Just in case….
Vote CWE
Just in case….
Vote CWE
Actually I have another idea too.
Either there is a trick character somehow, or one of us is actually a traitor.
My theory.Originally Posted by Caito
Then who it is...
Which is why...I want to hear from everyone.
I suspect that it’s similar to the Mrs Rogers/Wat character in Ghostbusters. One of us is a traitor. I’ve been going back through the write ups and I suspect it’s c”Randolph” because that character’s actions are the only ones that frequently hindered town. Once I get off work this evening I plan to go through and spreadsheet (again) the remaining characters to be sure who I think is who.
cRandolph is [PLAYER REDACTED].
I would be curious to know which character you guys think is likely to be the traitor? I feel like it’s going to be based on the character and not the player. I don’t know everyone as well as some of you guys do, though. Out of the remaining characters, who is someone that you were surprised to see have a town alignment?
cKdestiny
cLDG
cPablo
cRandolph
cVal
4 of these 5 characters have appeared as green in the last 2 nights I believe.
The other...the prophecy
You know….Randolph has been surprisingly quiet this past phase (while the rest of us have been expressing weary frustration. I’m willing to change my vote later if convinced, but for now…
Vote: Randolph
Which character do you want to vote for? Rank them please.
Top 3?
And that question applies to everyone.
Basing it on what? Performance during this game or based on my limited observation of the character’s namesakes in other games?
Not players. Characters in the game.
cKdestiny
cLDG
cPablo
cRandolph
cVal
Rank this on rhe I want to kill scale.
Based on what they do at night.
cRandolph
cVal
cLDG
cRandolph
cLDG
cVal
But I'm wondering if my suspicions on Randolph were correct
They are not. I don't know where you can see me doing anything suspicious in any action. I have been picking up extra work due to there being no snow and yesterday was my one day off. It's cliche, but it's the truth. As far as who I suspect, God if I know. I spent the last day phase, or two days ago these day phases go so fast, reading through the votes and night actions, but that's on the two guys who are now dead. I didn't pay attention to anyone who Tildey said was innocent.
Kind of funny how the two guys named in the title of this game are still alive
This is what I was thinking. That sumbitch would pull a Xanatos move like that.
And I didn't live this long just to die now, especially from some damn twist ending.
And I've never been a traitor in a game and I'm not talented enough to pull it off this successfully
This would assume that if you were the traitor that you knew you were the traitor the whole time. I did some reading and found out that sometimes the traitor doesn't find out they're the traitor until all scum have been taken out.
Why is it in every game when I post, everyone runs away? They don't respond until the next morning when I'm not around, and it makes me look bad.
I'm still here. I don't think I'm who you were hoping to be around, though.
I am not the traitor. And the traitor not knowing it wouldn't be Mazer's style.
And since all scum is taken out, I think I would've found out by now. Nor has there been anything involving me that would indicate I have been turned.
I think we need to go back and check what every surviving character has done and see if there's anything that would indicate they've been turned.
That’s one of the things I was pointing out about c”Randolph” - that of all the remaining players his actions have been the least helpful for town. What other character actions have you seen that have been unhelpful or less helpful for town?
So you're gonna go after a guy with the least helpful role? I don't understand how that gets you the traitor.
The only other evil I could imagine is Val as a JOAT who is saving the shot for the last kill.
Vote Randolph
Cwe (1)-caito
Rando (2)-tildey, cwe
Jesus Christ, I am not the traitor. I was never turned.
Before we do anything stupid, we should look at all the night actions of surviving players and characters and list them.
So why haven’t you done that? You keep saying what “we” ought to do but when asked for specifics about character actions, your thoughts, or alternative theories all you come back with is that it’s not you.
I am working, but sure, I will try. I am surprised you weren't already doing that.
Characters:
kdestiny -
“I’m a mod dammit! It’s time to lay the law down” Kdestiny was determined to show he was the mod of all mods. He needed to make an example of someone. He found Psych. “Listen here guy. You’re not going to be playing here for a minute. But don’t worry. I won’t let you get negged either.”
Kdestiny looked over at Blind Ninja. He was still a little pissy from another Bears loss, but this was again mitigated by thinking about their 2023 salary cap situation. His mixed mood manifested itself again. “Look here buster, you need to take a little bit of a breather. But also I respect you as a unique individual”
Also, kdestiny took a lot of comfort out of the Patriots loss. Fucking dumbasses. the NFL was too embarrassed to even allow for video links.
