Smoke on the water
Smoke on the water
First song i've learned was Seven nation army - The white stripes. I can still only play simple songs so heres a few...
Otherside - Red hot chilli peppers
Enter sandman - Metallica
Scar Tissue - RHCP
No rain - Blind Melon
True love waits - Radiohead
Any Oasis song
First two songs I learned were Come As You Are and With A Little Help From My Friends.
"When I Come Around" by Green Day
First real solo (one that requires skill, unlike, say, Smells Like Teen Spirit), was "Whole Lotta Love" by Zep.
Funnily enough, I was strumming away today and done something that sounded like Seven Nation Army. I realised then that it should be an easy one to pull off.Originally Posted by Jhurley
I've been practicing Tambourine Man by Bob Dylan, but am having trouble keeping up with the speed of the song. I can pull off all the chords individually but getting from one to the next is proving rather diffuclt. I know that it's one of those things that comes as you practice, but I can see it taking a long time.
I'd love to learn the solo at the beginning of For Whom the Bell Tolls by Metallica, but that's likely to be a long time away.
Anyway, thanks to everyone who recommended, I'll bare the songs in mind.
I can't play any solos yet
My friend can play it though
Sorry if I sound like bragging here, I don't me too, and that is the furthest thought from my mind, but For Whom The Bell Tolls is a piece of piss.
The main riff is mostly power chords, and the solo isn't that advanced.
Tab here: http://www.guitarists.net/tab/view.php?id=23744
The little "Do do do do do do" on the guitar is sexy. You've gotta know what I'm talking about. It's just so cool.
Rough to play many blazing solos on a tele, though.
Thunderstruck isn't as hard as I expected it to be. Learn that one
I think I know what you mean, it's like an old rock and roll riff?
Shoot for "Damage Case," by Motorhead. Any Early Metallica is simple("Jump in the Fire" is mildly difficult at first). "Am I Evil," by Diamond Head is good, too. The solo's pretty easy, and the main riff is slow and easy to play and sing to at the same time.
I think that's due to the fat neck.
I picked up my 72 Tele Custom for a whopping 150 bucks due the an advertising typo. The ad was supposed to have the word "lookalike" or something to that effect. I saw the ad, ripped it out of the paper and ran to the shop. Pointed at the black one off to the side. The owner said AWWW CRAP!@*&@$#* but wrote it up anyway. Got a hardshell case for another 70.
I don't know, there are some wicked country solos played on a Tele and who was it? Roy Gallager? (sic) He tore that rascal up.
Not to mention the solo to Stairway to Heaven, one of the most well known and revered solos in history. Come to think of it, most Led Zeppelin solos weer done on a tele.
Anyone know a good site to find tabs?
Looking for Hallelujah - Jeff Buckley specifically
Wicked solos, sure. I'm talking about mindless shredding, though. Need a girly, light, thin guitar for those.
http://www.chordie.com/chord.pere/ww...ileid=12132795
don't know if that's what your looking for.
I banged it out on the piano one day. Nice tune.
or this, it's formatted a bit. http://www.chordie.com/chord.pere/ww...ileid=14153726
Excellent
The first solo you learnt was Whole Lotta Love? Jesus H Christ. I still have difficulty with that and I've been playing for yonks."When I Come Around" by Green Day
First real solo (one that requires skill, unlike, say, Smells Like Teen Spirit), was "Whole Lotta Love" by Zep.
The first riff I learned was the first riff in Sweet Dreams by Manson I think. My first solo was the fun little one at the beginning of Fade to Black by Metallica.
I tried to learn the solo in Floods by Pantera the other day. You can probably guess how well that went.
LOL, that was the first riff I learnt too. Manson riffs are normally a good place to start, because there are easy yet sound good, if that makes sense.
Yeah. My brother had a guitar and I didn't, and that was like the only riff I knew for like 3 years. It got kind of played out after a while.
LOL, i remember at school people would go on about how they could play Sweet Dreams, and Beautiful People, that was, until I showed them, how the play the entire songs not just the main riff
Agreed
Led Zep I was exclusively recorded on the '58 Tele that Jeff Beck gave to Page as a thank you for getting him the gig with the Yardbirds when Page left to form Zep. The amp he used was some old 15 watt Supro, or something like that.
