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    Will the film have spoilers from the game?

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    So that's Friday night then yes?

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    Went to Game, HMV, Grainger Games, Blockbusters etc looking for this game today. They've all sold out and said that they've had enough people asking about the game to be sold out again 5 times over. It seems that most of the shops over here we're expecting this to be such a hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gavrilo Princip View Post
    I managed to get the game in the end, whipped off to the 24 hour ASDA who for whatever reason hadnt actually even put the game out. In fact, me asking for it was the first that they'd known about the game and I got the impression that some work experience guy was going to get in quite a bit of trouble about it. Still, that was the least of my problems cos I thought that my girlfriend had picked the game up and put it in her back, but you wouldnt have wanted to be in my shoes when I pulled up to my house about 7 or 8 and I yelled to the Cabbie 'Yo home, smell you later'.
    I thought you got it already?

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    Just got to Mexico; that was fucking awesome. This is one incredible game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miotch View Post
    So that's Friday night then yes?
    Just checked my guide, Saturday night. Can't wait to watch it, I'd actually like to see a feature film based on this, having finished story mode. Very cinematic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    I thought you got it already?

    Yeah, that was just an elaborate gag mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad Collin View Post
    Just got to Mexico; that was fucking awesome. This is one incredible game.
    Yeah, so have I. Having played this for a while now, I'm a bit less enthusiastic about it. Racing across barren wasteland from one identikit place to the next, doing boring and uninspired missions. I know it's the West, and it's supposed to be barren, but at least change the missions up. Either the option of going to X and killing everyone, or running away from X and killing people on a horse.

    Even the side stuff gets old pretty quick. OOh maybe I'll go and pick some flowers, or shoot a crow for the hundreth time.

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    Has anyone bought a new horse yet?

    Also, if you want the automatic pistol...

    1st Act spoiler


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    Is there a demo of this? I've checked the Playstation Store (the UK one anyway) but can't seem to find one, but I would have thought there would be for such a big release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gavrilo Princip View Post
    Yeah, that was just an elaborate gag mate.
    It was quite elaborate.

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    Got it now...no gag.

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    Hmm..this one is much less elaborate.

    I wish I had a more stable internet connection where my PS3 is right now. I'd love to ride in a posse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hlebsfall View Post
    Yeah, so have I. Having played this for a while now, I'm a bit less enthusiastic about it. Racing across barren wasteland from one identikit place to the next, doing boring and uninspired missions. I know it's the West, and it's supposed to be barren, but at least change the missions up. Either the option of going to X and killing everyone, or running away from X and killing people on a horse.

    Even the side stuff gets old pretty quick. OOh maybe I'll go and pick some flowers, or shoot a crow for the hundreth time.
    You don't have to do all the walking in between waypoints.

    Just set the waypoint on your map, create a campfire and auto your way to your next mission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hlebsfall View Post
    Yeah, so have I. Having played this for a while now, I'm a bit less enthusiastic about it. Racing across barren wasteland from one identikit place to the next, doing boring and uninspired missions. I know it's the West, and it's supposed to be barren, but at least change the missions up. Either the option of going to X and killing everyone, or running away from X and killing people on a horse.

    Even the side stuff gets old pretty quick. OOh maybe I'll go and pick some flowers, or shoot a crow for the hundreth time.
    I agree with this a bit. It is literally GTA in the Wild West and for me the GTA format was very tired. Making it bigger just means it takes longer to get to the action.

    It's packaged up really well, really well presented and atmospheric but the gameplay is disappointing.

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    Dying resets your challenges...

    Bugger.

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    Even the completed stuff or just the one's you are currently working on when you die?

    I'm finally going to be able to give this a proper go tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alf View Post
    Dying resets your challenges...

    Bugger.
    I haven't noticed that. Although I mainly died early on before I started the challenges.

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    Just the ones you are working on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miotch View Post
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYdCvN-ukRY"]YouTube- Red Dead Redemption - Bird People Glitch[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVVXyKP1FVk"]YouTube- The Infamous Cougar-Man![/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2r8S4uke34"]YouTube- Red Dead Redemption Rocket Horse Glitch[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFYiSazZWm4"]YouTube- Miraculous Flying Deer![/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFoMvLmfFEY"]YouTube- The Outstanding Gunslinger-Dog![/ame]

    Last edited by Bert; May 28th, 2010 at 1:43 AM.

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    Wolves killed my horse last night. I was super pissed. Then I shot a dude to take his horse, while no one was around, and the cops still showed up. How can they know I shot someone in the desert if no one is around?

    I died fighting them and my horse magically reappeared. Advantage - Matty C

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    I was in the hills outside McFarlane Ranch and lost two horses. Those Boars and Cougars like to attack at the same time.

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    Cougars are dangerous when on the prowl, particularly to young men.

