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    While on a media call the other day, Stephanie said:

    the company intends to eventually have equal representation of men and women on the active rosters of all three brands, RAW, SmackDown, and NXT.
    https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/20...e-5050-673905/

    They can't properly handle all the women that get featured as it is. How's it going to work with even more of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasori View Post
    While on a media call the other day, Stephanie said:



    https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/20...e-5050-673905/

    They can't properly handle all the women that get featured as it is. How's it going to work with even more of them?

    They can't properly handle all the MEN that get featured as it is, as well. So as long as they pay women 70 cents on the dollar to what they pay men, they can call this PROGRESS, but really, it's what's best for business.

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    Well, what we'll see is the obvious. They'll limit the number of men on each brand. Or they're going to have a shit ton of wrestlers just twiddling their thumbs.

    Then we have the opinion that quality over quantity=better results but the WWE's mentality seems to be quantity over quality. And is there a real demand for the show to be 50/50. Yes, girls, women do like wrestling. It's catered to them just like romance novels and daytime soaps. That's why they call this a male soap opera. I mean, if a girl watches wrestling and wonders why there aren't as many girls as there are guys, that's a moot point.

    The show needs to be good I don't care if it was 90% women. The reality is, at least in the US, we don't have the same number of talented women as we do men, it's the way it is. Just like when you watch women's MMA. It's just not there yet. They have some fucking entertaining killers, but compared to the amount of male fighters....Eh, progress.

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    Liv finally gets a shirt and this is the best they could come up with?


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    Man, that's just plain bad taste, especially after Sonya Deville's recent troubles with stalkers.

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    Calm down. 'Watch me' is her catchphrase that she posts on her social media all the time.

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    I would have never put together the Sonya connection in a hundred years without serious help lol. I was thinking of the Cage song " Watch Me"

    The shirt isn't horrible if this were the late 90's. So it's either shit or nostalgic, or both.

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    Shame on me. I guess that shirt brings out the stalker side of me.

    Reminds me of the Peter Sellers movie "Being There". I like to watch.

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    I don't mind the simplicity of the design but the picture looks like it was done by someone who was using Photoshop for the first time.

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    I think a lowercase eye with the big round dot above it would be more eye pleasing as far as lettering goes.

    You could even keep liv inside the eye with her head taking up the space

    Or you could make the dot above the eye a square and give it a window like look so it seems you are peering into her home. Give 3puppies that vibe her was going for.

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    Watch me... 7?

    It took me too damn long to realize that's a lowercase "L".

    If it were a shot at Sonya Deville, it should say "Watch Me Sleep".

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    WWE's merch has been the drizzling shits for years, and that Liv shirt is amateur schlock.

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    I just sitting here thinking, damn a lot of people missed out on the "What beautiful WWE female will grace the pages of Playboy this year?!?!" Shout out to hackers.

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    Once Playboy published Chyna, it was all over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puppies View Post
    Once Playboy published Chyna, it was all over.
    Shit Chyna was the 2nd right? I think both her and Sable had two issues, the 2nd one Chyna did also had The Kat. Record breaking sales. Crazy right? I'm pretty sure I have at least the first Sable and first Chyna. I might have Maria's.

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    Bayley is awesome, that is all.

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    I like the storyline of Miz having enough pull to get Mandy Rose traded to RAW to help Otis to "focus"

    Good heel storyline.

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    I dont follow lana on Instagram (nor get on insta) but she says she is being cyber bullied for posting vids. When are celebs gonna learn you cant have a perfect life? If your famous and you get on social media there are gonna be trolls. Would I like to see that go away? Sure. Let's just live in reality though.

    She said shes going to possibly take it down. Fine, that's an option but with the money she makes she could hire someone to remove those trolls for her so she can live in pretend land and believe everyone lives everything she does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virmicious View Post
    I dont follow lana on Instagram (nor get on insta) but she says she is being cyber bullied for posting vids. When are celebs gonna learn you cant have a perfect life? If your famous and you get on social media there are gonna be trolls. Would I like to see that go away? Sure. Let's just live in reality though.

