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    Keep that shit in the Glory Hunters thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mik View Post
    Not many Newcastle fans posting in here considering they are the biggest club in the lower leagues. They've probably all stopped supporting them.
    I don't think they are any bigger than Leeds or Forest to be honest.

    All they have is the fans and time will tell if they keep them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mik View Post
    Not many Newcastle fans posting in here considering they are the biggest club in the lower leagues. They've probably all stopped supporting them.
    I don't get this.

    There have never been many Newcastle fans on here. And the discussion has hardly been related to Newcastle the past few pages. I'm sure there will be more Newcastle talk when Shearer's future becomes clear.

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    Mik's just trying to bait people, its immature and we should all just ignore him.

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    Whats your opinion on Blackstock and Camp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torn View Post
    Buxton isn't a prospect he's a stupid clumsy slow wanker who regularly got rinsed by League Two strikers and was a mainstay in an awful Mansfield side that got relegated despite having a 20+ goalscorer.

    I'm not laughing at Clough buying players from our league and below but there are plenty of non league prospects that arn't rubbish like Buxton. Also Alan Bennett > Ryan Bennett
    Are you trying to suggest a , what would he have been 22 year old centre back who was captain of mansfield, could not have improved? Are you saying you are a better judge of his ability than Nigel Clough who brought him to Burton after Buxton turned down a contract from Mansfield btw.

    He will be a reserve. We got him for free. He's on a 12 month contract with low wages and high bonuses it's incentivised for him to try and get in the team as opposed to all the wasters jewell signed who have a massive weekly income without playing

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    You don't improve from being a really slow clumsy typical dross League Two centre back to being a Championship level defender after a year in the conference. Fair enough on the reasons for the move I think, they make sense but I'm saying it would be a more effective strategy of the player in question wasn't useless.

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    Nigel Clough will sort him out just like he did with Teale and Savage

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    BRENTFORD are in pole position to sign Dagenham & Redbridge duo Ben Strevens and Sam Saunders.
    As many as eight clubs are chasing the out-of-contract pair, including Wycombe Wanderers, Exeter, Leyton Orient and Bradford.
    But a source close to the players revealed the Bees lead the race.
    Our source said: "Brentford are coming up as champions, so they're in the driving seat.
    "Neither of them are money-motivated, they just want to play at the highest level. It's more about ambition.
    COME ONNNN SIGN!

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    We're also strongly linked with Danny Foster, another Daggers player. I have no idea why we're apparently trying to sign their entire squad.

    Brendan Rodgers is the new Reading manager, interesting, he did well at Watford for the few months that he was there.
    Last edited by Torn; June 4th, 2009 at 9:19 AM.

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    Yeah Watford could well struggle again

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    Yeah i think my prediction of Watford doing well this season won't happen now Rodgers has left.

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    You did qualify by saying if Rodgers stayed so thats fair enough

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    Martinez almost certainly away to Wigan. Wouldn't be suprised to see Bodde and Scotland go as well as a bit of a resurgence for Koumas.

    Hopefully swansea are buggered, their fans are far too smug.

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    I do not like Swansea really mostly because of that dickhead Leon Knight when he was with them. Yeah Bodde to Wigan would be the obvious one, has he recovered from his injury yet?

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    No think he's due for pre-season though

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    That 45 yarder he scored was ridiculous. I reckon Swansea would have got into the play offs if he had stayed. Maybe ANGEL RANGEL to go too, do Wigan need a right back? Possibly Gomez. Every half decent Swansea player and dodgy Spanish pub players are going to get linked with Wigan now.

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    Gomez might indeed fancy this move now. Wonder if Bodde,Scotland and Gomez would be the valencia replacement with a bit of cash left over.

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    They've got Melchiot who is their captain at right back. Knocking on though.

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    Charlton will win League One this season PROVIDED they keep Shelvey and Bailey and hopefully Racon

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    Charlie Mac is going to destroy you when you come to Griffin Park.

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    I remember him scoring in the Premiership against Newcastle, naaah Jonjo and Bailey will wee all over you!

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    Following on from earlier guesses of who Martinez would bring along from Swansea, apparantly Wigan have gone and bid for ANGEL RANGEL

    Also where the fuck have Rotherham gone and got a club record 150k from to buy Tom Pope
    Last edited by Torn; June 7th, 2009 at 7:21 PM.

