I think what a majority of Rebels/Clone Wars fans concern comes with the overall continuity with Star Wars post Disney. They eliminated the EU, and said everything counts from now on. With Kathleen Kennedy in charge, she hasn't mentioned Rebels once. She is a great producer, but she isn't doing a whole lot when it comes to the entire Star Wars canon.
Looks like something "interesting" happened to the Solo posters..
I liked when Luke dusted his shoulder off!
Talk about a cool Star Wars! Not your grandfart's Star War, jerks!
The new solo posters might not stick around long anyways unless they plan to give out some money for "borrowing" a design.
Those have already been removed and replaced with new generic ones, were pretty blatant plagiarism.
These are the new ones, guns removed and all.
Watched Solo last night. It was an ok little action/adventure, not great but ok. It was better and more fun than TLJ but not quite close to Rogue One I felt. Though, Emilia Clarke is always charming to me.
Not really a spoiler but tagged anyway. Don't click and get pissed at me though.
And another somewhat spoiler'y thing..
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Thought it was fine, its easily the worst film of the Disney era. I think we need a sequel to show how Han becomes broken, how does he come to only caring about himself and money. I think the cast did well and liked the cameo. Warick Davis can fuck off now though. 3/5
I read Alden has signed for (potentially) two more Solo films so I guess it could get explained better there.
I'm not opposed to sitting down with these characters again for a few hours. Where do you think this takes place in the time line?
Think it's supposedly roughly 10 BBY, which makes it like 9 years after RotS.
Ah ok, that makes sense. I wasn't too sure where it would place. I really want a war film with Stormtroopers asap.
It was good. Not great, just good. There is one scene that will be hotly debated though. Warwick Davis is great, you fuck off.
Hes not actually and you don’t have to see him on the telly constantly. So yes he can take a run and jump.Originally Posted by lotjx
Boba fett movie has been announced. Hoping to see solo tonight and already had the fucking cameo spoiled for me.
I'm much less hyped to see this than the other movies. I think it's just that it's still so soon after Episode 8, that I'm not ready for another movie yet. I'll see it, but it's not "I NEEDS TO SEE THIS OPENING DAY" for me. Were this out next Christmas, I imagine that I'd be very ready.
I've also had the cameo spoiled for me.
This definitely should have released in December...
A bounty hunter movie in the SW universe?! Could be interesting.
Or may 4th considering it was on a friday
Why not put out 2 Star Wars movies per year if you're printing money
Boba Fet spin off will be good, but who do you guys want to get the next spin off? I would love to see emperor or jaba the hut origins. Jar Jar seems like it probably won't happen but if they want to go for the really young audience it could work.
The brand new trilogy is probably the most exciting tho, the one that will be separate from the skywalker story. if successful, that'll be a great chance for more spin offs
I think the Obi-Wan Kenobi movie is more or less confirmed right?
Solo "spoiler":
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What era would you want it set in though?
Prequel is clones which could be a good war movie as they are capable soldiers and of course the interesting dynamic of how they take steps to make themselves different from each other.
In between prequel and original trilogy could be interesting to see the story of the transition from clones to regular folks aka bumbling stormtroopers.
Original trilogy of terrible shit soldiers.
The rebuilding of the empire/first order phase would be nice as well. Could throw some snoke in there as well to flesh him out some more.
A movie between the OT and current trilogy could be fantastic. Show Snoke rising to power, where the First Order formed from, etc.
The next animated series; "Resistance" will be set between RotJ and TFA. Not the same as a movie, but still, it might explore some interesting stuff.
I wouldn't mind an animated series set between ESB and RotJ since Shadows of the Empire isn't canon anymore, there's a three year gap there I believe. Xizor can fuck off, never liked him.
Mark Hamill and Anthony Daniels are probably up for some voice-over work,
The girl who did Leia's voice in Rebel's sounds perfectly fine to me. James Earl Jones is 87 so I wouldn't count on him.. :/ There are probably quite a few people capable of doing some excellent Dart Vader voice-overs though.
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A Jedi Academy movie should have been done before Episode 8. I am tired of prequels though, so I'm in this weird place of wanting to see the ramifications of Solo, but I want new stories.
I want a film set after the Wars called Star Peace...
That's exactly what my mother wants. Poor woman is still baffled that people die in every movie.
Solo is bombing at the box office
Maybe there are in fact diminishing returns on putting out infinite Star Wars movies of mediocre quality
£83million is bombing now...
actaully $101million...