    She said shes going to possibly take it down. Fine, that's an option but with the money she makes she could hire someone to remove those trolls for her so she can live in pretend land and believe everyone lives everything she does.
    There's a huge part of me that always thinks, why focus on the 1% that are fucking with you and focus on the 99% that are praising you? But that's just not the real world. I think being a "celeb" you definitely need to have thick skin compared to the average joe. But I know we zone out to the negative way more often than we show love to the positives.

    Women have been trained for this shit since elementary school. Women/girls are the most shit talking humans on the planet, especially about people they are cool with lol.

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    All women secretly hate each other.

    Also, I kind of doubt a lot of shit Lana says. "Escape goat"? Remember "escape goat"?

    Chick's a let the peroxide get to her brain a little bit. She's an idiot.

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    I still think Rusev is a lucky lucky man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puppies View Post
    I still think Rusev is a lucky lucky man.
    Naw, his wife seems way too high maintenance and psychotic. She aint even that good looking especially in comparison to most women on Earth. Now if you're into early 90's pornstar, sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virmicious View Post
    I dont follow lana on Instagram (nor get on insta) but she says she is being cyber bullied for posting vids. When are celebs gonna learn you cant have a perfect life? If your famous and you get on social media there are gonna be trolls. Would I like to see that go away? Sure. Let's just live in reality though.
    1. Curt Hennig had a perfect life.
    2. If trolling went away, what would you do without forums.rajah.com?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Naw, his wife seems way too high maintenance and psychotic. She aint even that good looking especially in comparison to most women on Earth. Now if you're into early 90's pornstar, sure.
    I happen to be really into 90s pornstars and Lana floats my boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rancid_Planet View Post
    I happen to be really into 90s pornstars and Lana floats my boat.
    Lana is basically a 90's porn star. Big, fake tits? Check. Peroxide blonde hair? Check. Legs that won't quit? Check. Kind of an idiot? Check.

    If Jill Kelly ever spent two years talking like Natasha from the Rocky And Bullwinkle cartoons, she'd basically be Lana.

    Except Jill Kelly might be smarter. She runs her own porno company. Lana said she's an "escape goat".

    Yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudz Mackenzie View Post

    Except Jill Kelly might be smarter. She runs her own porno company. Lana said she's an "escape goat".
    Given the previous subject matter you were talking about, an "escape goat" sounds like something found on the dark, scary places of the internets that I dare not tread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supernovametalstar View Post
    Given the previous subject matter you were talking about, an "escape goat" sounds like something found on the dark, scary places of the internets that I dare not tread
    Nah. Its only The Dark Web when the goat doesn't escape.

    ... I think I've said too much.

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    Here's a question that stems from a recent 2 post discussion about Kushida being NXT champion. In my head I'm thinking ok, why are we not seeing a Japanese "world" champion but no issue with a Japanese wrestler holding other titles? Nakamura is about it if we're talking NXT championship. No Japanese ECW champion, right? Nakamura has been the closest with his feuds against Jinder and Styles.

    With the women, no issue. Asuka, arguably the most dominant female wrestler of all time. Multiple time women's champion across 3 brands. I'm putting this discussion in the Women's thread because I wonder if the Women's title is on the same level of the World in terms of how the WWE approaches who represents the women.

    Are they looking at a woman who can be on the talk shows and do the commercial spots that require dialogue? Why are the US so against overdubbing these days? lol. Just pipe in Shane McMahon's voice when Nakamura is doing a Nike ad.

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    The women's roster isn't as deep as the men's, so I think it's easier for a Japanese woman to take the top title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasori View Post
    The women's roster isn't as deep as the men's, so I think it's easier for a Japanese woman to take the top title.
    True. I thought about that too. But then I thought about how we don't really see much diversity with the men's roster. How many wrestlers are never on tv? How many aren't even on Main Event or even doing house shows? I think it's ultimately quality over quantity. Or we'd be seeing Tamina with a title run by now lol.

