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    I find it confusing that bigger clubs can seemingly have the strength to dictate if one of their top players should be rested for any international games or not.

    Mourinho basically pushing Southgate to not play Harry Kane even though he didn't start on Saturday, whereas John McGinn plays three straight games for Scotland in six days. What is going on here?

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    That really annoyed me, I got into an argument with a few Spurs fans who thought Mourinho was entirely right to do that. As long as Southgate is giving him rest where required (as he did in the friendly vs Wales), he should be entitled to use him as he wants. You can't play Kane for 90 minutes in every game, then blame his tiredness and injuries on the five games he plays for England - he's a professional footballer, international football is a part of the game and you have to factor it in. Obviously it needs to be a compromise between the club and national team ideally, but Kane has played in plenty of Spurs games that were less important than Nations League games.

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    Plus wasn’t he still on the pitch at 75 minutes when they were 7-2 up against Haifa?

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    The Southgate agenda against Grealish continues.

    Please tell me what the fucking point in international friendlies is when a player, who the nation is calling for to play, stars in one, getting an assist, running the game and getting MOTM... only to not play a single minute in the following two competitive matches. Left to sit on the bench while Mount plays every minute, Calvert-Lewin is brought on on the left wing (a position that Southgate has previously said Jack would play in behind Sterling/Sancho/Rashford etc etc) and the team in dire need of a creative spark.

    It is baffling now. We look like the most negative team in world football at the moment. We have deserved to win arguably one game of the last five and that was against Wales.

    I can't see a single pundit out there that doesn't think Grealish should be playing. Players know what he can bring, he's a scary prospect to play against. But Southgate, for some reason, keeps diverting with excuses. DCL was brought on as "we needed pace on the left" - but stats show that DCL has the exact same average and top speed as Grealish for the last 6 months. Jack can't play in that midfield position - yet he says Mount played there despite it being the first time he's played there for England or Chelsea.

    I can already see what's going to happen. Another soulless quarter final exit in the Euros, and a sacking. twat

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    There is no point to international friendlies.

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    Especially with the amount of bloody games and the increased risk of COVID-19 we really should bin them off. There is zero fucking point to them, as can be seen by Gareth Southgate's steadfast refusal to play the best performing player in one for a single minute when a player in his position was needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rosk View Post
    Especially with the amount of bloody games and the increased risk of COVID-19 we really should bin them off. There is zero fucking point to them, as can be seen by Gareth Southgate's steadfast refusal to play the best performing player in one for a single minute when a player in his position was needed.
    The only argument I can see to not play Grealish is that he would be playing a very different role for England than he does for Villa. Can he still create as many chances when he just a piece instead of the main focus.

    But, in theory, THAT is the point of international friendlies. To try it out and see if it works. You never know until you try…

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    Quote Originally Posted by _me View Post
    The only argument I can see to not play Grealish is that he would be playing a very different role for England than he does for Villa. Can he still create as many chances when he just a piece instead of the main focus.

    But, in theory, THAT is the point of international friendlies. To try it out and see if it works. You never know until you try…
    He's been doubled up on for a year by most opposition! He has played in LAM, CAM, LF for Villa across the last year. If anything having better players around him will give him even more space, as has already been hinted at by having Watkins and Barkley play in the first few games this season, and he's got 4 goals and 4 assists in 4 games...

    Grealish as a CAM behind Sterling Kane Sancho would be fucking unreal. But the spineless prick Southgate won't dare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rosk View Post
    He's been doubled up on for a year by most opposition! He has played in LAM, CAM, LF for Villa across the last year. If anything having better players around him will give him even more space, as has already been hinted at by having Watkins and Barkley play in the first few games this season, and he's got 4 goals and 4 assists in 4 games...

    Grealish as a CAM behind Sterling Kane Sancho would be fucking unreal. But the spineless prick Southgate won't dare.
    After that performance against Liverpool, it really does make no sense to at least not TRY him and see what he does if you gave him truly world-class attackers to support him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rosk View Post
    I can already see what's going to happen. Another soulless quarter final exit in the Euros, and a sacking. twat
    Yup. 100%

    And probably a half dead Kane still up front at 90 minutes with his hamstring peeling down his leg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rosk View Post
    I find it confusing that bigger clubs can seemingly have the strength to dictate if one of their top players should be rested for any international games or not.

    Mourinho basically pushing Southgate to not play Harry Kane even though he didn't start on Saturday, whereas John McGinn plays three straight games for Scotland in six days. What is going on here?
    Because John McGinn is the fucking man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wardy View Post
    Because John McGinn is the fucking man.
    You’re damn fucking right he is.

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    I love him so much. Him and his big arse. Gutted we didn't get him just for a couple of seasons. Hopefully he comes home when he's about 35.

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    He will. Once he has done the Treble Treble with Villa.

    Him getting injured last year really fucked us.

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    OK so it was offside so no penalty but Pickford could still be red carded for dangerous play, endangering a player or whatever?

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    Sounds like Van Dijk did his ACL. Done for the season.

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    Sounds like Villa beat another recent Premier League champion last night. Four wins out of four.

    What the fuck is happening.

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    Congratulations on your title win, there's no way you will blow it from here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    Congratulations on your title win, there's no way you will blow it from here.
    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    Congratulations on your title win, there's no way you will blow it from here.
    I agree. I don't see how we won't win 38 games out of 38 now. 114 points here we come.

    In all seriousness, when we consider that just 3 months ago we were 1/33 to get relegated, it's just nice to bask some positivity for a little while.

    Grealish is a fucking god.

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    I'm well up for a retro 80s season with Everton and Villa at the top.


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    That’s nice of him.

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    I'm sure Pickford is shitting himself at the prospect of being fronted by the only person with a reach that is shorter than his.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    Is this Tim under a pseudonym?

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    I'm not going to get too carried away with the Villa results.

    But bloody hell

    Martinez - class keeper. Very (relatively) safe hands, big voice.
    Cash - what a fucking right back he is. So solid at the back and a great asset going forward.
    Konsa - has come into his own at centre back, arguably now better than Mings
    Mings - calmer than last year, strong presence, so so handsome
    Targett - good link up with Jack, arguably the only weak point at this point
    Luiz - we need to buy out the buyback clause ASAP from City. He's now starting for Brazil, so cool calm and collected, what a player
    Grealish - the best footballer in England right now IMO
    McGinn - his injury seems long gone now. An absolute machine, glad to see he is doing it for Scotland too, a goal and 3 assists in 4 games
    Trezeguet - fuck knows who's been coaching him because he's become a player. Still makes mental decisions and hasn't got a touch but his engine is massive
    Watkins - leads the line so well - 20+ from him this year

    Top one this year lads

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMH View Post
    I'm sure Pickford is shitting himself at the prospect of being fronted by the only person with a reach that is shorter than his.
    Hahaha.

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