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    If they are going for Owens/Jericho at WM, which it looks obvious that they are, I'd much prefer to see it be for the Universal Title.

    The two biggest things Jericho has never done is win the Royal Rumble and win a variation of the World Title in the main event of a WM. He is the hottest thing in the company at the moment and will never have another chance to do these things, things which I think he deserves given his career.

    Don't believe it will happen for a second, but I'd like it to.

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    Who is going to be the face? I assume Jericho? It's a shame though.

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    Jericho would have to be the face. Even if he were the heel, he'd get cheered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McBain View Post
    Who is going to be the face? I assume Jericho? It's a shame though.
    He kind of already is. Wouldn't need to change anything he does, just who he was targeting with it.

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    The fans are going to go apeshit the moment he puts Owens on the list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP View Post
    If they are going for Owens/Jericho at WM, which it looks obvious that they are, I'd much prefer to see it be for the Universal Title.

    The two biggest things Jericho has never done is win the Royal Rumble and win a variation of the World Title in the main event of a WM. He is the hottest thing in the company at the moment and will never have another chance to do these things, things which I think he deserves given his career.

    Don't believe it will happen for a second, but I'd like it to.
    Agreed. Jericho winning the Universal title would be the best feelgood moment they could offer at Mania.

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    Jericho has no chance. He is not in their longterm plans.
    Iím against picketing, but I donít know how to show it.

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    If they are not going to put the belt on Jericho then Owen/sJericho can go to the middle of the card to try and steal the show. Cena/Taker should be the last match regardless if a title is involved.

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    I wouldn't rule out a short reign at least depending on his Fozzy schedule.

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    - WWE will reportedly finalize the WrestleMania card interally sometime within the next two weeks. The reason for this is that the booking of the Royal Rumble will determine the direction for WrestleMania.

    Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter.

    Astute journalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrandolph1985 View Post
    Jericho has no chance. He is not in their longterm plans.
    I thought they never had long term plans?

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    They don't for a guy who doesn't see himself in a WWE ring come next summer (or May for that matter).

    I love the KO and Jericho matchup, but when it does end, they really should use it to build Kevin back up again. He could use this feud with Jericho as a way to make himself up as a monster again. Just let the breakup of their friendship get real nasty and bloody, with KO getting the clear victory over his former friend. That would give him some of his mojo back, and it can be done with or without the title.

    BECAUSE WE GET A DOUBLE CHAMPION ROMAN REIGNS FOR WRESTLEMANIA!!! I hope he feuds with Rollins again. We have never seen that before!
    Iím against picketing, but I donít know how to show it.

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    They could face off at FastLane instead to build Owens for Mania.

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    I wouldn't be totally shocked if Vince decides that Roman needs both belts at mania. At this point he's long since lost all touch with reality when it comes to booking Roman.

    And if that doesn't work then Roman will probably get booked in 9 matches at next year's mania and win all of them.

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    If I get a third year in a row of Roman being in the world title match at WM, I will move to South Africa and become a Hari Krishna.
    Iím against picketing, but I donít know how to show it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rancid_Planet View Post
    I wouldn't be totally shocked if Vince decides that Roman needs both belts at mania. At this point he's long since lost all touch with reality when it comes to booking Roman.

    And if that doesn't work then Roman will probably get booked in 9 matches at next year's mania and win all of them.
    With Kid Rock playing in the middle of it?

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    Oh totally.

    American Badass/Bawitdabaw medley.

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    Throw some Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park and I'm in. We'll party like it's 2002.
    Iím against picketing, but I donít know how to show it.

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    My son watched Royal Rumble 2015 this morning. You could see that Roman was already getting mixed reactions, but to witness the moment that actually sealed his fate one more time was a bit unnerving, particularly the way they turned on the Rock by association. Pushing Roman as a huge babyface was never going to work. He was already getting booed before he even entered the ring.