    I think with the women they just don't see that champion as being on par with the men's World champ. I don't even think when Rousey was champ they were trying to really get her out there as a WWE spokesperson the same way the UFC were doing.

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    Chelsea Green:
    My thought is that she was getting called up with an association with Charlotte Flair. That seems to be a connective thread that makes sense. She's been off NXT but the last thing she did was basically take a bullet for Charlotte in a tag match in NXT. Green dropped Robert Stone and disappeared. Charlotte took time off, as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    Chelsea Green:
    My thought is that she was getting called up with an association with Charlotte Flair. That seems to be a connective thread that makes sense. She's been off NXT but the last thing she did was basically take a bullet for Charlotte in a tag match in NXT. Green dropped Robert Stone and disappeared. Charlotte took time off, as well.
    Very interesting. I almost asked "is she still doing house shows?" LOL.

    Curious to see what they have planned for her. If there is something with her and Charlotte I think they dropped that before Charlotte left as she was basically surfing all 3 brands and then got her shit rocked by Nia.

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    I was thinking the mystery woman vignettes on SmackDown were for Chelsea at first but signs seem to be pointing towards it being Carmella so now I'm not sure. But yeah, if plans were for her to be linked with Charlotte but then Charlotte took time off, that probably threw a wrench in the plans that will need to be reowrked into something else. Honestly, I can't say as I'm particularly concerned about it as she never impressed me on NXT so I'm not exactly eager to see her again.

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    I'd rather see Chelsea Green than Carmella any damn day of the week.

    Chelsea might not be super impressive, but Carmella is the drizzling shits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post
    I was thinking the mystery woman vignettes on SmackDown were for Chelsea at first but signs seem to be pointing towards it being Carmella so now I'm not sure. But yeah, if plans were for her to be linked with Charlotte but then Charlotte took time off, that probably threw a wrench in the plans that will need to be reowrked into something else. Honestly, I can't say as I'm particularly concerned about it as she never impressed me on NXT so I'm not exactly eager to see her again.
    No pun intended but despite her experience she comes across as pretty green still. Honestly, I have only enjoyed her as that weird bride gimmick she was doing in Impact not too long ago.

    If it's her and not Carmella that would be great but I think people have uncovered it is Carmella based on a tat she has that people saw on the vignettes. Weak.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spudz Mackenzie View Post
    I'd rather see Chelsea Green than Carmella any damn day of the week.

    Chelsea might not be super impressive, but Carmella is the drizzling shits.
    Exactly.

    TBH, I was not negative to her winning MITB and the pairing with Ellsworth. It worked, it was pretty funny in a stupid way. But that whole bullshit where Charlotte beat Asuka at Mania then jobbed 2 weeks later to Carmella, who then beat Asuka as well. FUCK YOU.

    I'm sorry, I know it's extremely frowned upon to ever in a million years suggest that a woman fucking her way into a spot is just absurd and unheard of but seriously......We know it was confirmed by many many people in the WWE that Taker wanted Michelle McCool to be a champion which is why they created the 2 women's titles so would it be a shock if Cena was using his stroke since they were together at this time?

    Think about it............She hasn't really done a damn thing since they split up and now she's with Graves, big fucking woop lol.

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    I saw someone on Reddit say, if the "mystery woman" had open toed shoes on, he could have identified her right then.

    I ran screaming from that conversation to the waiting, comforting arms of this forum.

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    I'd take Carmella over Chelsea. At least Carmella's got personality and I thought did well to make herself unlikable as a heel and also did well to make herself likeable as a face when she was with Truth. She ain't much in the ring but I remember enjoying a couple of her bouts and I can't say the same for Chelsea thus far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post
    I'd take Carmella over Chelsea. At least Carmella's got personality and I thought did well to make herself unlikable as a heel and also did well to make herself likeable as a face when she was with Truth. She ain't much in the ring but I remember enjoying a couple of her bouts and I can't say the same for Chelsea thus far.
    This. Carmella "gets it" more than most of the talent on the roster. She may not be the most talented in the ring, but she has improved since she was given the title. It's not like she's as bad as Lana, Dana Brooke, Tamina, Nia, Liv Morgan, or Billie Kay in the ring, etc.

