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    is yours GOLD?

    In the real news, nice to get a win on the board yesterday. Midfield was still pretty non existent so maybe a direct approach will work until we have new signings in place there.

    4th () away game in a row this weekend, hope we can keep it going v Sheffield Utd. Looks like Guendozi could be off.

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    Andre Wisdom has been stabbed. Stable but Still fucking hell

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    Wigan Athletic go into administration.

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    Will be the first of many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary J View Post
    Will be the first of many.
    So many that you wonder if the FA is going to have to make some temporary rules about it.

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    Absolutely ridiculous

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    Rick parry told someone there's strong rumours the new Wigan owners were betting big money on them going down...what the actual fuck. The poor fans

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    Fit and proper owners test indeed.

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    Good win and performance. 3 clean sheets in a row!

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    I know it's been against teams off form, but United are actually playing like good teams should against bad teams. Imagine if Bruno was signed before the season began. He has (and Pogba now that he's back) completely changed the team.

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    Greenwood looks the real deal. If they had got Fernandes in the summer they could have been a lot closer to City and Liverpool.

    I still think they need an elite manager though.

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    Did you forget your password js?

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    Must be either him or Peter.

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    I support Derby thanks.

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    There was another Peter prior to you, he was as one eyed as it gets

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romford Pele View Post
    There was another Peter prior to you, he was as one eyed as it gets
    He was sound for years and then just went properly mad (and indeed one eyed) at the end.

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    I think I posted it recently, but his breakdown rant about Liverpool was one of the all time classic posts on these boards, just swinging at everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMH View Post
    He was sound for years and then just went properly mad (and indeed one eyed) at the end.
    I remember he went on one towards the end

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    Did you forget your password js?
    Haha it’s defo JS this

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    I always thought when we finally won the premiership all the ex Liverpool members would come back to have one last return but nope.

    I’m the last of the twats still

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    Quote Originally Posted by Underscore_ View Post






    Enjoy your one and only post and the retirement

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romford Pele View Post
    Greenwood looks the real deal. If they had got Fernandes in the summer they could have been a lot closer to City and Liverpool.

    I still think they need an elite manager though.
    I’ll stick my balls on this and say Curtis Jones will be better.

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    Nah fam, Louie Sibley will be better.

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    Is he in Peaky Blinders?

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    I think it's highly likely that Utd will overtake Leicester for the 4th CL spot. Could even get 3rd.

    Great achievement if Ole can pull it off.

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    I think realistically we needed to win last night to have any chance of a late run for a CL place. Even if City get their appeal upheld 5th looks tricky, especially with Liverpool and Spurs coming up.

    6th and a Europa place would be an overachievement considering how bad this season has been.

    Thought we were a bit unfortunate last night, we should have taken our chances but the way Arteta has tightened us up at the back with the personnel we have is excellent. Luiz actually looks decent in a back 3 and Tierney looks class.

    Will be interesting to see what changes are made in defence and midfield come end of the season as both need a fair bit of work to make us a threat again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murphy View Post
    I think it's highly likely that Utd will overtake Leicester for the 4th CL spot. Could even get 3rd.

    Great achievement if Ole can pull it off.
    I think Chelsea has solidified themselves so I think 3rd would be tough. I'm thinking there's still a high chance of ending up 5th. The run in is theoretically easy but United are still making stupid mistakes leading to easy goals so dropping points is a possibility. It could all make that last gameday an exciting one with Chelsea-Wolves and Leicester-United.

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    What do you think of the manager Pablo? Good enough to win the title?

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    It's really hard to say. You switch Ole with Klopp or Pep and United would still at best be 3rd. Maybe 2nd if Ole was in charge of City. The Liverpool and City squads were just that much better throughout the season. Now with a healthy Pogba, Bruno in the team things might be closer.

    I'm not going to be blinded and say that Ole is the same class as the top tier managers. But he might be good enough to win the title in a couple years as the team continues to get better.

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    I will eat anyone for a win vs United on Thursday.

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    Will be interesting to see which of him, Lampard and Arteta do well. I wonder whether Spurs think they made a mistake by appointing Mourinho. Certainly looks that way.

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    I'm still laughing at the Mourinho appointment. Baffling from both sides. Just doesn't fit.

    It's all a storyline for the Amazon doc, anyway. Last episode will be Pochettino's return.

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    Pochs off to Newcastle I hope...

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    PJ MY EYES!!!!!!!!!

