Vardy has signed a new contract with Leicester. Another great transfer foray from Arsenal.
Vardy has signed a new contract with Leicester. Another great transfer foray from Arsenal.
Don't know why you're annoyed, you'll get a better and more suited striker than him now. Have the last two England games not shown you how much Vardy relies on Leicester's counter-attacking style? He's barely been involved in either game, scoring one pretty lucky goal (you have to be there to score it etc, it was pure luck that it ended up at his feet) and the only other involvement he had was from a bit of counter-attacking where the Slovakian keeper made a good save. Most of Arsenal's games are much the same as those two games, trying to break down a packed defence. You've dodged a bullet IMO, as has Vardy.
Who are we going to sign? It seems a similar situation with Suarez a few years back. We went in for someone and had no-one as backup.
It wouldn't surprise me if we don't sign a forward now.
You have no idea if you have a back up or not!
Vary wouldn't have worked at Arsenal and I'm totally flummoxed as to why Wenger was in for him.
Who says you have no one as back-up? There are six weeks until the start of the season, ten until the window closes.Originally Posted by Romford Pele
There's no reason to think that is the case.It wouldn't surprise me if we don't sign a forward now.
Its June!
I disagree with this.
I was reading a column from one of the journalists (Brian Reade I would assume) where he was saying that Vardy wouldnt fit into the system that Arsenal have used for years and then went on to say that they havnt won the league for years.
Maybe they need to alter the system then? Having a different option may help them.
Oh I agree with you there, they totally need a back up system but the rest of the squad isn't built for that at all. Throwing Vardy on for the last half hour wouldn't work because the defence and midfield aren't going to utilise him in the right way.
He wouldn't have fit into the way Wenger sets up and the different system Vardy would need just wouldn't work with the rest of the personnel Arsenal have. Obviously its easy to say now its not happening but I think it would've been a horrible move for both Arsenal and Vardy himself.
This is true, but Wenger has shown no real willingness to change his system. Maybe you're right and Vardy was an attempt to move away from the possession game - but you need more than one player to make that change, particularly when the style that Vardy suits is the exact opposite, and in the current system he is just blatantly not the right fit.
Vardy to Arsenal never seemed like happening to me, very interested to see who we go for now instead. Some one similar? I've got no clue.
Jesus Christ. If there's one saving grace to Villa getting relegated it'll be that I won't be in this thread as much to hear these cunt Arsenal fans whinge about every single thing every day whilst finishing second in the country.
I think the whole idea was that Vardy could add a different dimension to the way we play. Bar a few games (for example City away 14/15), we have always played the same way (flood the midfield, possession football)
By signing Vardy it was giving us an option to counter attack.
But you already have that with Walcott and bar the odd game where you literally have no choice but to counter-attack (basically any time you come up against Barca) you've never really exploited that side of his game.
No the reason that didn't work is because Walcott is shite.
Yeah he is shite, but you never tried consistently to exploit the one trait he does have by playing on the break.
Aresnal fans will literally not be happy unless they start with Messi, Ronaldo and Ian Wright as a front three and win the league by 18 points with Wenger getting sacked in the middle of the season and replaced by a time travelling Wenger from 2003.
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Finding this anti-Arsenal trend in here very enjoyable indeed. Arsenal is a twat.
Vardy is also shite
Really? Seems a pretty good striker to me
Yeah if you want someone who can run fast and finish. again, you have Walcott.
Lukaku to Arsenal for £60 million, apparently.
We would probably be asking for more than that in a world where Troy Deeney (not knocking the player by the way) is worth 25M plus.
You have basically taken the piss out of him for being one dimensional for six months. I get that you are making a joke about inflated prices, but you should snap their wrist in half for £60m.
I've just seen the same story but saying 75 million.
That makes no sense. I'm not the one who decides what a player is worth or if we sell them! What I think is irrelevant. The club rate him as our most important player and we never sell players for less than we think they are worth.
