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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeHunt View Post
    Its 3 cause the one against hibs was rescinded.

    Slare posting about Rangers after Celtics best performance of the season
    Thought that was slightly more noteworthy than the team who haven't lost a domestic game in a year and a half continuing to not lose a domestic game. But OBSESSION REDDIT OLDFIRMFACTS BANTERYEARS etc to your hearts content.
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    If they sack Pedro (i personally hope they dont) and they appoint fucking McLeish i will live stream my own circumcision with a pair of nail scissors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slare View Post
    OBSESSION REDDIT OLDFIRMFACTS BANTERYEARS
    Thats like looking at your twitter.
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    Cool - well don't look at it then
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    Cool dont move the goal posts based on where you post.
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    Who's moving the goalposts? I am thoroughly entertained by the rangers scenario, and have great enjoyment in the 'hunsplosions' and meltdowns etc when my teams biggest historical rivals make a constant cunt of it.

    That comes across on twitter obv, and by your own point here too. Don't see what the issue is.
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    But we are just a new team...zombies lol!!!
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    Okay well you keep getting wound up about things I enjoy and I will keep enjoying them then
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    Of course im wound up...
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    1% Celtic fan 99% Rangers hater.
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    How do you know it was our best performance of the season MikeHunt????

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    because I watched it.
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    Pedro gone according to the Scotsman.
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    Yeah gone too according to twitter and reddit which I love
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeHunt View Post
    Of course im wound up...
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    1% Celtic fan 99% Rangers hater.
    Consecutively as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slare View Post
    Yeah gone too according to twitter and reddit which I love
    Whys this about you?
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    I'm gutted to be honest. That clown was taking you backwards.

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    Obsessed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlon Dingle View Post
    Keep your hands off my Deek.
    Its a massive step down for him to go anywhere near that job. You're gonna be stuck with utter dross until January at the very least. Such an unappealing role right now, but fully expect the usual suspects to come out of the woodwork for a payday, a la McLeish, Davies, Ferguson etc.
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    they'll get McCoist back in and he'll be crimson having a heart attack before the new year game

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    What do you Celtic boys think of Ntcham?

    I was at the game with work today and have watched yous a few times and I've been pretty unimpressed. He doesn't look like he gives a toss.
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    He was excellent against Astana and looked the part in a couple of other games but has been pish at times, constantly giving the ball away. I'm sure he'll come good though.

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    The young lad playing for yous today looked pretty decent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeHunt View Post
    What do you Celtic boys think of Ntcham?

    I was at the game with work today and have watched yous a few times and I've been pretty unimpressed. He doesn't look like he gives a toss.
    Seems to take him at least 20 minutes to settle into a game which he gets away with domestically but as you say he’s looked like he’s not bothered at times.

    I don’t think it suits him to play alongside Brown - they’re both trying to do similar things and he kowtows to him when he’s got a better range of passing.

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    0 goals in 5 games, trying to keep spirits up. Celtic and Hibs to come next too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeHunt View Post
    What do you Celtic boys think of Ntcham?

    I was at the game with work today and have watched yous a few times and I've been pretty unimpressed. He doesn't look like he gives a toss.
    He's utter fucking toss and not a footballer. He's been an empty jersey in every game I've watched him in so far and I want to do a horrible moist fart down his mouth.

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    I'm weirdly optimistic about tonight. Think we're well worth the 15/2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wardy View Post
    I'm weirdly optimistic about tonight. Think we're well worth the 15/2.
    I agree, I think the Aberdeen performance will be a lot more indicative of our set up than the Killie one - and we were phenomenal there. Bayern missing a good few numbers, absolutely nothing to lose, quite excited about it.
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    Can't decide between Celtic/Bayern and Roma/Chelsea.

    Or just drinking and listening to heavy metal.

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    Good display from Celtic, but mad moments have cost them.

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    Forrest, McGregor and Tierney were all class last night. Where were they against Slovenia? Two were on the bench and one was played out of position.

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    We were very good last night but conceded two very soft goals.

    The patient build up play that Rodgers is installing in us means you don't get that kick and rush, punt up the park last 5/10 mins - meaning less chance of that big last minute equaliser - but it was a very good performance. The loss might be the making of us based on the performance in general.

    Paris will be a doing and I expect us to run over Anderlecht at home, nothing to say we cant go deep into the Europa depending on draws etc - so very optimistic for the rest of the season.

