My friend tried to spoil the end for me and made a comment that has me concerned. I did tell him about the multiple endings, but he brushed it off. I do wonder with the fan backlash that they may change something on Sunday. Not the real ending, but add something that may be hopeful.
Chicken dinner.Originally Posted by GOLDBERG'S BEST FRIEND
So I've been spoiled. Assuming the new leak is accurate(its from the leaker who has accurately leaked most of the season), I will be satisfied with the end.
I dont know. I dont see a scenario where I would be unsatisfied. Way too many people are hinging their judgement of the entire series(and their personal well being) on the events of the finale.
Any scope for Arya to take the face of Daenerys, so that her tons of followers won’t revolt against the real King? Can’t bloody wait for this.
Really looking forward to this, I’ve seen two sets of totally different spoilers (thanks to my now disinherited eldest daughter) one was ok, the other sounds like it could be excellent.
My only hope is we check in with the Northern lot again, the investment we have in the characters warrants a ‘where are they now’ type finish.
Been thinking about shutting the power off to all my electronic devices, sitting in a closet with noise cancelling headphones on until this comes on. Gonna be a dangerous day on the internet.
It’s killing me because I’ve been sent them, glanced and thought NO!
Now I’m struggling with rapidly depleting willpower!
ok lets just stop even discussing spoilers plz thnx
looking forward to seeing the rightful Queen get crowned tonight and begin a new reign of Targaryen rule
Fro cheers the heels because he is edgy.
Massive Thunderstorms here. Hoping for power to stay on til the end.
Despite my gripes with this season, it's the end of one of the best shows of my life. I'm hoping for a good ride. Enjoy all.
Yeah...that was pretty good.
Yeah I'm pretty satisfied with that.
(Insert and so my watch has ended unfunny joke)
I enjoyed it. I'll post more later but a word about my own experience with spoilers:
For the series finale of an all time great show it certainly didn’t feel like it delivered. It somehow managed to be kind of boring. And extremely anti-climactic.
worst episode of the whole series
Could it somehow be even worse than the Dexter finale?
every episode this season was dumb but none of them were this boring.
With the way people overreact to everything these days I’m sure there will be lots of comments about it being the worst finale ever. It wasn’t that bad but it certainly felt like one of the more disappointing ones.
Boring would not be how I’d describe this episode.
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The King of Queens finale was easily worse
That’s fine. We can all have our opinions but yours will probably end up in the minority.
I think most people will agree GOT finale > King of Queens finale.
bronn as master of coin lol ... what an incredibly who gives a shit fan service ending. they didn't even try.
Satisfying conclusion.
Seinfeld finale completely ruined the series for me - I recall mostly enjoying it until the ending, where they stressed how friggin annoyingly whiny they all were.
I certainly give you this one. Not only do I think making this dishonorable sellsword master of coins is really dumb, but he also ruined this scene with his smarmy responses talking over everyone (further proving why he shouldn’t be in this position). He loves money so he’s master of coin? Dumb. He’s a good fighter not a damn accountant. He will for sure embezzle the crown’s money.
The rest of choices for who was on the council were all spot on.
I am not saying it was the worst ever. I said people will overreact and say it was. I was saying you might be in the minority saying that you thought it wasn’t boring. A lot will hate it a lot will like it.
There are going to be lots of Seinfeld/Dexter/Lost comparisons with this finale.
QUEEN
This is by far the most visually stunning television show ever made
An absolutely brilliant finale.
Spoilers, just in case:
This. I have nothing else notable to say. Excellent job summing up the best show ever made.
Regarding the leaks
Very unsatisfying and anticlimactic finale. Boring and ridiculous end to an amazing show. Just disappointed.
I think it was a bit of a mess to get to where they wanted to be. The end result is fine (not great), but the way they got there was a shitshow. Just a few irks of mine.
On the bright side, visually it was a masterpiece.
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Disappointing end. Why did they have to rush all of this, could easily have done another series and it would behave been fine.
HBO had to beg D&D to go this far. They wanted to wrap it up in the 7th season.