Fact is he has 3 years left and we dont need money any more. If he goes he goes on our terms. The rumour up here is 75M but his agent has done a big u turn the past week saying he is happy to stay as Everton have big plans.
I think people are going to have to get their heads around the new cost of players this summer. With the huge amounts of money knocking around prices could easily double hence Deeney being valued at 25M and now Lukaku being classed as 75M. Nobody needs the money so clubs better players will come at a premium.
My point was that you were suggesting 60m shouldn't be enough to get Lukaku, based off a rumour that that was the agreed transfer. If that was the agreed transfer then surely that is what the club is willing to accept hypothetically, regardless of how good he is.
I wasnt saying that at all. I'm saying the club rate him higher than that so it wont be an agreed fee.
Have they said how much they would sell him for?
If true, what's the strategy here? Just go down the list of PL top scorers and try ones that aren't in the Champions League?
Honigstein saying Mkhitaryan to Man United is almost done.
Just saw Honigstein on ITV's Euro coverage. No need for him to be that handsome.
Sky are saying its for £26.3m. Sounds like a bargain.
Another one we have missed out on.
Romford you don't just get to say "another we've missed out on" every time a good player moves to another team, fucking hell. Why on earth do you need Mkhitaryan anyway, not that he isn't a fantastic player but another attacking midfielder is hardly what's needed.
By all accounts we were in for him, but for whatever reason we have missed out. We definitely do need someone like him if and when we sell that waster Walcott.
Last season we were too predictable in the final third and over reliant on Ozil (who was great and created loads of chances) and Sanchez (who was knackered after playing non-stop for 2 years)
As I have said before we need a top level striker (not sure what to make of these £60m Lukaku rumours) and a class winger to bolster our attack. I'm sure we will end up with nowt. I look forward to Wenger blaming the Brexit for it.
Messi retired from international football. Another one we've missed out on.
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All we need to do now is sign Draxler, to really top things off.
Noooooooooooooooooo
We're signing Damiao, Morientes and Diego.
For fucks sake
I see Liverpool are injecting more cash into their feeder club again.
Embolo has gone to Schalke.
Laurent Blanc has officially just left PSG.
Apparently Unai Emery is taking over and bringing Krychowiak with him.
Mane off to Liverpool now, fucking hell!
At least you've signed an outfield player this year.
£30m for Mane, not convinced he is that good tbh. Seems like a very patchy player.
Missed out on another one.
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Shut up.
TAPS AFF!
Mane is a good signing for Liverpool. Pace, skill, cool finisher and works hard. He should fit the Klopp template.
Upgraded version of Lallana. Not fused on price anymore and quite happy we got him.
Wish we had got him, looks like the kind of player we could do with.
Moussa Dembele has joined Celtic from Fulham, that's another one Arsenal have missed out on.
http://www.turkish-football.com/gala...-for-fellaini/
We can't have a transfer window without another one of these stories.
Hulk has signed for Shanghai for £46m. Mental.
A few other transfers from around Europe...
Serie A
Dani Alves (Barcelona -> Juventus)
Stephan Al Shaarawy (Milan -> Roma)
Miralem Pjanic (Roma -> Juventus)
Ever Banega (Sevilla -> Inter)
Antonio Rudiger (Stuttgart -> Roma)
La Liga
Denis Suarez (Villarreal -> Barcelona)
Alvaro Morata (Juventus -> Real Madrid)
Nico Gaitan (Benfica -> Atletico Madrid)
Sime Vrsaljko (Sassuolo -> Atletico Madrid)
Denis Cheryshev (Real Madrid -> Villarreal)
Bundesliga
Breel Embolo (Basel -> Schalke)
Mats Hummels (Dortmund -> Bayern)
Renato Sanches (Benfica -> Bayern)
Kevin Volland (Hoffenheim -> Leverkusen)
Christoph Kramer (Leverkusen -> Gladbach)
Raphael Guerreiro (Lorient -> Dortmund)
Marc Bartra (Barcelona -> Dortmund)
Ousmane Dembele (Rennes -> Dortmund)
Emre Mor (Nordsjaelland -> Dortmund)
Elsewhere
Nicolas Nkoulou (Marseille -> Lyon)
Joao Teixeira (Liverpool -> Porto)
Martin Skrtel (Liverpool - Fenerbahce)
Plenty more likely in the next few days - Krychowiak to PSG which would be a great move for them, he's brilliant. Barcelona are signing Umtiti, Nani is going to Valencia, Mkhitaryan looks like he's going to sign for United...exciting. That's before the big Pogba saga gets going once the Euros end.