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    Comfortably the worst booked match of all time. Just terrible. Bryan going early and Kane/Show taking out every other wrestler the crowd cared for is asinine, then the stupid bait finish with Rusev and a waste of a Rock appearance shoehorned in. It wasn't like it was a hard Rumble to book even if you have Roman win - end it with a Shield final 3 after a standoff with the Wyatt 3, old partners siding to eliminate the old enemy before going back to war. Roman still gets booed at the end but at least it pays off an angle and has 2 guys the fans can get behind (and buy as winners) against him at the end. And never book Bryan for the match, it wasn't needed, didn't set up a 'Mania angle and crapped on the fans expectations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kure View Post
    My son watched Royal Rumble 2015 this morning. You could see that Roman was already getting mixed reactions, but to witness the moment that actually sealed his fate one more time was a bit unnerving, particularly the way they turned on the Rock by association. Pushing Roman as a huge babyface was never going to work. He was already getting booed before he even entered the ring.
    This made me want to watch this, just turned it on but got distracted by Cena/Rollins/Lesnar

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrandolph1985 View Post
    Throw some Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park and I'm in. We'll party like it's 2002.
    Limp Bizkit Austin/Rock video package for Mania X7 is easily the best ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Limp Bizkit Austin/Rock video package for Mania X7 is easily the best ever.
    Good, but pales in comparison to some, including this;


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    You got a point there, that package always gets me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP View Post
    Good, but pales in comparison to some, including this;

    That's nowhere near as good as the My Way one.

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    Makes the My Way one look like a Nancy Boy.

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    Both video packages are amazing. My Way is aweome for the action and anticipation leading to the WM X-7. The Running Up the Hill one is just great storytelling about the feud.

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    The original sin of the Roman backlash was putting Daniel Bryan in that Royal Rumble. If he's in the match, he has to win. If he's not going to win, don't bring him back until after the Rumble. The crowd turned on the match the second Bryan was eliminated. Only guys they got up for after that were Ziggler, Ambrose, and MizDow. Had Bryan not returned before the Rumble I don't think there would have been backlash to Reigns winning. But after that night there was no way that a large portion of the fanbase was ever going to accept him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Law View Post
    The original sin of the Roman backlash was putting Daniel Bryan in that Royal Rumble. If he's in the match, he has to win. If he's not going to win, don't bring him back until after the Rumble. The crowd turned on the match the second Bryan was eliminated. Only guys they got up for after that were Ziggler, Ambrose, and MizDow. Had Bryan not returned before the Rumble I don't think there would have been backlash to Reigns winning. But after that night there was no way that a large portion of the fanbase was ever going to accept him.
    Funny story; I was watching that Rumble with a buddy of mine, getting completely hammered and we're talking. And I just said, okay, lay this shit out; who's your prediction? And I said, "Mine's D-Bry. They're gonna have him win and the do the big Cena/D-Bry rematch at 'Mania." Literally seconds later, they do the double-team spot where Rusev and Wyatt team up to eliminate D-Bry.

    I doomed Daniel Bryan with my hubris.

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    The idea that anyone but Daniel Bryan would win that Rumble never entered my mind because it seemed so insane. Like "No way are they stupid enough to do that again." Turned out they were exactly that stupid.

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    If wrestling was important enough, there should be a textbook written in how not to push someone. Many wrestlers have been screwed over by bad booking and decision-making, but Roman takes the cake.

    But even if he was pushed mostly right, I just don't see him having the talent to carry the company like Cena has. How many years will it take before he is cut loose and allowed to develop more naturally?
    Iím against picketing, but I donít know how to show it.

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    you were kidding yourself if you thought bryan was winning that rumble. i knew roman was winning and argued as much a month before in a Wilfred debate on the subject. despite how wrestlemania 30 ended up, you could just feel how bitter the WWE felt about their plans being hijacked. expecting things to be different a year later was asking a bit much.

