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    The rest of Europe adopts it next season.

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    Excellent. Now that is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBF View Post
    The rest of Europe adopts it next season.
    I don't understand the benefit unless the winter window also happens during a period of no games

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    Trying to finalise my Fantasy team. Having De Bruyne and Kane from the start is a bad idea, right? Spurs have a lack of options, but surely De Bruyne won't start the season?

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    Why has it been changed from end of August anyway?

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    Can't say for sure, but the way this window has gone so far I reckon Levy had something to do with it.

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    United in for Godin. Please no, he is superb

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    Ain't happening. He just signed a new deal apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    Can't say for sure, but the way this window has gone so far I reckon Levy had something to do with it.
    Haha.

    No players it looks like for you.

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    Yeah it's mad. The line seems to be that we're very happy with the squad and were aware this was a possibility because we're at a level where it's difficult to buy players to improve the squad. Which is all well and good in theory, but players like Sissoko had relatively important roles in the squad last season (Sissoko played a ton of games, and while Llorente didn't he was there in case Kane got injured) so it's impossible to think we couldn't have improved. On the plus side we haven't lost anyone important - yet - but it feels like a huge missed opportunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murphy View Post
    I'd like it if it were across the board, but it isn't. And there having been a World Cup hasn't helped things either. Good idea, in principle, in reality, not so far.
    I think you are right that it is the WC that screwed it up. It just felt like nothing happened for months and now we've run out of time.

    It needs to be uniform across Europe for sure and I would probably shift it back one week. Say the rosters have to be set before game 2 instead of game 1. Just give one extra week of practice/game time to help make a decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RuneEdge View Post
    Ain't happening. He just signed a new deal apparently.
    Ah, he used the interest to force a pay rise. This always happens to United

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romford Pele View Post
    Ah, he used the interest to force a pay rise. This always happens to United
    Nothing happened to us. The only people getting fucked are the clubs who're fooled into giving the contract extension with the higher wage, and the people who place bets after buying into the rumours. Sky are known to put out stories like that, shift their betting odds, then put out another story themselves to kill their own rumour.
    I don't even know if the interest from United was real. If we couldn't convince Griezmann to leave Atleti, I don't think anyone at the club would've expected us to convince Godin to make the transfer either, especially hours before the window closing. Godin may be the most revered person at the club behind Simeone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _me View Post
    I think you are right that it is the WC that screwed it up. It just felt like nothing happened for months and now we've run out of time.

    It needs to be uniform across Europe for sure and I would probably shift it back one week. Say the rosters have to be set before game 2 instead of game 1. Just give one extra week of practice/game time to help make a decision.
    Its not really possible for it to be uniform with different nations starting their seasons at different times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMH View Post
    Its not really possible for it to be uniform with different nations starting their seasons at different times.
    I don't think I've ever known you to be happy with Everton or at least not to my memory. Are you happy with the business done?

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    MMH was happy for a couple of months when Yakubu was banging them in.

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    Fuck how could you not love Yakubu. That man was a fucking machine

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    Quote Originally Posted by son_of_foley View Post
    I don't think I've ever known you to be happy with Everton or at least not to my memory. Are you happy with the business done?
    Honestly until they play I have no idea.

    On the surface of it we have done good business (if we can get Zouma over the line) but we had this last season and it all went wrong too.

    Anything that means Michael Keane is not playing should be a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Scott View Post
    Why has it been changed from end of August anyway?
    Because people were moaning that it was three weeks into the season and not before the first game.

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    There's nothing wrong with the transfer window closing before the season starts. But why the fuck is the season starting already? Why not in another 2 weeks? Very few clubs appear to be ready, especially the ones who had players in the latter stages of the World Cup. It makes no sense.

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    There's got to be something wrong when Pochettino is saying we'll be missing up to nine players for our game tomorrow because they haven't trained yet.

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    Slight intrigue, sure, but Utd/Leicester to open the season is proper dull. Won't be bothering with that.

    No idea what to expect from Newcastle/Spurs tomorrow. Sunday should be fun.

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    United/Leicester might not be a great game because Mourinho murders any excitement instantly, but there's plenty of interest there with all the new signigs - excited to see how Maddison gets on as by all accounts he tore up the Championship, and it'll be good to have a look at Fred too.

    Incidentally, it's weird that Leicester have signed three centre backs for the first team squad (Evans, Soyuncu and Benkovic) when they already have Maguire and Morgan, plus Fuchs if they're playing three at the back. Seems like overkill, unless they're phasing Morgan out.

    EDIT: Looking forward to seeing Ricardo Pereira too, we were linked with him for a while and he should replace Simpson, who was a weak link even in their title-winning season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RuneEdge View Post
    Nothing happened to us. The only people getting fucked are the clubs who're fooled into giving the contract extension with the higher wage, and the people who place bets after buying into the rumours. Sky are known to put out stories like that, shift their betting odds, then put out another story themselves to kill their own rumour.
    I don't even know if the interest from United was real. If we couldn't convince Griezmann to leave Atleti, I don't think anyone at the club would've expected us to convince Godin to make the transfer either, especially hours before the window closing. Godin may be the most revered person at the club behind Simeone.
    Well no because it makes Utd look very silly, it happened with Dani Alves among others. Someone tipped Utd off he wanted to come and they were very gullible

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    Maddison had a very sharp first half for a 21 year old making his debut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romford Pele View Post
    Well no because it makes Utd look very silly, it happened with Dani Alves among others. Someone tipped Utd off he wanted to come and they were very gullible

    It only makes the people who believe this stuff look silly.