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    Love it that he waited 10 years to come back and do this. Probably time he was rebanned though now.

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    Man Utd to effectively relegate Villa tonight for my accurate description of them being "potentially in decline" in 2011?

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    Interesting that my first ever season ticket (1995-1996) was the last time that Aston Villa beat Manchester United at home in the Premier League. August 1995.

    Fucking hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Underscore_ View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rosk View Post
    Interesting that my first ever season ticket (1995-1996) was the last time that Aston Villa beat Manchester United at home in the Premier League. August 1995.

    Fucking hell.
    Was that the Alan Hansen kids comment game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rosk View Post
    Interesting that my first ever season ticket (1995-1996) was the last time that Aston Villa beat Manchester United at home in the Premier League. August 1995.

    Fucking hell.
    3-0 or 3-1 wasn’t it? Pretty sure Mark Draper scores too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romford Pele View Post
    Was that the Alan Hansen kids comment game?
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Scott View Post
    3-0 or 3-1 wasn’t it? Pretty sure Mark Draper scores too.
    Yeah well Googled lads. Fucking hell.

    laaa laaa. la la la laaaa la. hey hey hey. GARETH SOUTHGATE. Boom boom boom, let me hear you say Savo. SAVOOOO. Ooh aah. Paul McGrath. Ooh ahh Paul McGrath. Start spreading the news, he's playing today. I want to see him score again - Dwight Yorke, Dwight Yorke. If he can SCORE from there he'll score from ANYwhere it's up to you, Dwight Yorke. Dwight Yorke.

    It's gonna happen tonight lads. Lightning WILL strike for a second time. You wait and see.

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    Nope I didn’t. My football memory as a kid is quite good.

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    Villa definitely looking like they are up to doing it for you Rosk.

    *edit*I'm so sorry. That's such a shite penalty call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murphy View Post
    I'm still laughing at the Mourinho appointment. Baffling from both sides. Just doesn't fit.

    It's all a storyline for the Amazon doc, anyway. Last episode will be Pochettino's return.
    Not a single shot on target tonight. Felt like the match would never end.

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    Awful penalty call

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    Mings really isn't anything special. 20m isn't a terrible price though but I'm not sure he should be a regular for England anytime soon

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    May have jinxed him there.. price wise its what Brighton paid for Webster and I don't think he's worse than Webster but Jesus he was shite for that 2nd goal.

    Brighton BTW must be over the moon with their cb recruitment dunk, webster and probably white is a great basis. Before you even get to matt Clarke

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    I honestly thought you sent that first one after the 2nd goal. Was not a great run of play for him.

    The awful penalty really took the wind out of Villa's sails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Not a single shot on target tonight. Felt like the match would never end.
    Thrilled that I only watched a few minutes in the middle. Arsenal must be relishing Sunday. My sister asked me if I wanted to watch it down the pub. I won’t even be watching at home.

    Not only will I be glad to see the season end, but I also have no desire to watch them next season either. Unless Mourinho has gone, perhaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murphy View Post
    Unless Mourinho has gone, perhaps.
    The sooner the better.

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    Generally speaking, I support the team through thick and thin, obviously. And I was always watching, even when they were flirting with relegation the odd time back in the 90s. But I have no time for this shit now. It's painful to watch, as anyone with half a brain knew it would be.

    I'll still watch other games, like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by son_of_foley View Post
    May have jinxed him there.. price wise its what Brighton paid for Webster and I don't think he's worse than Webster but Jesus he was shite for that 2nd goal.

    Brighton BTW must be over the moon with their cb recruitment dunk, webster and probably white is a great basis. Before you even get to matt Clarke
    You mentioned White. I'm being blind. I like him, he's good.

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    The north London derby on Sunday is interesting because if Spurs look shite and lose, Kane's going to force a move isn't he? They look well off the pace. Even though he's had injuries, HE looks well off the pace inside that Mourinho team without Eriksson. 12 months ago he was a shoe in for first name on the England team sheet, destined to overtake the records of Rooney and Shearer for England and the Prem respectively, and in a team that looked a signing or 2 away from winning the big trophies. Now, with Sancho, Sterling, Rashford and particularly Greenwood performing well, even the first of those is in doubt. The career is short, he has to see next year as a write off at this stage, suddenly he'll be approaching 30 the next time Spurs might kick a ball in the Champions League. His personal output is affected. He's gone surely.