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    think they will learn there lesson if they reject him for a 3rd year in a row

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    Not a chance.

    He's in a handicap match this RAW against two of the most cheered heels on the brand.

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    People think keeping Cena face for his main event run up unto this point was great for business yet all signs in the past have shown that major stars kept fresh by changing it up (Austin, Rock, Hogan, Taker, HHH)

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    Look lads, when we get to the point where ignore amazing puns, what is the point anymore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr sabu View Post
    think they will learn there lesson if they reject him for a 3rd year in a row
    why would they? they never did anything with cena.

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    Everyone is all 'Vince is pushing Roman because he has big muscles lolz' , but watching 95 Raws and PPV's, his constant fawning and practically orgasming over HBK says maybe he isn't quite as bias as we think

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Limp Bizkit Austin/Rock video package for Mania X7 is easily the best ever.
    And what does TNA do when they get their hands on the guy that produced that and other video montages for WWE?

    Make him a fucking show director and never use him to put together video montage packages.

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    Roman has a great look and pretty damn good in-ring skills. He's just boring which is why he doesn't even get the same love from the kids as Cena does.

    But I'm not letting what they do with Roman at mania ruin the show for me.

    Of course I said that last year and came away disappointed with the show but I feel like that would have been the case regardless of the main event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rancid_Planet View Post
    And what does TNA do when they get their hands on the guy that produced that and other video montages for WWE?

    Make him a fucking show director and never use him to put together video montage packages.
    TNA, couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery.

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    The suspension came at the wrong time for Reigns as that series with Styles was awesome and looked to settle him in as a main eventer. Like he looked ready to be the ace of the company at that point. Then he gets suspended and pushed back in line as third most relevant babyface while still getting protected. Rusuv feud sucked and made him look like an arsehole, the alliance with Rollins is insincere and now the Owens feud is overshadowed by Owens/Jericho. Honestly, putting the title on him and defending against guys like Zayn and Cesaro in quality matches will get him back to that aura of a star, but he will never be a loved babyface in this incarnation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rancid_Planet View Post
    And what does TNA do when they get their hands on the guy that produced that and other video montages for WWE?

    Make him a fucking show director and never use him to put together video montage packages.
    Well, that's why he would have moved jobs, surely?

    If you're working for WWE the only reason you'd leave for another company lower in the market is because they could offer you a comparatively higher position to the one you currently occupy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP View Post
    Well, that's why he would have moved jobs, surely?

    If you're working for WWE the only reason you'd leave for another company lower in the market is because they could offer you a comparatively higher position to the one you currently occupy.
    A good point but I feel like, if you're TNA, you attempt to maximize the fuck out of the production talent you have.

    I only bring it up because the whole deal seems to keep getting mentioned on every other podcast I hear lately.

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    Tommy End got a new name

    Aleister Black.

    I don't like it but that's probably just because it's new. If he sticks around I'm sure I'll get used to it

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    I can't wait to see what Alastair Black does.

    Seriouly, how cringeworthy is the actual gimmick?
    Last edited by Badger; January 8th, 2017 at 1:03 PM.

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    what gimmick?

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    Don't know much about Tommy End, so don't know if the name change is part of a gimmick or not. If it's just a cocky-sounding name then fair enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rancid_Planet View Post
    A good point but I feel like, if you're TNA, you attempt to maximize the fuck out of the production talent you have.

    I only bring it up because the whole deal seems to keep getting mentioned on every other podcast I hear lately.
    Since they don't pay their production team, that's as maximised as you can get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Don't know much about Tommy End, so don't know if the name change is part of a gimmick or not. If it's just a cocky-sounding name then fair enough.
    Tommy is a nasty striker who is a bit into the occult. The name is a bit of a homage to aleister crowley.

    He's a decent promo from what I've seen. The gimmick could absolutely end.up being shit but if it works it could be awesome.

