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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    So I'm a bit disappointed more people haven't jumped on Kotre's train on me. I had been waiting to comment to see who would jump on the train and only Badger and BBF have joined.

    Not as disappointed as me, Chas.


    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    His logic is completely sound. It's not right because there are still assumptions he's making, but considering we don't have anything to go on it's surprising more people didn't jump on it.


    Now the key assumption being made is that what happened was CWE was killed because he's a weak neighborizer. I wouldn't say that is a common role in mafia but adding the weak modifier isn't too uncommon. But I can't recall a time we've had a neighborizer in one of our mafia's before. At least I've never been in one so forgive me for not knowing when I was reading it on my phone.

    Get to the point.


    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    Now what could be another explanation for what happened last night? Strongman killer.

    You think Chas Finster, THIS GUY:




    Timid, wheezy, asthmatic Chas Finster is the Mafia Strongman? Bull fucking shit. Psycho's previous mafia game had very strong, sensible theming. So has this game. Susie is one of two characters that can speak to adults and babies. Of course her ability centres on communication. Chuckie is a fucking coward. Of course he's a hider (I called that before the game had really started). Chas Finster being a strongman can be discounted right the fuck now. We also have zero reason to believe that Tommy targetted anyone. He pulled out his screwdriver, yes but that can easily be flavour to justify Chas taking it away to symbolise a one-shot bulletproof being used.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    I think my biggest issue with your assumptions Kotre is that you're assuming the scum wouldn't use a kill.
    I have literally said the exact opposite, but continue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    If they had a killer with the ability to one-shot a strongman, one-shot a ninja (which is a type of killer that we commonly see in our games) why wouldn't they do all they could (including using their one-shot strongman kill on someone that people were strongly considering giving immunity to) on the first night? Eliminating a strong town is always a good move if you're sure it could go through. This would then result in CWE and Jarrod still dying.
    Read. My. Fucking. Post. Pablo. You. Guilty. Motherfucker.

    I'll quote the relevant bits here for you so you don't have to scroll up:

    Quote Originally Posted by Kotre View Post
    Chas performs an action on Tommy. Therefore he by the rules of the game could not have killed Susie and Chuckie through his own action that night. The only plausible explanation for this is that Susie's action earlier in the night triggered her death. She targeted Pablo, and was killed by Chas. This is not rocket science.

    ...

    Separately, Chaz targets Tommy with his night time action. I believe this to be the Mafia kill (making Chaz's role the Mafia Killer). Tommy pulls out his screwdriver and loses it - representing him losing his one-shot bulletproof passive.
    In fact I said the first fucking time I accused you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kotre View Post
    OK, hear me out here. Chas got three people last night. Tommy, Susie and Chuckie. Chuckie doesn't count because he was hiding behind Susie who got killed. Going by how previous Mafia games have worked, a character can only take one action per night. If someone wields the Mafia kill, they can't also use their other roles. So how does Chas target Susie for a kill and Tommy for a vanilla shot?

    He didn't. Mafia pros, what generally happens if a neighboriser tries to live next door to a Scumbag? If it works like a cult, it fails and the potential neighbor dies. If Chuckie hides behind a character that dies, he also dies. That means Chas is still free to use his action to attempt to kill Tommy. I guess it's possible for him to have vanillaised Tommy instead, but that means no targetted Scum kill happened. From experience, bad play so I don't buy that two games in a row.

    Vote: Pablo.
    I never said that the mafia passed on their kill. I have said, and I will say it again. You, Pablo Diablo who has the role of Chas (Mafia Killer) tried to kill Tommy. You failed. Because he was/is bulletproof.

    Your defence hinges on Mafia having Swiss Army killer, and Tommy targeting either CWE or Jarrod. This is not how Psycho sets up his mafia:

    Southpark: GF/Silencer/Rolecop, roleblock, 2-shot doublevoter, vanillaizer, killer

    TMNT: GF (doublekill gimmick if he's the last scumbag left), Roleblock, Killer

    TMNT 2: GF/JOAT, Roleblock, Killer

    Scooby Doo: GF, Roleblock, Silencer

    ARE YOU GETTING IT NOW! Psycho's scum are set up that most members have powers or kill. He doesn't do Ninjas, he doesn't do strongmen. The only likely person with multiple, limited use powers (eg alternate nights or only able to use each power once) is the godfather.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    I don't have a better target. JP is still possibly Drew, but Drew could also be a godfather so even investigating him might not give us the info we need. It doesn't appear we had anything give us a clear answer. Yes we lost two, but losing three isn't going to put us into a better position yet. We haven't lost any of our strongest power roles yet. We aren't dead in the water yet.