Was hoping to see Banega in the EPL one day.
Jerome Sinclair to Watford £4M
Is there an assumption he will play regularly there? From what I've seen of him he looked a real talent, vaguely remember seeing him live on his debut in the League Cup and he looked great.
City have signed Nolito. Watford have turned down £38m for Ighalo from Shanghai. Barmy.
Even if Watford had accepted it I doubt Ighalo would have gone didn't he turn down a similar move last season from some Chinese team?
Newcastle spending money in the Championship.
Not just that, but spending money on good Premier League players. Gayle is in my opinion hugely underrated, he has a bit of Defoe about him in that he doesn't appear to be that good but he just scores goals. Ritchie going there is a mad one, not just because he's already playing regularly in the Prem, but because if he didn't want to leave there were better options available - West Ham bid for him earlier in the summer and IIRC Everton were linked with him too. Don't get me wrong there's every reason to believe Newcastle will be back in the Premier League next year, but seems a strange move for someone whose career seemed to be on the up.
Palace have signed Townsend, which seems a strange one given that they already have two talented but inconsistent nippy wingers among their best performers. I wonder if Pardew is looking to move Bolasie up front permanently.
The ego has landed. Another one.
...you missed out on?
Another ego. Jose was obv the first.
I know what you meant.
Hmmm
I doubt it if they keep the other 2 main strikers which it looks like they are.
We have signed a bloody striker!
Wisely, with a view to the future.
Hmmmmm. No future if you don't come straight back up.
Signing Premier League level players is a pretty good way of getting out of the Championship to be fair.
We've tried signing the best players from the worst teams in the premier league before and it didn't help us. But admittedly we weren't actually in the championship when doing that. Maybe that'll work in the league down better than it does in the league up.
I'd be very surprised if Gayle and Ritchie didn't do well for Newcastle. Would you want them back up for the derbies or prefer them to stay fucked off?
I'd prefer if they went bankrupt and ceased to exist forever more.
You'd think so, add a good centre half and a couple of old heads and I think we've got a damn good squad, if the rumours about Caulker turn out to be right I'll be over the bloody moon.
Miks just sulking because they're only hope of survival next year is Fat Sam and he wants the England job.
After you lot,we have a bigger fanbase, a better squad, a richer owner, a much better manager, a bigger ground and we run in a profit, how's your books?
Serious talk of Mata to the Toffees, unreal if true. Buzzing about that one, but fully expecting to be trumped by someone at the last minute. Hopefully not though, would be another big statement of intent from the new owner Moshiri!
Heard you're in for Witsel as well, €30m apparently.
Makes you wonder how you ended up a division down again doesn't it?
After you lot,we have a bigger fanbase, a better squad, a richer owner, a much better manager, a bigger ground and we run in a profit, how's your books?
Witsel and William Carvalho also linked yeah. Can't really see it happening as they're all names that would attract some of the bigger European sides. Exciting rumours even if it comes to nothing! The thought of essentially swapping Osman out for Mata is mouth-watering!
Nope.
Shit manager who we held onto for too long and too many underperforming players, simple really.