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    Is the 2015 Rumble the worst booked match of all time? 2014 was bad as well but as a result of an isolated decision (Bryan not in it/winning it). 2015 had all of this:

    - Bryan eliminated early and treated as a total non event.
    - Show and Kane dumping out all the hot young talent.
    - Roman being booked like a monster even though the crowd hated it.
    - Kane and Show only being eliminated cos they were arguing amongst themselves.
    - Trying to get Rock's popularity to transfer into Roman only for Rock to get booed for supporting Reigns.

    Still find it hard to believe that they thought any of that pile of shit Rumble was a good idea.
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    Yep, worst booked match of all time. No redeeming qualities, just a relentless one hour punishment for the vast majority of the audience. 2014 I actually rate as a match and have sympathy for WWE since Bryan was never advertised for the match, but it certainly made no sense (at the time) not having him win it. I feel it looks better in retrospect how it turned out too, with Occupy Raw, heel Batista and the HHH match.

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    Bubba Ray Dudley's return and Boogey vs. Bray were redeeming qualities! I remember enjoying it until Bryan got dumped out. Dreadful after that, so much so that I'm sure WWE was consciously trolling the fans. Yeah, 2014 and 2015 are both notorious but the former is much more easily defended.
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    Could very well be. As mentioned, 2014 is bad mostly because of the decision to not do the obvious and have Bryan win it, and then go on to win the title at Mania. If you get past that, the booking of the actual match isn't THAT bad. 2015 on the other hand is just horrible on all levels.

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    No doubt that the last two Rumbles had some serious fucking issues.

    I have very high hopes for this year though.
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    The one Reigns won was one of the worst. They basically had Kane and Big show lumber around and eliminate everyone while Reigns lay in the corner and waited for his spots to eliminate people. Was woeful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chatty View Post
    The one Reigns won was one of the worst. They basically had Kane and Big show lumber around and eliminate everyone while Reigns lay in the corner and waited for his spots to eliminate people. Was woeful.
    Don't forget the stretcher job

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdestiny View Post
    Don't forget the stretcher job
    Yeah, aint they had Reigns taken out for half the match for the last two. Like it would make look better to miss half the match and just turn up at the end. The last one he just walked out then came back half an hour later

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fanny Batter View Post
    Yep, worst booked match of all time. No redeeming qualities, just a relentless one hour punishment for the vast majority of the audience. 2014 I actually rate as a match and have sympathy for WWE since Bryan was never advertised for the match, but it certainly made no sense (at the time) not having him win it. I feel it looks better in retrospect how it turned out too, with Occupy Raw, heel Batista and the HHH match.
    Yeah they certainly managed to fix it and in retrospect you wouldn't want to lose any of those moments. But as far as booking the actual match goes, it's just outrageously stupid and nonsensical and insulting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo View Post
    Bubba Ray Dudley's return and Boogey vs. Bray were redeeming qualities! I remember enjoying it until Bryan got dumped out. Dreadful after that, so much so that I'm sure WWE was consciously trolling the fans. Yeah, 2014 and 2015 are both notorious but the former is much more easily defended.
    Yeah, Bryan being dumped like it was no big deal and the camera panning to him with "shattered dreams" on the screen behind him. Then you had Dolph, Ambrose and Bray literally dumped over the top rope by old man Kane and old man Show. I don't think there can be any doubt they were telling the fans to shove their discontent up their arse.

    Quote Originally Posted by kdestiny View Post
    Don't forget the stretcher job
    That was last year but yes, absolutely ludicrous. They booked him to go take a half hour break then come back right at the death like that's the trait of the next mega face of the company. So fucking stupid.

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    I do have quite high hopes for this year. As far as the actual match goes, we're likely to get a Shield showdown, Goldberg/Lesnar confrontation will be interesting, possible Bullet Club interaction, possibility of a Joe debut (doesn't seem to have been at the recent NXT tapings). Plus it'll be heavy on big names for a change. Hoping that since Reigns is in the title match he won't be in the Rumble, makes it less likely the fans will shit all over it anyway.

