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    Oh my god. Surely not.

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    Thank you Villa, always loved you. xoxox

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    That Grealish goal was phonemenal. Watch it.

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    Give us Grealish you shit.

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    I've said before - if we don't go up, he'll leave and with our very best of good will.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYr4lww-YZI

    He received the ball with eight men in front of him. Mentally good. It's his time now. I hope he owns the playoffs.

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    Can you please just stop being difficult and let us have him?

    His feet are unreal. The way he moves the ball onto the winger is mad, then the way he skips past a defender on the edge of the box. He just makes it look so easy and natural.

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    I look forward to posting in this thread again next season

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rosk View Post
    I've said before - if we don't go up, he'll leave and with our very best of good will.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYr4lww-YZI

    He received the ball with eight men in front of him. Mentally good. It's his time now. I hope he owns the playoffs.
    Christ that is ludicrous

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    Villa have won eight in a row for the first time since 1975. Pretty unbelievable stuff we are playing right now. We have a real chance of beating anyone in the playoffs if this confidence continues. Mind you, I said that last year...

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    Yes Waghorn you shit bastard!

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    Good stuff today and now its in our hands, Nothing would make me happier to keep shitty Boro and Pulis out of 6th especially after it emerged this week that after their chairmans moaning about Our, Sheff Wed and Villa finances our chairman offered him a private viewing of our books but he declined

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    Absolutely astounded. We are Premier League!

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    Congrats @TraXX. You absolutely deserved it

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    Still can't believe it. Ridiculous season for us. We've only lost 6 games in the league, 3 of them in August!

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    Two teams promoted and zero pitch invasions, so I won't be recognising either.

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    Good for you.

    It was our final home game of the season and we were instructed not to invade the pitch so the squad and staff could do a lap. It's called respect.

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    Sounds like a 16th placed finish.

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    The next season of Sunderland Til I Die is going to be stellar.

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    'Spygate' and the fact it's Leeds aside, Got to give it to Bielsa there, Pontas can fuck off though

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    This whole thing is bollocks.

    Absolutely nothing wrong with that goal, the onus is on the referee to stop the game for an injury. It’s not even a consistent fair play action. If any player stops playing before the referee has blown their whistle, they are the ones at fault.

    Bielsa is a crafty old devil. Literally nothing at stake, he can afford to play the hero. Think he does that half way through the season?

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    Villa had kicked it out for Forshaw not long before, and Leeds gestured as though they were kicking out.

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    Oh fuck off JP.

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    Not sure how I feel about potentially playing Leeds in the play-offs. On the one hand beating them would be beautiful, On the other them knocking us out would make me ill.

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    Bah, humbug!

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    I dont care about losind at Wembley but please please let us best Leeds. Last minute winner and Frank boots bielsas bucket into hyperspace

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    Quote Originally Posted by son_of_foley View Post
    Ohh maybe I'm under-estimating Sheffield United
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    I think they are limited and won't make the playoffs
    Did not age well lads

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    I'd be fuming if we gave a free goal after conceding that. Play to the whistle!

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    I agree about that, particularly in the Championship where time wasting is so bad. The issue for me is that Roberts stopped the game to kick it out and then played on when the Villa players had stopped. So Bielsa did the right thing.

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    I definitely under-estimated Sheffield United. I didn't quite understand how dynamic their system is with the centre-backs. They are a lot of fun to watch when it works. I don't think they get enough credit for that and hope they can keep it up next year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    I agree about that, particularly in the Championship where time wasting is so bad. The issue for me is that Roberts stopped the game to kick it out and then played on when the Villa players had stopped. So Bielsa did the right thing.
    Totally I think that's the issue for me to is that he stopped then played the ball. I know that everyone is meant to play to the whistle etc but weirdly I think sometimes stopping forces the other teams hand to put the ball out so understand why it happens. If they start tracking runs they are playing on as well so Leeds are liable to play on.

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    It's kind of amazing that barring Tony Pullis pipping us to the last spot the top 6 is fairly devoid of shit housery football

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    El Ghazi red rescinded and Bamford charged over the incident

    Does this mean the shithouse will miss the semis against us should we make it?

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    First leg I think all being well. I think it's also possible for us to finish 6th and West Brom to get 3rd by beating us at weekend

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    That's bloody highly unlikely mate.

    Leeds playing Ipswich away who are gash, West Brom playing Derby needing to get a result if you don't turn the Swans over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Griffin View Post
    El Ghazi red rescinded and Bamford charged over the incident
    Is that the first time that has happened, where not only was the ban overturned but the 'victim' gets punished instead? Great stuff anyway.