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    If I wasn't sure you were guilty before, I sure as fuck am now. You defending JP only makes me more suspicious of him. Smells of scum defending scum to me.

    VOTE FOR PABLO JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

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    I swear to god if we get a no lynch today I am going to go mental.

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    I’m impressed with your commitment here. You’re still wrong. But I’m impressed.

    Also how is that defending JP? I said he wasn’t clear you daft fool.

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    You’re also bringing up previous mafia games Psycho as run as a clue for what rules he’ll use. Ignoring that he’s already made big changes with night talk being allowed. That he’s used a neighborizer for the first time.

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    Now, if Tommy had targeted Jarrod, it would have been mentioned in the write-up as doctors can’t target hiders by definition. So we have to presume that Tommy targeted CWE, but for some unknown reason failed. Chas COULD be a strongman, after all, he’s competing with babies and toddlers.
    Kotre’s case for the prosecution is compelling enough, but I’m not ready to hang Pablo without a bit more information first.

    Vote No Lynch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    I’m impressed with your commitment here. You’re still wrong. But I’m impressed.

    Also how is that defending JP? I said he wasn’t clear you daft fool.
    It's taking his line of reasoning 'but who did Tommy target' and presenting it as valid despite the fact that it looks like he never targeted anyone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    You’re also bringing up previous mafia games Psycho as run as a clue for what rules he’ll use. Ignoring that he’s already made big changes with night talk being allowed. That he’s used a neighborizer for the first time.
    Yeah the problem with that defense is that Psycho has set up his Mafia similarly in this game with there being three clearly identifiable roles out of four scumbags. Slight rule differences and not using the same roles every time are not indications that he has changed his style of game running at a macro level.

    If you make it through this round, well fucking played to you but a colossal fuck up from Town.

    I can't wait for psycho's breakdown at the end of this game

    Quote Originally Posted by Stan Accy View Post
    Now, if Tommy had targeted Jarrod, it would have been mentioned in the write-up as doctors can’t target hiders by definition. So we have to presume that Tommy targeted CWE, but for some unknown reason failed. Chas COULD be a strongman, after all, he’s competing with babies and toddlers.
    Kotre’s case for the prosecution is compelling enough, but I’m not ready to hang Pablo without a bit more information first.

    Vote No Lynch
    Answer me this, why would Chas be a strongman when Betty DeVille is an option and she literally used to be a professional wrestler. It just doesn't work thematically.

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    3 - Pablo Diablo (Kotre, Badger, BBF)
    3 - No Lynch (kangus, Pablo Diablo, Stan Accy))

    5 hours left. It takes 7 for majority

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    Guys, we have 5 hours. Time to shit or get off the pot. Pick a side and vote.

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    Kotre you're such a potty mouth. But a convincing potty mouth.

    Vote Pablo

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    I don’t even think kotre is scum. If he is. He’s an MVP level of scum.

    It’s the wrong conclusion he’s made is all.

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    Cewsh is Angelica. JP is Drew. Calling it right now.

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    Also, we just need 3 more to lynch Chas.

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    I've been traveling and have been trying to catch up.

    I do think Kotre has been a bit wild here but he does present some solid points, but Pablo bringing up the possibility of a strong man throws a wrench into things so

    Vote No Lynch

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    There is nothing pointing to Tommy being the doctor or there being an unsuccessful save!

    And thematically and by the way Psycho has run games in the past it being a strongman kill is unlikely

    Come on! We're letting the scum get through this without doing anything to stop them!

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    I'm not wholly convinced by the Strongman argument. Kotre was perhaps overly passionate but still poked massive holes in it like it doesn't fit Chas plus the Tommy defence from Pablo was too weak.

    It looks like this is going to go to a No Lynch at this rate. If other townies want to remain cautious and wait for more info then I guess we just have to go with that. If something happens to anyone of us that voted for Pablo then the rest of town shouldn't need any more info.

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    4 - Pablo Diablo (Kotre, Badger, BBF, wardy)
    4 - No Lynch (kangus, Pablo Diablo, Stan Accy, kdestiny)

    1 hour left.

