3 guys with valid claims at the shot - the interim champion, the divisional GOAT and the sport GOAT. For me you run a tournament - preferably Miocic vs. Jones as well as the unification, though I wouldn't be adverse to Ngannou vs. Miocic 3 and Beast vs. Jones if that's how the chips fall. They can lowball Jon on an "easier" matchup and build to the $20million payday when he's got an interim title and therefore the PPV points. Against Gane, not so much.

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    The fact we're even having an interim HW title fight is beyond me.

    It's also a shame that they couldn't find anyone on a quality streak to challenge Usman.

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