    Forrest will get our player of the year. He's pitched in with a good few goals and will get a run in the team now with that performance and Paddy's injury. His end product has always let him down but its been there this season - he's hitting maturity (or puberty) as a player and will be amazing from now on.

    All our Scottish boys were fantastic last night (barring Gordon) - and wardy is spot on, it could not be easier to pick an international starting 11 than "all the celtic lads with the best of the rest around them". But no, Barry Bannan, Matt Phillips etc etc.
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    Jordan Jones looked really good when he came on for NI the other night. Is there much hype about him at league level?

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    As far as I am aware there is absolutely none.
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    I know a lot of Killie fans and they absolutely love him. Proper feel good factor at the club since Clarke came in.

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    TIL there are people who support Killie.
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    They're my local team from back home, supported by weirdos who didn't end up fenian/orange bastards.

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    Ross County have given a great account of themselves here, but that Griffiths free kick was beautiful.

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    Brilliant free kick from Griffiths there.
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    FINALLY scored! Thanks Murray!

    And how are Rangers losing 2-0 at Castle Greyskull to Hamilton?

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    Rodgers was tactically stubborn again last night.

    Surely he needs to change his approach.
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    Its a difficult one.

    His tactics and persistence with them have got us to where we are just now. We play a very well drilled system that takes a lot of work and high levels of fitness. Do you change that and spend time working on something else (and possibly affecting the effectiveness of the first system) for the sake of what has essentially been 3 games this season that we are expected to lose anyway? (PSG twice and Bayern away).

    You spend weeks working on a different set of tactics and a different system, potentially losing a domestic game because of this tinkering, for what? Losing 4-1 instead of 7-1? It's shit getting pumped like that off PSG and Bayern to a degree, but I think its just the price we pay for having a philosophy that brings such success domestically and against lesser teams in Europe. Gordon and Boyata were shit though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slare View Post
    Its a difficult one.

    His tactics and persistence with them have got us to where we are just now. We play a very well drilled system that takes a lot of work and high levels of fitness. Do you change that and spend time working on something else (and possibly affecting the effectiveness of the first system) for the sake of what has essentially been 3 games this season that we are expected to lose anyway? (PSG twice and Bayern away).

    You spend weeks working on a different set of tactics and a different system, potentially losing a domestic game because of this tinkering, for what? Losing 4-1 instead of 7-1? It's shit getting pumped like that off PSG and Bayern to a degree, but I think its just the price we pay for having a philosophy that brings such success domestically and against lesser teams in Europe. Gordon and Boyata were shit though.
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    On the whole I'd say yes it is absolutely worth it.

    I dont think a change in tactics would have any affect on league form at all.

    I think it's a bit mad that he just wont back down on it a wee bit.
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    We nearly got something at home though and the performance was very good (but the flip side is that a bit more defensive discipline after our goal gets us a point). But point taken.

    I just think a lot of fans have unrealistic expectations. The gulf between our domestic scene and the european elite is wider than it has ever been. PSG will win the CL this year at a canter. Bayern are a very good side, and we turned over the other team in our group. Realistically, I don't really think we can ask for much more. Getting beat 5-0 at home and 7-1 away is fucking shit, but the circumstances around it (500m up top, most expensive player ever etc etc) tell the story.

    I think he could be less stubborn with these things but it goes completely against everything hes brought to the club so far. You take the good with the bad with the way a manager works sometimes, and if 65 games unbeaten, a treble and a good look at another one means a pumping or two off a european giant now and then - fair enough.
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    PSG are obviously class but there was no need to allow them to absolutely humiliate us twice. We rolled over and and begged them to put it in our collective bumhole.

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    I would have to say most of the blame should be placed squarely at the feet of Scott Brown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slare View Post
    We nearly got something at home though and the performance was very good (but the flip side is that a bit more defensive discipline after our goal gets us a point). But point taken.

    I just think a lot of fans have unrealistic expectations. The gulf between our domestic scene and the european elite is wider than it has ever been. PSG will win the CL this year at a canter. Bayern are a very good side, and we turned over the other team in our group. Realistically, I don't really think we can ask for much more. Getting beat 5-0 at home and 7-1 away is fucking shit, but the circumstances around it (500m up top, most expensive player ever etc etc) tell the story.