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    Cougars are cunts. Although I do like the way they'll only usually attack you from behind. They are quick as fuck too.

    I'm currently on a challenge where...

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    My next challenge is to

    (spoiler is from earlier in the game than Alf's)


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    Sorry lads but I just don't see the appeal of this game at all. Bloody boring.

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    I am opening my copy up right now. I heard there is co-op or whatever online play. My PSN tag is: MROCA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matty C View Post
    My next challenge is to

    (spoiler is from earlier in the game than Alf's)

    That one was pretty easy actually.

    Just wait till you are attacked by a pack, jump off your horse and start swinging.

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    How do you lasso people?

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    exactly like you lasso everything else.

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    Okay, I don't have the lasso. Can I get an answer from someone who knows how to get the lasso?

    I saw video of john's lasso in action, so I know its available in the game.
    Last edited by Sphere; May 30th, 2010 at 9:46 PM.

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    You get it from a mission relatively early on.

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    I have been roaming the world, so I guess that's why I don't have the lasso. I would guess maybe Bonnie could be of help to get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sphere View Post
    Can I get an answer from someone who knows how to get the lasso?
    oh damn i was gonna answer but then saw you wanted the answer from people who know how to get the lasso

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    I stumbled upon a challenge in which I need to pick flowers for some old man. The flowers are located in like three out of four corners of the map... bugger.

    I finally got the elegant suit though and killed some dude in a duel after trying to cheat him. I feel like I am terrible at the duels but I still won. Until last night, I didn't realize that side of the map existed (Theives Landing).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matty C View Post
    I stumbled upon a challenge in which I need to pick flowers for some old man. The flowers are located in like three out of four corners of the map... bugger.
    I got the same challenge and completed it on Sunday. You need to pick three of each flower, which are pretty frustrating to locate. When you return the flowers, leave immediately. There are a pack of wolves near the house.

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    I shot a bunch of wolves hanging around there when I got the challenge but I assume they will reappear. Thanks.

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    The challenge where you pick flowers for the old man is....just about one of the most interesting, for lack of a better word and to prevent spoiling, missions I've ever come across in a video game

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    I love the bounty hunter missions, picking off the gang from a distance before moving in to lasso the perp. Good times.

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    The old man mission was definitely an eyebrow-raiser.

    The worst place for wildlife is up in the northern valley near the "American Appetites" mission. There are way too many cougars up there, and those will fuck you and your horse up in the blink of an eye.

    I haven't found any bears yet, but I know they're there.

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    Before I got this game, I had read something about being able to rob banks. Now I've beaten it and never came across anything like that. Are there even banks in the game?

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    I've yet to run across a cougar and I'm almost at the part where I head off to Mexico...how is this?

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    All wildlife seems pretty random. Head to the north of Armadillo where all the cacti are, and you'll probably run into one up there.

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    When you open up the North East part of the map, it is basically Bear Town. I have killed about 6 of them in a couple of hours, and that wasn't even through looking for them.

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    There are tons of Cougars around Fort Mercer and towards the north of Gaptooth.

    Also, I've seen banks around in Armadillo and one of the mexican towns. I don't know if/how you rob them though. It would make sense that you could do that.

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    What's the most money you've had at a time? I have about $1300 right now, and that's mostly from selling all the wildlife I kill. I've bought a couple of things, but nothing in the stores looks that intriguing. I almost bought the sawed off shotgun, but then I received one for completing a mission. Meh... maybe I'll just blow it all on booze and poker.

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    I should be able to buy whores in this game.

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    Beat the game last night... not happy with the ending.


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    Robbing banks...

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plrglulry6A"]YouTube- Red Dead Remption: How to Rob the Armadillo Bank[/ame]

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    Thanks Alf

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanillaJello View Post
    Beat the game last night... not happy with the ending.



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    Getting money is pretty easy if you are good at the knife game. You can just keep making a hundred bucks, takes about 20 seconds.

    Anyone know a way to turn *off* the lock-on feature in bullet time? I kinda prefer it without.

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    There's not a whole lot to spend your money on though.

    I've finished all the challenges (hunter, survivalist, sharpshooter, treasue).

    What do you mean 'lock on'? Is the the thing where it automitically paints an x on the target as you move your aim over them? If so, you need to do the Landon mission in mexico, I can't remember the name of the town. It's the one in the middle. And it's called dead-eye you div.

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    Once you get to Mexico, look for the LR and complete his first mission. The dead-eye will then change, as Alf said. If you are not yet in Mexico, it can not be turned off. It's meant to show that you're not quite an elite gunslinger yet.

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    Are there any reasons to rent this game rather than to buy. I really want to play it now because I've heard so many good things and I enjoy rockstar games.

    I'd have to wait til August if I was going to buy it though.

    Is it worth it to wait it out to buy or worth a rent?

