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Thread: Caito Saves Christmas Mafia: Caito's Kringle Crusaders vs. CWE's Scrooge Society

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    Well I am pretty sure at this point all three of are going to say we are not Jitters.

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    Way I see it is I know I’m town. My biggest unknowns are Tildey, MTR, and Rando.

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    Does anyone have any thoughts on what was going on with cRandolph's action on pBadger? Up until now all of cRandolph's actions have resulted in Post Restrictions. If this action would have been the same, I wonder what the motivation is of a town player targeting another town player (because the consensus has been the pBadger was town for a while now) with a post restriction. Especially when he was one of the few highly active players trying to figure things out. Why not target one of the unknowns from any of the lists that were last circulated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tildey View Post
    Does anyone have any thoughts on what was going on with cRandolph's action on pBadger? Up until now all of cRandolph's actions have resulted in Post Restrictions. If this action would have been the same, I wonder what the motivation is of a town player targeting another town player (because the consensus has been the pBadger was town for a while now) with a post restriction. Especially when he was one of the few highly active players trying to figure things out. Why not target one of the unknowns from any of the lists that were last circulated?
    Wording makes it sound like his voice would matter more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Listo95 View Post
    Way I see it is I know I’m town. My biggest unknowns are Tildey, MTR, and Rando.
    Tildey is town. 90% sure I xane name thier character.

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    Can name

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    Quote Originally Posted by Listo95 View Post
    Wording makes it sound like his voice would matter more.
    Ok. I can see that. How would that mechanic work? Would he get like an extra vote or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWE View Post
    Tildey is town. 90% sure I xane name thier character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tildey View Post
    Ok. I can see that. How would that mechanic work? Would he get like an extra vote or something?
    That would be my assumption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tildey View Post
    Does anyone have any thoughts on what was going on with cRandolph's action on pBadger? Up until now all of cRandolph's actions have resulted in Post Restrictions. If this action would have been the same, I wonder what the motivation is of a town player targeting another town player (because the consensus has been the pBadger was town for a while now) with a post restriction. Especially when he was one of the few highly active players trying to figure things out. Why not target one of the unknowns from any of the lists that were last circulated?
    Because Randolphs and Badgers are natural enemies, like cobras and mongooses. Their whole point in living is to kill the other, no matter if they are a threat or not. Like Englishmen and Scots! Or Welshmen and Scots! Or Japanese and Scots! Or Scots and other Scots! Damn Scots! They ruined Scotland!

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    Yeah I think they were trying to give Badger another vote or something to help town out.

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    What are you guys thinking for voting strategy this phase? My thoughts are to try to identify Jitters for the yeet and make sure everyone votes to keep everyone safe from the SK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tildey View Post
    I just want to recap my thoughts...

    I feel like we have a general consensus on the following player/character pairings...
    pVal = c"CWE"
    pBadger = c"3pups"
    pCaito = c"kdest"
    pGraeham = c"Peter Griffin"
    pJarrod = c"Graeham" or c"Jitters"

    From a spreadsheeting standpoint, the remaining players could be almost any of the characters not listed above with a couple of exceptions.
    Neither pMTR nor I can be c"Randolph"
    pCWE can't be c"Graeham" or "c"Blind Ninja"

    Before her death, pFoxxi had shared reasons that she felt like pListo was at a minimum not scum based on his D2 voting. She conceded that c"Blind Ninja" was a possiblity but that she felt fairly certain he was town.

    Anyone have anything to add to those that hasn't already been said? Or does anyone see anything that I'm missing or may have noted incorrectly?
    Looking through posts, MTR can't be who you said he can't be, so he's probably not town.

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    Jesus, of course I would say that. It doesn't help. Ignore me, I am going through votes and Mazer didn't list them all on the front page, so it's taking me a minute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randolph View Post
    Looking through posts, MTR can't be who you said he can't be, so he's probably not town.
    So it would seem. The question, of course, is he Scum or is he the SK? If he's scum then he needs to go this day phase. If he's the SK we know how to protect against him so he wouldn't be the priority this phase.