Kdestiny looked around. There they were. Another troll poster. “Val. Val. Val. Now you’ve had 3 warnings. You left me no options bud. Let’s think about this tonight, and protect Christmas tomorrow. How does that sound?”
Kdestiny found LDG. He talked to her for a bit. “Listen LDG…..that demon is preeeettty scary don’t you think? I think you do think that. I think that you think you should think about that. Or something. TIMEOUT! And also can someone find us a passrush?”
Kdestiny cursed as he turned the game off. Why could nobody make a fucking tackle? Another fucking text. He decided to vent on CWE. He spent all going off with CWE, and the intensity kept everyone away.
Kdestiny was still bitter and really just worried about the draft. But he knew someone would be sending him annoying texts. Once again, he took his frustrations out on someone. And so he sat with kdestiny and ranted. Kdestiny was a good listener for kdestiny during this intense period.
As he did, kdestiny saw him. “Well this is very rude! Can you not see I’m trying to have a conversation with this man? Get fucking bent”
Listo also got a visit from kdestiny. He wanted to talk as well. Bitter rants about the last time we had the number 2 pick in the draft ensued, and even passing celebs feared to interrupt.
LDG -
Pablo -
Pablo went up to 3puppies. “Listen son. I’ve seen what you’ve done around here. You’ve got heart, and I like it. But we need more than this. CHRISTMAS NEEDS YOU….MAYBE NOW MORE THAN EVER. AND I CAN’T HAVE ANYTHING LESS THAT YOUR BEST! ALL YOUR SWEAT! ALL YOUR TEARS! EVERYTHING IN YOUR HEART! LET’S GO!”
Pabs sought out Caito "Caito, when I left the modship ....I knew you would be the one to replace me. AND THAT WOULD PREPARE YOU! YOU WOULD BE THE ONE TO LEAD US TO THE PROMISED LAND! AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED FROM YOU.....NOW! DON'T GO CHASING WATERFALLS! YOU CAN FEEL ST. ELMO'S FIRE BURNING IN YOU!"
Randolph -
Randolph was down for all this Christmas stuff. But he also thought everyone was taking it a bit serious. He soon handed a voidkitten a series of 1678 homemade cookies carved in the shape of Badger. After voidkitten was gorged on sugar, he was very susceptible.
While Val was going to the bathroom, Randolph snuck on his computer. After downloading deepfakes of Mrs. Claus and Hulk Hogan onto his laptop, Val was definitely on Santa’s naughty list.
Rando decided that talking had obviously got too serious and away from the joy of Christmas. So he thought Badger needed to lighten it up some.
Randolph was getting serious too. He looked at Badger and said “You know what? You deserve to have your voice magnified”. He set Badger up with some automatic retweets
Val -
Val was really excited about the Crusaders’s plan. He just wanted to make sure he had a good piece of it. What if in addition to the Kringle Crusaders, there was a sub-faction called Hermes’ Heroes to spread Christmas Cheer through proper dentistry? Val figured LDG would love his plan, and kept her enthralled with his pitch.
Val was really excited about the concert. He had may a powerpoint on how his dentist troop could really benefit the celebrities. He had heard about Grae’s dentistry skills and though he could benefit from his 252 slide presentation
Val knew that with all the wrappings, it was his time to step into a Leadership role. So he tracked down Badger and spent all night laying out his plan for leadership.
Val found Rando and made sure that he fully thought about his actions. His marketing talents could make Val’s new subcult, the Dentist elfs of Destruction the biggest pro-Christmas force the world had ever seen.
None of this pressure got to Val. He found listo and told him about how he could use cue cards to make sure everyone got the message. The compelling plan kept listo busy all night.
In the midst of the action, Val found Caito. He talked to him all night about how finding shelter presented all kinds of exciting things to discuss.
Players:
tildey -
kdestiny - Kdestiny thought back warmly to the times he had spent conversing with his friends here. He often would drink hot chocolate with them as he discussed all the recently performances he had attended. Sadly, he did not realize that Morrison had snuck and set extra time on the microwave as he was warming his hot chocolate. He burnt his tongue as he was thinking about those times. Cursing his misfortune, he vowed never to see those shows again.
3 Puppies loved this season. Christmas coupons were the best of all coupons. He had once again calculated the probabilities on a laptop he got for $14.82 and set off after kdestiny
caito - From there, Grae found Caito and made sure that he spend all night at the bar with him, listening to all his stories about why he shouldn’t feel so bad about the Patriots, and also provided him with him some more ideas about he could taunt Bears fans.