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    Ohh an Mark Fottheringham or whatever is coming for trial after his trial with Espanyol. Wonder if the championship is starting to get noticed by other leagues and if the exchange rate might mean a few more doing a Tyrone Mears

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    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...371078,00.html

    League Two champions Brentford are set to snap-up three players from Dagenham & Redbridge, skysports.com understands.
    Sam Saunders, Danny Foster and Ben Strevens are all set to quit The Daggers and join Andy Scott's side.
    The trio are all out of contract at Victoria Road, and despite offers to stay at the club, they are ready to walk away from the Essex side.
    Skysports.com understands the trio were all in West London undergoing medicals with The Bees.

    AMAZING

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    Wondering where Kyel Reid will end up? He does spell his name in this weird manner doesn't he? Think he's a good player

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    Yeah he does spell his name like a spastic. Wolves maybe after his loan spell at the end of last year, on a free he'd be good cover for them.

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    He should look at Eagles and see what first team football could do for him

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    Watford are after Andy Scott APPAZ. As well as Pardew and a few others. They can fuck off. Don't see it happening, they are cash strapped and Scott signed a five year contract last summer.

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    Sunderlands new owner has stated he expects a top ten finish this season, which I find hard to believe, I'd love it but I see it unlikely without 5 new players, but its been indicated the cah is there,

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    That's brilliant and all but that's premiership talk

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    So Swansea have given Wigan a bit of a bloodied nose as they've held up the Martinez appointment and fucked up their news conference. MADNESS

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    1PA as you are a new Walsall fan you should be upset to find that MK Dons have bought star striker JABO IBEHRE from them.

    Norwich have signed Gill from Exeter, he had a good season but I think League Two is probably his level

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    KEVIN O'CONNOR, who is brilliant, has signed a contract extension for 2 more years so that will take him to 12 years as a Brentford player. Unprecedented in the lower leagues really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torn View Post
    1PA as you are a new Walsall fan you should be upset to find that MK Dons have bought star striker JABO IBEHRE from them.

    Norwich have signed Gill from Exeter, he had a good season but I think League Two is probably his level
    I am gutted

    Keep me posted on all things Walsall Torn

    I don't have a bloody clue.

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    I have no idea about Walsall either, the only player I knew about was Ibehre and they've gone and bloody sold him.

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    Shit. Suppose I'll have to do a bit of research before the start of the season then.

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    Isn't Michael Ricketts at Walsall now ?

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    He's been released

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1_Pablo_Angel View Post
    I am gutted

    Keep me posted on all things Walsall Torn

    I don't have a bloody clue.
    Walsall always, always beat us.

    I hope they fold.

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    Taken over from the 1-11 thread about PAUL SMITH
    Quote Originally Posted by Red Dog View Post
    He is a decent enough shot stopper but he can't catch crosses and his kicking is horrendous. Which is weird because I'm sure he was on the verge of an England call up when at Southampton. He was quality in Leagie one though

    It's no coincidence that our best form last season was the two occasions we brought in loan keepers to replace him (Camp and Turner).

    I would be very suprised if we started next season with him as number one. And I don't suspect he would want to be a number 2 so on that basis, you never know!
    Yeah he was doing well at Southampton, we played them in the FA Cup that year and he was great then, I remember when Niemi was injured so he was first choice and one of the pundits on MOTD reckoned he was one of the best keepers in the Premiership

    My forest mate said he hasn't been the same after some back injury?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torn View Post
    He's been released
    Thats my knowledge of Walsall over with then.

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    I can't recall him having an injury. I thought he was dropped because his confidence appeared literally shot to pieces. The annoying thing was he was quoted as saying something like "I've not worked on anything specific I don't know why I've been dropped"

    Er yeah alright Paul, maybe because we're bottom of the league and you were shipping goals left, right and centre! To be fair the defence was shit too but when Camp came in it looked a million times better.

    Maybe Davies will get the best out of him or maybe he will go somewhere else and do well cause I don't think he is a bad keeper, but I think we need better.

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    How do you literally shoot someone's confidence to pieces?

    Are you just doing this to annoy me?

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    I'm literally being ironic.

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    1PA has fucked himself right up with that irony thing.

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    You and Red Dog are so unimaginative you keep using the same insult; which it is clear to everyone doesn't apply in the slightest.