HBO should have fired them and got new writers
I'll tell you one thing. Im probably out on their next show. They seem to lose interest in what their doing quickly.
Tbf, it could have wrapped in season 7. So, this bullshit about rushing of this season makes no season to me.
My guess would be that GRRM told them how it ends, but not how it gets there. So they just had the major details to deal with. ie Dany turns mad, Jon has to kill her, Bran becomes King, Arya goes on a jaunt, Sansa is Queen of the North, Jon takes the black, goes beyond the wall and becomes one of the free folk. All individual components I’m happy enough with, the journey to get there just wasn’t satisfying because it was D&D’s journey, not GRRM’s. Fortunately the end of the series doesn’t put me off reading the books. Problem is, GRRM will never finish the fucking books.
I was worried about this, but it turned out....ok. I was caught off guard by how quiet it was. I expected a tragic and bloody ending for lots of characters but most of them were reflective and agreeable to how events turned out. I think it would have worked better if last week’s episode and this week had been combined into one. Similar to how Battlestar Galactica’s finale had a ton of bombastic action in the first two thirds and then a bittersweet mood for how the main characters ended up.
Ridiculous that they are just continuing on with the Night’s Watch anyway. The free folk are friends now and the white walkers are vanquished.
Also, it makes absolutely no sense to me, if they knew that Bran was going to end up on the throne, why have they been largely marginalising him for the last few seasons?
im convinced they did not have this ending in mind while writing the previous two seasons.
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bronn is the fucking master of coin ... not a lot of thought when into this finale.
i definitely don't believe cersi killing off basically every single significant figure in westeros and totally annihilating the entire theme of feudal politics from the show was something martin had in mind.
Yup, "whose story is more interesting than Bran", who was cut out of an entire season.
Liked it up until the jump forwards to the meeting, then there's just too many weak and questionable moments to really like it. Don't hate many of the individual outcomes but the route there feels so jarring in comparison to earlier seasons that I just felt kinda flat about it.
They're doing Star Wars next, so they're Disney's problem now.
when tyrion started talking about great stories i actually thought he might be leading toward gendry. would have salvaged this dumpster fire of an episode at least a little bit.
BRIENNE gets a vote on who is going to be king of westeros, because, uh, who gives a fuck, thats why
Well she was presumably representing Tarth. Also, she didn’t really get a vote, she just agreed. She is quite an important person considering those that are left.
Anyway, there were plenty of flights of fancy. The long and short is that it’s been one of the best tv series I’ve ever followed. It couldn’t fully stick the landing in its last 20%, but there are very few shows that maintained its quality for as long as it did. It’s got a lot wrong over the years, but a lot right too.
I'm still not close to season 8 yet. I guess I'm just hoping for a well shot spectacle at this point. My expectations have been sufficiently lowered by the less than stellar reactions to the writing.
They should of just added 3 episodes to season 7 (battle of winterfell, Dany destroying Kings landing and this bull shit of a finale) and been done with it. I’m not gonna say this was the worst series finale ever... only because I haven’t seen every series finale ever.
That's how I viewed it.
Bran could be a brilliant build in the books with him using his Dr. Strange powers to see possible futures and manipulating the world towards him on the throne. If not for him, Jon and Dany would never have known his parentage and they probably take over in a much more stable run than burning a city.
It's not the worst finale ever. It is probably one of the most drastic drop offs for a final season, aside from cases where a show switched networks/crews for a final year. It still had epic moments in the final season and I can't wait to read them and see how they should have played out.
You are right, Dexter was worse.
I still don't get the bitching.
I’ll help you you to understand a little, the Stark with the least interesting story and character ends up as the King by a rule created in 30 seconds that ignores everything Arya, Sansa and Jon went through.
I get the bitching because I have a laundry list of things I'd have liked to see improved with the writing over the past 2-3 seasons. I still enjoyed the hell out of it all but I can understand why some negative nancy type people would be so overwhelmed by the writing flaws that they couldn't enjoy the product at all because they feel viscerally offended that it didn't maintain its quality as the story converged to a close. At its peak it was one of the best shows ever made. In the last few seasons it wasn't that.
