To be honest I've had that as a strong possibility in the back of my mind. Unless the Bowser/Ganon/DK trio is overpowered a bit more to make up for it.
I'm trying to look at every bloody thing I can find to get people to not be so certain that I'm yellow and the only other thing I can find is that I jumped on the JP train just before he got vig'd.
And sorry to hear Grim.
In fairness, Link and Mario have bodycounts in the 1000s.Originally Posted by Mikey_Jones
Badger- I would be gobsmacked if he was yellow, given the early interaction between him and JP. The vig kill was unexpected, and at the time it would seem weird for them to call each other out as they did.
Badger did claim a power role, so that's definitely something to look out for too.
I've been wrong in this game before, and badger is on the 3rd group I wrote up, because I don't have his role (which would obvs help be more confident in the overall). Might have a guess, but I'm not confident.
I can’t say anymore than what I’ve said already or I’ll be modkilled but can only reiterate that I have been telling the truth. I am 1000% town.
Read back through some posts. *slaps self on head* got it.
Bowser’s only appeared on odd nights so TraXX can’t be ruled out. I still think he’s more likely town but that’s just a read.
I think the trio being overpowered is perhaps more likely than a traitor scum (though I guess that can’t be ruled out). Ganon has a list of spells and Bowser might be a strongman killer which I think is how he was able to roast both Fro and Virm simultaneously with Fro trying to protect Virm.
Zelda (Fro) wasn't protecting Toad(virm). Fro was protecting TraXX that night.
Virm hid behind Fro. When Fro got killed, the nature of the hider role means that if the person they hide behind gets killed, they get killed as well.
Just to get my names out, Kev, TS, Grim and kangus are the 4 I'm looking at right now.
Okay I get the protecting TraXX bit now re-reading but I thought Jarrod said Virm had to wait til N4 to use his next action after the N1 goof-up? Why did the Virm action happen N3?
You're right. Guess he got a double kill then and since it wasn't a hider night for virm it didn't matter. Might need to take a break from mafia games. Too much school reading going on leading me to skim these games. Can't think of the last time I've made so many mistakes reading write-ups.
He kills two Night 3 yet in Night 5 only targeted one (Stan). Virm not being able to act N3 so he had to have been targeted directly yet Fro dies as well while protecting TraXX?
Hmmm.
Dr. Wily was busy in his lab in Mother Brain's ship. His subject was grateful for all the help Dr. Wily provided.
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Bowser had had all he could stand and he couldn't stand no more. After watching Ganon and Donkey Kong fall he knew he had to act. Bowser lowered the Koopa Keep's drawbridge and stomped out, delivering a mighty T-Rex roar, but cooler and louder because he's a Koopa. King Koopa. Bowser spotted Princess Zelda talking to Toad and thought this was the opportunity he was waiting for. Bowser managed to chase them into a dead end.
"This is perfect! A Toad and a Princess, although truth be told I always pictured this with a different Princess but it won't ruin my fun." Bowser declared.
"Look away Toad." Zelda whispered calmly as she held Toad close to her chest and turned her back to Bowser.
With that Bowser let a mighty fireball out starting slowly on Fro's back and increased the amount of fire, eventually engulfing the entire dead end. Fro let out a mighty scream but staying true to character continued to guard Virm from the flames as long as possible. Both were fried to a crisp, after screaming for mercy but receiving none by Bowser, King Koopa.
Virm has been murdered. He was Toad, Town-aligned Even Night Hider
Fro has been murdered. He was Princess Zelda, Town-aligned Odd Night Healer.
Jarrod said that Virm wasn't getting an action until night 4. The write-up never says that Toad hid.
From the write-up, my suspicion is that Dr. Wily gave Bowser two actions.
If that's the case, yellow would have known who Bowser was after seeing that.
Which means we could be in for a bad night, if Wily is able to do it again.
Reposting so the format is more readable
From the write-up, my suspicion is that Dr. Wily gave Bowser two actions.
If that's the case, yellow would have known who Bowser was after seeing that.
Which means we could be in for a bad night, if Wily is able to do it again
Its interesting to me that this thought is popping up now with a couple folks, after Kev brought it up a while ago.