    - - - Updated - - -

    I still really want Leeds to go up because they're a proper fucking team and Bielsa is brilliant, but if not I'd be happy enough with VIlla or Derby. Please not fucking West Brom or Boro. Please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rosk View Post
    That's bloody highly unlikely mate.

    Leeds playing Ipswich away who are gash, West Brom playing Derby needing to get a result if you don't turn the Swans over.
    I know but apparently they are shitting themselves at prospect of playing you so hopes they would rest people looking unlikely

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    Is that the first time that has happened, where not only was the ban overturned but the 'victim' gets punished instead? Great stuff anyway.
    That's a good question, I can't think of another example. Anyone?

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    What an absolute shit show Bolton is.

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    We could be champions. It's still surreal to me.

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    Stick that up your bollocks Pulis you whinging dinosaur prick.

    ££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££

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    Out in the playoffs again would be fucking GREAT

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    What an absolute clown Gayle was there.

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    It's about time to unfreeze Ikechi Anya for his annual playoff appearance

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    I hate the playoffs.

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    Not impressed with Roofe not walking and still not sure on the pen, All to do now. Ah well I've always fancied a trip to Luton.

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    Why?

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    I meant Klich for the headbut fuck knows why I said Roofe

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    Michael Brown. Shit player, Shit pundit.

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    Sky sports already creaming their knickers at the prospect of Villa/Leeds #Ratings #BigClubs

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    Biggest game they could have in fairness. Both are huge clubs, biggest in the division.

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    What do you know tinpot gunner boy.

    What Im saying is maybe wait until 2nd legs finished, Fair enough I think.

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    Where are you seeing all this Peter.

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    In his mental head.

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    Unnecessary.

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    We were out fought and out thought again.

    Dissapointed. I don't think the penalty should have been over-turned. The replays I saw did seem to show bogle getting kicked it probably would have been soft though and not entirely deserved.

    Huddlestone with the forearm smash was a bit stupid too.

    Think we should go young and pacey tbh. Stretch the pitch. Nugent can't do that anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Griffin View Post
    What do you know tinpot gunner boy.

    What Im saying is maybe wait until 2nd legs finished, Fair enough I think.
    I know that they are the two biggest clubs in the division. What a bizarre thing to get offended about.

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    Nottingham Forest are the biggest club in the division, bigger than Arsenal too

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    Ok Alex me and you are done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    Nottingham Forest are the biggest club in the division, bigger than Arsenal too
    Lol. And yes I know they won the European cup. It isn't the only measure.

    Teams in terms of size imo

    1) Man United
    2) Liverpool
    3) Arsenal
    4) Spurs
    5) Everton
    6) Aston Villa
    7) Leeds
    8) Forest
    9) Newcastle
    10) Sheffield Wednesday

    Discuss

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    Your list is arbitrary and weird. Club size is more fluid than anyone cares to admit. Imagine thinking most of these clubs are bigger than Chelsea or City right now I bet you couldn't even more than half the forest team for fucks sake probably for the last decade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romford Pele View Post
    Lol. And yes I know they won the European cup. It isn't the only measure.

    Teams in terms of size imo

    1) Man United
    2) Liverpool
    3) Arsenal
    4) Spurs
    5) Everton
    6) Aston Villa
    7) Leeds
    8) Forest
    9) Newcastle
    10) Sheffield Wednesday

    Discuss
    Everton?! Forest?! Wednesday?!

    Discuss.

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    West Brom have been so negative since brunt went off it's mad

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    Quote Originally Posted by son_of_foley View Post
    Your list is arbitrary and weird. Club size is more fluid than anyone cares to admit. Imagine thinking most of these clubs are bigger than Chelsea or City right now I bet you couldn't even more than half the forest team for fucks sake probably for the last decade.
    Fanbase, history, success. Chelsea and City only really have the artificial success from the oil money etc. West Ham are a bigger side than Chelsea.

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    You're basing it on childhood memories and then trying to get one over on teams who have in recent years surpassed you. Nothing else.

    You talk about fanbase, history and success then list sheffield wednesday. This despite the fact Man City had won more before the oil money even came in than them. You've put them in there because the fucking fa cup semi used to be played there and because of Andy Linighans goal. There's nothing wrong with favouring teams because you have warm and fuzzies about them as a child or younger man but jesus christ at least cop on to it.