    Who are we calling to win it then? I actually think Undertaker is probably most likely at this point. Cena wins against AJ, Taker wins the Rumble and challenges Cena for the belt which belongs to the show he was always affiliated with. Basic but would be hot and the main event.

    There's such a lack of heat around the Raw main eventers that I struggle to see any of them winning it. Can't see Finn being back. So more likely to see Owens/Jericho non title and something like Rollins/Reigns/Balor/Strowman for the title.

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    Does Cena vs Taker really need the title though? I don't feel that it adds that much to that feud, but it could add a lot to an AJ Styles match (maybe a three way vs Orton and Wyatt, or if you're more daring, a newly called up Samoa Joe or Nakamura?). If I was in charge I would book Mania similar to 19, where you had both Austin vs Rock and Hogan vs McMahon on the card, but still ends it with a title match between two full time wrestlers (Brock vs Angle).

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    It doesn't need the title but I just struggle to see where else they go with it. If they do Taker/Cena its main eventing regardless.

    If Taker costs Cena who do you have win the Rumble to challenge AJ? They're so short on faces there so unless you have some either debut and win it or jump ship and challenge I'm not sure where they go.

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    That's the big question, I agree. Maybe turn Bray face and have him face AJ? When they've tease face Bray before, the reactions have been good. And having him finally getting his big win at Mania by beating AJ could be great. Or you could have a Raw guy win the rumble, preferably a healthy Finn, although the time might be running out for that. I don't know, I might have been burned by last years Wrestlemania where it felt like it all part-timer, all over the place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordo View Post
    Tommy End got a new name

    Aleister Black.

    I don't like it but that's probably just because it's new. If he sticks around I'm sure I'll get used to it
    I like it. Dude seems pretty rad. I'm excited about him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    That was last year but yes, absolutely ludicrous. They booked him to go take a half hour break then come back right at the death like that's the trait of the next mega face of the company. So fucking stupid.
    they did the same shit with austin in the '99 rumble. they had him stretchered and ambulanced away only to show back up and be one of the final two. nobody says austin went and took a fucking break.

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    So just read the reason for the Alicia/dar pairing is because Vince thinks when dar says Fox it's sounds like fucks due to his accent. Apparently he thinks it's funny he can have someone swear on a PG show and get away with it.

    I really hope this is true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    they did the same shit with austin in the '99 rumble. they had him stretchered and ambulanced away only to show back up and be one of the final two. nobody says austin went and took a fucking break.
    Austin is one of the biggest draws ever and his body wasn't in the best of shape at the time. Roman gets middling reactions on a consistent basis and he was perfectly healthy.

    Roman Reigns has the charisma of an old shoe. They've been pushing this guy for years and it still isn't working. Stop it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison View Post
    they did the same shit with austin in the '99 rumble. they had him stretchered and ambulanced away only to show back up and be one of the final two. nobody says austin went and took a fucking break.
    The difference is that Austin was beaten unconscious by the Corporation and then taken away. He had to steal an Ambulance to get back to the Arena and re-entered the Rumble halfway through. Roman walked to the back under his own power and for all we know was just taking a break. He also re-entered the Rumble when it was almost over. Had he been taken away unconscious and spent more time in the Rumble, it would have made him look allot better.

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    When did Reigns come back in? Austin came back in around number 19 when Shamrock was entering I think. Then he did a bunch of stuff and dominated the match until Rock came out.

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    Didn't Reigns come back to the at the number 29 or so? By running down the ring spearing Sheamus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virmicious View Post
    So just read the reason for the Alicia/dar pairing is because Vince thinks when dar says Fox it's sounds like fucks due to his accent. Apparently he thinks it's funny he can have someone swear on a PG show and get away with it.

