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    Wanted to look through the sheet once more, and I want to see Wardy flip


    That April is a sexy, independent woman. God bless her for not listening to the directions to target me, and for some reason watch badger.



    Unrelated, I strongly feel the need to say hello to wardy and timesplitter.


    And I really feel like I can confirm teethjx's being metalhead.

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    Thank you for the info. It won't go to waste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWE View Post
    Ebwop you're
    You didn't need to ebwop this. Your misuse of the word didn't effect our ability to understand you're sentence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    Wanted to look through the sheet once more, and I want to see Wardy flip


    That April is a sexy, independent woman. God bless her for not listening to the directions to target me, and for some reason watch badger.



    Unrelated, I strongly feel the need to say hello to wardy and timesplitter.


    And I really feel like I can confirm teethjx's being metalhead.
    Thank you.

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    My favorite April was always a redhead

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    I'll EBWOP whatever the fuck I want. Got it?

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    so I'm on board obviously but have you guys thought through who is the best to target strategically? if we finish off red mafia might we have one fewer kill role in use?

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    What a shitty night. I'm all for voting Wardy but figure we have 48 hours so no need to rush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    so I'm on board obviously but have you guys thought through who is the best to target strategically? if we finish off red mafia might we have one fewer kill role in use?
    Agreed. I have a read. And I'm not sure who Mousers are.


    Kill wardy.

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    Always knew I liked you Mazer

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    That’s how you do it for future reference, no pissing around nice and clear

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    I felt a little bad for keeping throwing you out Badger, and calling it on me for watcher. But, I figured we were the two most likely, and I didn't know if they might split or worry that going for you was too obvious.

    I was hoping I could pull all the targets on you.

    And you still lived. Makes up some for the other hits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wardy View Post
    Vote TEETH
    Your gun ain't big enough...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    I felt a little bad for keeping throwing you out Badger, and calling it on me for watcher. But, I figured we were the two most likely, and I didn't know if they might split or worry that going for you was too obvious.

    I was hoping I could pull all the targets on you.

    And you still lived. Makes up some for the other hits.
    All is forgiven.

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    Vote wardy

    Good Lord

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    Vote wardy

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    GAME EVENT INCOMING

    PLEASE HOLD

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    What did virm do now?

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    It’s covid-19, wardy is going into self isolation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rip View Post
    It’s covid-19, wardy is going into self isolation


    when I woke up this morning, I had three gigs this weekend. They all have cancelled, partially due to that bullshit.

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    GAME EVENT


    Casey Jones battled with himself over the events that had just occurred. He felt like he had betrayed someone he looked at like a brother, and then couldn’t even budge to prevent his death. He was on the verge of giving up...but he knew that’s not what Raph would want. He thought of his wishes before he died, and was ready to move into action...until something knew popped up. Suddenly, everything became so clear, including his target.


    TimeSplitter had no clue what hit him, but the hockey stick that had taken out an ally before crashed right into TimeSplitter’s spine. This forced him to the ground, leaving him in a massive amount of pain. He slowly turns around to see the vengeful eyes of Casey peering at him through his hockey mask. “Pleeeee-e-e-e-e-eeeaassse! Give me one moooooooore chance!”


    Casey lifts the mask up so he can see the painful look in his eyes. “I think you’ve had enough.” He brings the hockey stick right down across Baxter Stockman’s face, nearly splitting it in half from the impact.


    TimeSplitter has been killed. He was Baxter Stockman, Mafia-aligned Jack-of-all-Trades.


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    The phase continues. With 10 players left, it takes 6 to reach majority. Roughly 45 hours remain.


    LIVING PLAYERS
    3. wardy
    6. Badger
    7. Mazer
    8. CWE
    10. Jarrod1983
    12. TEETH
    14. Fro
    16. Caito
    17. Rip
    19. Kev


    DEAD PLAYERS
    1. Honey_Badger - Donatello, Doctor
    2. kangus - The Rat King, Ascetic
    3. Grimario - Super Shredder, Strongman
    4. Stan Accy - Krang, Godfather Brainwasher
    5. JP - ???
    6. virmicious - Rahzar, Twin JOAT
    7. Pablo Diablo - Leatherhead, EN Roleblocker
    8. Kneeneighbor - Michelangelo, ON Roleblocker
    9. kdestiny - Venus, Suicidal Bomber
    10. HHHnFoley_Rulez - C.O.W.-Boys of Moo Mesa, JOAT
    11. Jordo - Raphael, Mason Vigilante
    12. TimeSplitter - Baxter Stockman, Jack-of-all-Trades

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    5 - wardy (CWE, Mazer, Rip, Badger, TEETH)
    1 - TEETH (wardy)
    Last edited by Psycho666Soldier; March 12th, 2020 at 1:27 PM.