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    It's a rental. Not worth buying.

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    A couple of rents though. It's a big ole game. But I doubt it's one that once you've finished you'll go back to much. Unless they release an awesome add-on pack... which they are likely to do.

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    I haven't played it in ages, I just got bored of the missions after storming the fort. It was this big mission you spent a while building up to and I just thought it was crap. Hopefully I'll go back to it soon just to finish off the storyline but this game has been a big disappointment to me.

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    Well played Alf. Maybe if your fencing was as good as your online quips you wouldn't be noted as the worst fencer in Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Capitano Gatisto View Post
    I haven't played it in ages, I just got bored of the missions after storming the fort. It was this big mission you spent a while building up to and I just thought it was crap. Hopefully I'll go back to it soon just to finish off the storyline but this game has been a big disappointment to me.
    The game is ultra-boring before you go to mexico. After you go to mexico, it gets a little more fun and then towards the end the missions actually get pretty exciting.

    By the way, what the holy fuck is the point of the "I know you" mini stranger mission?

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    I've heard it gets more boring when you go to Mexico. More missions which involve riding around for fucking ages before you do anything.

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    Its a touch repetitive. I still like it, and find myself playing for four or five hours accidentally, but I cn see why others would be pissed off.

    They were foolish not to have a Fallout-esque system where you can just pick somewhere you want to go, and providing you have discovered that area you can warp to it - the map is too big not to include it.

    Im in Mexico, but tend to spend a lot of time just faffing around, so not sure where I am storyline-wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMR86 View Post
    They were foolish not to have a Fallout-esque system where you can just pick somewhere you want to go, and providing you have discovered that area you can warp to it - the map is too big not to include it.
    There is the whole setting up camp deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Capitano Gatisto View Post
    I've heard it gets more boring when you go to Mexico. More missions which involve riding around for fucking ages before you do anything.
    Yeah, pretty much, the missions are equally as dull as well. They tear the arse out of that gatling gun idea, it crops up in about 6 more missions after the first time you use it.

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    The thing that pissed me off in this game, was hunting. Animals like bears, cougars, wolves, it wasnt hunting, it was kill or be killed. As for the rest of it, Single player campaign isnt complete. GTA IV and they're single player add on packs shoulda been the big clue. So sucks to those who paid the 60 bucks expecting huge single player. Online is where the game shined for me. The single player and the massive online stuff completely makes the game buy worthy.

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    I have been switching to private mode when doing my free roam. There is too many dumb asses killing other players for fun or to maybe get the Red Dead Rockstar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samtheman View Post
    By the way, what the holy fuck is the point of the "I know you" mini stranger mission?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sphere View Post
    I have been switching to private mode when doing my free roam. There is too many dumb asses killing other players for fun or to maybe get the Red Dead Rockstar
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    killing people for fun? that's the point.

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    glad i didn't get this now. looks like my predictions 2 or 3 months ago about it being an done to death genre were true. rockstar are shit now. GTA5 needs an entire reboot for the series. new game engine and style of gameplay etc. i'm playing GTA4 now after it sitting on a shelf for 2 years, and i'm up to manhattan, 10 hours in. already very bored of the game. the Combat is woeful. and you die over and over because of the awful controls. my mate who has just got into games at the age of 26 thinks it is the best thing since sliced bread, but that's because he hasn't played every other Rockstar game. it's all new to him.

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    This thread is chock full of bullshit.

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    I do have to say though... I am now in West Elizabeth and the missions are starting to get on my tits.

    Ride to point A in a group, listen to the same bollocks you heard at the start of the game about how John is just trying to find xxxx, how he wants to get back to his family etc etc etc'.

    Stop. Do some shooting.

    Ride back.

    ...it's the riding in a group thing that is killing me.

    Also, in Mexico... how many missions were to do with that fucking train but from different angles? One. Protect the train. Two. Attack the train. Three. Protect the train while on the train. Four. Attack the train in a station and uncouple a car. Boring.

    None of the missions stand out for me. None have the wow-factor of the bank heist or in VC when you have to rescue Lance. Those were epic missions. Everything here is a bit flat.

    It annoys me that they've got this rich tapstry of the wild west and they couldn't think of anything cool to do with it. Even the old cliche wild west things that everyone expects weren't included. Not once have I walked into a bar through the bat wing doors and everyone has gone quiet and looked at you.

    There hasn't really been a tense stand-off.

    Why do you only do the herding once in the entire game? Bit odd.

    There is NOTHING to spend your money on.

    I am enjoying it. I do like it. But it feels like a missed opportunity.

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    Everyone should play Bully instead. Probably Rockstar's best game.