    I really hope this is true.
    This "news" has been going around for the last 2 weeks. It's literally just a joke that Bryan Alvarez made on the observer so people took it as a legitimate story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    There's such a lack of heat around the Raw main eventers that I struggle to see any of them winning it. Can't see Finn being back. So more likely to see Owens/Jericho non title and something like Rollins/Reigns/Balor/Strowman for the title.
    Rollins is clearly going to face HHH.

    Also, why don't you think Balor would come back here? I think end of January is pretty much like right around schedule or a few weeks ahead but if he enters late and doesn't do much, I don't think it will be an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rancid_Planet View Post
    No doubt that the last two Rumbles had some serious fucking issues.

    I have very high hopes for this year though.
    I thought last year's Rumble was good. It was 2015 that sucked.

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    Awww. Little kid gets nervous around Finn Balor.

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    Finn is the fucking man. I don't care if his matches have been mostly 'meh," that dude has so much presence about him, and natural charisma.

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    I don't think his matches have been meh. His matches with Crews, Neville, Joe, Owens and Nakamura have all been good to great in my opinion. The Beast in the East match with Owens and the Takeover Rival match against Neville stand out for me.

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    Finn is a good wrestler, but for me, not many of his matches have stood out. I liked his matches with Owens, I liked one of his matches with Joe, and his match with Nakamura was pretty fantastic. But the rest hasn't really popped compared to other matches.

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    Finn is a top-notch worker. In today's WWE, all you need is to possess a good to above-average in-ring ability. The important parts are the intangibles that Psycho666 noted above - charisma, likability and presence while in the spotlight. Finn possess everything needed to be a major star.

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    Speaking of in-ring ability.....I read a kid's rant on Instagram about Tye Dillinger's match with Bobby Roode at the last Takeover. This kid was shitting on Tye because his moveset was too basic in comparison with others. And I assume he's comparing him with flashier wrestlers like AJ Styles for example. This kid was negative toward the fact Tye uses clotheslines.....that he used the Sharpshooter.....that he used an inverted atomic drop.....And then proceeded to say that he could have given the fans a much better match with zero training......

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    Does he like Gavin Spears matches?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Does he like Gavin Spears matches?
    lol.

    Probably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Speaking of in-ring ability.....I read a kid's rant on Instagram about Tye Dillinger's match with Bobby Roode at the last Takeover. This kid was shitting on Tye because his moveset was too basic in comparison with others. And I assume he's comparing him with flashier wrestlers like AJ Styles for example. This kid was negative toward the fact Tye uses clotheslines.....that he used the Sharpshooter.....that he used an inverted atomic drop.....And then proceeded to say that he could have given the fans a much better match with zero training......
    Like Bobby Roode's moveset isn't equally as basic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slare View Post
    Was it you ND?
    LOL.

    Naw it was some kid with one of those IG pages that are like "TheWrestlingWorld" or some shit where they just post pictures that other people take of wrestlers and then they rant about something that doesn't relate to the picture.

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    One of the reasons I loved Dillinger/Roode as much as I did was that stripped away nature of the contest itself. No flash, all feel, brilliant.

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    Yeah, I thought it was a perfect opening contest to a pretty loaded show. I loved it also.

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    You know I understood the kid in the sense that I think he was trying to say "for a different era that style would be much better for my eyes". But the truth is, there's zero wrong with Tye's in-ring ability yet there are a lot of fans who have been accustomed to a flashier, high impact style I guess for so long that they probably watch Bret Hart and think "Man this guy is boring!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honey_Badger View Post
    Finn is a top-notch worker. In today's WWE, all you need is to possess a good to above-average in-ring ability. The important parts are the intangibles that Psycho666 noted above - charisma, likability and presence while in the spotlight. Finn possess everything needed to be a major star.
    This, and to be clear, I was not at all disparaging Finn's ring work. In fact, I'm usually more positive about his matches than a solid number of people around these parts(Andy comes to mind). I just think he's had more notable matches in NJPW than he has in NXT. And compared to the average match we consider to be "great" these days, Finn's output tends to fall just below the curve.