Haha.
Somebody didn't watch the credits all the way through to the end when it turns out Dany is alive and a lumberjack now.
Regardless of the drop in quality of storytelling, character development and writing, the last couple of seasons are still strong compared to so much else out there. It suffers from Godfather part 3 syndrome where it suffers more due to the comparison of what came before. In spite of that though, the quality of production and sheer scope of ambition dwarfs pretty much any other television programme ever made, including the last season. It was cinema.
Which is why Sansa rules in the North and Jon the ‘real’ North.
Rally enjoyed it. Not perfect, but a satisfying ending. No other show has had so much scrutiny as this show ever. Beautiful to watch.
I thought was Bronn was awarded all Tyrell assets and lands along with Highgarden. That would make him one of the richest people in existence, someone not bad to have as Master of Coin in you need to borrow a bob or two.
The decision to shorten the final two seasons did harm the quality of the show, but we're talking taking something from exceptional to merely great.
In that time it still managed to give us the jaw dropping attack on the Lannister caravan, and two of the best events in television history. The Bells will be looked at far more kindly once the indignation at Dany actually being true to the character built up over 10 years is dropped, but The Long Night is unlike anything I've ever seen. The tension, from start to finish, unfathomable.
Thought the finale was, well, clunky. If anything, too content of an ending. Despite that, there were some lovely touches running through it. I might be the only person alive to think Cersei's death was perfect, but Tyrion finding them there and weeping was powerful. The destruction of the Iron Throne looked incredible. Brienne's summation of Jaime, right to the final sentence, rang so true for her character.
The political discussions were rushed, the fleshing out of the new order to hastily done. The goodbyes for the Three Starks were quite strikingly underwhelming.
But, for something which has to tie up so many loose ends, keep so many character true and please a very demanding audience, I thought it did fine.
Bronn being master of coin made the most amount of sense. The dude is a shrewd negotiator, so I'm fine with that. Honestly, Tyrion justification for Bran made sense. Jon being King would have lead to war. Sansa just cares about the North. Arya has no desire for it. Tyrion didn't want it either. Davos would have been a good choice, but the story aspect made sense. Plus the whole magical powers including possibly contacting/controlling a dragon. Brie should have a vote, because her house is a major house
I wonder how people will react when they realize their new king won't ever die. No need to worry about succession when you live thousands of years…
Bran can die, I think he will retire after a time to go back to the woods.
What a shite last episode. I can't wait til these guys ruin Star Wars.
The same people who are whinging over TLJ are probably the same people whinging over GOT. The level of nerd rage is almost identical in both instances. So I'm not sure how they would ruin it. It's not like The Force Awakens was more than a shallow reboot with rudimentary writing.
I'm not a Star Wars mark FYI. I have only ever seen episodes 1, 2 and 4. I'm not even that much into GoT or fantasy/Sci Fi in general. Just calling it as I see, as soon as they ran out of source material this show suffered a very noticeable drop in standards. I genuinely can't wait to see the Star Wars fans' reaction once they take the reins.
He is not immortal but he also doesn't age, does he? I thought the previous three-eyed raven had been around for thousands of years (TV, not books)
I think the tree location had a bit to do with it, I thought.
I would agree.... being in that heart tree or whatever it was called, that was what kept him alive so long.
Bran could live long too, getting life from the weirwood tree in the King's Woods perhaps, or eventually giving up his crown and relocating to the Isle of Faces to live the full on tree life, but I wouldn't expect it to be 1000 years. Maybe it would depend on how long it takes the next 3-eyed raven to be born.
What was that bollocks with the horse last week?
Looked good don't it.
The bells could have been amazing had they built up some more tension between Dany and Cersei. How many scenes did they have together?
I adore what they did with Cersei in The Bells. It looked a bit odd early in the episode that they were obviously trying elicit sympathy for such a hate filled character, but it gave the ascendance of Daenerys as the character to despise good support. Our hatred for Cersei lessened as her world crumbled and she was alone and afraid. All the while our anger with Daenerys rises as we know it's her who is causing the needless destruction. Jaime acts as another dampener, reuniting as their about to die and the death was the best thing about it. Our anger dulled, possibly sympatehtic, we also never got a cathartic and celebratory death. That need remained and someone was there to take up than mantle immediately, Queen to Queen.