Grim has forgotten more about game balance than I will ever know, but we're at 28% for scum. Its not less than we've seen previously. There was the neutral.... which was Psych. That seems to be an added role. So when Jarrod drew it up, the ratio was higher. this all seems fairly normal
Additionally, Ganon had day spells. Scum was fairly powerful. Timesplitter did the same "not exactly the same size scum teams" recently, and its not as if we haven't seen this in the past. Without the very strong vig kills on JP and Stan, along with our early on kdestiny, and this game looks a lot different.
We're in a good spot, but given that a bad lynch and additional loss at night would drop the ratios down quickly, focusing on something that appears a bit of a stretch can feel a bit like a bit diversionary from the main hunt.
I hate this post. He goes after the quiet town strategy, which got us Stan. Then he has a bad call-out on HFR, who was copped and several had vouched for on reads.
Anyway.
I’m not sure I’m into passive town being the way to go, but we are in a solid enough position.
That said I’m expecting some sort of character to blow up and take a crapload of people with him like in that Mortal Kombat game.... only because Jarrod clearly likes doing our heads in.
HFR said he could vouch for either Grim, Stan or BBF before but never ended up doing so, did he? Would this be a good time to open that can of whoopass up?
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I regret using the term whoopass already.
The one thing in his favor that I will come back to, is if he is quiet/less active town, the nervousness makes a little more sense. He seemed to soft role-claim a non O/E role, which takes him down to 4 possible town roles on my sheet. One of the roles, I strongly do not believe he is, based on voting (and I do have a strong guess on that one).
Cranky posters seem to favor scum since they have taken a couple blows. Who would complain right now if they were town?
That’s a possibility though the way I was reading things was that Wily starts the process one night then the next night it happens. Night One works in the lab, night two Hippo can kill and rol block so looks like he worked on hippo. Night 3 at work in the lab and perhaps the same night Bowser gets an extra kill. Also Night 4 Hippo kills again. Night 5 Wily works again and Night 6 he does the kill himself (possibly self-targeting) while Hippo roleblocks.
Two possibilities:
1. Hippo might primarily be a roleblocker and Wily is using his inventive skills passing out kills between himself and Hippo to be enacted the following night. Bowser targets one and the other dies due to an unfortunate circumstance.
2. Rotating kill action between Hippo and Wily, who one night gives an extra kill to Bowser the same night and he kills another town with it. It stands out from the rest of his actions though and how would he know to give it to Bowser? Perhaps he got lucky and found him to use him to kill town.
Definitely want to hear more from TS though.
Sorry for being quiet. Been a rough week or so. I had a couple co-workers need to take emergency PTO because their kids caught COVID one week into going back to school. I've been picking up their work on top of my own, which is already enough.
I can see why people would look at me for possible scum. I wish I had info to share, but I don't know anything.
As for being on the suspect list because i've only voted for scum, that is due to timing. Most of these lynches have started and ended while I was sleeping.
I also don't know what to make of all the special abilities in this game. Jarrod has done a heck of a job on turning this game on it's head.
I'll try being more active going forward, but it's already stating to look like a long week. Maybe I need to take the next game off.
Its possible.
So, I've pretty much put all my suspects out there already. If I die tonight, its captured. Unless someone can show me different logic, I would be ok with a lynch on Kev, timesplitter, or grim.
Right now, Kev has given me a testable theory.
I don't think he's capt n, as it would be surprising to me if someone who voted for kangus resurrected him. Maybe someone thinks that's an overagressive read, but that's where I'm at.
That leaves him with 3 possible town roles. I have Badger and Pabs limited within those roles as well. Even if the traitor theory is true, it would have to be one of those roles that turned. the probabilities don't seem in kev's favor, but I'm curious about his soft role claim.
If my reads are right, Grim has one more town role available. I think he's more likely to be yellow than red, but could be wrong completely. Its grim, he's not going to make an obvious mistake
Timesplitter is the same, but I have him as more likely to be red. His claim against being yellow is similar to kev.
As I said, good with these 3 and want to see an action taken. Between them is basically a roll of the dice for me.