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    Any last minute voters?

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    4 - Pablo Diablo (Kotre, Badger, BBF, wardy)
    4 - No Lynch (kangus, Pablo Diablo, Stan Accy, kdestiny)

    With no majority reached, that's a No Lynch!

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    Chuckie and Susie do as they're told, though exchange the occasional glances and almost risk saying something, but both are too worried to risk further punishment from the adults. They let out a heavy sigh, hoping the others will have more success.

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    It is now the Night Two! You have 24 hours to turn in your roles.

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    I'm not angry, just disappointed.

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    I haven't played this game as long as others, but town caution at this early stage is somewhat understandable so I'm chilled. We just gotta hope we use our protective roles well and whoever goes down will hopefully makes things clearer.

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    So, what's everyone's preferred strategy for success in these things?

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    I really hope that Scum chat had a fucking melt down today. I'd like to think I spooked them.

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    I don't think anyone's going to give away strategies although night chat is allowed, it's a cautious game with everyone keeping their cards close to their chest.

    Although I'm fairly new and maybe not the right person to critique you, in my book you showed great fire today.

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    I was more thinking, who's a spreadsheet nerd etc. Because fuck keeping track of all that shit.

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    It's more interesting trying to work it out how everyone plays. I think the phrase "If you have to ask, you'll never know" may apply here.

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    Sorry for being quiet guys, visiting my best mate, been awake for 42 hours now, I am about to enter a coma. Love you all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP View Post
    Sorry for being quiet guys, visiting my best mate, been awake for 42 hours now, I am about to enter a coma. Love you all.
    Sleep well.

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    Just to be clear, we lost this game when you lot gave JP immunity. We can play this out, but it’s inevitable.

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    OK, but why though? Who do you have JP pegged as?

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    He’s bullshitting, it’s that simple.

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    Or, he's Angelica.

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    Unless Angelica’s night role is flawed, and that he randomly told the entire game that he was simply here to oppose me, no he’s not.

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    For Cewsh to declare before any investigation he’s either just being Cewsh

    Or...

    He has a special win condition that requires removing JP

    Or...

    He’s a Joker our to paint a mahoosive target on his own back.

    I’m leaning to option one.

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    Everyone got their bacon rolls in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Everyone got their bacon rolls in?
    Delicious

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    I am in hell.

    Remember me.

    Cewsh is lying or wrong.

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    NIGHT TWO

    When the moment was right and most of the adults were outside, Kimi climbed on top of Phil’s shoulders, and Tommy carefully made his way up to hers. They sway and battle balance as Tommy tries reaches for the screwdriver on the shelf. He just barely snatches it in his hand when Phil loses his balance, and all three of them tumble to the ground. They shake off the daze as Tommy has a firm grasp on the screwdriver. “Next time, I won’t fail like I did with Susie.”

    Phil slowly gets to his feet from the fall. “But Tommy, aren’t you escared of the growed-ups catching you?”

    Tommy slips the screwdriver into his diaper and marches with purpose. “A baby’s gotta do what a baby’s gotta do.”

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    Angelica was also taking advantage of the mostly empty house, running amok with a bottle of chocolate syrup and squirting it everywhere in the kitchen. She cackles evilly as she finishes up her mess, before seeing that Didi was coming back in. “Uh-oh…better find a skategoat.” She looks into the living room and immediately sees Kotre nearby. “Here, you should have this.” Angelica hands Kotre the chocolate syrup, and before Kotre can figure out why, she pushes him into the kitchen and into the chocolate mess. She runs away to the bathroom to clean up as Didi opens up the door and gasps in shock. “KOTRE! What have you done?!”

    This grabbed everyone’s attention. Lil, Kimi, Lou, Drew and Betty all come running into the kitchen. Lil tries to figure out what Kotre did, while Kimi runs up behind him, seemingly hiding but hoping to give him support. Drew takes the opportunity to see what Kotre can do, while Betty, much like everyone else, makes sure that he won’t be doing anything more than he’s already done. Didi walks up to Kotre, nearly seething as she sees the mess ruining some of the food she had prepared. She’s ready to pick him up and put him in the playpen, but then she finds herself unable to carry out the task. “I guess I got most of the food outside already…” She sighs as she picks him up and starts walking towards the bathroom. “Alright, let’s get you cleaned up and let you off with a warning.” Everyone goes back to what they were doing as Lou laughs and dusts off his hands, happy that he didn’t have to protect the children this time.