    Really poor effort.

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    I haven't really used it much, I just find it funny.

    After all, its not that much different to the way everyone keeps going on about me not staying away for 6 months. I don't see you moaning about that everytime someone uses it.

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    But you didn't stay away for 6 months.

    I am perfectly aware of the meaning of irony.

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    If you wanna give it out, you gotta learn to take it.

    It's only a message board for crying out loud, I don't really give a shit if you know the meaning of irony or not.

    Get some perspective Leeroy.

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    You make no sense.

    On the one hand, people are laughing at you for promising to leave and then going back on said promise.

    On the other, Red Dog (and to a lesser extent you) keep HILARIOUSLY using the term ironic in response to my posts. Despite the fact I obviously know what it means and never used it incorrectly. Why wouldn't I make this rather obvious point?

    There is no similarity.

    Also... I don't really 'give' anything 'out' much. I just don't like people trolling the football forum. Not saying you're doing that now btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary J View Post
    Thats my knowledge of Walsall over with then.
    CLAYTON INCE. Trinidad and Tobago keeper, and my new footballing hero

    Also Troy Deeney, 20 year old lad from Birmingham who finished top scorer with 12 last season. ONE TO WATCH.

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    You love to join in when posters are taking the piss out of others (me, KMH, RD etc.) yet when anyone says it to you suddenly its "boring and unimaginative" and its cluttering up the forums.

    You are a strange case. You say myself and RD are a joke yet you continue to be baited into arguments (often you start them yourself). Why bother with us?

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    People using literally incorrectly annoys me

    You love to join in when posters are taking the piss out of others (me, KMH, RD etc.) yet when anyone says it to you suddenly its "boring and unimaginative" and its cluttering up the forums.
    That's just bollocks. I've hardly even joined in in the thread with your name on it. And you are the most annoying cunt on here. I never jumped on Red Dog when everyone else was when he signed up here. KMH is fine. You should stop trying to include him in your gay little clique, he's much better than you and Red Dog.

    As for people slating me, do what you like in the asylum. I call it boring and unimaginative when you're being a twat in the football forum.

    Feel free to get the last word in, I feel quite guilty for boring the pants off everyone in here again. Time to stop this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1_Pablo_Angel View Post
    CLAYTON INCE. Trinidad and Tobago keeper, and my new footballing hero

    Also Troy Deeney, 20 year old lad from Birmingham who finished top scorer with 12 last season. ONE TO WATCH.
    Didn't know Clayton Ince was there thought he was still at Crewe admittedly this is based on him completing the Crossbar Challenge on Soccer am. So i suppose i was being a bit naive thinking he was still there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1_Pablo_Angel View Post
    You and Red Dog are so unimaginative you keep using the same insult; which it is clear to everyone doesn't apply in the slightest.

    Really poor effort.
    I actually used two seperate insults in the same four word post.

    Bit of credit please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1_Pablo_Angel View Post
    Also Troy Deeney, 20 year old lad from Birmingham who finished top scorer with 12 last season. ONE TO WATCH.
    I've heard of him because Jay signed him in Fantasy Football at the end of last season, but don't know anything about him at all. If Jay signed him that means he's probably bollocks though.

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    League One newcomers Brentford are close to bringing in Dagenham & Redbridge trio Sam Saunders, Danny Foster and Ben Strevens.
    All three are out of contract at Victoria Road and despite offers from the club to stay look set to join Andy Scott's side.
    Winger Saunders told skysports.com that his move should be completed sooner rather than later.
    "Nothing has been signed yet, but we aren't far away from concluding things," said Saunders.
    "The talks are at a very advanced stage and I've already completed a medical, so it should be happening sooner rather than later.
    "Every player wants to play at the highest level possible and with my contract expiring it felt like the right time for me to see if I can compete at League One.
    "It was gutting to miss out on the play-offs last season at Dagenham, which would have given me the opportunity to play at League One possibly, but this offer was just too good to turn down really for my career."


    Sam Saunders says it himself that he's very close to signing for us, YEEEEESSSSSS

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    Also 7 subs are allowed next season, can't say I'm bothered really

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    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...375466,00.html

    Shrimps fail to land Gash
    Morecambe had hoped to entice Gash to Christie Park with a 42,000 bid

    blahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torn View Post
    Also 7 subs are allowed next season, can't say I'm bothered really
    I'm not sure we will have enough players.