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    Thanks Casey!

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    Well that worked out nicely.

    Casey Jones was always a beloved character.

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    Good job Casey.


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    Can someone please hammer now?

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    Vote Wardy

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    What a lovely turnaround!

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    6 - wardy (CWE, Mazer, Rip, Badger, TEETH, Caito)
    1 - TEETH (wardy)

    And that is a lynch! Write-up incoming.

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    Nice! Yeah, didn't want to rush but seems like we have Wardy dead on.

    Vote Wardy.

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    Not necessary Jarrod.

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    Everyone should give an updated reads list. So town is all on the same page.

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    DAY FIVE

    The heroes had seen enough. Three turtles down, two at the hands of the savage beast known as Tokka. With the Mousers control now gone, their attacks were less focused, making it easier to focus on other things. While Tokka proved a somewhat greater threat than his partner, it wasn’t long before the entire group was able to wrestle him down into a pinned position.

    “Someone, quick, zap him with that gun!”

    Caito was on it, taking the gun and aiming it right at the mutated snapping turtle. With a blast of rings, wardy is shrunk back down to a regular snapping turtle, which may still hurt, but is a much more containable threat.

    wardy has been neutralized. He was Tokka, Mafia-aligned Twin Jack-of-all-Trades.

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    It is now Night Five. You have 24 hours to submit your roles.


    LIVING PLAYERS
    6. Badger
    7. Mazer
    8. CWE
    10. Jarrod1983
    12. TEETH
    14. Fro
    16. Caito
    17. Rip
    19. Kev

    DEAD PLAYERS
    1. Honey_Badger - Donatello, Doctor
    2. kangus - The Rat King, Ascetic
    3. Grimario - Super Shredder, Strongman
    4. Stan Accy - Krang, Godfather Brainwasher
    5. JP - Turtle Van, ON Motivator
    6. virmicious - Rahzar, Twin JOAT
    7. Pablo Diablo - Leatherhead, EN Roleblocker
    8. Kneeneighbor - Michelangelo, ON Roleblocker
    9. kdestiny - Venus, Suicidal Bomber
    10. HHHnFoley_Rulez - C.O.W.-Boys of Moo Mesa, JOAT
    11. Jordo - Raphael, Mason Vigilante
    12. TimeSplitter - Baxter Stockman, JOAT
    13. wardy - Tokka, Twin JOAT

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    Mouser possibles

    Kev
    Fro
    Rip
    Jarrod

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    Quote Originally Posted by wardy View Post
    Kind of hope Badger dies now.

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    End game here guys, keep it steady and we’ve got this.

    I’d have loved a Rolecop to have checked Teeth just for peace of mind though.

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    So anyone else noticed who’s been quiet since we lost JP?

    We’re closer than we think here unless I’ve counted wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Not necessary Jarrod.
    Yeah, I'm on lunch break in BK drive thru and saw the game event and Mazer's request of someone to drop the hammer. I'm a day late and a dollar short like most things in life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caito View Post
    Mouser possibles

    Kev
    Fro
    Rip
    Jarrod
    co-sign

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    co-sign
    2 of those 4 are all the remaining scum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWE View Post
    2 of those 4 are all the remaining scum.
    Two from three please, I’m as green as carrot tops

    And I still don’t trust you and Teeth

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    You’re right. I totally forgot Bebop and Rocksteady

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    Hold the phone.


    Jp's role was updated. He was the van.

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    Presumably because his killer died?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    The one time St Johnstone will beat Celtic this season.

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    So why so cautious on the whole Teeth business CWE? If there was nothing to hide then why so furtive?

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    Damn, could’ve sworn he wasn’t...


    then again the guy I originally thought was the van turned out to be a different townie.


    So wtf do I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caito View Post
    Damn, could’ve sworn he wasn’t...


    then again the guy I originally thought was the van turned out to be a different townie.


    So wtf do I know.
    Yeah mate, your colours are pretty good but the roles are off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caito View Post
    Mouser possibles

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    it aint me babe.