Around the time they were recording II, which was not long after they recorded I, some doofus was fiddling with the wiring in the '58 and, consequently, Page felt it never sounded how it should after that. Since then, with the exception of Stairway and a few other later Zep songs, most of his guitar playing has been on a Les Paul.
So a Seven-String isn't a guitar? So a baritone isn't a guitar? So tuning to open A for slide makes it not a guitar? *insert your own other examples*
Drop D-Tuning?
C-Tuning?
Drop-Tuning?
Sorry Korn Pauly says you don't play real guitars;
What about 12 String guitars?
Korn just aren't real guitar players.
Why, because they don't do solos?
How hard are U2 songs to learn?
They don't even play chords.
They still play guitars - those things in their hands aren't holograms.
I dont think anybody would call Korn good guitarists, they were just used as an example as they don't follow the 'traditional' style.
Oh?!?!?!!?!?! Is that what he was doing?
Well, I've had my guitar for a couple of days now, and have been practising a few chords. I thought I'd find myself a simple song to attempt - Wonderwall.
Aye, simple my arse:
http://www.guitaretab.com/o/oasis/13758.html
What's all this Em7, Dsus4, A7sus4, Cadd9 stuff all about?
Not really sure, but my guess would be E-minor and the likes of that
You could be right, actually.
Anyone know for certain?
No, he's not right. Em is E minor. Those chords you listed are variations on the fourth and seventh and ninth intervals of regular major and minor chords. Don't worry about those. That's getting into theory which, unless you're already a musician, you don't need to worry about just yet. Once you learn scales, if you do, they'll make more sense. Just work on the basic open chords first. A, C, D, E, G and their minor chords. Once you get the E chord down you'll be able to play barre chords also.
Oasis songs actually seem to have a lot of those types of chords. Look for early Beatles songs. Most of those have straight forward chord arrangements that are easy for beginners.
Last edited by Jimmy Zero; September 7th, 2005 at 12:48 PM.
Hmmm, I think I understand that. Thanks, I appreciate it.
So, take Dsus4 for example, what does that mean exactly? What would that be for someone who isn't 'already a musician?'
Here's a fantastic site that'll tell you how to finger any chord you come across and also preview how it'll sound:
http://www.8notes.com/guitar_chord_chart/
Brilliance. Thanks very much.
D suspended 4th. I think. I haven't paid attention to my theory for a good 5 years, but I'm pretty sure that's what it is.
How am I wrong, when you said the exact same thing?
You were wrong, though. Em and Em7 are different chords. No need to get in a tizzy about it.
How am I wrong, when you said the exact same thing?
And you didn't say the same thing. I gave him an explanation as to was sus4 and add9 are. You said, "E minor and the likes of that," which doesn't really explain anything and isn't right anyhow.
Last edited by Jimmy Zero; September 7th, 2005 at 1:44 PM.
It could've helped
It's ok. Maybe next time.
G|----9---7------5-----7--------|----9---7------5-----7--------|
Right, lads, as far as I know that means I play the G chord on the 9th fret, then the 7th etc.
So, playing the G chord on the 9th fret - doesn't the G chord use two frets? Would I use 8 and 9, or 9 and 10?
I don't really understand what you're asking.
Are you asking how to play a G power chord (using two fingers)?
The way you posted that tab would mean you're playing at those frets on the same string.
Sorry, I should have used that website Judas linked to in here to help.
http://www.8notes.com/guitar_chord_chart/G.asp
That is the G chord. How can I possibely play that on one fret? Or am I missing something, something about power chords?
Now I get it.
That first diagram is really the only one you need to learn right now. That's an open G. Your middle finger goes where the first dot is, your index on the second dot, and your ring on the third dot. The strings that have the "o" over them are open, which means you don't put your fingers on them but you still play them.
What's confusing you are the barre chords. Take a look at the diagram third from bottom. What you do there is barre, or hold down, the 6th string as well as the first and second with your index finger (sixth being fattest string, first being skinniest). Then, you basically use the same finger position you would for an open E chord to complete the chord. I wouldn't worry about those until you get the open chords down first, especially the E. Once you get those down and know how the chord is supposed to sound, it'll be easier.
Pinky instead of 4th on the high E makes life a lot easier for the G chord then 4th finger on low E and 3rd on A, it allows you to switch to other chords such as C, C/G, D etc much more easily. It's just a bitch to get down at first.