Well for a $250 million production plus advertising costs world wide...
The prequels weren't great, but at least it felt like Lucas put a lot of thought into them. The last two movies that I saw Rogue One and The Last Jedi felt very generic didn't feel like anything special.
Makes sense Batman vs Superman is considered a flop despite taking in £872million.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottme...lobal-weekend/
Apparently so
I can see some definite Star Wars fatigue along with competition from Deadpool 2 and Infinity War killing this movie. I've also read a lot online about people disappointed in TLJ not going to see Solo in "protest". Rogue One made nearly twice as much ($155 million) domestic on opening weekend to Solo's $83 million.
Its been out for 4 days.
Big movies like this tend to fizzle fast. It'll make it's budget back sure but it's a lot less than the previous installments. I think it will have some impact on future stand alone films in the universe.
No it wont. It was 1 movie. Now after they have 3 or 4...maybe.
do they? I think almost all the recent big budget movies would argue against this point. How long has black panther been hanging about the top 10?
Mike. Interested in what you got to say here.
I like your last idea, especially with the added Snoke element. TBH i would be cool with it set at anytime with no skywalker/jedi connection tbh.
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Disney needs to cut it back. We went from being starved for a Star Wars movie for ten years to getting 4 in 4 years. I thought it was nuts that they are punching out movies for the franchise so fast. Jees Louise.
Besides, we need to all realize that Star Trek is the franchise that we all need to focus on and demand that we get sequels that left off from Nemesis.
I have a feeling that a potential Ewan McGregor/Obi-Wan movie will get people a lot more excited. To the younger fans Ewan is Obi-Wan, probably even more so than Sir Alec Guinness. The young Indiana Jones thing never seems to work out all that well.
Not the shitshow that some reviews are trying to make it out to be. It's got enough in there to keep you entertained for 2 hours, but I don't know how rewatchable it will be in years to come.
This film gives every single line of dialogue that Han Solo says in the original trilogy a back story. Like I have never once wondered why his last name is Solo? Yet this film feels the need to explain that. Also, did we really need a line saying why Han says 'Chewie' instead of 'Chewbacca'?
It's pretty easy to shit on this film, but it had an impossible task in the first place in having to tell one of the most beloved character's backstory.
I didn't have an issue with any of the cast. They all played their parts very well, especially Donald Glover and Paul Bettany.
The Kessel Run is perhaps the highlight of the film.
Exactly it’s absolutely fine. There is nothing particularly amazing and nothing that’s ridiculously bad. It’s a summer blockbuster (well not according to the box office geeks) which quite frankly are 90% of the time average at best.
EDIT: Ha-ha Jay picks up on the two spell it out moments that I did in my review above.
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No more standalone stories for the time being, apparently.
December has become synonymous with Star Wars, so why this came out in May - on the heels of Infinity War and Deadpool 2, is beyond me. We just had a Star Wars movie with the Falcon being chased by TIE Fighters 6 months ago. I don’t think Star Wars has enough variety to follow the model that Marvel has perfected - they have big ensemble movies, they can veer between earthbound and space and they shift tone pretty well to keep things fresh. The style of Ant Man and The Wasp seems like the perfect response to the darkness of Infinity War. Where can these Star Wars movies go when they’re stuck in the past and trapped by canon? This was a chance to change tack and tell a different kind of story, but instead we got the standard formula on a slightly smaller scale. Two Star Wars films in a year is too much, I feel.
Paul Bettany was the best thing in this film. A great performance in which his mood and level of menace changes on a dime. Chewbacca also got some moments to shine. Alden was very likeable and wisely found his own take on Han instead of trying to replicate Ford’s acting precisely. But overall Solo was just inessential. It was more fun than I expected and just about hangs together despite all the upheaval in production. When the trailer came out for Rogue One, it felt like a big deal. It tapped into the nostalgia with a very focused story; while the characters aren't anything to write home about, the third act is brilliant in terms of wall-to-wall action. But I can't think of a moment from Solo that really stayed with me. They clearly leave things open for a sequel, yet they cram in as many references and points of history as possible. Giving a backstory to his name is just daft to me.
Now if we could only get them to put 2 or 3 years between the main episodes, we'd really be cooking. Make Star Wars movies great again.
I think The Adventures of Han Solo would have been a good mini-series to run on t.v. I don't know what channel, definitely not Disney, maybe SyFy but I don't know how that would even work. But in reality, and I've yet to see this movie but to me it looks fucking sweet, we didn't need a Han Solo movie. You know why? The same reason nobody would have gone to see Shia Lebouf as the new Indiana Jones without Harrison Ford. Iconic characters linked to iconic actors can't be fucked with very often and wind up positive.