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    I don't care if we get the sk or scum really. As long as we don't miss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randolph View Post
    Jesus, of course I would say that. It doesn't help. Ignore me, I am going through votes and Mazer didn't list them all on the front page, so it's taking me a minute.
    Yeah, Night 5 is missing from the first post, too. When I redid my spreadsheet yesterday it took me forever to figure out which set of actions I was missing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWE View Post
    I don't care if we get the sk or scum really. As long as we don't miss.
    Agreed that not missing is very important. Because if we fuck up the vote or the timing then we stand to lose 3 town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWE View Post
    I don't care if we get the sk or scum really. As long as we don't miss.
    Even if you don't trust me, if you take that position, you can't miss with MTR. He's either scum or the orange guy who has killed townies. However, if you lynch Listo, then Iyou will get your answer of who is who with MTR remaining.

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    I think we need to get the red player and then we can worry about the serial killer

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTR View Post
    I think we need to get the red player and then we can worry about the serial killer
    An sk would think that...


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    Can I have a crazy thought or is that not allowed at this time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randolph View Post
    Nah. I’m quite used to scenarios like this.

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    Kdestiny-scum
    MTR-sk

    Anyone have anything to clear either of these people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWE View Post
    An sk would think that...

    Or town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWE View Post
    An sk would think that...

    I'm inclined to agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Listo95 View Post
    Nah. I’m quite used to scenarios like this.
    I think all 3 of us have been in this scenario in one way or the other, but I wanted to use that meme.

    No matter what, things have been narrowed down, hopefully, and lynching any of our asses is gonna get you your answers. If Tildey is right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTR View Post
    Or town.
    You have 1 town role on my sheet.

    Not looking good for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randolph View Post
    I think all 3 of us have been in this scenario in one way or the other, but I wanted to use that meme.

    No matter what, things have been narrowed down, hopefully, and lynching any of our asses is gonna get you your answers. If Tildey is right.
    Second crazy theory has been made in my head now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWE View Post
    Kdestiny-scum
    MTR-sk

    Anyone have anything to clear either of these people?
    Tildey says Kdestiny is town.

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    @Caito Thoughts on any of this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randolph View Post
    Tildey says Kdestiny is town.
    Interesting. Missed that. I'll plug it into my spreadsheet when I get home

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWE View Post
    Kdestiny-scum
    MTR-sk

    Anyone have anything to clear either of these people?
    Kdes was jailed it looks like last night and Jitters/BN acted.

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    Jailed last night*

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    Oh god I did mention last night -.-

    This is why I try not to post while at work…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Listo95 View Post
    Kdes was jailed it looks like last night and Jitters/BN acted.
    Yep. Kdes also can't be Kdes because Kdes jailed Kdes.

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    I knew I should have kept up with my sheet so I can figure out this last scum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Listo95 View Post
    Kdes was jailed it looks like last night and Jitters/BN acted.
    Yeah. I woke up about 2 minutes before my 1st post today. All I did was check who was killed. Never read the phase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Listo95 View Post
    Second crazy theory has been made in my head now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTR View Post
    I knew I should have kept up with my sheet so I can figure out this last scum.
    Right. Because you don't need to figure out the SK since you already know that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randolph View Post
    1st crazy theory is that BN isn’t a SK due to those 2 nights he didn’t act when Jarrod/Val never voted.
    2nd is Tildey is being a mastermind via doing things she was told before most of her team died lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tildey View Post
    Right. Because you don't need to figure out the SK since you already know that.
    No because I think the scum is the priority.