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    Day Three has now started! JP no longer has immunity. With 13 players alive, 7 is the majority.

    You have 48 hours.


    Living Players
    1. Kotre
    2. Rip
    3. Badger
    4. Stan Accy
    5. Pablo Diablo
    6. kdestiny
    7. JP
    9. wardy
    10. Kneeneighbor
    12. BBF
    13. Virmalicious
    14. Cewsh
    15. Kangus

    Dead Players
    1. CWE - Susie, Neighborizer
    2. Jarrod1983 - Chuckie, Hider

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    So...anybody learn about Kotre?

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    You dumb motherfuckers actually fucking did it.

    I'll give you my thoughts in a second. But first

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    Now who do we lynch first?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    When the moment was right and most of the adults were outside, Kimi climbed on top of Phil’s shoulders, and Tommy carefully made his way up to hers. They sway and battle balance as Tommy tries reaches for the screwdriver on the shelf. He just barely snatches it in his hand when Phil loses his balance, and all three of them tumble to the ground. They shake off the daze as Tommy has a firm grasp on the screwdriver. “Next time, I won’t fail like I did with Susie.”

    Phil slowly gets to his feet from the fall. “But Tommy, aren’t you escared of the growed-ups catching you?”

    Tommy slips the screwdriver into his diaper and marches with purpose. “A baby’s gotta do what a baby’s gotta do.”
    Confirmed: Tommy is bulletproof. He got targetted by the mafia night one. He's not the doctor. You DUMB motherfuckers. I was right.

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    Angelica was also taking advantage of the mostly empty house, running amok with a bottle of chocolate syrup and squirting it everywhere in the kitchen. She cackles evilly as she finishes up her mess, before seeing that Didi was coming back in. “Uh-oh…better find a skategoat.” She looks into the living room and immediately sees Kotre nearby. “Here, you should have this.” Angelica hands Kotre the chocolate syrup, and before Kotre can figure out why, she pushes him into the kitchen and into the chocolate mess. She runs away to the bathroom to clean up as Didi opens up the door and gasps in shock. “KOTRE! What have you done?!”
    OK, that's interesting. Looks like Angelica's gimmick is that she can redirect the mafia kill, and in this case, she put it on to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    This grabbed everyone’s attention. Lil, Kimi, Lou, Drew and Betty all come running into the kitchen. Lil tries to figure out what Kotre did,
    Lil looks to be a rolecop to Phil's regular cop. Again, possible EN to his ON.

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    while Kimi runs up behind him, seemingly hiding but hoping to give him support.
    No fucking clue what that means.

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    Drew takes the opportunity to see what Kotre can do, while Betty, much like everyone else, makes sure that he won’t be doing anything more than he’s already done.
    This is interesting. It confirms that the Mafia WEREN'T actually dumb enough to kill me because I identified Pabs as being a member of the mafia. Betty stops me from doing anything, Drew finds out what I can do. But because of what happens next, they wasted two actions. Because...

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    Didi walks up to Kotre, nearly seething as she sees the mess ruining some of the food she had prepared. She’s ready to pick him up and put him in the playpen, but then she finds herself unable to carry out the task. “I guess I got most of the food outside already…” She sighs as she picks him up and starts walking towards the bathroom. “Alright, let’s get you cleaned up and let you off with a warning.”
    Didi tries to kill me but lets me off with a warning. Look at this, then read one of my first posts: from before roles were sent out, you can probably guess who I am and what my ability is because I was bang on the fucking money.

    Note that Didi did the killing, meaning that the mafia passed up on using her investigatory role because they assumed Pabs would get roleblocked by Spike.

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    Everyone goes back to what they were doing as Lou laughs and dusts off his hands, happy that he didn’t have to protect the children this time.
    Lou is our doctor. Not Tommy. There was no unsuccessful doctor save.

    Tommy is bulletproof.

    Pablo is scum

    VOTE PABLO

    Like you should have done yesterday.

    I am fucking laughing so fucking hard. YOU SHOULD HAVE LISTENED.

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    Still cry laughing about how many people targetted me.

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    Vote Pablo.

    To be fair...Kotre did tell you all.