    I would guess Jarrod and Kev

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rip View Post
    So why so cautious on the whole Teeth business CWE? If there was nothing to hide then why so furtive?
    I've been straight forward telling all town to ignore TEETH. And I said he had nothing to do with JP's role being hidden.

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    I got a little lazy in posting the write-ups in the first post of the thread. Everything should be there now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    I got a little lazy in posting the write-ups in the first post of the thread. Everything should be there now
    Cheers, I love that and use it often

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rip View Post
    So why so cautious on the whole Teeth business CWE? If there was nothing to hide then why so furtive?
    Teeth and CWE are not the enemy.

    If you don’t trust them, please trust me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Teeth and CWE are not the enemy.

    If you don’t trust them, please trust me.
    Fair enough, CWE has just been über sketchy over the interaction

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    How? By repeatedly telling everyone to look for threats? If/when Metalhead becomes a problem, we know who it is. Yet certain people keep going after him with no info other than my read. Until Mazer found out who he was, all anyone had to tie him to Metalhead was a drunk person's read.

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    Have we established how the Baxter drain worked? Does the power come back after that time period?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rip View Post
    Fair enough, CWE has just been über sketchy over the interaction
    Understandable to be initially suspicious of a non-town like Metalhead. I initially thought the same way as you but ever since Stan/virm thought to look the other way. Also wardy being permanently locked on him without giving much thought to other people gave him away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    Have we established how the Baxter drain worked? Does the power come back after that time period?
    I think he has multiple abilities, like a yellow JOAT thing. Jarrod could vote at the time he was targeted but little else which makes me suspicious like a scum on scum block. Pablo was poisoned and died though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    I think he has multiple abilities, like a yellow JOAT thing. Jarrod could vote at the time he was targeted but little else which makes me suspicious like a scum on scum block. Pablo was poisoned and died though.
    I couldn't vote. I tried in post #651 and it came back with an error message in post #653. It's not me you're looking for sir.

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    I remembered that. And Badger could vote. The variety of the JOAT is interesting gameplay.



    Psycho should be commended on how these came together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrod1983 View Post
    I couldn't vote. I tried in post #651 and it came back with an error message in post #653. It's not me you're looking for sir.
    Just a musing. In big games like this you have to explore every possibility.

    Also yes Mazer, the thought that Psycho put into this is incredible. Twists, turns, nooks and crannies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Just a musing. In big games like this you have to explore every possibility.

    Also yes Mazer, the thought that Psycho put into this is incredible. Twists, turns, nooks and crannies.
    No problem. Happy to follow your musings. Just saying it's off here.

    I'll join in and say loved the game. Crazy to think you can keep this all organized Psycho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrod1983 View Post
    No problem. Happy to follow your musings. Just saying it's off here.

    I'll join in and say loved the game. Crazy to think you can keep this all organized Psycho.
    Who’s your suspicions on at the moment Jarrod? I know you like to follow what other guys say but would like to hear what you think given what’s gone down given the events today.

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    EBWOP post not vote Jarrod. That’s what I meant to say earlier.

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    jarrod was vote-blocked by yellow scum on night 1, I could easily see that being a case of scum targeting their own team member

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    still not scum

    also Me and the fam flew to Bali yesterday which is why I’ve been a bit inactive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Who’s your suspicions on at the moment Jarrod? I know you like to follow what other guys say but would like to hear what you think given what’s gone down given the events today.
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    I would say this is my order. I do follow more like you mentioned but this feels right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrod1983 View Post
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    I would say this is my order. I do follow more like you mentioned but this feels right.
    Damning accusations. Would like to hear Rip’s opinions on this.

    Also what about the theory that you were blocked from voting deliberately by Baxter?

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    In some ways, Jarrod is the hardest to read here. He does play the same low exposure way each time. Consistent in both settings. But I'm not seeing any town points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Damning accusations. Would like to hear Rip’s opinions on this.

    Also what about the theory that you were blocked from voting deliberately by Baxter?
    I didn't think much about it. I took it as Fro musing like you were earlier Badger about my (before the edit) ability to vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrod1983 View Post
    I didn't think much about it. I took it as Fro musing like you were earlier Badger about my (before the edit) ability to vote.
    Despite the vote/post wording mix up on my part, it is a theory worth thinking about.

    However enough of that for that. Why put Rip first just out of interest?