Since there hasn't been much voting on the kev train, willing to see what happens if I start on grim. And willing to switch if the group wants to go with either of the others.
vote grim
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ebwop-its possible was to Badger
A good point, and something I advocated lynching HFR for in the Justice League game. Turns out there WAS something strange in that game but that's beside the point
I went back to my lynch last night and noticed that as well. In fact all three of them are smack dab in the middle of my vote train.
That's exactly where I'm at as well with my list. I'm telling you this as I'll bank the game on it: if there isn't at least one yellow between Kev, Grim and T/S then scum absolutely deserve to win.
Agreed. I really don't think its possible for there to be no scum on that list.
Definitely a complex game and muchos credit has to be given to Jarrod for making us think lol!
Someone on the no lynch train could have been the captain. There’s also the possibility of the captain being on the lynch train on purpose so he could revive him for the purposes of him being checked as it was a blind lynch. Jarrod initially hid the alignment then posted the N event of him being saved so maybe that could have had an affect or he posted them separately just to fuck with us.
As far as TS goes, he sounded really sincere there so for now I will lay off him.
It is down to Grim and Kev for me at this point too. It could be either of them in all honesty but I will also buy into your theory with maybe changing my mind later.
Vote Grim
Badger, those are some good insights. Is the N thought something you've had for a while as you've been looking, or more of a speculation after reading my thoughts?
Unvote
Vote: Grim
It’s been at the back of my mind a bit. He had the power to overturn a lynch and he has not been seen since so maybe he thought best to do it right away.
Vote : Grim
I'm still trying to remember everyone's suspect list to see if there are any blindspots. I feel very confident in my definite reads, but a little worried I maybe missed someone in the mid-tier.
Vote Grim
Here is currently where we are, strictly with regard to team mellow yellow, based on fact and gameplay.
1. Pablo Diablo-Not yellow
4. Badger-Not yellow
7. Rip-Could technically be yellow but very low probability
9. TimeSplitter-?
11. Randolph-Vouched for by HFR who himself is not yellow
13. Mazer-?
15. TraXX-Not yellow
16. kangus-Not yellow
18. Mikey Jones-?
19. Peter Griffin-Not yellow
20. Grim-?
21. HHHnFoley_Rulez-Not yellow
23. Kev-?
That reasoning makes it 40% chance that Grim is yellow.
Right now he is at five votes with seven being the majority for a lynch
Had a rethink about a couple of names on mine but still up in the air a bit. Last night we didn’t learn much other than the obvious fact that Bert was the cop and I fucked up a bit on thinking TraXX was the dog.
Hopefully this day and night will reveal more.
Grim is on my suspect list so I'm ok going through with this one. Hate lynching people when they haven't got a chance to say anything once a train starts on them though.
I'm open. Is there a different/ better target?
My inexperience makes it hard for me to read people, so I just kind of fall in line with trains when they happen.
Vote Grim
Vote Count
6- Grim (Mazer. Badger, kangus, Rip, Peter Griffin, Randolph)
It takes 7 votes to reach a majority for a lynch.
https://www.webcountdown.net/?a=rgE5hCh&k=hsMk
Actually if there's second thoughts and I don't like being on the ass end of this train
Unvote
I would've liked if Grim could put forward a defense, but I also have my suspicions.
I am willing to drop the hammer.
VOTE Grim
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Or not
I'm confused, why the 10 minute change of heart this close to a lynch?
Because of Mazer asking for suggestions. He posted that while I was writing my post. I can change it right now back to Grim if there is no one better.
Oh screw it. I don't know what I'm doing.
Vote Grim
Discussion so far has pointed towards Grim, but it would perhaps be fairer to hear his side of the argument again? FWIW I do think he is mafia
I couldn't have better timing and I couldn't look like a bigger idiot right now
Oh well, I wouldn't have it any other way
Vote Count
7- Grim (Mazer, Badger, kangus, Rip, Peter Griffin, TraXX, $!*♡☆)
It takes 7 votes to reach a majority for a lynch.
https://www.webcountdown.net/?a=rgE5hCh&k=hsMk
That is a lynch by my count, as I have just got home.
Write up coming in a bit once I get my house of madness settled.
Oh that’s not good.
Yeah not feeling good about that at all.
I don't wike it...
Its so interesting watching people break down ya posts like there’s more to it than sheer stupidity.