    But I somehow suspect that the mystery woman vignettes will turn out to be a swerve. They may use Carmella for the vignettes, but the actual wrestler to be revealed will be none other than Lars Sullivan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puppies View Post
    This. Carmella "gets it" more than most of the talent on the roster. She may not be the most talented in the ring, but she has improved since she was given the title. It's not like she's as bad as Lana, Dana Brooke, Tamina, Nia, Liv Morgan, or Billie Kay in the ring, etc.

    But I somehow suspect that the mystery woman vignettes will turn out to be a swerve. They may use Carmella for the vignettes, but the actual wrestler to be revealed will be none other than Lars Sullivan.
    In his new gimmick as "Lars Notaman".

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puppies View Post
    This. Carmella "gets it" more than most of the talent on the roster. She may not be the most talented in the ring, but she has improved since she was given the title. It's not like she's as bad as Lana, Dana Brooke, Tamina, Nia, Liv Morgan, or Billie Kay in the ring, etc.

    But I somehow suspect that the mystery woman vignettes will turn out to be a swerve. They may use Carmella for the vignettes, but the actual wrestler to be revealed will be none other than Lars Sullivan.
    Liv doesn't belong on this list.

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    Neither does Nia. *dodges stones being thrown*

    EDIT: Also, fairly significant Naomi news from her IG:
    “In the midst of hurricane Sally and COVID, I also underwent an unexpected 6 hour surgery to finally remove a massive fibroid that’s caused me severe anemia fatigue, horrible abdominal pains, and more problems I don’t even want to mention over the past year and a half,”
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    Hope Naomi recovers fully and rapidly. This explains her not being able to follow up to challenge for a title shot when she clearly deserves it much more than anyone else.

    Its too bad that Total Divas isn't filming due to COVID, because stuff like this is way more compelling TV than the scripted shit they gave us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post
    I'd take Carmella over Chelsea. At least Carmella's got personality and I thought did well to make herself unlikable as a heel and also did well to make herself likeable as a face when she was with Truth. She ain't much in the ring but I remember enjoying a couple of her bouts and I can't say the same for Chelsea thus far.
    I think Carmella as a heel is tolerable but it's still very basic heel work that doesn't really require skill. As a babyface she's terrible because she doesn't really have a personality people want to connect with and she literally only knows how to superkick, even that sucks.

    If you're talking strictly WWE-NXT then how many bouts in comparison to Carmella have you seen of Green's? Probably way more matches to give Carmella props since Green has like 10 televised appearances and maybe 8 were matches. Carmella's been on the main roster for how long? Still about as average as Kelly Kelly.

    Quote Originally Posted by 3puppies View Post
    This. Carmella "gets it" more than most of the talent on the roster. She may not be the most talented in the ring, but she has improved since she was given the title. It's not like she's as bad as Lana, Dana Brooke, Tamina, Nia, Liv Morgan, or Billie Kay in the ring, etc.

    But I somehow suspect that the mystery woman vignettes will turn out to be a swerve. They may use Carmella for the vignettes, but the actual wrestler to be revealed will be none other than Lars Sullivan.
    She's not as bad she's worse than pretty much everyone you named sans Tamina. And I'd even argue that Tamina has a better superkick since that's the only move either one of them know. Now if Cameron was still in the WWE then Carmella would definitely be better than her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puppies View Post
    This. Carmella "gets it" more than most of the talent on the roster. She may not be the most talented in the ring, but she has improved since she was given the title. It's not like she's as bad as Lana, Dana Brooke, Tamina, Nia, Liv Morgan, or Billie Kay in the ring, etc.