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    United are fucking rubbish.

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    And will still most likely come Top 3 at the end.

    Very poor performance. At least it didn't finish 2-0 to fully hide how disturbingly shit they were for so much of the game. Especially once they took the 2-0 lead.

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    Maddison will be in the England squad by the end of the year. Absolutely phenomenal for us last season.

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    Think Chilwell made a good case for a call up yesterday too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    Yeah it's mad. The line seems to be that we're very happy with the squad and were aware this was a possibility because we're at a level where it's difficult to buy players to improve the squad. Which is all well and good in theory, but players like Sissoko had relatively important roles in the squad last season (Sissoko played a ton of games, and while Llorente didn't he was there in case Kane got injured) so it's impossible to think we couldn't have improved. On the plus side we haven't lost anyone important - yet - but it feels like a huge missed opportunity.
    Do you think the stadium has restricted the budget?

    I think Levy made an error in not being willing to sanction moves to other english clubs. Times have changed, there arent many clubs in Europe now who can pay top wages.

    Spurs could maybe have got Martial if they had been willing to let Rose or Alderveld go to United. Yes I know I spelt it wrong.

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    Also I read that Daniel Levy is the highest paid person at the club.

    If I was the likes if Eriksen on 70k a week that would piss me off.

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    The thing about Levy being the highest paid person at the club isn't true apparently, he's the highest paid CEO though (which is fair enough if you see his job as purely ensuring the club is secure and profitable). As for the stadium hindering transfers, I would imagine not given how much Poch talked about needing signings before he signed a new deal, and all the talk was that it wouldn't affect anything...but then why didn't we sign anyone?

    The best spin is to say that we didnt find the players we wanted and Poch was happy to stick with what he had rather than clog the squad up with more substandard players we won't be able to sell next year. The worst spin is that Levy has just sold him a lie to get him to sign a new deal, then refused to spend. The truth is most likely somewhere in between I guess.

    My hope is that the saved money allows us to offer new deals to Eriksen and the rest...but if they interpret the lack of transfers as a lack of ambition, maybe money wont convince them to stay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by son_of_foley View Post
    Think Chilwell made a good case for a call up yesterday too
    England need to figure out a system with like 6 fullbacks somehow. It is their strongest position by far. Chilwell looked very good and even Shaw showed that potential he had at Southampton.

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    I genuinely don't know the rules of football anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMH View Post
    I genuinely don't know the rules of football anymore.
    Don't touch the players trying to score the goals I think

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    Quote Originally Posted by _me View Post
    Don't touch the players trying to score the goals I think
    Yeah the 4th official said the red was for denying a goal scoring opportunity which is odd as the ball was going the other way from the goal.

    Happy with that point all things considered. Today showed why we urgently needed two new centre backs. Keane actually did well generally today though.

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    I thought it was the wrong decision at first too but it was a very dangerous tackle, easily an ankle breaker. If he gave it for denying a goalscoring opportunity then it's the wrong decision because he got the all, but if it's for the excessive force then it's right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    I thought it was the wrong decision at first too but it was a very dangerous tackle, easily an ankle breaker. If he gave it for denying a goalscoring opportunity then it's the wrong decision because he got the all, but if it's for the excessive force then it's right.
    How can you apply excessive force when stretching for the ball though? By the whole nature of the tackle the force is lessened.

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    I don't think there was excessive force but there was definitely an aspect of endangering the safety of an opponent resulting in serious foul play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMH View Post
    How can you apply excessive force when stretching for the ball though? By the whole nature of the tackle the force is lessened.

    Maybe excessive force wasn't the right term...just saying that despite winning the ball it was dangerous. Could maybe have got away with
    a yellow but I don't think it was massively controversial tbh. Thought Everton were good considering the red, Wolves were weirdly defensive despite the extra man. Good shout on Richarlison, everyone except you was saying he would be a massive flop...not a bad start

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBF View Post
    I don't think there was excessive force but there was definitely an aspect of endangering the safety of an opponent resulting in serious foul play.
    All very good apart from the fact he was sent off for denying a goalscoring opportunity which is odd as 1, their player never once had the ball and 2, the ball was flying down the other end of the pitch when the red card was issued.

    I would be annoyed but slightly more understanding if any of the other reasons mentioned were the cause of the card. To be fair I think Richarlisons yellow was worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    Maybe excessive force wasn't the right term...just saying that despite winning the ball it was dangerous. Could maybe have got away with
    a yellow but I don't think it was massively controversial tbh. Thought Everton were good considering the red, Wolves were weirdly defensive despite the extra man. Good shout on Richarlison, everyone except you was saying he would be a massive flop...not a bad start
    He's a talented player. Still very young so he will have a few bad weeks but I am very excited at the prospect of us going forward with Richarlison, Bernard, Walcott, Sigurdsson and Lookman all hopefully being able to feed Tosun and with Niasse available for the last 20-30 mins to add something different.

    Just need to hope our new defence gels quickly, Jagielka missing a few games is a blessing in disguise as long as Mina and Zouma can get up to match speed soon.

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    Earlier this week it was pointed out that you'll be able to see White Hart Lane on FIFA before you get to see it in real life, and I thought fuck me could anything be more Spursy than that. It's now been pointed out that you'll be able to see White Hart Lane on the new NFL game before you get to see it in real life

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    They're gonna call it White Hart Lane?

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    Well there's no sponsor yet, presumably because no decent business will sponsor a ground that has no opening date and is getting negative coverage every day. Once it's open it will be fine but right now it's the definition of a toxic brand.

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