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    Torn told me I need to post more in this thread so I thought I might as well.

    Barnet have put an article on their site detailing how far Barnet fans would have to travel this seson to watch every away game. It's 7,094 miles round trip. Thats insane but League 2 is mostly dominated by northern teams so understandable.

    For a club the size of Barnet though, thats' an enormous amount of money to spend. Got me thinking about the possibility of splitting league one and two into a Championship North and South, much like the BSP and BSP North and South. What do people think? Would obviously never happen but I thought I'd see who would end up where. This is what I came up with.

    North
    Carlisle
    Hartlepool
    Huddersfield
    Leeds
    Oldham
    Stockport
    Tranmere
    Accrington
    Bradford
    Burton Albion
    Bury
    Chesterfield
    Crewe
    Darlington
    Grimsby
    Hereford
    Lincoln
    Macclesfield
    Morecambe
    Notts County
    Port Vale
    Rochdale
    Rotherham
    Shrewsbury

    South

    Aldershot
    Barnet
    Bournemouth
    Cheltenham
    Dagenham
    Northampton
    Torquay
    Brentford
    Brighton
    Bristol Rovers
    Charlton
    Colchester
    Exeter
    Gillingham
    Leyton Orient
    Millwall
    MK Dons
    Norwich
    Southampton
    Southend
    Swindon
    Walsall
    Wycombe
    Yeovil

    Seems really interesting and possibly something I'd like to see happen but something that never will. Thoughts?

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    That would be shit mate.

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    You really think so? I'm only looking at it from Barnet's point of view, where we'd save a shit load of money and probably get more away support.

    Errr, i mean, fuck off, go and wank over Charlie SPACDonald.

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    Nah I wouldn't like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBF View Post
    You really think so? I'm only looking at it from Barnet's point of view, where we'd save a shit load of money and probably get more away support.
    If you get promoted you'll get that. This is an easy way out without having to actually achieve anything.

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    It would surely make the league a bit more amatuerish? isn't it better that your playing teams from across the country like the top teams?

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    Its basically what happened in the BSP North/South. It saved quite a few clubs from going out of business. Barnet are actually one of the most financially stable clubs in the football league so it was more hypothetical than anything.

    Barnet are being fucking boring at the moment so it was either post about this or the fixtures coming out on wednesday.

    Who do you want on the first day? And Carling Cup first round draw is on Tuesday. Who'd you want in that?

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    QPR vs. Brentford

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    LEEDS AT HOME.

    And we are in the same group as QPR so I'd love those cunts in the Carling Cup please.

    Quote Originally Posted by JIJ View Post
    QPR vs. Brentford
    Ahah YES.

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    I want Bournemouth away first game. Would be a nice trip and better than the 28th December game last season.

    One of Southampton, Brentford or Charlton in the cup please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torn View Post
    LEEDS AT HOME.

    And we are in the same group as QPR so I'd love those cunts in the Carling Cup please.



    Ahah YES.
    Rowlands would love to knock you bitter cunts out.

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    We better not get someone shit like Barnet.

    Bournemouth away was brilliant last year, fantastic day. And a brilliant performance with 10 men that basically won us the title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIJ View Post
    Rowlands would love to knock you bitter cunts out.
    Marcus Bean would love to break his legs

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    Marcus Bean

    He was alright for a few games.

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    League Two was too easy for him, League One will be fine, Championship above his level.

    DJ Campbell better not sign for you lot, I will be upset if he does.

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulfletcher ... tml#097608

    Ever wondered why you've had to travel the length of the country on a wet Tuesday night to watch your team in action?

    Or you haven't played at home on Boxing Day for the last three years?

    Like me, you've probably just blamed the fixture computer, that mythical piece of technology that determines where you will be and when throughout the football season.

    I have always imagined it to be some great beast of a machine like bertha, firing out tickertape full of fixtures while some over-worked scientist desperately tries to make sense of the information spewing forth.

    The fixtures for the 2009-2010 season are released at 1000 BST on Wednesday and last week I spoke to some of the key people involved in the formation of the fixture list.