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    For a day that started with a turtle massacure....everything since then has been fantastically entertaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrod1983 View Post
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    I would say this is my order. I do follow more like you mentioned but this feels right.
    I get accused of being scum all the time due to my playing style, despite the fact that I’m equally belligerent on either side, as I keep saying I’ve not been investigated or checked yet, there’s zero evidence I’m scum, because I’m bloody not.

    I’ve been on every bloody scum lynch and I’m happy to admit to going hard after Teeth and CWE which I know is causing some wobbles but I’m of the option if you ain’t Town you’re an enemy so I’d much rather vote neutral than risk it, and I’m always pro lynch over no lynch which I know can rub people the wrong way.

    My thoughts are to look to the shadows, there’s some very, very quiet players around and that’s classic scum play, the loudest and the quietest and we’ve had both in this game.

    I still worry about Teeth, wish we had a Rolecop to find out what he is.

    And I still say CWE is playing off type

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    shit.

    massacre not massacure.


    If it was a massacure, I could apologize to HFR.


    but eh. casualties of conflict and whatnot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Despite the vote/post wording mix up on my part, it is a theory worth thinking about.

    However enough of that for that. Why put Rip first just out of interest?
    It seems like people have been suspicious of Rip for a bit. Rip's continuous TEETH objection feels like deflection to me. Seemed like Rip is the new Wardy. I could be wrong though.

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    Redid a sheet...

    Rip
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    2 scum
    1 town

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    Wait why is CWE clear? Just wondering

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    Because town can trust me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWE View Post
    Because town can trust me.
    So you’re saying you’re not town?

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    But forreal tho Caito mazer I just don’t see why cwe isn’t on the potential yellow List but I could be missing something

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    But forreal tho Caito mazer I just don’t see why cwe isn’t on the potential yellow List but I could be missing something
    This is your call at the end of the day, but you should trust him and I’ve helped get rid of three red scum.

    There are two yellows in front of you (I don’t mean myself and him) that are attempting to pull the wool over your eyes.

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    There’s an awful lot of ‘just trust me’ floating around, and getting swallowed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rip View Post
    There’s an awful lot of ‘just trust me’ floating around, and getting swallowed
    Yea I am skeptical of CWE feeling like he’s about to pull off a yellow or pink win here. But Caito and mazer didn’t have him on their list so I’m trying to figure out why.

    I don’t trust this pink team of lotjx and badger. Badger was the first player to get successfully recruited by metal head yea?

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    Leonardo's allegiance didn't change. And if Metalhead found a turtle, that's a good thing.

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    These roles are fun and should preclude too much certainty.

    I look forward to seeing where the night takes us. If I die before I wake, avenge me Slash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    Yea I am skeptical of CWE feeling like he’s about to pull off a yellow or pink win here. But Caito and mazer didn’t have him on their list so I’m trying to figure out why.

    I don’t trust this pink team of lotjx and badger. Badger was the first player to get successfully recruited by metal head yea?
    I’ve mentioned how I’ve helped with scum. Let me try and explain it another way.

    Who else was hard on TEETH? wardy. Who admittedly wished I’d died as well as being hard on TEETH? wardy. Who is dead? wardy.

    Who else is being hard on TEETH and is still alive? I’ll let you figure that out.

    You trust Mazer don’t you? Ask him what he feels about me though he already explained it.

    Connect the dots Fro.

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    I believe JP is watching this with mounting frustration right now.

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    Depending on the role the info on neutral players can be dodgy, that’s why I wish we had a Rolecop

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazer View Post
    I believe JP is watching this with mounting frustration right now.
    I think the gin is close to killing his brain cells right about now. Dead chat will be a fun read.

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    Something is off here, but I can’t put my finger on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caito View Post
    Something is off here, but I can’t put my finger on it.
    Rip and Jarrod are at it.

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    Finish your roles folks. We still have valuable roles with only two spots to eliminate. If we play smart, we should be able to get this.

    We just live or give the remaining 2 mafia sufficient leverage to get the win.


    But no pressure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caito View Post
    Something is off here, but I can’t put my finger on it.
    agreed. i mean we're in good shape but its good we're using this night phase to keep up the discussion.

    but why wasnt CWE on your mouser list? that's what I'm trying to figure out

    and I'm just pointing out , and as always correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the write up read that Badger is the first person who accepted metalhead's friendship? I'm not saying we should act on that at this moment but I feel like we kinda have ignored it so far. badger had a different reaction to metahead than JP and CWE

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    No. CWE was approached first

    - - - Updated - - -

    And because I’m pretty sure I know who he is.

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