    That said, he's a great competitor that I always look forward to seeing perform, and I know the time will come when he starts hammering out some true classics.

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    Finn is great. The matches with Joe weren't spectacular, but Joe's been odd in NXT in that he's putting on great performances but the match layouts have been lacking a bit. He could do with an angle that's a bit more advanced than "going for/defending belt" though.

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    Finn is pretty good - he keeps me watching. He's not particularly believable though in that he doesn't have a lot in the way of high-impact looking moves. His drop kicks are pretty weak sauce, for example. And the sling blade is toss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash Diesel View Post
    Speaking of in-ring ability.....I read a kid's rant on Instagram about Tye Dillinger's match with Bobby Roode at the last Takeover. This kid was shitting on Tye because his moveset was too basic in comparison with others. And I assume he's comparing him with flashier wrestlers like AJ Styles for example. This kid was negative toward the fact Tye uses clotheslines.....that he used the Sharpshooter.....that he used an inverted atomic drop.....And then proceeded to say that he could have given the fans a much better match with zero training......
    Man, these kids are all about them kewl movz these days. Not their fault I guess, Just a product of the times, doesn't help that many younger wrestlers also are all about posturing, posing and kewl movz as well. Not naming anyone in particular..

    Give me Hansen, Gordy, Brody or Vader beating the shit out of someone any day of the week. Yes, the Vadersault was a pretty damn "kewl move".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    This, and to be clear, I was not at all disparaging Finn's ring work. In fact, I'm usually more positive about his matches than a solid number of people around these parts(Andy comes to mind). I just think he's had more notable matches in NJPW than he has in NXT. And compared to the average match we consider to be "great" these days, Finn's output tends to fall just below the curve.

    That said, he's a great competitor that I always look forward to seeing perform, and I know the time will come when he starts hammering out some true classics.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fanny Batter View Post
    Finn is great. The matches with Joe weren't spectacular, but Joe's been odd in NXT in that he's putting on great performances but the match layouts have been lacking a bit. He could do with an angle that's a bit more advanced than "going for/defending belt" though.
    Quote Originally Posted by McBain View Post
    Finn is pretty good - he keeps me watching. He's not particularly believable though in that he doesn't have a lot in the way of high-impact looking moves. His drop kicks are pretty weak sauce, for example. And the sling blade is toss.
    ^ All this. Finn's NXT matches have never impressed me as much as others. They always seems to be missing something. His move set also doesn't do much for me. He clearly has talent, but I don't know if he's adjusted too much to the WWE style. That being said, Finn definitely has something about him that makes him stand out. An aura if you will.



    He connects with fans and has the potential to be a huge star on the main roster. One match that really stands out to me is the one he had with Roman. They had great chemistry considering it was probably the first time they'd ever worked with each other. They could have an awesome feud if Reigns ever turns heel.

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    Would anyone who posts in this thread (or not) be interested in compiling news like this for the main page? Basically things from newspapers, Twitter, Instagram and other social media, official sites or any legit news that breaks.

    I'm sort of in dire need of fresh news writers for the main page but I haven't been happy with any of the submissions I've gotten so I thought I would see if anyone here would be interested...seeing as how I would be much more comfortable letting a forum poster loose on the main page.

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    Did I miss it, or was there any promotion that Cena is the voice of the pistachio elephant? I've seen all the commercials so far, but last night, I was like wait, that sounds a little like Cena. Didn't think about it again until just now when I saw the commercial with the elephant and Fitzgerald in the park. So I googled pistachio elephant voice, and sure enough, it's Cena.

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    I thought that Elephant sounded like Cena.

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    Question for Rajah; is the main page reporter/writer job a paid gig?


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    If it is they are wasting money on the 2 'main reporters' absolute chump stains.

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