Pabs sought out Caito "Caito, when I left the modship ....I knew you would be the one to replace me. AND THAT WOULD PREPARE YOU! YOU WOULD BE THE ONE TO LEAD US TO THE PROMISED LAND! AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED FROM YOU.....NOW! DON'T GO CHASING WATERFALLS! YOU CAN FEEL ST. ELMO'S FIRE BURNING IN YOU!"
In the midst of the action, Val found Caito. He talked to him all night about how finding shelter presented all kinds of exciting things to discuss.
cwe - 3puppies wasn’t as worried about all this cheer stuff. He wanted to know what made the Scrooges tick. He consulted his sheet, and decided that he would see what CWE was up to. He got out the trusty magnifying glass ($.57) and disguise kit ($6.34) and went to work.
randolph - Val found Rando and made sure that he fully thought about his actions. His marketing talents could make Val’s new subcult, the Dentist elfs of Destruction the biggest pro-Christmas force the world had ever seen.
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Of all the characters, LDG is the only one who I could not find any actions for.
Of all the players, Tildey is the only one who I could not find any actions for.
hmmm...
The only thing I see missing from your list is when cRandolph placed the conflict post restriction on myself & MTR.
Give me some credit, I am doing this on the road.
Who do you have for LDG?
This was the only c”LDG” action I could find
Oh I give you full credit. I could not have put that post together as quickly as you did and definitely not on my phone.
Tildey can't answer that question.
AKA
Tildey is LDG. It's why I was so sure Tildey was town a get days ago.
A few not a get.
What the hell did I type for my phone to auto correct to get? Jesus...I must be drunk.
I figured that when she didn't answer, but confirmation helps.
So, not a lot of actions during the night for her or her character. And by this point, everyone is town in some way, but something has either happened to someone or someone was never a true good guy to begin with. Is it the quietist person during the night actions, like Tildey, or could it be someone who has been less talky in the game during the day, like kdestiny.
I looked at his latest posts and they are mostly talk during the night phase for the questions Mazer asks or just to plop down a vote.
I haven't looked much at CWE and Caito, but doing all this crap right now is not easy.
Caito hasn't been adding a lot of weighty posts since December 20th himself. Quick posts and votes and not a whole lot more.
I'm spitballing here though. I don't know who the hell the turncoat could be. I would reckon it isn't the characters who acted more nights than not. I don't see really any night action that would hint towards a heel turn. LDG & Tildey's minimal actions at night scare me more than kdestiny or caito's lower post count.
One thing that stands out for me re: pKdestiny is that weird night action on N4 by c”Morrison” with the hot cocoa and the vow of never doing those things again with his friends.
Can anyone look at KDestiny's voting record to see how he acted after that night action took place? Unless we want no more discussions, I do suggest CWE or Tildey pull back on their vote. Some of you guys have been waaay too quick to lynching the last couple day phases.
Well, that’s probably not a bad thing considering who got lynched the last couple day phases….
I can look it up after work so it will be a few hours still. I always welcome participation/discussion so I’m willing to pull my vote for now.
UNVOTE
It's not about who got lynched, it's about who can get booted because they didn't get a chance to vote in time. And this isn't really one of those times to do a quick vote
I think he was agreeing with you that it would be a good idea to review kdest’s votes & pull back the current votes against you.
I interpreted it as the ends justified the means, because of who we nailed the last two day phases.
I was not agreeing with him at all. I thought it was a weird comment to be like “guys we can’t go to fast like we did the last couple day phases, look what happened”. Ummmm, we got the bad guys and thought we ended the game…. The comment would’ve been fine if we lynched townies, but we didn’t.
Cwe (1)-caito
Rando (1)- cwe
Fair enough. Apologies for the misrepresentation.
For my part, as much as I want this over, I also don’t want to make a mistake (since that just drags it one another phase). So in that vein, I’m absolutely willing to participate in more discussion (as long as discussion is going to take place & people are going to bring thoughts to the table).
And with two votes cast against him but only three needed to hammer I can understand Randolph’s request for someone to pull back their vote if the plan is to discuss other options.
especially if the other person to be discussed could easily come in & hammer to stop said discussion.
I possibly could have been eliminated because I couldn't vote fast enough, but whatever, doesn't matter now.