I missed that part I guess but it certainly makes sense.
I don’t think it was ever stated but we can infer.
I'm enjoying the backlash towards the haters of the finale.
And who is this backlash coming from?
It was shite. But you've got to laugh. Why would you get angry? The show gave us 8 good years (maybe excluding Season 5). Who cares that they fucked it up at the final hurdle? People will move onto the next thing soon enough. Just think in 2 months we can all be disappointed with Season 3 of Stranger Things.
read an article about how they almost let jorah survive the long night, with the plan being him being at the wall with jon and tormund for the finale, but that they couldnt 'logic it.' this got me to thinking how great it would've been if jorah was the one to kill dany after she went mad queen. a lot of the issues of her and jon's stunted and mostly implied love for one another would have been cleared up and been absolutely heartbreaking to watch. a finale that had an imprisoned tyrion convince jon that dany needed to go, with jorah playing out the conflicted angle, and in the end jon cant push himself to kill her but jorah does, would've landed a lot better, i think.
It makes for an interesting idea, but Jorah dying lead to part of her Maddness. Just Miss Sunday and her Dragon dying would not be enough. She had to lose everything to go that far.
even with jorah dying it wasn't a particularly thrilling turn to madness. i'd much rather her death be a hard as hell impact at the expense of using him to build the turn, cause what we got instead was a bit of a lackluster execution on both. jon denying her genuine love also helped lead her astray, as well as the people being very quick to like and praise jon, coupled with the knowledge of his true birthname. not everything that contributed has to be people dying.
its totally inconceivable that a scene like this could have happened in the last two seasons.
Honestly, some shows go multiple seasons or even their entire run without a scene like that.
Without it, it would have been worse. Honestly, Jorah would have agreed with Tyrion about the bells and made Tyrion's pleading and her cold reaction to it less. I love Jorah, but he went down protecting Danny. That is the best way for him to go.
jorah agreeing with tyrion wouldn't have done shit. everybody agreed with tyrion and it had zero effect on her. you can replace jorah dying with something else. have daario show up with the golden company as a jilted former lover and devotee, convinced by euron that dany's forces have been decimated thanks to joining a fight in the north against the undead and cersei with the golden company will keep the throne. daario, against his nature, put himself out there for dany and was flatly rejected and told to stay behind on clean-up duty because of politics, and now it might not have amounted to anything. have him and the second sons agree to a price to join as sellswords for the lannister forces, leaving meereen to fend for itself during transition and fall back into chaos. dany being betrayed by another close confidant and seeing the things she fought for back in essos shattered would be another great psychological bolt that isn't just 'oh, someone died.' it's got layers.
I'm late to the party but my wife and I just got HBO Now and have started GoT. Season 1 was pretty dam good. Excited to see where this goes. My friend Josh has been pushing this show on me for years and I finally have access to it.
I avoided the final season like a champ, no clue how I pulled it off. I was without HBO for a few years so I had to bang out Season 5-8 these last couple weeks.
Still one of my favorite shows of all time. I have to agree I wasn't high on the last 2 seasons not having as many episodes but they were still 90 minutes or more so that makes up for it.
I know there are all these people who are crying about how bad the finale was, it happens with every show. And I imagine most people are just parakeeting. Going in I was thinking, fuck they're going to kill off a good chunk of the top tier: Jon Snow, Arya, Tyrion, Dany, maybe Bran. The positive vibe it ended with I couldn't have been happier. The fact Tyrion isn't mentioned in the book at the end was kind of funny, he seemed so deflated lol.
Correct me if I'm wrong, there is going to be a prequel series or is that just fan talk? Either way, being someone who never read the books I thought this was arguably the best show on premium cable since Oz. I never saw The Wire, and Shameless is pretty dope but not this dope.
Think prequel has been cast and will be recording in Northern Ireland
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