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    For me, the question is who is c"Randolph"? Is it pListo or did pRandolph rand himself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Listo95 View Post
    1st crazy theory is that BN isn’t a SK due to those 2 nights he didn’t act when Jarrod/Val never voted.
    2nd is Tildey is being a mastermind via doing things she was told before most of her team died lol.
    Tidley didn't breadcrumb yesterday. That was a whole slice of bread that was dropped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Listo95 View Post
    1st crazy theory is that BN isn’t a SK due to those 2 nights he didn’t act when Jarrod/Val never voted.
    2nd is Tildey is being a mastermind via doing things she was told before most of her team died lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWE View Post
    Tidley didn't breadcrumb yesterday. That was a whole slice of bread that was dropped.
    Then I must’ve missed it lol. But I always seem to miss stuff like that. (I also blame work being so damn busy cause yay retail -.-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Listo95 View Post
    1st crazy theory is that BN isn’t a SK due to those 2 nights he didn’t act when Jarrod/Val never voted.
    2nd is Tildey is being a mastermind via doing things she was told before most of her team died lol.
    I figure SK didn't act to kill Jarrod or Val because they don't have to eliminate scum to satisfy their win condition.

    Theory 2 is a bit insulting to me and makes me think you may be the scum and pRandolph did draw himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tildey View Post
    For me, the question is who is c"Randolph"? Is it pListo or did pRandolph rand himself?
    Pulling a "Randolph" is the act of voting for yourself and agitating everyone to vote you out on day one.... DAY ONE!! When you knew you were the cop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWE View Post
    Tidley didn't breadcrumb yesterday. That was a whole slice of bread that was dropped.
    It was for ham sandwiches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tildey View Post
    I figure SK didn't act to kill Jarrod or Val because they don't have to eliminate scum to satisfy their win condition.

    Theory 2 is a bit insulting to me and makes me think you may be the scum and pRandolph did draw himself.
    Theory 2 is mostly due to me being at work and bored. I would never actually believe it to be true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Listo95 View Post
    Theory 2 is mostly due to me being at work and bored. I would never actually believe it to be true.
    In that case go find that bread and have sandwiches with CWE & I.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tildey View Post
    In that case go find that bread and have sandwiches with CWE & I.
    What type of bread would you like. I do work in a grocery store .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Listo95 View Post
    What type of bread would you like. I do work in a grocery store .
    Pick up some Hawaiian Rolls. We'll make some ham sliders. It'll be delicious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tildey View Post
    Pick up some Hawaiian Rolls. We'll make some ham sliders. It'll be delicious.
    Got it. King’s Hawaiian Rolls coming up!

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    Before we go down the bread aisle, I think we need to come back to the point.

    MTR is the safest bet, if Tildey is correct (I think she is, but I'm just covering my ass), and you either get rid of one non-town role or the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randolph View Post
    Before we go down the bread aisle, I think we need to come back to the point.

    MTR is the safest bet, if Tildey is correct (I think she is, but I'm just covering my ass), and you either get rid of one non-town role or the other.
    MTR is def the safer of the 2 options.

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    Looking over prior nights again. @Randolph cannot be cJitters due to pRandolph being blocked on N6 but cJitters still acting.

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    I also think we can look at what both of these guys have said tonight:

    MTR: "I think we need to get the red player and then we can worry about the serial killer"

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    I knew I should have kept up with my sheet so I can figure out this last scum."

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    No because I think the scum is the priority."



    Listo throws out a Hail Mary about Tildey possibly being scum after things start to boil down.

    "
    1st crazy theory is that BN isn’t a SK due to those 2 nights he didn’t act when Jarrod/Val never voted.
    2nd is Tildey is being a mastermind via doing things she was told before most of her team died..."


    If MTR is being truthful (i.e. desperate to save to his ass) then I would assume he is the serial killer and listo is scum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tildey View Post
    Looking over prior nights again. @Randolph cannot be cJitters due to pRandolph being blocked on N6 but cJitters still acting.
    Then we go after Listo then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTR View Post
    Then we go after Listo then.
    I'm still town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTR View Post
    Then we go after Listo then.
    My only concern here is that @Caito doesn't seem to be around to vote. Which would leave him vulnerable to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tildey View Post
    My only concern here is that @Caito doesn't seem to be around to vote. Which would leave him vulnerable to you.
    I'm actually okay with that.

    (Gotta stay on brand)

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    To MTR and Listo:


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    Getting everyone around to vote around the same time isn't going to happen.