Voting history, as requested @Randolph
I went ahead and color-coded scum that have been voted out and then I color-coded all of our names blue.
D1
Sleep (6) - Grae, Pablo, Randy, Diva, LDG, Jarrod
Caito (4) - Claws, Tildey, Foxxi, Psych
Claws (3) - MTR, VK, Future
Kdestiny (1) - CWE
CWE (1) - Caito
Badger (1) - PG
LDG (1) - BN
D2
PG (7) - Randy, MTR, VK, Val, Jarrod, Future, Psych
Jitters (6) - 3pups, Grae, Kdestiny, Pablo, BN, Listo
Jarrod (2) - Badger, Claws
MTR (1) - CWE
CWE (1) - LDG
D3
Morrison (12) - Grae, 3pups, Badger, Foxxi, Future, Kdestiny, LDG, VK, Tildey, Randy, CWE, Claws
Grae (2) - BN, Caito
3pups (1) - Pablo
D4
PG (10) - VK, Badger, Claws, Randy, MTR, Caito, Grae, Jarrod, Kdestiny, Future
Val (5) - 3pups, BN, Listo, Foxxi, Tildey
Kdestiny (1) - CWE
3pups (1) - Val
D5
Val (7) - VK, Listo, Claws, Kdestiny, Jarrod, Tildey, Foxxi
VK (5) - Badger, MTR, Randy, Grae, Caito
Listo (1) - CWE
D6
VK (7) - Badger, MTR, Randy, Caito, Kdestiny, Jarrod, Void
Val (4) - Listo, CWE, Foxxi, Tildey
Jarrod (1) - Grae
D7
Val (5) - Badger, Randy, CWE, Kdestiny, Caito
Jarrod (3) - Tildey, MTR, Grae
Caito (1) - Listo
D8
Jarrod (5) - CWE, Listo, Badger, Caito, Jarrod
MTR (1) - Tildey
D9
MTR (4) - Tildey, CWE, Caito, Listo
Listo (2) - Randy, Kdestiny
D10
Listo (4) - Tildey, Kdestiny, Listo, CWE
Damnit. I missed some D1 Votes. Here's the correction:
D1
Sleep (6) - Grae, Pablo, Randy, Diva, LDG, Jarrod
Caito (4) - Claws, Tildey, Foxxi, Psych
Claws (3) - MTR, VK, Future
Foxxi (3) - Kdestiny, 3pups, Listo
3pups (1) - Badger
Kdestiny (1) - CWE
CWE (1) - Caito
Badger (1) - PG
LDG (1) - BN
Randy (1) - Val
Other than my shitty vote on Peter (c'mon, that guy didn't participate and did nothing to defend himself), is there anything you are getting out of these votes?
I'll be honest - I suck at vote pattern analysis. I don't get out of it what others seem to. I just agreed to do the vote gathering because you put in the work to gather the night actions.
Well, then you have a really crappy choice to make. I can't really defend against being called a traitor in a damn twist ending, but neither can anyone else. Vote me out and you will have to make that decision again on the next day phase. Kdestiny hasn't really chimed in a lot, but I could be wrong about him. I really don't know who it could be. Maybe it is supposed to end with Caito and CWE and that would piss me off if this was somehow predetermined. It's probably not, but it's a hell of a coincidence that those two guys are still alive.
I'm not screwing around anymore.
Vote KDestiny
And I got nothing from the voting patterns either. Forgot to mention that.
Vote Caito
This is essentially just going on pure reaction to the last few days. Go for me if you want, but I'm pretty much at a loss otherwise.
What has happened the last few days that makes you think caito?
Okay, I've re-read the write ups a stupid number of times at this point looking for any hint that Mazer might have dropped for the traitor. The only thing I can find is the N4 action between pKdestiny & cMorrison and I don't see anything in the voting patterns to give me pause.
Vote: Kdestiny
Pretty sure that was flavor for a roleblock?
I thought so too at first. But none of the other role blocks implied effects lasting longer than that night. Its the "he vowed never to see those shows again" that gives me pause.
I'm open to any other hints that you may be able to find. I feel confident that they must be there. I just don't think @Mazer would throw in a Town Traitor and not drop a single hint in any of the write ups.
@kdestiny
Was that a block or something else that happened to you?