You watch what happens when someone tries to be the next Wolverine. Harrison Ford IS Han Solo. So as a mark for the movies and that particular character, I've already lowered my expectations to a Episode 1 level lol, because you can't play Harrison Ford. You just can't. And that's what this movie based on the previews is feeling like, someone playing Harrison Ford instead of Han Solo.
I was reading somewhere that the planned trilogy following number 9 may be in doubt too.
Think it was a matter of too much too soon. Episode VII people wanted to see for the nostalgia factor. Rogue One people wanted to see because of the curiousness of a stand alone film. Episode VIII made less than VII, and now Solo made less than Rogue One. I think the interest and nostalgia is wearing off on Star Wars.
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I disagree with that last part 110%. How can you look at a franchise that has been consistently in the mainstream for over 40 years and think that it's "wearing off"? I mean, Return of the Jedi made less than Empire Strikes Back but Empire made more than A New Hope.
Keep this in mind, yes, Episode 7 made like 2 billion, Episode 8 made 1 billion lol. That's almost double what every other Star Wars movie has made on their own. You don't exactly see very many movies make the 1 billion mark.
I agree with the concept that maybe they got a little too greedy, shelling out 4 Star Wars movies in what, 3 years?
Trust me, nobody is butthurt over at Disney that Episode 8 only made a measly 1+billion at the box office.
I have my complaints about how the Star Wars franchise has been rebooted and pimped out, but my god these #RemakeTheLastJedi losers are the worst.
I agree with this. I loved the character reveal though. Loved him in rebels and clone wars.
https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Culture/multiple-films-star-wars-pipeline-sources/story?id=56057987
Lucasfilm sources on Thursday characterized as "inaccurate" a report that future "Star Wars" movies falling outside of the regular trilogy storyline (Episodes I to IX) have been put on hold in the wake of the box office under-performance of "Solo: A Star Wars Story."
Instead, Lucasfilm told ABC News there are still "multiple" Star Wars films currently in development that have not been officially announced. Those projects are moving forward separate from an already-announced "Star Wars" trilogy being overseen by "The Last Jedi" director Rian Johnson and another series of movies from "Game of Thrones" producers David Benioff and D.B. Weiss.
Kennedy and Johnson should both be fired.
Its too late for that. Even if they did with this day and age whoever they picked would be under major scrutiny no matter who they chose because people would find one reason to bitch about it or another. They cant win now on amything.
I havent had any issues with any of the movies with solo being the one i was most worried about but it was ok. The big reveal at the end really makes me want a sequel.
If they want to fucking roll in the cash make a god damn vader trilogy.
They did that already, it was the prequels.
I just checked vies how much Solo has made worldwide, less than $400m, that’s shocking. It’s hard to tell what went so wrong there. It isn’t a great film but it’s no less mediocre than some of the marvel films and a LOT better than some of those awful DC films and they are still pulling in $800m+. There is no way that they would’ve expected less than $600m from Solo, I don’t think anyone would’ve expected less than that and it’s not anywhere near to that. It’s an absolute disaster.
Star Wars fatigue, being so close to the last movie, being so close to Deadpool and the Avengers and Solo not being a spin-off many seem to have ever actually wanted could be some of the reasons for the miserable box office.
I saw lots of reports of people boycotting Solo in response to that turd Rian Johnson squeezed out and I also read that the core SW fan is getting fed up with Kathleen Kennedy's political agenda/identity politics and their childhood heroes being treated like bums.
I have a strong dislike for TLJ but I still watched Solo. It wasn't anything special but still some good ol swashbuckling fun.
No, it's not. Ruining The Last Jedi is what went so wrong.
TLJ might well have put off a lot of the proper Star Wars fans and the blockbuster fatigue can explain SOME of that, but not all of it.
The reality is that the casual cinemagoer makes up the vast majority of cinema box office. The Last Jedi made $1.3b. The reviews for Solo were not THAT bad.
For reference Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom is a worse reviewed film, is off the heels of a worse reviewed prequel, came out after Solo and is sitting on $525m from a month less of a release.
Thats because china really loves dinosaurs and doesnt care for star wars.
That accounts for $150m, where's the other $200m gone? Solo has actually made more in the US than Jurassic Park.