    I wanted to find out exactly how the fixture list is put together and just how difficult a job it is. Needless to say I spent a large chunk of last weekend in a dark and cool room as my brain tried to come to terms with its most serious case of information overload since I asked my wife to point out my most obvious flaws.

    Putting the fixture list together is incredibly complex - with a whole series of factors ensuring it is an increasingly difficult task.

    Just to give you one example; every club is paired with another with regard to when they play their home and away fixtures. This is done for a number of reasons, one being so that clubs like Everton and Liverpool do not play at home on the same weekend.

    West Ham, it turns out, are paired with Dagenham & Redbridge. But for reasons of revenue Southend request they do not play at home on the same day as the Hammers as they believe it impacts upon their attendance.

    Southend, though, are in Essex, as are Colchester, so they cannot play together on the same weekend. Colchester share stewards with Ipswich so those two clubs also request they do not play home games on the same weekend. Transport links dictate Ipswich and Norwich do not play together on the same weekend either. In other words, when West Ham play at home can have an impact on when a club as far away as Norwich (108.8 miles) play their home fixtures. And there are 12 other professional clubs in London....

    Confused? Read on and I guarantee you will be.

    The compilation of the fixture list is done jointly between the Premier League and the Football League. The whole process starts upwards of a year in advance when Fifa and Uefa release their match calendars, but work starts in earnest in the final months of the previous season.

    The Football League, for example, sends out a questionnaire to all their clubs in March. This is a club's opportunity to request specific dates they would like to avoid and what other team they would like to be paired with. The questionnaire is jointly signed off by the police and also reflects their concerns - issues such as ensuring high-profile matches do not clash with big events in a city.

    During this time the main man in the process - Glenn Thompson of Atos Origin, an international IT services company, - starts the process he describes as sequencing.

    Most of the year Glenn works as an IT professional in Scotland but he has been compiling the fixtures since the 1993-94 season and describes the task both as an enormous puzzle and his summer job. He is the man who owns the laptop that is the fixture computer.

    Sequencing involves mapping out on what days all the fixtures will take place and the pattern of home and away games that a team will play.

    There are rules governing sequencing - for example clubs will play no more than two home games consecutively and, with one eye on the financial situation at lower league clubs, the games either side of an FA Cup fixture should not both be away from home.

    But slotting all the fixtures into the calendar is becoming more and more difficult.

    Paul Snellgrove is the Football League fixtures officer. I get the impression he is a very amiable man but mention the fixture calendar and it quickly becomes obvious this is a complicating factor in his life.

    The increase in European club competition fixtures - with the inaugural Europa League next season - is eating into the available space; as are international friendlies and World Cup qualifiers. Next season is followed by the World Cup so the campaign ends early. The Champions League final next season takes place on a Saturday, eating into another weekend when Premier League fixtures cannot be played.

    Out of necessity, next season's play-off finals are split across two weekends, with the Championship finale taking place on the same day as the Champions League final.

    There are 10 rounds of midweek Championship fixtures to squeeze in, six for League One and League Two and four in the Premier League. Then you have the FA Cup, the Carling Cup and the Johnstone's Paint Trophy.

    The process of sequencing took Thompson 10 days this year - and once the season finished he plotted his pairings into a grid and started wading through the lists of requests from the clubs and the police. Snellgrove estimated there were about 90 this year from the Premier and Football League clubs, while on average Thompson reckons about 80% of the home and away requests are accommodated.

    He also manually creates the fixtures for Boxing Day and 28 December to try to minimise the travelling distance for fans. As Thompson readily admits, the computer has no concept of the distance between grounds.

    Once the sequencing and plotting was finished - are you still with me here? - Thompson fed all the information into the programme on his laptop. The methodology was created in 1982 and was updated a decade ago. Way back when the computer was a desktop based in Wilmslow and compiling a division's fixtures was an overnight job. These days it can knock out a division in 5-10 minutes.

    Five days after the Championship play-off final Thompson produced his first draft of the fixtures. From that moment onwards it was all a case of refinement, refinement, refinement, with Thompson returning to his computer 30-40 times to try to improve his list.

    These might include issues such as potentially sensitive fixtures being played on the opening or final weekends of the season and derby fixtures taking place in midweek.

    As Snellgrove puts it: "There is a huge amount of information crunched - by the time the fixtures actually come out the original list has been changed goodness knows how many times."