I dont really get the Mata statement of intent thing. He is obviously a talented player but its not like we would be signing Pele in his prime or anything.
Looks like you're not going for Krul anymore, on his day he's one of the best around, but he's not the greatest leader for a keeper.
Bloody hell high standards! I think the point is that Mata would not have looked at you lot a few years back...so if you were to get him it would be statement of intent
It wouldn't be a statement for a team like Barca or Real Madrid, but for Everton? Definitely. It's a big statement of intent for Everton. You wouldn't sign a player of Mata's quality if you're expecting to finish in the bottom half of the table again.
Hes a good premier league player who sometimes gets a game for Spain.
Id be happy for us to get him of course, hes a very good player but hes not one of the worlds elite players or anything. That's all I have an issue with, people are acting like its Ronaldo signing for Morcombe or something.
And before certain people get easily confused I am not expecting us to sign players of higher quality nor am I knocking is ability. He is a very good player playing for a team a few places above us in the same league who is having to leave as his manager obviously doesnt rate him for some reason. It's a signing that would make sense, not some massive earth shattering deal.
MMH I don't know whether you're underrating Mata or overrating Everton, but signing him would be a huge coup given how good he is and the sort of teams you'd expect to be after him. I know you hate the modern world of football but let's not try to subvert reality here, there is a huge difference between United and Everton and it would be a big shock if you managed to get him. I would expect this to be borne out in the next few weeks if United are willing to let him go, as I'd imagine a bigger side from the continent would come in and gazump you.
Apparently we're signing this Vincent Janssen bloke from AZ this week. I didn't know he existed until he scored against England a couple of months ago, anyone seen much of him?
Havent seen him play but his name always seemed to pop up in transfer rumours last season. Over 30 goals at the age of 22 sounds promising.
I have already explained my thoughts up there and given my whole opinion on it....
Mata is a good player, he isnt a world beater or anything either. Evidently I am under rating Mata then and personally I think with good reason.
Ok OK, Everton are fucking shit, Mata is the best player ever. Got it. If he was to move to us then he is taking a step down because for some reason he wasnt deemed good enough twice by his manager.
Im not saying he is bad at all, im not saying Everton are great, I'm just saying that he is not this massive marquee player or anything either and it shouldnt be a massive shock if he ends up at a club like us.
I'm with MMH here. It would be a great signing for Everton, but I wouldn't say it was a 'statement of intent'. If they sign 4 or 5 other players of his ilk then maybe, but not it this is their one marquee high profile signing.
Oh yeah, of course. I'm going ahead with the assumption that signing Mata would be like telling people "these are the kind of players we'll be signing going forward".
The guy is a proven Spanish International who was coveted by the world elite when he went to Chelsea.
The reason he has been 'discarded' twice was because Mourinho coaches out the creativity of players like Mata and places more importance on discipline (see how Joe Cole declined under him)
Mata is obviously not a player who will track back for you, but he is a class number 10 and Everton would be very lucky to get him.
It's more Everton or Valencia for him now though than Everton or Real Madrid isn't it? I don't think it's exactly a coup, just a good signing that a club likely below the level he is playing at will get to make, be it Everton or someone else.
He went to Chelsea what, 6 years ago?
Again though I'm not sure why you are telling me that he is a good player, I already know he is. All I am saying is that if he was to sign for us it would be a good signing (we wouldnt be "lucky" to have him, we would be paying him after all), but not a signing that is earth shattering or anything as he is the type of player we should be going for. I do think we over rate our players over here a little bit too.
This is the sticking point in a nutshell. At any point since he became hot property at Valencia almost a decade, he wouldn't have been the type of player you should be going for, because it would have been unrealistic to think you might sign him. It all comes down to the 'statement of intent' thing, but I would say that signing a player who, frankly, should be playing for a bigger club than Everton, would be a good marker for where the new era Everton want to be.
Yeah but its not as if we have not had these type of players before. Every club has them at some point.
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