    But I somehow suspect that the mystery woman vignettes will turn out to be a swerve. They may use Carmella for the vignettes, but the actual wrestler to be revealed will be none other than Lars Sullivan.
    Yikes, yeah Liv most certainly doesn't belong on that list, and I'd argue from a wrestling stand point she is another step above Carmella. And I actually don't hate Carmella. She's played an entertaining chicken shit heel. But her wrestling as a face (unless she is working against Bayley, who make makes her look way better than she deserves) leaves A LOT to be desired. I don't hate Billie Kay. She oozes charisma and personality, but she should be 100% a manager for Peyton, as she is atrocious in the ring. Billie is a reminder that sometimes it doesn't matter how long you've been in the business (for her, since 2007), sometimes you're just not very good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post

    She's not as bad she's worse than pretty much everyone you named sans Tamina. And I'd even argue that Tamina has a better superkick since that's the only move either one of them know. Now if Cameron was still in the WWE then Carmella would definitely be better than her.
    LOLOL this made me chuckle.

    Sometimes I spend lots of time at another site (I won't shit talk it because they break news faster than most other sites but some of the people in the comments are... woof... a lot to handle) and I lose faith in the niche community of women's wrestling because the kids over there love women like Cameron, Dana, Billie Kay, etc. and hate the 4HW (especially Bayley) Nikki Cross, Mia Yim, Tegan Nox, Candice LeRae... and then I remember there are sane people like you, and all is OK in the world again.

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    Watching Cameron in that AEW women's tag-team tournament thing, I can safely say that Cameron is at least as good as Carmella now.

    Maybe slightly better.

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    beeteedubz regarding Chelsea Green but part of the reason she may not have shown up for awhile yet was because she had Covid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post
    beeteedubz regarding Chelsea Green but part of the reason she may not have shown up for awhile yet was because she had Covid.
    That might explain why Matt Cardona hasn't been on AEW TV for a while either.

    He hasn't wrestled on their programming since All Out.

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    Though not fully confirmed, there have been multiple reports that Tegan Nox's angle on last Wednesday's NXT went down the way it was because she suffered another severe knee injury.

    Good....ness. That's absolutely brutal luck, if the extent of the injury is that severe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    Though not fully confirmed, there have been multiple reports that Tegan Nox's angle on last Wednesday's NXT went down the way it was because she suffered another severe knee injury.

    Good....ness. That's absolutely brutal luck, if the extent of the injury is that severe.
    You know its bad when, instead of a knee injury, you actually hope its Covid-19.

    Somehow an illness that's killed 200,000 people is a better alternative than blowing a knee out, for a second time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    Though not fully confirmed, there have been multiple reports that Tegan Nox's angle on last Wednesday's NXT went down the way it was because she suffered another severe knee injury.

    Good....ness. That's absolutely brutal luck, if the extent of the injury is that severe.
    Saw that a couple days ago but hoped it wasn't legit 'cuz I only saw it on one site. But that makes it sound pretty likely which is absolutely horrible for Nox. Goddamn. Here's hoping it's a work and we see her pop up to cost Candace the match at TakeOver...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post
    beeteedubz regarding Chelsea Green but part of the reason she may not have shown up for awhile yet was because she had Covid.
    For 5 months? She's been off for a long time. I don't think covid has anything to do with it, I think it's just like with Riddick Moss. A talent that had no place being called up because they still needed time to get better and they didn't do hardly shit with them.

    And Spudz, Zack Ryder only has a handful of dates with AEW he wasn't signed to anything huge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    Though not fully confirmed, there have been multiple reports that Tegan Nox's angle on last Wednesday's NXT went down the way it was because she suffered another severe knee injury.

    Good....ness. That's absolutely brutal luck, if the extent of the injury is that severe.
    WWE is now saying Tegan did suffer a torn ACL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGMaverick View Post
    WWE is now saying Tegan did suffer a torn ACL.
    She's done. At least she should be. I know the WWE, for some reason, were very high on this kid but she's not made for this sport. If you can't last 2-3 months without a serious injury like this constantly happening then it's time to find something else. The fuck, does she just walk to the toilet and tear her shit in half?

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    She's a big Kane fan, but it sounds like her knees really liked Kevin Nash.

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