    At this stage only Thompson sees the list, as he adjusts and tweaks it until he comes up with a calendar that he is happy to take to the Premier League and the Football League.

    Last Wednesday, Thompson headed to Preston where he met with both the governing bodies - and a further process of refinement took place over the following days.

    Thompson reckons he does the job because he enjoys it and derives great satisfaction from producing a body or work that has a very tangible end product. But it must be an agonising, head-scratching process that slowly strips you of the will to live.

    For instance, every time a fixture is changed it affects at least seven other fixtures and can easily impact on as many as 48.

    Ian Todd is the president of the Football Supporters Federation and sits on the Fixtures Working Party that meets to discuss Thompson's list. One year he objected to Morecambe playing at Dagenham & Redbridge in midweek. They tried to alter the fixture but found out that it would negatively impact on so many other games that what Todd calls "the least worst option" was to maintain the status quo.

    The Fixtures Working Party met last Saturday to discuss this year's calendar. In addition to Todd, Thompson and Snellgrove, the Premier League and Football Association are represented as well as people from the top flight, Championship, League One and League Two clubs.

    Todd estimates he has between 30-45 minutes to scan the fixtures and point out any concerns that might impact negatively on supporters.

    Monday involves a meeting with various police chiefs and the British Transport Police. Again, there are potential issues here that had never crossed my mind. They look at potential logistical problems such as whether there will be too many fans from different clubs all heading to one train station in London for a particular set of fixtures on any given weekend.

    On Tuesday the list will be signed off and on Wednesday morning we will all see the fruits of a lot of hard work.

    Not everyone will be happy, but Snellgrove is confident that if certain clubs requests have not been accommodated then at least he will be able to explain why.

    Thompson sometimes has nightmares about the job but always hopes to produce a list that is balanced and neutral. He reckons this year's list will not be the best they have ever produced but will be far from the worst.

    The story doesn't end there.

    Over the following week Snellgrove will deal with requests by clubs to switch days. Clubs cannot move a game away from an allocated weekend, but they can switch the day of the match. Cheltenham, for example, often play a home game on a Friday when there is a clash with the horse racing festival.

    Thompson will start dealing with reserve fixtures, academy games and feeder leagues to the Blue Square Premier.

    This year when I see some ridiculous fixtures my club have been asked to play I hope I show a little bit more understanding. Though I seriously doubt it.

    The 2009-2010 Premier League, Football League and Scottish fixtures will be available on the BBC website from 1000 BST on Wednesday.

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    Yeah I saw that article. Quite interesting to see how one fixture can affect so many. Seems like quite a demanding job too.

    I'm still gonna bitch and moan when we have to travel to Darlington on a snowy Tuesday evening only for the game to get a pitch inspection at 7pm. Yeah it was 2 years ago but I'm still bitter.

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    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...382270,00.html

    League One new boys Brentford have landed winger Sam Saunders, striker Ben Strevens and defender Danny Foster on free transfers.


    We've fucking done it. SAUNDERS

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    Poor D&R sounds like they've had the heart of that team ripped right out.

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    Their loss is our gain. Saunders is an unbelievable signing for us really. Not too fussed about Strevens I'm sure he'll do a job, Foster is supposed to be pretty good. And he's been on that right hand side with Saunders already so must have some kind of understanding, like Wood and Dickson do for us on the left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torn View Post
    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...382270,00.html

    League One new boys Brentford have landed winger Sam Saunders, striker Ben Strevens and defender Danny Foster on free transfers.


    We've fucking done it. SAUNDERS
    NEGREP

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1_Pablo_Angel View Post
    Does David O'Leary even get linked to jobs anymore?
    He got linked to the Celtic job recently somewhere.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mik View Post
    Not many Newcastle fans posting in here considering they are the biggest club in the lower leagues. They've probably all stopped supporting them.
    They'll be predicting victory by August.

    Quote Originally Posted by son_of_foley View Post
    Yeah Watford could well struggle again
    I think my earlier predictions about Reading doing well may have been more justified than I had thought.

    Quote Originally Posted by Torn View Post
    I do not like Swansea really mostly because of that dickhead Leon Knight when he was with them. Yeah Bodde to Wigan would be the obvious one, has he recovered from his injury yet?
    Quote Originally Posted by 1_Pablo_Angel View Post
    Pissing off Dave Whelan is never a bad thing.
    "How dare they ask for compensation for those guys - they'd have probably been sacked soon anyway!"