Simple fact for me Mazer is thar as much as I tried to catch up on things to Spreadsheet and follow along, I missed a few posts after being super busy at work and honestly missed what HFR meant as I was speed reading through posts. I can give a laundry list of legitimate excuses but everyone’s busy and I don’t want you lads to think I’m just trying to pull one over by whinging.
As for votes in the middle of trains, there’s also trains I’ve missed... e.g. Grim. That happened while I was sleeping. if you look at the times I post its when I’m posting it should all be consistent with my timezone and really, when I can catch the odd quiet spell (or useless Zoom meeting).
Hey Ryu,
What do me and James Brown have in common?
WATCH ME-If scum kills me, take them out.
For those of you have played turtles with me, I am not bluffing. Take the scum out.
“Hey Breeze, Mega Man, Mario, Link”
“You know what to do!”
Ahahaha! Excellent choice!
I did not expect Cesaro to have a room like that... wow.
Before I'm lynched... Mazer, the ratio you mentioned is only good if it's scum vs town really. Two scum weaken each other and when just about everyone has a power role, scum need to be a lot closer to 33% IMO.
Out of the list of suspects, the crowd settled on Grim and they didn't even wait for him to chime in on the matter. A UWZ had opened and the mad crowd picked up Grim and gave him a big toss into the warp.
Grim awoke to find himself on a Speeder Bike, just starting to accelerate. At first dodging the concrete walls seemed easy enough. Hitting the ramps seemed a tad tricky but Grim adjusted. The bike started to get fast though. Real fast. It was taking his full concentration not to get thrown and splattered across the Tunnel Grim had found himself in.
"A Warp Zone! I just need to mak" |||| Dr. Wily was starting to say to himself before he crashed head first into a concrete wall, crushing his neck like a accordion being pushed in.
Grim has been lynched. He was Yellow Scum's Dr. Wily- Doctor.
Night 7 has begun. You have 24 hours to get your actions in.
https://www.webcountdown.net/?a=rE8PkWf&k=Wucb#pop
Dead Players
2. CWE- Princess Toadstool- EN Healer
3. Stan Accy- Mother Brain- Godfather
5. Virm- Toad- EN Hider
6. Judas Iscariot- Donkey Kong- Roleblocker
8. Caito- King Slender- ON Roleblocker
10. Bert- Luigi- Cop
12. Fro- Princess Zelda- ON Healer
14. kdestiny- Ganon- Warlock Godfather
17. King Diamond- Kirby- Absorber
20. Grim- Dr. Wily- Doctor
22. JP- Eggplant Wizard- (bumbling) Wizard Minion
24. BBF- King Charles- Vanilla King
25. Psycho666Soldier- Pit- Psycho Ex-Soldier
Living Players
1. Pablo Diablo
4. Badger
7. Rip
9. TimeSplitter
11. Randolph
13. Mazer
15. TraXX
16. kangus
18. Mikey Jones
19. Peter Griffin
21. HHHnFoley_Rulez
23. Kev
Last edited by Jarrod1983; September 14th, 2020 at 6:25 PM.
I do wike it!
“Lotta respect! Lotta respect!”
What colour do you want?
Yellow!
Glad to know I didn't Frick something up. I was sweating bullets there.
I'm now very suspicious on Kev due to his post about Mazer ... unless he always talks that way about Mazer.
I too am looking at Kev... Let's see what the write up brings
Hey Kev......
What colour do you want?
I think Kev likes Red
We need an UNO mafia where someone if suspected or lynched can CHALLENGE it!
You lads are cooked.
I'm going bed, I doubt anything exciting will happen tonight
Anyone on your sus list at the moment?
It’s okay mate take your time, we have all night phase. Could mean your goose is the one cooked though.
I loved everything about these posts
FWIW (not much in comparison to grim-who is a brilliant gamerunner), I do agree with Grim. My main point is pointing out the alignment with our previous games.
I'm not sure I hate Kev's post as much as everyone else. He could be frustrated town.
That said, he stays on the high suspect list.
I also now have Badger on my stone cold town list.
Mikey has been downgraded to the suspect list.
When they come for me, Ryu should be able to help get one more. This was the first scum lynch I've really led as a first vote without having dees. Good feeling. This must be the thrill psych and fro chase on day 1.