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    He's probably the lowest power mafia man but I think the people that defended him have given us some good leads for investigation.

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    Really BBF is who you guys should be going for.

    And when you see how wrong your are Kotre you're going to be embarassed how adamant you were about being wrong.

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    Actually hold up. how is the first thing you quoted proof that Tommy is bulletproof? if anything that proves he's the doctor. I'm not going to fail again like I failed with Suzie. How does that make him bulletproof?

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    Also you have some other things you've misread. Angelica appears to have directed ALL actions onto you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    Really BBF is who you guys should be going for.
    Give me one good reason why? Seriously, I would love to hear that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    And when you see how wrong your are Kotre you're going to be embarassed how adamant you were about being wrong.
    Given we know Tommy is Bulletproof and NOT the doctor and therefore could not have targetted anyone and disproved your theory about a strongman killer, why on earth should anyone believe you are not Chas, Mr Finster?

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    But I do agree Lou has a saving role. Could be doctor, could be bodyguard. But sure just run with your assumptions that everything you say is right.

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    The reason why I think BBF should be looked at is because he was the second to join your lynch on me. The scum typically wont' be the first or second to join a train. But the third one to join and get momentum swinging is often a scum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    Actually hold up. how is the first thing you quoted proof that Tommy is bulletproof? if anything that proves he's the doctor. I'm not going to fail again like I failed with Suzie. How does that make him bulletproof?
    1) Because we know Lou is the doctor

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier View Post
    Everyone goes back to what they were doing as Lou laughs and dusts off his hands, happy that he didn’t have to protect the children this time.
    2) Tommy saying he won't fail again was flavour.

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    Also you have some other things you've misread. Angelica appears to have directed ALL actions onto you.
    Oh, then that is just a hilarious power. Wonder what its limit is.

    I do wonder how you know that Drew and Betty originally targetted different people though, but it can be inferred from the text now I look at it again.

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    Just to make sure everyone is aware of the reason....its time. The reason is time. Not the best scum deflection tbh.

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    Everyone goes back to what they were doing as Lou laughs and dusts off his hands, happy that he didn’t have to protect the children this time.

    That is NEVER how a doctor role is written.

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    It always says WHO the doctor targets

    You're ignoring clear facts of the game because it doesn't suit your narrative.

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    I would vote for you if you so clearly weren't scum because of how you're leading everyone astray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotre View Post
    I do wonder how you know that Drew and Betty originally targetted different people though, but it can be inferred from the text now I look at it again.
    That is definitely a way to know that things were re-targeted. If only we could read through everything and not make definitive assumptions.

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    Well done by all.

    Vote Pabs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    Everyone goes back to what they were doing as Lou laughs and dusts off his hands, happy that he didn’t have to protect the children this time.

    That is NEVER how a doctor role is written.

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    It always says WHO the doctor targets

    You're ignoring clear facts of the game because it doesn't suit your narrative.
    Congratulations on finally making a valid point. Only issue is that if we're assuming Lou is not the doctor and Tommy is (and his save failed because strongman) , it's also not stated that Tommy targeted anyone.

    If we're going by the first two nights' writeups we have to assume there is no doctor. Or we can take what Psycho said - communicating that Lou was in position to protect someone (presumably me due to Angelica) from death but it wasn't needed. The most likely role for that is Doctor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    That is definitely a way to know that things were re-targeted. If only we could read through everything and not make definitive assumptions.
    That sentence wasn't entirely serious. I was more intending to imply you know because you saw Drew give the final order. But yeah, a total redirect makes more sense than blocking and rolecopping me.

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    What was well done?

    The only thing we've learnt from that last phase is that Kotre is clear of being all scum and Angelica except for Chas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotre View Post
    Congratulations on finally making a valid point. Only issue is that if we're assuming Lou is not the doctor and Tommy is (and his save failed because strongman) , it's also not stated that Tommy targeted anyone.

    If we're going by the first two nights' writeups we have to assume there is no doctor. Or we can take what Psycho said - communicating that Lou was in position to protect someone (presumably me due to Angelica) from death but it wasn't needed. The most likely role for that is Doctor.
    That does make sense, but your name was mentioned for when everyone else got directed onto you. I'm not definitely saying Lou is not a doctor. But from the way the game is written. With Tommy having a screwdriver. And being "dead" being put in the playpen. I see the screwdriver as the way to save someone from being put in the playpen. But I admit I'm also not as sold on it anymore because we haven't seen a clear Doctor target so far.