People look at me like I'm crazy when I play it like that.
Ring finger on the E, middle finger on the A, pinky on the high E.
Never tried that... interesting.
I'm so used to switching between G's and C's that I can change pretty swiftly now.
Just as an exercise to increase agility and finger strength, barre (pick a fret0 and play three chord runs. when you go back to standard the G you described is much easier.
Heh, I naturally started playing G's that way but I'm trying to get out of the habit.
I need to buy a capo, apparently. A bloody tenner.
I use one of these, it's a Shubb. That adjuster is great, no rattles. Around 20 bucks US.
I get to choose a song to learn in guitar class, only thing is i'm not good. Can anyone help me with a fairly easy, but good song to learn? Hows Wonderwall to learn?
Wonderwall is fairly easy, if I remember correctly. It uses some of those weirder chords though, so I don't know how that would play into your decision.
What kind of music do you like, as far as what you play on your guitar? California Sun (Ramones style) is really fun to play and really easy, for example.
Wonderwall is ridculously easy. For 2/3 of the song, you don't move two fingers on your hand.
Pfffft, listen to smartarse over there.
I like to play picking songs like No Rain and Scar Tissue (Some of the only ones I can play). Wonderwall isn't a picking song i'm sure, but we've got to mix it up in this class and start learning both. Is there any radiohead songs that a fairly easy to play, U2 or Blind Melon even?
Radiohead, I'd either say Thinking About You or No Suprises are quite easy.
Anyway, a question:
I'm considering buying an electric guitar (for a change, as I'm more of an acoustic player). Now, I can play guitar, so I'm not after a practise one, (i.e encore, hohner etc), and want a decent sounding one, but nothing too expensive. Can anyone recommend any guitars around the £200 (probably around $350) mark?
I was considering a Squire Stratocaster.
You could go with a Squire or you could look at the Epiphones. They have a semi Hollow body based on the Gibson ES-335 that as an acoustic player might be an easier transition.
The Fender Standard Strats start at 369. or so. Sorry, just don't like the Squires. No real reason.
Chaeck out Sam Ash or Musician's Friend .
You can get a standard Mexican strat or tele for $350.
Squire Strat is more of a "practice" one, I guess. Spring for something more than that since you can already play.
Wow, we essentially said the same thing.
capos are awesome, I couldn't live without one
Haha, little slow there, I was.
SquiERs have gotten pretty damn nice in the last couple years, all things considered. Obviously, they're not amazing guitars, but for the price they are a good deal. They're a million times better than the garbage they used to churn out in the early and mid '90's. The Squier Custom Teles are especially nice. The M80's are good too.
Still, if you wanted to spend a couple hundred more you could find a good MIM Classic series Fender, which are steals. They're basically American made surplus parts that are assembled in their Mexican facility. They do use lower grade pick ups, but for another $60 or so dollars you can buy new ones and have a guitar just as good as any American made Fender. I got a Classic '50's Tele off eBay for $400 and put a Seymour Duncan Broadcaster bridge PU in it and I think it plays better than just about any American Tele I've come across.
im not gonna sit here and read 17 pages of this to see if this song has already been added.
Green Day - Brain Stew
Papa Roach - Last Resort
System Of A Down - Aerials (learn the bass line instead. sounds good on guitar)
You could realize that the thread was made 2 years ago, and that we're not really recommending him songs anymore
Yes, but that would require reading, and he's already demonstrated he has a rudimentary understanding of how that's done.
did you not read the first line of my statement? i said plainly and bluntly that i didnt feel like reading 17 pages of it.
Sorry, I forgot to clarify. You're a lazy idiot.
and you are a self-gratifying pussy. so i guess we are even
Women want self gratifying pussies, not lazy idiots.
you realize that your insults are beginning to look extremely similar to those of Church? thats just sad
Do you realize that you're a completely useless moron and no one is interested in your opinion so you might as well not give it?
And, if I knew who Church was I might care. No, I wouldn't.
I agree with the pickup thing. I took my original '72 Tele Custom over to the Guitar Center and we compared the tome to the Classic. The Classic looked the same, almost weighed as much but lacked the sound. The Humbucker was flat and the single coil just did have the bite.
It coul have been the age of my pickups but I didn't see the Classic improving as is over the ages.