    I think he could be less stubborn with these things but it goes completely against everything hes brought to the club so far. You take the good with the bad with the way a manager works sometimes, and if 65 games unbeaten, a treble and a good look at another one means a pumping or two off a european giant now and then - fair enough.
    Basel beat Man U last night.

    I think getting pumped every year at least once is no use at all.
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    Speaking from a neutral point of view, they were 1-0 up after 60 seconds, no team in the world is going to get a better start against PSG than they did. Though PSG are a world class team, they should've tightened up far better and gave the ball away way too much. Seven goals is ridiculous.

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    Lustig going off certainly didnt help matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Speaking from a neutral point of view, they were 1-0 up after 60 seconds, no team in the world is going to get a better start against PSG than they did. Though PSG are a world class team, they should've tightened up far better and gave the ball away way too much. Seven goals is ridiculous.
    Ok m9. That 1 goal advantace with 89 minutes to play against the best team in the world and the best team I have ever seen us play - can't believe we didn't hang onto that, should've taken it into the corner.
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    well strictly speaking he's not, but neither would I be if I said you should really hold your hands in front of your face in the path of an oncoming train.

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    They should've quit the game after two minutes and taken the 3-0 loss

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    We were not very good. They were very good. They have 500 million pounds worth of fire power up front, we do not. We were misplacing 10 yard passed. They never missed a thing all night. We got pumped. It happens. We've been beaten 4 times in 2017. I just don't see the point in getting up and arms about what is clearly an anomaly of an opposition. They beat Barca 4-0 there last year, they pumped Bayern there and they haven't lost a game all season.

    Judge rodgers and his game plan and his ability to 'adapt' over two legged affairs in the Europa when it is something more of our level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBF View Post
    He's not wrong though
    Lot of fans on the phone ins and stuff saying we should have 'held on to the ball' and 'put a challenge in' and 'passed it about more'. Like that hadn't occurred to anyone on the pitch. Like that isn't the absolute basic of what the team is looking to do. To 'hold onto the ball' you have to get it first, to 'put a challenge in' you have to get near the cunts. A lot of people really not able to fathom being on the receiving end of a doing to a far superior football team because they're so used to being dominant.
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    It was more the tightening up bit that I was agreeing with. Rodgers didn't adapt his tactics (and hasn't done particularly) heading into the game. The goal in the first minute was a fluke and is largely irrelevant to how Celtic should've set up heading into the game.

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    Oh and PSG won't win the Champions League. They are too soft in defence and will be eliminated in the quarters or semis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBF View Post
    It was more the tightening up bit that I was agreeing with. Rodgers didn't adapt his tactics (and hasn't done particularly) heading into the game. The goal in the first minute was a fluke and is largely irrelevant to how Celtic should've set up heading into the game.
    He lost his right back after 20 minutes with no real options on the bench but to bring on a CM playing out of position.

    He dropped Sinclair and Armstrong - two of our best attacking players, and played Brown and Chammmmm, two defensive midfielders together. He basically played 5 across the back with 3 centre halves and two holding midfielders.

    I don't know how much more defensive people are expecting him to go here? 10 across the back?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBF View Post
    Oh and PSG won't win the Champions League. They are too soft in defence and will be eliminated in the quarters or semis.
    Wager?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slare View Post
    He lost his right back after 20 minutes with no real options on the bench but to bring on a CM playing out of position.

    He dropped Sinclair and Armstrong - two of our best attacking players, and played Brown and Chammmmm, two defensive midfielders together. He basically played 5 across the back with 3 centre halves and two holding midfielders.

    I don't know how much more defensive people are expecting him to go here? 10 across the back?
    5 at the back was the way to go. Montpellier did it against PSG earlier this season and got a result, play 5 in defence, a tight midfield 3 and a striker who can hold the ball up to relieve pressure. Rodgers needed to do that. It wouldn't have been pretty but it would've stifled the midfield where PSG run things and restricted the space for Neymar and Mbappe. Make them narrow the play and they'll have to pass through a brick wall.

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    You give me 30 if they win it, I'll give you 20 if they don't. Odds n that.
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    Deal.

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    Who's going to win it then? If you're ruling out teams with a 'soft' defence, the bookies second favourite Man City have no chance.

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    One of the usual suspects. Madrid, Barca or Bayern.