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    One night and we’re back in the game. Nice.

    Vote: JP

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    Also, Pabs is for sure scum.

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    Cewsh, we can only kill one this round. If we try and get two lines going we run the risk of getting neither of them. Can you give us a good reason to go for JP rather than Pabs?

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    Does anyone have a clue what Kimi might have done?

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    Preventing roleblocks is one guess. But hard to say at this stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotre View Post
    Cewsh, we can only kill one this round. If we try and get two lines going we run the risk of getting neither of them. Can you give us a good reason to go for JP rather than Pabs?
    Oh no. By all means lynch Pabs. Don’t mind me.

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    Why not join the train? If you agree that Pabs is scum and likely to be lynched, why keep your vote on someone that's not going to go down this round?

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    I’m not sure he can, Cewsh?

    Vote : Pabs

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    Has to be something to do with his role.

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    Userper is generally a third party role, and the only one of those we have is Angelica, and she has her own thing going on, so I'm disinclined to think it's her.

    So, I'm going to say off-brand Lyncher. Only one of those characters that fits is Grandpa Boris. He's sleepy so he can only vote for one thing. I'm not 100% on that, but if that's it, the lynched is probably Didi.

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    I'm not sure if Boris quite fits with that theme. Boris is sleepy whereas Cewsh has been very active and loud against JP.

    I did see something about an accuser role so it could be that. Here's a link:

    https://town-of-salem.fandom.com/f/p...02164975249664

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    Well if I'm going down. I still say BBF is the one who should go down after me.

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    I'll even go as far as to

    Vote BBF

    So that people can see who my last vote is for.

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    Also I hope when Kotre gets proven to be wrong that he'll think twice next game we play.

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    Oh and also for people to remember that he is our most cleared. But he's still not completely cleared as he could be Chas.

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    Seems pretty clear cut.
    Vote Pablo.

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    Takes 7 for majority.

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    Also keep note of people who didn't vote for me. Frankly if I was on the outside I'd vote for me because Kotre makes a convincing argument. And because of how things shook out I can't say anything that will clear me. There's nothing I have to give you. So with Kotre's argument it makes sense. People who wouldn't be voting for me, are people who don't want to be suspicious because of joining a town lynch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo View Post
    Also keep note of people who didn't vote for me. Frankly if I was on the outside I'd vote for me because Kotre makes a convincing argument. And because of how things shook out I can't say anything that will clear me. There's nothing I have to give you. So with Kotre's argument it makes sense. People who wouldn't be voting for me, are people who don't want to be suspicious because of joining a town lynch.
    If you're asking us to watch the non-voters, then why did you not vote for one of them yet vote for BBF? His place in the lynch queue seems a pretty weak reason.

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    Because there are many who didn't vote for me. Some because they haven't come in. Some because they know they don't need to put themselves under suspicion. But a lynch train never fully takes off at this stage without some scum speeding it on.

    You and BBF are the only two who joined Kotre the first time. So its one of you two that's likely the scum. I think the one who joined later the first time around, BBF, is the more likely scum.

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    Rest assured Pabs I am definitely not scum. Though I joined second on each train that's merely coincidence. I've been doing all I can for the town to pick the scum out.

    For example kangus. I won't go over the JP reasoning again as that's been done to death but I feel kangus has slipped under the radar somewhat but he's caught my eye. He was against CWE getting immunity, went for no lynch and defended JP because he doesn't want to spill blood this time. Of course we can look at him later.

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    I think we’d be somewhat remiss not to check JP at this point.

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    Phil should get on that tonight.

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    Just a heads up that if you guys hammer, I won't be able to end the phase proper until later tonight. So if you hammer and you don't hear from me, that's why.

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    Vote Pablo

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    Soz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotre View Post
    Confirmed: Tommy is bulletproof. He got targetted by the mafia night one. He's not the doctor. You DUMB motherfuckers. I was right.



    OK, that's interesting. Looks like Angelica's gimmick is that she can redirect the mafia kill, and in this case, she put it on to me.



    Lil looks to be a rolecop to Phil's regular cop. Again, possible EN to his ON.



    No fucking clue what that means.