    Tosser.

    (Whelan that is, not 1PA)

    Quote Originally Posted by BBF View Post
    Yeah I saw that article. Quite interesting to see how one fixture can affect so many. Seems like quite a demanding job too.

    I'm still gonna bitch and moan when we have to travel to Darlington on a snowy Tuesday evening only for the game to get a pitch inspection at 7pm. Yeah it was 2 years ago but I'm still bitter.
    So if the fixtures are out at 10am on Wednesday, how long before the BBC league table predictor is updated for next season?

    I have many hours of my life waiting to procrastinate on that thing.

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    So if the fixtures are out at 10am on Wednesday, how long before the BBC league table predictor is updated for next season?

    I have many hours of my life waiting to procrastinate on that thing.[/QUOTE]

    Oh my god so true! the amount of essays that have been neglected because of that thing

    Cant wait for the new fixtures, hope all the London aways are during uni time, could do with newcastle away being in august.

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    Quote Originally Posted by son_of_foley View Post
    To summarise.

    1) You can't dissprove they bid.
    2) You can't discredit Sammy who has no history of this sort of thing
    3) The comparisson was made in relation to a comment about him being a league 1 player something you then confirmed you didn't think. So the comparrison was therefore uneccessary but your comment about him being a league 1 player I thought needed clarification that relegation is not indicitve of individual quality. I never said he was of the standard of Tuncay.
    4) Yes, in the role he plays and the role I said he could play in he needs an engine. That's because that role, again a role that I clearly stated, is that of being the midfield engine. In so much as that to be the midfield engine of a team he probably needs a good engine.
    5) Him being Northern Irish certainly wasn't part of the argument process. The fact he made the list was clearly stated due to the argument process that interest had been there from a premiership club and he had made masses of progress in the past 12 months.

    I guess you probably want to tell me now that if he was to make it he would needed to have made masses of progress in the past 12 months. Something I've continually stated as well as saying I didn't rate him until about 12 months ago as he seemed anonymous during games. He know is making challenges and distributing the ball in a passable way

    I'm a bit confused how you can't follow this pretty much everyone else seems to be getting the point I'm making here.

    I believe Clingan could be playing in the premiership because in his role as midfield engine he's of a similar calibre to some of the current players (i.e :- dickson ethuhu). Me saying he could be a premiership player doesn't suddenly mean I think he is a world beater just that he could perform a role at a few premiership clubs and do it better than some of the players the currently have.
    I thought I'd bring this over here because, well, Sammy Clingan fits better in this thread doesn't he? What with currently playing in League One and all that

    1. You made up the ludicrous statement it's up to you to prove it, not me prove you wrong

    2. He has a history of talking bollocks "I've joined Norwich to help them into the Premiership" LOL

    3. Thc comparison would make sense if it was a player from Southampton or Charlton, relegated from the Championship like Norwich and Clingan. This has been pointed out to you.

    4. I know how he plays. I saw him play for three years. Crab.

    5. Of course you're being biased due to his nationality. I actually respect that patriotism. It's wrong but at least it excuses you a bit.

    You can't use the "ooh if player x can play then so can he" line. Based on that, that sub who claimed to be George Weah's cousin who came on for Southampton, when he wasn't really a footballer, played so therefore any other player from the football league can play there. Bad logic.

    Bottom line is he is a lot crapper than you or indeed himself think he is. I would hand on heart say I wouldn't want him back and our midfield is hardly Xavi and Iniesta

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    I didn't make a ludicrous statement you plonker. I talked about a direct quote from a player. Alex said Norwich had confirmed it, something I havent seen myself. If that's the case 2 out of the 3 parties should be enough for you. Every club will not confirm/deny every single bid for a player

    2) That's not a lie. He was sold an ambitious club. You've mistaken a poor view on the potential of his new club for him claiming to have had a bid rejected. Something his club would have spoken to him about

    3. No the comparisson is a relegation isnt indicative of the quality of a player. I said it didn't make him a league 1 level player in the same way Tuncay isn't of championship ability now. It really is a clear comparisson. It wasn't an attempt to claim he was premiership quality because he got relegated that would be mental. How you are reading it as such I have no idea