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    no chance will Bayern win it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slare View Post
    You give me 30 if they win it, I'll give you 20 if they don't. Odds n that.
    Quote Originally Posted by BBF View Post
    Deal.
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    Can I get a part of this action?

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    Slare effectively just backed PSG to win the Champions League at odds of 1/2.

    Roughly the price they would be to win away at Lille.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slare View Post
    Ok m9. That 1 goal advantace with 89 minutes to play against the best team in the world and the best team I have ever seen us play - can't believe we didn't hang onto that, should've taken it into the corner.
    Settle petal.

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    God Chris Sutton is being absolutely insufferable on Scottish Footbal Extra right now.
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    Hahahahaaa (sorry Mike).

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    Quick response though.

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    Okay so maybe I was too harsh on Celtic's defence after watching that.

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    Those players just look completely lost out there. I dont think theres a manager in the world that can turn them even decent.
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    some of the tags on this thread are a bit disconcerting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fanny View Post
    some of the tags on this thread are a bit disconcerting
    Looking at them, mth has gotten a lot of shit.

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    So that penalty/red decision was a bit of a shocker yesterday. Thompson once again getting at least 3 big calls wrong and ruining what was turning into a proper cup final up to that point. First half was shit but as soon as we scored Motherwell started going for it. Obviously delighted to win another trophy but all anyone is talking about is the pen decision. Sinclair has been poor all season and has previous for a wee dive under little contact.
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    I forget the game but I honestly reckon Sinclair probably dived because the last time he stayed up he was basically punished for being honest, as after that game the referee said if he had gone down it was a penalty.

    I dont think Sinclair is that sort of player and I honestly hope he isn't vilified for this incident.

    With the refereeing being so inconsistent in Scotland it must be near impossible for the players to know what is or isnt going to be given on a weekly basis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeHunt View Post
    I forget the game but I honestly reckon Sinclair probably dived because the last time he stayed up he was basically punished for being honest, as after that game the referee said if he had gone down it was a penalty.

    I dont think Sinclair is that sort of player and I honestly hope he isn't vilified for this incident.

    With the refereeing being so inconsistent in Scotland it must be near impossible for the players to know what is or isnt going to be given on a weekly basis.
    Yeah someone posted that on twitter today, he was getting wrestled then stayed up and got given nothing.

    Tam McManus tweeted saying basically that as long as players don't get given the decisions where they stay up - then the incentive to go down as soon as you feel a breath of contact is there. He does go down very easily at times though does Sinclair - but he's hardly the only player we can say that about.
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    I was at the game, thought it was a penalty at the time, seen it since and I’ve not changed my mind - he pulls him back. Red card was harsh but then he should have been sent off for his tackle on Dembele.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkoke View Post
    I was at the game, thought it was a penalty at the time, seen it since and I’ve not changed my mind - he pulls him back. Red card was harsh but then he should have been sent off for his tackle on Dembele.
    If thats the case then the Moult and Tierney penalty claim should have been given and he should have been also been sent off.

    Dembele's challenge he was booked for should have been a red card as if Kipre's was.

    The refereeing's inconsistency is appalling and they really need to get a hold the situation and sort it.
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    I don’t mean to be all Arsene Wenger but I didn’t see the Tierney/Moult challenge at the time and the highlights I’ve seen didn’t show it either.

    I don’t think Dembele’s challenge was even a booking but consdering he was booked for it and Motherwell subsequently had worse tackles go unpunished (not just Kipre) the referee’s inconsistency was appalling.

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    No amount of whataboutery can condone Sinclair going down like that. What a Fanny.

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    Dembeles challenge was 100% a booking imo. Studs up and above the ball. There was also clear intent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wardy View Post
    No amount of whataboutery can condone Sinclair going down like that. What a Fanny.
    Aye that's it for me - it's looking at the incident in isolation, not an 'if this happened then...'. As a stand alone decision the referee fucked it and Sinclair was a dafty.
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    Would be good if we beat The Rangers twice in one week. Would put us 12 points clear of them.

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    I'd say the chances are extremely high.
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    Ranger/Aberdeen becoming extremely niggley, 7th yellow card just there absolutely loads of stupid challenges.

    McRorie was lucky not to get sent off in the first half.

    Pena has played well tonight and it appears switching to a back 3 has done the world of difference. Playing much better than the shitshow at the weekend.
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