But yea, for the price and a change of pickups, maybe reinforcing the grounds and solder points while it's open, it would be a better choice than a Squier.
Yeah, that seems to be the general consensus as far as Widerange humbucker fans go. I can't remember who makes faithful repros of those pick ups. I want to say either Seth Lover, the guy who designed the buckers on the '70's teles, still makes and markets a recreation. Maybe it was Fender. I can't remember right now.
If you want to put humbuckers in a tele, why don' you just go ahead and get a Gibson or a Les Paul? Something was made made for humbuckers? A tele was made to have twang and bark.
It still has the twang, bark and all that. I think I got it in '78 for 150 bucks.
I want your tele
My guitar is still purdy by the way. The squier strat that was my first gets more and more beat up everyday though...
Fuck, dude. You just got a whole hell of a lot cooler in my eyes. That tele is the absolute shit. Anyone that rocks one of those is a bad ass. I'd like to get my hands on either one of those, or a Tele Deluxe at some point. Oh man, those are sweet.It still has the twang, bark and all that. I think I got it in '78 for 150 bucks.
There's a quote right at the end of the movie The Alamo by Billy Bob Thorton playing Davy Crockett. He's about to be executed by Santa Anna's men when he says, "I have to warn you fellas, I'm a screamer".I want your tele
I named my Tele Davy after seeing that.
The Strat is a Frankenstein beast. It was built by a tech at a long gone guitar shop. 72 neck, unknown body. The yellowed pickups are 57s the white one is a 64. Solid brass tailpiece. Knobs are 60ish. The 2nd and 4th switch positions ar cophased so they have a 'tubular?" tone to them. Hell the whole thing is a work of tone. I put four coats of urethane on the body after I got it, it had been stripped allready. I think it was originally some kind of California blue judging from the paint remnant that's under the springs.
The only mod I did to it was resolder the grounding, still can't conquer that inherent strat background hum.
Is the guitar shielded? That would cut down on the 60 cycle hum.
easy stuff is about a girl and heartbreaker (zeppelin) other stuff's been mentioned
I dare anyone to say that Heartbreaker guitar solo is easy.
Yes, it's shielded. I think the major problem is that the Strat combined with the tube amp have a natural buzz about them. I can run it down with the adjustment or the polarity switch on the amp. Mostly it's due to the plg in the music room not being grounded. I never noticed it onstage.
It's actulally only something I pick up on if I think about it.
If I turn the light dimmers off it cuts it down a lot.
I love the finish on that axe K.My guitar is still purdy by the way. The squier strat that was my first gets more and more beat up everyday though...
It's bootiful and I luv it
The couch ...it looks like someone has sat there for ages.
Tell me aboot the amp.
Yeah. I mean, a single coil guitar is going to have a certain amount of hum no matter what (as I'm sure you're aware) barring those vintage noiseless things from Fender.
If it usuall only happens at your house, or wherever you do most of your playing, you've probably just got old wiring in the walls and all that. Flourescent lights also tend to add noise to the signal so that also might do it.
Unfortunately, this is unavoidable when using single coil guitars.
Fucking gay double post.
It was mostly the dimmer switches in the music room. I shut them off and the hum is minimal. bahh I'm used to it. I mean a vintage Strat and a Vintage tube amp ain't supposed to sound clean and pretty is it?
It's a Marshall MG30FX, it's got that valve simulation shit in it, and some digital effects, the clean channel is awesomely blusey when you crank it up. The gain can be a little much on the overdrive channel, but if you hit the mix just right, it sounds awesome. Plus all that gain can be good for annoying my neighbours from time to time.The couch ...it looks like someone has sat there for ages.
Tell me aboot the amp.
I went out to get some food last week and when I came back, my neighbors had parked their car in such a way that they took up two parking spots in front of my house so that I had to park around the block.
I went home, ate my tacos, and put my Bassman up against the wall (I live in an attached house) set it around seven, and proceeded to "This Charming Man" in one endless, 20 minute loop.
Hell no. It's supposed to sound bad ass and rocking, which I'm sure it does. Man, I want a vintage Strat. Now all I have to do is come up on several thousand dollars and I'll be good to go.
Someone told me I should re-tune my guitar every three days.
Surely it doesn't have to be that often?
hahaaaa sorry. I tune mine three or six times a day.
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