    I can't look past Liverpool, City, Chelsea and United as the top 4 for the next couple of years. This has been a transitional year for Chelsea with the transfer ban and Hazard gone, they've not fallen off, blooded players through and now signed quality for next year. United look excellent. I think there will be a drop off by Liverpool a la City this year but they should still be favourites. The chasing pack look well off the pace.

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    We're fucked.

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    So.... @JP you think this one's legit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fanny Batter View Post
    The north London derby on Sunday is interesting because if Spurs look shite and lose, Kane's going to force a move isn't he? They look well off the pace. Even though he's had injuries, HE looks well off the pace inside that Mourinho team without Eriksson. 12 months ago he was a shoe in for first name on the England team sheet, destined to overtake the records of Rooney and Shearer for England and the Prem respectively, and in a team that looked a signing or 2 away from winning the big trophies. Now, with Sancho, Sterling, Rashford and particularly Greenwood performing well, even the first of those is in doubt. The career is short, he has to see next year as a write off at this stage, suddenly he'll be approaching 30 the next time Spurs might kick a ball in the Champions League. His personal output is affected. He's gone surely.

    I can't look past Liverpool, City, Chelsea and United as the top 4 for the next couple of years. This has been a transitional year for Chelsea with the transfer ban and Hazard gone, they've not fallen off, blooded players through and now signed quality for next year. United look excellent. I think there will be a drop off by Liverpool a la City this year but they should still be favourites. The chasing pack look well off the pace.
    I agree on that top 4. There are structural issues at both Arsenal and Spurs. I do like Wolves and Leicester though, both very good sides so you never know.

    United have definitely improved. Greenwood and Fernandes have really made a difference there. I still think next year's Champions will be either Liverpool or City as they have elite managers where there are questions over Lampard and Ole.

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    Well, that was nice for a season. Back to the Championship we go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TraXX View Post
    Well, that was nice for a season. Back to the Championship we go.
    Obviously easy to say as a non-fan, but isn't the Championship more fun (as a fan at least) anyway?

    Probably says something about my mentality that I would rather be a big fish in a small pond than the small fish in the big pond…

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    Quote Originally Posted by _me View Post
    Obviously easy to say as a non-fan, but isn't the Championship more fun (as a fan at least) anyway?

    Probably says something about my mentality that I would rather be a big fish in a small pond than the small fish in the big pond…
    It's more competitive, and therefore there's more chance of a positive result. But the Premier League has the prestige. It has the limelight.

    Being relegated sucks, of course, but it's the manner in which we have been the disappoints the most. We didn't spend millions in transfers, we couldn't afford to. We nearly went into administration a few years ago and the club do not have the money, and more importantly, the board recognised that and refused to put us back into that predicament.

    This season was always a free hit. Unfortunately, it hit us back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TraXX View Post
    It's more competitive, and therefore there's more chance of a positive result. But the Premier League has the prestige. It has the limelight.

    Being relegated sucks, of course, but it's the manner in which we have been the disappoints the most. We didn't spend millions in transfers, we couldn't afford to. We nearly went into administration a few years ago and the club do not have the money, and more importantly, the board recognised that and refused to put us back into that predicament.

    This season was always a free hit. Unfortunately, it hit us back.
    I guess I thought there was more coverage/respect for the Championship in England. In America, it is basically impossible to get games but I thought it was different for you guys.

    I love competitiveness in sports (why I enjoy college sports more than professional sports in America). The Championship has always looked like a more fun league than the Premier League. Reminds me of "college football" vs "pro football" here in America. Every couple of years, I try to get into it but with no games to watch* and just stuff to read, I lose interest.

    *(Yes, I know I can find games online. But I am am old man. I watch sports on a TV, in HD. Not on a choppy stream in Polish.)

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    So.... @JP you think this one's legit?
    Which, what, how?

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    The gay premier league player. Or do you think it’s like that twitter account last time around which you doubted from the beginning.

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    A 12 year old behind those Zaha tweets ffs.

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    I SHOCKED to my core that Man City ban is overturned.

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    Thought they'd at least pretend they hadn't taken a bribe by giving them a suspended sentence pending future behaviour or whatever. Absolute joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fanny Batter View Post
    Thought they'd at least pretend they hadn't taken a bribe by giving them a suspended sentence pending future behaviour or whatever. Absolute joke.
    What's a joke about it? Keep in mind City have won in court twice over FFP now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    What's a joke about it? Keep in mind City have won in court twice over FFP now.
    It would be hysterical if UEFA just totally screwed City with the officials for the next game. You guys buy off one court so we will just use our own court.