    4. What's your point. You laughed at me for saying he could play in the premiership because he has an engine. He does. If you're now claiming he doesn't you should make your points clearer. It was cosntrued as you talking of it as a shortcoming of him as a player as that in he just runs around. I've stated the role he could play is that of a facilitator like he plays with Steven Davis for Northern Ireland

    5. No, the nationality thing isn't coming in to play. I've listed him as one of 7 players from my country who I think can do a job

    You lot also didn't want Commons last year and we were told by many he wouldn't have been first choice so you'll have to understand I'm not holding the average forest fans opinion too high these days

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    How the hell can you call it a ludicrous statement that's pure nonsense. He's directly quoted. Have you taken 1 too many beatings to the head? How can showing a direct quote be making something up? If you mean Clingan made a ludicrous statement then it would be up to you to prove that

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    Quote Originally Posted by son_of_foley View Post

    You lot also didn't want Commons last year and we were told by many he wouldn't have been first choice so you'll have to understand I'm not holding the average forest fans opinion too high these days
    This could go on all day. Lets just say I'm right and leave it. Ok? Good.

    However, your last point, I am big enough to say that Commons would have made us a better team last year. And if he wasn't such a complete and utter cunt I'd have him back.

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    Honestly, you couldn't be more wrong. It actually hurts a little.

    You've gone mental because Fulham made a bid for him. I'm a little worried about your emotional grounding.

    The vast majority of clubs bad-mouth players when they leave their clubs. Kris Commons was called fat and useless by nearly every forest fan I spoke to. 1 trick pony. 1 good game every 3 etc etc You were all wrong. You are wrong about Sammy. He's not a world beater, I'll never claim he is. He has however improved in the past year to the point that his international form suggests he could do a job at premiership level.

    It's clear as day

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    Quote Originally Posted by son_of_foley View Post
    Honestly, you couldn't be more wrong. It actually hurts a little.

    You've gone mental because Fulham made a bid for him. I'm a little worried about your emotional grounding.

    The vast majority of clubs bad-mouth players when they leave their clubs. Kris Commons was called fat and useless by nearly every forest fan I spoke to. 1 trick pony. 1 good game every 3 etc etc You were all wrong. You are wrong about Sammy. He's not a world beater, I'll never claim he is. He has however improved in the past year to the point that his international form suggests he could do a job at premiership level.

    It's clear as day
    People bad mouthed Commons because he left to join Derby. Not based on ability. No-one dislikes Clingan, I don't think anyone I knew were even bothered he left.

    Same reason Derby fans said Earnshaw was shit. (18 goals in 27 games this season by the way.....)

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    He was shit for us though. Most of us were aware that he would be good in the championship hence he was asked to stay with us or given the option of new pastures. He was awful all games in a derby shirt.

    Prefer Hulse with the formation Nigel is playing

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    Quote Originally Posted by son_of_foley View Post
    He was shit for us though. Most of us were aware that he would be good in the championship hence he was asked to stay with us or given the option of new pastures. He was awful all games in a derby shirt.

    Prefer Hulse with the formation Nigel is playing
    To be fair the whole team was the "Worst team in history, worst team in history!"


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    If only we could've had the glory of squeezing up from league 1 due to Leeds point deduction. GLORY DAYS ARE BACK

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    Quote Originally Posted by son_of_foley View Post
    If only we could've had the glory of squeezing up from league 1 due to Leeds point deduction. GLORY DAYS ARE BACK
    Rather that than be LITERALLY the worst team in Premiership history.

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    Yeah being terrible in the top flight is still better than being 3rd best in the 3rd best league. Bearing in mind we had to do well in the year before to get there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by son_of_foley View Post
    Yeah being terrible in the top flight is still better than being 3rd best in the 3rd best league. Bearing in mind we had to do well in the year before to get there.
    2nd best.

    Leeds got deducted points before the season which prompted their early season good form.

    Who was your manager when you got promoted?????

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    No you were 3rd best.

    Billy Davies was our manager. He also would've got more points if given the full season than we managed with Davies then Jewell. Not to keep us up but we would have beaten Sunderlands record, the blame can be placed largely at Jewells door. Davies is a championship level manager who is very sucessful at building hard to beat functional teams. He also made some awful signings when he got promoted.

    Who was your manager when we beat you twice at your place last season?

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