    Or explain why Sheffield Wednesday are there when they haven't won the 1st division in 90 years. Haven't won the FA cup in 85 years. Fanbase? According to this average attendance hasn't topped 30k in over 50 years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_F.C._seasons

    I'm not demanding you put Derby or someone else in here btw you not having them on a list of teams your arbitrarily think are 'BIG' is your own business

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    Absolutely gutted my club isn't as BIG as massive clubs like Sheffield Wednesday, Sunderland, Birmingham, Forest etc tbh. Gutted about it.

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    Well that was emotional. Ended up watching extra time and penalties with Beefy, Alex, Mik and Glen. It’s going to be pretty fucking shit to lose two playoff finals in a row if we do. Really hope we step it up a notch as we were nowhere near our best against the Albion, but just about deserved it across the two legs.

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    Hope Derby can get through later for sof and Griffin would love a Rajah playoff final of Villa vs Derby

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    That would be fun.

    Honestly this is such a massive point for Aston Villa now. We've got an established team that really loves playing with each other, and are now very well balanced throughout the eleven. Tyrone Mings has been an absolute revelation for us, shoring up the back and being an absolute rock with a sweet left foot too. John McGinn is proving the be the best bargain we've had since Dwight Yorke, non-stop running and rarely loses the ball and an additional goal threat, and Jack Grealish is the best player in the Championship - far, far too good for it. Incredible to think that he was on the VP terrace from 4 years old and now he's our captain. Tammy Abraham gets tons of goals - and in his interviews recently, he's suggesting massively that he would love to stay at Villa if we go up.

    But, if we don't go up this year, Tammy will of course go back to Chelsea, Tuanzebe will go back to United (who's also been great by the way), and we will have to give up Grealish as he's already stayed with us a season longer than anyone reasonably expected him to, and simply deserves to play in the Prem and to get in the England reckoning now. Since he's been our captain, we've won 13 from 17 or something, and with him in the team in general our winning percentage is almost double.

    To cut the core of any team like that would be devastating - very hard to replace a player like Grealish and a goalscorer like Tammy. If we were to be promoted, I fully expect a massive bid for Tammy and Mings to sign permanently, and keep this team that has won a startling amount of games when playing together. IF this team went up, I can't see us getting relegated in our first year.

    The biggest game we've had for many, many years. I don't think my heart can take it at this point.

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    Are you able to get to the final?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torn View Post
    Absolutely gutted my club isn't as BIG as massive clubs like Sheffield Wednesday, Sunderland, Birmingham, Forest etc tbh. Gutted about it.
    Who do you support?

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    Quote Originally Posted by son_of_foley View Post
    You're basing it on childhood memories and then trying to get one over on teams who have in recent years surpassed you. Nothing else.

    You talk about fanbase, history and success then list sheffield wednesday. This despite the fact Man City had won more before the oil money even came in than them. You've put them in there because the fucking fa cup semi used to be played there and because of Andy Linighans goal. There's nothing wrong with favouring teams because you have warm and fuzzies about them as a child or younger man but jesus christ at least cop on to it.


    Or explain why Sheffield Wednesday are there when they haven't won the 1st division in 90 years. Haven't won the FA cup in 85 years. Fanbase? According to this average attendance hasn't topped 30k in over 50 years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_F.C._seasons

    I'm not demanding you put Derby or someone else in here btw you not having them on a list of teams your arbitrarily think are 'BIG' is your own business
    It was the Fa Cup final with Andy Linighan actually

    Maybe I was a bit generous with Wednesday but they were a big side growing up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBF View Post
    Are you able to get to the final?
    Hopefully. I've only been to a couple of games this season but I know one or two people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by son_of_foley View Post
    Your list is arbitrary and weird. Club size is more fluid than anyone cares to admit. Imagine thinking most of these clubs are bigger than Chelsea or City right now I bet you couldn't even more than half the forest team for fucks sake probably for the last decade.
    Spot on. Unless you're treating it purely as a bragging exercise, a club's 'size' is only relevant to its ability to lure big name players, in which case history is only a tiny part of it. Fans of 'big' teams only talk about their history when their present isn't worth mentioning.

    The Rosk if you absolutely promise we can have Grealish either way, I'll be happy enough with Villa going up. Otherwise I'm Leeds Leeds Leeds all the way.
    Last edited by Simon; May 15th, 2019 at 7:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    Spot on. Unless you're treating it purely as a bragging exercise, a club's 'size' is only relevant to its ability to lure big name players, in which case history is only a tiny part of it. Fans of 'big' teams only talk about their history when their present isn't worth mentioning.