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    This game is the ultimate in style over substance. Everything was poured into making it authentic and into making sure there were "details" but these open world games have moved on beyond the Rockstar model. The world is enormous but the game is depressingly linear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jesus sucks View Post
    glad i didn't get this now. looks like my predictions 2 or 3 months ago about it being an done to death genre were true. rockstar are shit now. GTA5 needs an entire reboot for the series. new game engine and style of gameplay etc. i'm playing GTA4 now after it sitting on a shelf for 2 years, and i'm up to manhattan, 10 hours in. already very bored of the game. the Combat is woeful. and you die over and over because of the awful controls. my mate who has just got into games at the age of 26 thinks it is the best thing since sliced bread, but that's because he hasn't played every other Rockstar game. it's all new to him.

    People should go back to GTA III.

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    Bully/Canis Canem Edit. Telling you.

    I think it's decent that they put in fast travel, but it's kinda hidden - as people haven't found it. Then you need to find a spot "away from roads", and then you pick the place from a list of options that you have to be check on the map and remember before you open the campsite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alf View Post
    There is NOTHING to spend your money on.
    I agree. I am better off just doing missions and picking up weapons off the dead, and not spending cash at the weapon shops.

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    I agree with Alf in that the game feels like a missed opportunity. I enjoyed it for awhile, but everything get repetitive fairly quickly, and the main storyline doesn't manage to hold my interest. Instead, I just play the game wishing for an RPG set in the Wild West, especially if it was done by the guys who did Oblivion and Fallout or the ones who did Mass Effect.

    I love the idea of this game, but for all that there is to do in the world, it just doesn't feel very deep.

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    This game is not flawless, but it is TONS better than GTA4.

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    I am enjoying it a lot more than GTA4 which I thought was just souless.

    I agree that a western RPG would be the sex.

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    GTA4 had loads of flaws, the main one being that every mission was the bloody same, but soulless is the last thing I'd call it Alf! That's the first game that genuinely felt like a living world.

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    Did it? Brighton must be shit then.

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    I can't have that Alf. Red mist coming down, you're dead to me. No strike that, you're fucking DEAD. WAIT THERE

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rogerer View Post
    Bully/Canis Canem Edit. Telling you.

    I think it's decent that they put in fast travel, but it's kinda hidden - as people haven't found it. Then you need to find a spot "away from roads", and then you pick the place from a list of options that you have to be check on the map and remember before you open the campsite.
    You can place your mark after setting up the campsite.

    I haven't logged as many hours on this thing as many of you have but I think the criticisms are valid. It is a bit repetitive, the storyline isn't the greatest, etc.

    Still, to this point I quite enjoy it personally. The bounty hunter missions are some of my favourite to this point and I also enjoy horseshoes far too much.

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    I bloody loved the hunting and herb collecting...

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    Every mission is just shooting and feels the same. They made this game to be like GTA IV and didn't apply much thought to it. The fact it has the same kind of clock as GTA, and you have to be at missions in a certain window just leads to you having to keep saving and cancelling to move the clock around 6 hours. Ugh.

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    Go to meet Irish for the "We will meet together in paradise" mission. It starts to load... and I appear at my bed in McFarlane's ranch. Brilliant.

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    Doing that very mission, take cover, I get catapulted 50 feet into the air and fail the mission for "abandoning" irish. What is going on.

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    This game is awesome. Suck a thousand dicks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rogerer View Post
    Doing that very mission, take cover, I get catapulted 50 feet into the air and fail the mission for "abandoning" irish. What is going on.
    Same thing happened to me on that mission. Only once, though.

    I'm actually the opposite of most in regards to this game. At first I wasn't impressed and felt pretty "meh" about the whole thing. I didn't start caring until I went back up North for the final stretch of the game. Frankly, I've been even more into it after beating the main story.


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    Wow, what a fucking game. Up until I came back into the states, I thought it was boring. But after seeing that ending, I can't help but say i've never been as emotionally invested in video game characters as much I was here.

    Earlier, I was posting about how the "I know you" side mission is worthless and makes no sense, but I think I figured it out now.


    great game though. If you haven't been playing it, you should start it up again.

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    I'm in Mexico at the moment but like others found it a bit boring and haven't play for about a week and half. After reading the above comments I'm gonna give it another go.

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    Messing with the audio settings SAVES YOUR GAME...
    I was about to die at the hands of a second mountain lion, I turned the audio up a bit, and it saved and I kept all the money I collected and shit I was doing before I died...

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    Best sidequest ever...

    Flowers For The Lady...

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    I LOL'D at that.

    Taking all that time picking up all them flowers to see that was worth it.

    Completed the storyline the other night. Just wondering how long it's going to take to get 100% and wondering if it's worth it.

    Got a locked trophy last night. It's called "Dasterdly"


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    I beat the game using my brothers save file on Monday. I am not even going to bother playing it again. I downloaded the new DLC, and don't even have friends online to play the DLC with.
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