Unvote
Let me back off the “him or me” theory that caused me to vote CWE. Admittedly, probably not real and the traitor theory has more merit to it and is much more likely. I still really really don’t like Randolph right now. And I kinda regret not voting him earlier to end the phase. With that said, I think the flavor argument against kdestiny is a little weak, but I can see the argument that Mazer built in a tell somewhere. He is a bit of a bastard game runner. So, I’m willing to try it on one condition…..
I can’t help but notice that the person submitting kdestiny as the potential traitor is Randolph. If I vote for him here, and he flips green….. just know now you ain’t doing shit tonight Rando.
Vote kdestiny
Hope y'all are right...I just don't see it.
Okay, I don't like how you two jerkwads are setting me up as a Fall Guy if this goes south. I said so myself that I have absolutely no idea who the traitor might be. I didn't expect people to follow suit this morning.
Caito is acting weird going on a tangent when he knows there is no strong evidence on anybody. God, I don't like any of this
I reread it and there aren't two jerks, just Caito. Caito is giving himself a nice little insurance policy for the next day phase, if it's needed.
What tangent? I said a few days ago I was suss on you, but we came to a collective to vote MTR (which was the right choice). Then we immediately took out Listo. Two pretty clear wins. Then when we had an opportunity to lynch you, you complained we were going way too fast like the last two votes…… the last two successful votes. I should’ve voted you right then and there. Now, we have agreed to lynch someone else, someone whose name YOU put forward….. and I am somehow the one acting strange?
This smells like someone who knows they need a couple of mislynches, may have gotten one and is trying to set up another. You should’ve stayed quieter.
That's a hammer
Rando (1)- cwe
kdestiny (3) - rando, tildey, caito
caito (1)- kdestiny
With the storm raging like never before concertgoers, organizers, and celebrity endorsers from both groups were forced into a local High School to find shelter.
From there the tensions rose.
Fights broke out. Candy canes were thrown at people. Even mistletoe couldn't save anyone.
In a violent haze, the wrapping paper came out. And even the storm didn't mean Val had the words taken right out of his mouth.
Kdestiny has been wrapped up
He was Val - Town roleblocker
Current Christmas Characters
1. Tildey
2.caito
3. cwe
4. Randy Randolph
Wrapped up in a bow
Psych-Claws/Town Mason Vigilante
Jitters-Jarrod/Scum Killer
Morri-mtr-scum roleblocker
DivaSmurf-Foxxi Town Cop
Pablo-Future-TOWN ON-Watcher
Peter-Caito-Town Captain (1x bp variant, 1x vampire)
Blind Ninja-Town Mason Vigilante
3puppies-Voidkitten Town Hider
Future-Tildey Town EN Watcher
Claws-Psycho-Town JOAT
LDG-DivaSmurf Town EN Delayed Motivator
Vk-Morrison Scum JOAT
Foxxi-Listo Town Doc
Val-CWE Scum Godfather
Grae-Peter Griffin-Town ON Tracker
Jarrod-Grae-Scum Back-up
Badger-3pps Town EN Tracker
MTR-Blind Ninja Scum aligned non-voter SK
Listo-Jitterman Scum JOAT
kdestiny-Val Town RB
Begin Night 11
Last edited by Mazer; January 7th, 2023 at 1:43 PM.
Tonight's topic
Best seasonal candy. This is open to all holidays
Zombie posting encouraged.
Most iconic? Candy canes.
Best? Peeps or Cadbury eggs.
Chocolate. As long as there's no nuts in it or caramel.
Reese's Christmas trees
Peppermint schnapps
Andes Candies (the mint ones are iconic. Peppermint is okay).
I get these every year around this time.
I would also argue most iconic (and controversial) is candy corn.
Candy corn is disgusting.
I agree with you, but its one of the most iconic and infamous seasonal candies.
Candy corn is delicious you heathens. Now Autumn Corn? That shit is disgusting.
It tastes like chalk.
No one is going to agree with me, but Queen's Chocolate covered cherries. They're like Cadbury eggs, that also have cherries inside. Failing that, Cadbury creme eggs, specifically the mini ones.
Halloween candy
Easter chocolate is a close 2nd
Most Easter chocolate is wax garbage.
Because CWE didn't specify which. I'm going to say Cadbury Creme Eggs.
Cadbury Creme eggs are disgusting.
I love chocolate covered cherries. I can’t get on board with Cadbury Crème Eggs, though.
I love all of the shapes Reese’s. Trees, eggs, pumpkins….
Agreed. Cadbury Caramel Eggs are where it’s at, though.
Anything Reese’s is the best of course
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