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    Split the vote and let Caito come in tomorrow and hammer. And thus, Christmas was saved!


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    Quote Originally Posted by MTR View Post
    Getting everyone around to vote around the same time isn't going to happen.
    No, but we could run multiple trains to keep either of you from dropping the hammer until @Caito casts a vote...

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    Town folks could make sure that nobody gets more than two votes on their train until everyone has voted. Then we could decide who to hammer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tildey View Post
    Town folks could make sure that nobody gets more than two votes on their train until everyone has voted. Then we could decide who to hammer?
    Scratch that - no more than one vote per person.

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    @Caito get in here and tell us what to do! You're the main character and this is the climax part of the Christmas movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tildey View Post
    Scratch that - no more than one vote per person.
    No votes until town agrees who dies from me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWE View Post
    No votes until town agrees who dies from me.
    Chance are that we won't be able to coordinate everyone to time their votes so that scum is voted out but everyone is still safe from the SK. As soon as we hit 4 that's the hammer and any votes after that don't count. So the smart move is probably to go ahead and take out MTR. Even though it means probably losing another town person overnight from a scum kill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTR View Post
    Rude
    No...rude is you killed our kids.
    @FutureHold may have been an accident due to the bus drive, but @DivaSmurf was on purpose and when there were other targets to choose from.

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    Back to the task at hand. I'm comfortable with an MTR yeet.

    Can I get a yes or no from everyone else? If you're a no, please say who you'd rather yeet and why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tildey View Post
    No...rude is you killed our kids.
    @FutureHold may have been an accident due to the bus drive, but @DivaSmurf was on purpose and when there were other targets to choose from.
    Which he should have noticed when the only option for his kill was Jarrod/Val

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tildey View Post
    Back to the task at hand. I'm comfortable with an MTR yeet.

    Can I get a yes or no from everyone else? If you're a no, please say who you'd rather yeet and why.
    Oh wait. I'm Obviously a No cause we need to lynch cwe for the meme because he's the leader of the scum!

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    At this point I'm just ready to get to the end. I'm willing to keep whoever promises to make their night moves the fastest so we can get to the next phase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tildey View Post
    At this point I'm just ready to get to the end. I'm willing to keep whoever promises to make their night moves the fastest so we can get to the next phase.
    I'm super quick when it comes to night :P

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    I will make my night action. Nice and quick since I am up watching Wrestle Kingdom

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    I'm 95% confident that MTR is the SK so that's where I'm going to put my vote. At the end of the day, the chances of being able to coordinate everyone to ensure that nobody is vulnerable to the SK are pretty slim. I feel like its better to take out the SK and focus on the remaining scum player next phase. Hopefully town makes good choices with their night actions to block that remaining scum player's (Listo in my opinion) night moves.

    Vote: MTR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Listo95 View Post
    Oh wait. I'm Obviously a No cause we need to lynch cwe for the meme because he's the leader of the scum!
    I'm waiting for Mazer's twist.

    The real CWE is knocked out in his basement and this games evil CWE is actually Mazer in a me mask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWE View Post
    I'm waiting for Mazer's twist.

    The real CWE is knocked out in his basement and this games evil CWE is actually Mazer in a me mask.
    I figure there's some bastard mod twist coming that is related to those points we've been earning during night phases. But your idea would be funny, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWE View Post
    I'm waiting for Mazer's twist.

    The real CWE is knocked out in his basement and this games evil CWE is actually Mazer in a me mask.
    That's actually part IV The Return of cwe

    Wasn't suspicious that there was no color this whole game where you drank?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Listo95 View Post
    Oh wait. I'm Obviously a No cause we need to lynch cwe for the meme because he's the leader of the scum!
    This pretty much cements for me that you’re the scum. Thought I’d mention it in case anyone wants to start a second train to see if we can pull off a twofer.
    @CWE @Randolph @kdestiny @Caito

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tildey View Post
    This pretty much cements for me that you’re the scum. Thought I’d mention it in case anyone wants to start a second train to see if we can pull off a twofer.
    @CWE @Randolph @kdestiny @Caito
    *shrug* I'm still town but nothing will convince you otherwise at this point.