    The Rosk if you absolutely promise we can have Grealish either way, I'll be happy enough with Villa going up. Otherwise I'm Leeds Leeds Leeds all the way.
    Completely. Club size matters in a few cases
    - you have a kid who may get signed to a club but tbh you probably care more about their academy than if they won the league a lot in the 70's
    - if you are a fan of a lower league team and get a cup draw in which case I can guarantee you would rather have City than Forest
    - you are looking to sponsor a club or something


    Rest of the time who the fuck cares. Most football clubs are only the same in name to what they were 20 years ago let alone further than that. Most have lost all sense of touch with the community, it's one of the reasons that what huddersfield have been doing is so impressive. Wonderful effort by them and that's the sort of real connection that matters more and has a longer fucking impact to me anyway.

    I am really turning into an old bastard these days

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    So Bamford comes back from a ban for deception, Wins afree kick through deception then gets booked trying to win a pen. What a cunt.

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    Frank's done well here. Keogh fault for goal

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    Mason mount you star

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    Think we'll lose in normal time now Bennett is off.

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    Stop crying Bielsaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

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    That was a mad game. Well done sof and Peter

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    Cheers Ringo, Can we keep Kayo and mount next season please?

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    Frank did so well. Right shape. Good changes from saturday. Assuming Bennett was injured as taking him off for Huddlestone seemed a little weird

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    Pleased for you lads great game and a great performance. Delighted to see Leeds get fucked.

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    So, the boards officially backing Derby, yeah?

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    Would say Villa are favourites especially considering form since Grealish came back and them clattering us last time we played them.

    Be interesting to see what Frank does. They targeted Bogle very heavily in both games.

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    The aggregate score is 7-0 to us vs Derby this season. We all know how this goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP View Post
    So, the boards officially backing Derby, yeah?
    I’d assume you’d want us to go up given we have gone unbeaten against you for years.

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    Villa definitely favourites. From a quick google Derby didn't have Mount for either game they lost so that might mean they can actually score a goal this time who knows.

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    Really looking forward to the final.

    Would be totally neutral, but I want the Spurs to take Grealish, so up the Rams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rosk View Post
    I’d assume you’d want us to go up given we have gone unbeaten against you for years.
    I think you going up is better for the other Championship clubs - I know you'll lose Grealish etc if you stay down but the money you get will enable you to spend spend spend and with a full pre-season in charge Smith will have you well set up to smash everyone. Derby might struggle a bit more with FPP although they wiggled out of one problem with that already and will lose all their loanees.

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    Money can only do so much when you’re a Championship club not based in London. I love Smith but it’s bloody difficult to replace

    A 27 goal striker (Hogan didn’t work, Kodjia is decent by not that level)
    A top class centre back (Mings and Axel go back, our defence was shite before them)
    The best player in the Championship at the heart of every attack you make

    That’s the core of the team, and even if we played the full team for the entire season, the results would still have us hovering around 2nd/3rd

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rosk View Post
    I’d assume you’d want us to go up given we have gone unbeaten against you for years.
    I do want you to go up, but that's more to do with it helping the strength of football in the area if you did and it'll make a lot of my friends happy. But I'm more likely to cheer on ISIS as they're chucking me off a building than lend my voice to a team including Jack Grealish. Especially when he still has that stupid fucking haircut. How long can that thing persist?

    So I'll be cheering for Derby, hoping Villa win, knowing whatever the result it ends in pain in Small Heath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimboWay6 View Post
    Everton?! Forest?! Wednesday?!

    Discuss.
    What do you mean "Everton?!"

    We are up there on any metric you would use! Not above City and Chelsea obviously (their omission is weird) but seeing as we are top 10 in honours, fanbase and finishing positions for the best 10-15 years then why wouldn't we be on there?

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    Hopefully Tommy Shelby needs Grealish for sometihng and he misses the game

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMH View Post
    What do you mean "Everton?!"

    We are up there on any metric you would use! Not above City and Chelsea obviously (their omission is weird) but seeing as we are top 10 in honours, fanbase and finishing positions for the best 10-15 years then why wouldn't we be on there?
    Yes true, sorry. I was just confused at the obvious omissions.

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    Jim, you've created an enemy for life in @MMH now. He hasn't been posting for a while and has never won any real trophy at RFF but this sort of thing will really fucking grind his gears.

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