    Referee for their game against Real Madrid: Florentino Perez…

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    Having read some of the detail of the ruling, City were actually fined for not co-operating with the investigation (and who could blame them after 5 separate leaks with sensitive information), but the actual investigation ruling was reversed because UEFA botched the investigation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romford Pele View Post
    Having read some of the detail of the ruling, City were actually fined for not co-operating with the investigation (and who could blame them after 5 separate leaks with sensitive information), but the actual investigation ruling was reversed because UEFA botched the investigation.
    They didn't botch it as much as City just hid the evidence and lied about until the time limits ran out

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    Clive Tyldesley has taken this news well...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-53404899

    I could never stand him. He loved United, hated Arsenal his commentary when they played each other was horrifically biased.

    Sam Matterface is good though.

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    It's all a conspiracy against arsenal by the lizard queen.

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    Cos no commentators are ever biased.

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    Clive Tyldesley is not only a great commentator, but a great human being. And even if you don't like his commentary, it sounds like this decision has come quite suddenly from his reaction and after over 20 years that can't be right.

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    To be fair to Tyldesley it is pretty easy to hate Arsenal.

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    I prefer Martin Tyler. You can tell he is a Gooner love him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romford Pele View Post
    I prefer Martin Tyler. You can tell he is a Gooner love him
    He's a Woking fan...

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    Well he says that, but come on. Do you really buy that Alan Green is a Macclesfield fan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gangers View Post
    Clive Tyldesley is not only a great commentator, but a great human being. And even if you don't like his commentary, it sounds like this decision has come quite suddenly from his reaction and after over 20 years that can't be right.
    Hes not a great commentator though is he? For me he's the main reason itvs football coverage is awful. Saying that matterface is fucking awful too

    England games are less nauseating on BBC and that's a fact

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    Football Commentary has been shit since Barry Davies retired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by son_of_foley View Post
    Hes not a great commentator though is he? For me he's the main reason itvs football coverage is awful. Saying that matterface is fucking awful too

    England games are less nauseating on BBC and that's a fact
    I think he's wicked. Never had an issue with his commentary.

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    LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary J View Post
    Football Commentary has been shit since Barry Davies retired.
    Barry is the undisputed no 1. The fact he did Big Train as well only adds to his legend.

    My top 3

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    3) Alan Green

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    AND ITS LIVE! Fook off.

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    Tyler is absolutely dreadful.

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    Yeah but he's a Gooner so a legend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary J View Post
    Football Commentary has been shit since Barry Davies retired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romford Pele View Post
    Barry is the undisputed no 1. The fact he did Big Train as well only adds to his legend.

    My top 3

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    The staring contests were the best thing on big train. Actua Soccer 2 had the best commentary of any soccer game too. The BBC didnít use him enough as they always preferred Motson for the big occasions.

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    Yeah that was weird. I always thought John Motson was overrated and actually quite annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Underscore_ View Post



    Agashahajahshaha 2-1 2-1 2-1

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    @MMH please pllase please please do us a massive favour tonight and just let us beat you 3-0? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rosk View Post
    @MMH please pllase please please do us a massive favour tonight and just let us beat you 3-0? Thanks.
    I hope you do win, I don't want Villa to go down, they are a proper football club.

    To be honest though if you can't beat us right now then you probably deserve to go down.

    We are proper shite. An idiot in goal, no midfield to speak of and two good strikers who are starved of any service as our first pass once we reach the half way line is to play it back to Pickford who will then just hoof it into touch.

    There are rumours of some issues in the squad, mainly Ancelotti is telling them they need to work harder and they don't like it. I can't wait for a massive cull once the season ends.

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    We don't have any strikers who can score so this might be a terrible 0-0.

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    Wouldn't shock me at all.

    Your midfield should be able to run all over us, everyone else has recently. We are short in there anyway but have loads out injured too. Gomes and Davies/Sigurdsson are not athletic enough to cope with a proper midfield.

    Didn't realize how big a game it was for Villa actually. The arsenal game could go either way, hopefully that West Ham game on the last day will have something riding on it.

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    If we fail to win tonight, we're down. We deserved something out of the Arsenal game earlier in the season, but we tend to shit ourselves against the bigger clubs so can't see much more - ideally the last game of the season could be an exciting one for all involved. But right now, we're 1/7 to be relegated, so there's little point in getting my hopes up

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