The international market has been AWFUL for Solo, there simply must have been a major fuck up in the marketing for it, the casting was a bit naive too. No real bankable stars (Emilia Clarke is much better known as Khaleesi than by her own name). It worked for Rogue One because it was a novelty.
I just put on Phantom menace for my kids for the 1st time and we are about 10 minutes in and it's already significantly better than I remember it. No jar jar binks yet thoough.
At a younger age, I used to think that the action scenes in Attack of the Clones - the speeder chase through Coruscant, the asteroid field, seeing an army of Jedi kicking ass - elevated it above The Phantom Menace. But Hayden's wooden acting and the dreadful dialogue really weigh it down. In Lucas's mind, there's a mystery surrounding Count Dooku's allegiance despite the fact that he is introduced very late on, rebuffs Obi-Wan's accusations for about 30 seconds and then immediately reveals that he is in fact a bad guy (as all the marketing had already revealed). TPM is a more straightforward story and Liam Neeson does his best with the material he's given.
Though the balcony scene between Anakin and Padme in Revenge of the Sith remains the most cringeworthy and hilarious scene of the prequels.
Does SW have the same cultural sway anymore with non-hardcores that it once did?
As a casual observer of both of those franchises I believe that a Jurassic anything just seems much more easily accessible than anything Star Wars.
I got mad love for TPM. It's my favorite movie to watch trippin. It's just so beautiful.
China is not a big fan of their people seeing rebellion from a small young group against an evil Empire. Giant robots and monsters are fine.
I have no idea why Star Wars never caught on in China...
I'm missing the reference. Mao?
China didn't grow up on the original Star Wars, so their first Star Wars experience was the terrible prequels with the Chinese stereotype alien villains...
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Yeah I think the casual audience didn't really care about Solo. New chapter in a 40 year old cultural phenomenon, yep alright let's give it a look. Side quest set in the past, eh I'll wait for Netflix.
Gotcha.
This reminds me it's a travesty there's been 11 X-Men universe films with two more on the way and not one of those movies has been X-Men vs. Dinosaurs...
The lack of "superheroes vs. dinosaurs" when the source material is sitting on your lap is a failure of Hollywood...
I mean, Dark Phoenix again?
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Hey, we still have that 2-part X-Men cartoon episode from the 90's that no live action version would do justice.This reminds me it's a travesty there's been 11 X-Men universe films with two more on the way and not one of those movies has been X-Men vs. Dinosaurs...
The lack of "superheroes vs. dinosaurs" when the source material is sitting on your lap is a failure of Hollywood...
I mean, Dark Phoenix again?
I can't deny that I wouldn't mind seeing a Star Wars-Marvel crossover movie. I mean they used to do the comics didn't they? Why not? Maybe once upon a time they bumped into Galactus, the OG Death Star.
Star Wars will be okay. They should've chose Howard to direct from the onset and gotten Bale as Beckett to help Alden's Han better develop. Woody doesn’t cut it in the film. They should've pushed the movie back to December release. Instead of name dropping Bossk the movie should've featured Bossk and him and Chewie fighting same with Aurra Sing. Beckett could've killed her on film and build that character since he's a nobody other than Han scriptwise cares about. They should've also had an antagonist which Nest never was, and it fell flat since Vos wasn’t much of antagonist either they're all antagonists on a heist and double-crossing each other... There wasn't marketing until about seven weeks before Solo, but we were getting all these announcements instead, in addition to headlines and tweets on TLJ controversies. Give the public a bit of a rest. With IX still being 1 1/2 years away there’s time to get a break from the constant news about the movies. Since TFA there hasn't really been any sort of break. Even before that movie fully left theaters, Rogue One saw its teaser getting released, and it has continued that way since then. Now there could be a bit of a break until the teaser hits at Celebration next year. Lucasfilm’s biggest takeaway from Solo’s performance might very well be that audiences aren’t interested in spin-off films based on characters and rather that they’re more interested in films that are part of a larger story, a la the trilogies.
This is the exact kinda crap that the general movie going public couldn't care less about and actaully make the film more complicated having to explain and introduce these characters and backstories in one film. These things are name dropped in to appease the minority as wee easter eggs.
Woody Harrelson and Paul Bettany are easily the best things in this film.
I still cannot fathom why anyone wouldn't like TLJ, I have watched it 3 times and its really bloody excellent. Yes theres some daft humour and the casino bit/Finn storyline isnt perfect but its extremely solid and great fun.
Everything about Rose, Leia turning into Mary Poppins, Snoke dying, and the suicide attack. There's a start for ya.