It’s better when you’re right, everyone disputes you and you’re proven right.
That’s the high I chase every game
And you have mastered it. Unless you're scum, and then everyone just believes you.
How does a scum doctor work?
When I ran my game, it was the same as a town doctor except if they protect their fellow mafia from a town kill, I would’ve written up the target in the character name so not to give it away.
So we’re down to how many now?
12 players
1 red scum (3 to start with, I'm still cautious)
1 yellow scum (4 to start with)
I have got everything in but just got to work and looking like a busy day. I will get write up done tonight.
Now that Grim was shown to be yellow, I'm happy to drop the idea that Grim/Badger were mafia teammates.
Kangus,
How's your red possibility list looking?
With everything already in, only hoping scum have not spoiled my birthday tomorrow. If they have then fair play scum for being scum!
Maybe you are scum.
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Lol
Worst comes the worst I am getting drunk while CWE has to wait and be jealous.
Mazer if we assume Bowser is not a godfather then the following people are clear;
HFR and by extension Randolph.
Possibly Mikey Jones although that's only if Bowser did target him night one. It's not exactly clear.
Peter Griffin
Pabs
If Bowser is a godfather then all bets are off.
Well never mind as ol' kangus didn't read the part where kdestiny was the red godfather.
JARROD POSTS SO FAR
End of Day One/Start of Night One (bonus Kangus surviving)
Results of Night One/Start of Day Two
End of Day Two/Start of Night Two
Results of Night Two/Start of Day Three
End of Day Three/Start of Night Three
Results of Night Three/Start of Day Four
End of Day Four/Start of Night Four
Results of Night Four/Start of Day Five
Results of Night Five/Start of Day Six
End of Day Six/Start of Night Seven
Results of Night Six/Start of Day Seven
End of Day Seven/Start of Night Seven
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Red GF has already been revealed...
I'm at a very similar place.
Not sure from the write-up if Bowser acted N1 or not. Bowser has only been active on odd nights, however he has only killed on 3&5. The flavor seems to be Ganon casting the spell so not sure how to interpret.
From the pre-game write-up, I had put Bowser as the gf in my sheet, but the Ganon was revealed. I think it makes sense not preclude the dual GF possibility. Good way to power up scum.
If he;s not a godfather, its
Timesplitter
Kev
Traxx
Mikey (depending on d1)
as my list
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I was kicking around your dual godfather theory. Nevermind then......
Dual GF would actually make sense in terms of balancing the teams as well, which wasn't something I had previously considered. If that is the case, then people previously cleared by investigation are possibilities.
Dual red godfathers would be particularly nasty. However I'm still, night results pending, undeterred from Kev/TimeSplitter.
Those are definitely my priorities as well.
I have Kev a little more likely to be yellow, and timesplitter a little more likely to be red.
Fingers crossed for good night play.
It could be the mafia community's birthday gift to Badger.
Judging by his timings, I’ll at least have 2-3 hours birthday life before Jarrod gets this up and I may or may not plague the dead chat with my nonsense.
Either way is good.
If those guys are the remaining scum and you hunt them out then yeah a great birthday gift.
I could be very wrong here but I do not think TimeSplitter is guilty. He explained his circumstances and BBF did the same. I think for now unless the dog has tracked TS in his night action and found out otherwise might be best to leave him alone.
Come on Jarrod
HFR
Traxx
Griff
kangus (just feels scummy)
The reds were more powerful ‘characters’ but I still think there might be a twist
It’s 4:40pm in his timezone I think so likely still working. Give him time.
HFR and Griff were already cleared by Bert/Luigi.HFR
Traxx
Griff
kangus (just feels scummy
The reds were more powerful ‘characters’ but I still think there might be a twist
Don't give a fuck let's get to scum hunting
Double GF could mean they aren't "clear", to be fair to Rip.
I agree with the Kev/TS/TraxX line of thought for tomorrow though
Rip just hates on me though.
We've been through this; I'm town.
Hey TraXX.....
What colour do you want?
Pabs, can you turn invisible off so I can cyberstalk jarrod more effectively?
Ha. Don't do it Pablo! Just got the baby down.
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