    This is interesting. It confirms that the Mafia WEREN'T actually dumb enough to kill me because I identified Pabs as being a member of the mafia. Betty stops me from doing anything, Drew finds out what I can do. But because of what happens next, they wasted two actions. Because...



    Didi tries to kill me but lets me off with a warning. Look at this, then read one of my first posts: from before roles were sent out, you can probably guess who I am and what my ability is because I was bang on the fucking money.

    Note that Didi did the killing, meaning that the mafia passed up on using her investigatory role because they assumed Pabs would get roleblocked by Spike.



    Lou is our doctor. Not Tommy. There was no unsuccessful doctor save.

    Tommy is bulletproof.

    Pablo is scum

    VOTE PABLO

    Like you should have done yesterday.

    I am fucking laughing so fucking hard. YOU SHOULD HAVE LISTENED.
    Quoting this because hubris is life.

    Trust the game runner. Night One, Tommy did not target anyone. Neither was he targeted by anyone, as we would have seen the targeting (character to player).

    This is simple shit.

    For this many people to be on this lynch based on not understanding the mechanics of the game they’re playing is hilarious.

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    I’m not gonna call you guys dumb motherfuckers, as that’s a bit rude.

    Bit guys, come on, this is absolutely ridiculous.

    You have rushed through what essentially boils down to a random lynch as the reasoning behind it is flawed.

    Just because someone shouts the loudest doesn’t mean they are right (it’s like raaaaaiiiiiiiiinnnnn).

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    Psycho is here! Hopefully we can lynch this mofo before I go to sleep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP View Post
    I’m not gonna call you guys dumb motherfuckers, as that’s a bit rude.

    Bit guys, come on, this is absolutely ridiculous.

    You have rushed through what essentially boils down to a random lynch as the reasoning behind it is flawed.

    Just because someone shouts the loudest doesn’t mean they are right (it’s like raaaaaiiiiiiiiinnnnn).
    We've got nothing else so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wardy View Post
    Psycho is here! Hopefully we can lynch this mofo before I go to sleep.

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    We've got nothing else so far.
    That doesn’t mean you lynch somebody on a lack of basic knowledge of game mechanics.

    Pabs might actually be scum, but if he is it’s pure luck.

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    I'm fine with that. We should have more to go on after the next night phase.

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    Basically I feel we can afford to take a risk at this stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP View Post
    That doesn’t mean you lynch somebody on a lack of basic knowledge of game mechanics.

    Pabs might actually be scum, but if he is it’s pure luck.
    Not really pure luck. Pabs being scum is the only explanation for Susie and Chuckie dying, so there's that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotre View Post
    Not really pure luck. Pabs being scum is the only explanation for Susie and Chuckie dying, so there's that.
    That’s so far from true it’s having to send a postcard to say hello.

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    So, who targeted Susie to kill them and why would it be attributed to Chas in the write up?

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    Gin time JP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotre View Post
    So, who targeted Susie to kill them and why would it be attributed to Chas in the write up?
    Because Chad targets Susie. You literally explain what happened in your question.

    Is this a wind up?

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    Y'all just want a reveal, don't ya?

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    Yes please.

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    7 - Pablo (Kotre, Badger, BBF, Knee, Rip, Stan Accy, wardy)
    1 - JP (Cewsh)
    1 - BBF (Pablo)

    That’s a Lynch!

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    DAY THREE

    Everyone slowly gathers around Pablo Diablo, seeing what they perceive as the guilt in his eyes. He stands up proud, knowing that his time has come. “I’m not escared of what you’ll do to me! I know Tommy, my brother, and everyone else will save you from yourselves!”

    While all the children heard her words and were moved, to the adults, Lil was just throwing a fit and desperately needed time out. She was promptly put into the pen.

    Pablo Diablo has been lynched. He was Lil DeVille, Town-aligned EN Tracker.

    Living Players
    1. Kotre
    2. Rip
    3. Badger
    4. Stan Accy
    6. kdestiny
    7. JP
    9. wardy
    10. Kneeneighbor
    12. BBF
    13. Virmalicious
    14. Cewsh
    15. Kangus

    Dead Players
    1. CWE - Susie, Neighborizer
    2. Jarrod1983 - Chuckie, Hider

    3. Pablo Diablo – Lil, EN Tracker


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    Night Three has begun! You have 24 hours to send in your roles.

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