Snoke dying was amazing. A true wtf moment.
It was like a mirror of Return of the Jedi, only instead of redeeming himself like Vader, Kylo Ren doubles down on being awful...
Rey runs off and leaves Luke and thinks she's going to save his soul like her hero did Vader, and oh how wrong she was...
Leia flying proved that Luke trained her. Not shocked DVDA hates Rose.
Bill don't be silly. People won't go see movies about dinosaurs.This reminds me it's a travesty there's been 11 X-Men universe films with two more on the way and not one of those movies has been X-Men vs. Dinosaurs...
The lack of "superheroes vs. dinosaurs" when the source material is sitting on your lap is a failure of Hollywood...
I mean, Dark Phoenix again?
I wouldn't shock me to see Legion or Gifted deal with it. Gifted especially since they need to add a bit of fun to the show.
Everything about Rose - there was nothing that bad about this and gave finn something to do.
Leia turning into Mary Poppins - clearly showing she is force sensitive and how powerful she is.
Snoke dying - best part of the movie.
The suicide attack - 2nd best part of the movie, best shot by an absolute country mile.
If you didn't like those things then it's time for you to check out of the series permanently.
I've enjoyed TFA, Rogue One and Solo to varying degrees, TLJ not so much. I'm cautious about episode IX but look forward to the Obi-Wan/Boba Fett standalones. Wouldn't hate Solo II down the line either.
Nah, Kennedy will be out the door soon and so will the SJW trash.
Ok
Going to give TLJ another shot this weekend since it's coming to Netflix. Hopefully I like it more the second time than I did the first time.
"Fans" like DVDA are why people hate Star Wars fans right now
I didn't realize there was legit talk about getting rid of her. If reports are true its looking like this is going to happen. David Filoni would he my first choice. JJ already turned it down.
I think they should make it the head of the KKK and pro life organisations, just so we can make sure it's extremely well balanced.
I can see why people don't like Rose. I think the Finn storyline was the worst and since people loved Finn in the first movie, the difference now is Rose so a lot of the hate gets put onto her.
Granted the final movie could make that story line mean more, but for now I didn't even feel like it was a great set-up for the future.
Last edited by Pablo Diablo; June 26th, 2018 at 10:33 PM.
I didn't like that arc much. However I also understand that movies aren't made to cater to my individual whims and tastes.
And here is the exact issue most people had with TLJ.
"It isn't how I wanted it to be therefore rubbish" or "It isn't exactly like the old ones so its rubbish"
I have yet to see someone who didnt like it for a proper reason other than Rey should have been someone or Snoke should have been this.
Such short sited stupidity, they need to expand the story out of the Skywalker, Force, Dark and Light to keep it fresh. Surely no one wants to see episode 22 where Lukes great grandson is fighting another masked foe.
I wasn't honestly expecting anything in particular from this movie and didn't mind Snoke getting chopped at all. As for Rey I would actually like if it indeed turns out true she isn't anyone "special", just like I was happy Jyn Erso wasn't, like everyone speculated at the time. Wouldn't shock me if JJ retcons that in IX though because of the fan reaction, pretty easy to just say Kylo lied cause he's a nasty sneak.
Just felt it was an overall bad movie. That didn't mean I was going to boycott Solo or isn't looking forward to Boba Fett, Obi-Wan etc.
But the thing is I don't think anyone liked that arc. Yes not everything in a movie has to be to my own individual whims, but when almost everybody finds it to be a bad part then maybe it's just a bad arc.
That's my point, I didn't enjoy it because I went in expecting some fan-fiction fantasy to come true, I truly wasn't expecting anything in particular from this movie, except maaybe Luke Skywalker not being a creepy, gimp squeezing blue milk out of sea cows with eight tits or whatever it was.. It was just an overall poor movie to me, didn't enjoy the pacing, the plot(s), the characters etc. For people that loved it, good for them.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I went in expecting a movie that would hold my attention and TLJ just didn't do that. At the end I sort of shrugged my shoulders when my wife asked if I liked it. It's not because the lead actors are a black man and a white woman or whatever else people were crying about. The weekend before I'd watched TFA and Rogue One and thought both were great so I was expecting a movie on par with those and TLJ didn't deliver, in my opinion. But I'll watch Solo when that comes to Netflix and I'll watch Episode IX.
And I'm going to try to watch TFA again this weekend as some of you have said it's better the second time around.
Fans like me normally go see SW movies multiple times. SJWs don't. They don't really care about SW at all. The damage has been done though.
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