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    There is a near zero percent chance I want to risk a double lynch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWE View Post
    There is a near zero percent chance I want to risk a double lynch.
    I get that. I suppose it comes down to confidence levels on the scum read. If you’re not confident that Listo is the remaining scum, I understand not wanting to risk it.

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    1. MTR -
    2. Tildey - town
    3. Kdestiny - town?
    4.caito - town
    5. cwe -town
    6. Randolph - town?
    7. Listo95

    MTR- sk. Feels from the bones.

    Tildey- basically told me they were [NAME REDACTED] yesterday when they told [PLAYER REDACTED] that [INFO REDACTED].

    kdestiny - only able to be scum if the final (non gf) scum was unblockable (doubtful). Eliminated from sk. Down to 2 town roles. Only 1 if I'm right about Randolph and LDG.

    Caito- still town. And I'm still pissed about it.

    CWE-

    Randolph- I've read as town since about day 3? Unless my gut is wrong. And if wrong, Listo is clean.

    Listo- others have had as town since day 2(?) I don't see it. #2 on my scum list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWE View Post
    1. MTR -
    2. Tildey - town
    3. Kdestiny - town?
    4.caito - town
    5. cwe -town
    6. Randolph - town?
    7. Listo95

    MTR- sk. Feels from the bones.

    Tildey- basically told me they were [NAME REDACTED] yesterday when they told [PLAYER REDACTED] that [INFO REDACTED].

    kdestiny - only able to be scum if the final (non gf) scum was unblockable (doubtful). Eliminated from sk. Down to 2 town roles. Only 1 if I'm right about Randolph and LDG.

    Caito- still town. And I'm still pissed about it.

    CWE-

    Randolph- I've read as town since about day 3? Unless my gut is wrong. And if wrong, Listo is clean.

    Listo- others have had as town since day 2(?) I don't see it. #2 on my scum list.
    Randolph can’t be scum because of N7 actions. cVal blocked pRandolph but cJitters acted. That was the final push for me to confidently mark him town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWE View Post
    1. MTR -
    2. Tildey - town
    3. Kdestiny - town?
    4.caito - town
    5. cwe -town
    6. Randolph - town?
    7. Listo95

    MTR- sk. Feels from the bones.

    Tildey- basically told me they were [NAME REDACTED] yesterday when they told [PLAYER REDACTED] that [INFO REDACTED].

    kdestiny - only able to be scum if the final (non gf) scum was unblockable (doubtful). Eliminated from sk. Down to 2 town roles. Only 1 if I'm right about Randolph and LDG.

    Caito- still town. And I'm still pissed about it.

    CWE-

    Randolph- I've read as town since about day 3? Unless my gut is wrong. And if wrong, Listo is clean.

    Listo- others have had as town since day 2(?) I don't see it. #2 on my scum list.
    kdestiny also can’t be scum or sk because of last nights actions. He was jailed but cJitters acted and cBlind Ninja tried to kill him.

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    Hence unless the final scum is unblockable...

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    Which I seriously doubt. But have seen before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tildey View Post
    Randolph can’t be scum because of N7 actions. cVal blocked pRandolph but cJitters acted. That was the final push for me to confidently mark him town.
    He was read as town before I had Caito as town. Before I had Badger as town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWE View Post
    He was read as town before I had Caito as town. Before I had Badger as town.
    I know a few folks felt like he had a town vibe. I’m just saying that N7 actions provided the spreadsheet support for the feeling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWE View Post
    Which I seriously doubt. But have seen before.
    N4 actions looked very much like a block on kdestiny by cMorrison and then all scum & sk acted. So that night would clear him too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tildey View Post
    N4 actions looked very much like a block on kdestiny by cMorrison and then all scum & sk acted. So that night would clear him too.
    Well with both of them cleared by info insteado if just gut reads, we gots 2 left. For 2 bad roles.


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