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    Icon15 WWE Monday Night RAW (Reigns/Cesaro, Rollins/Sheamus, Ambrose/Joe) - Dec 11th 2017

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    There isn't really a good way to follow that. Fantastic.

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    It will be interesting to see if they go keyfabe about Swann tonight

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    Yeah it will be interesting to see what they do now

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    Isn't his court appearance today? I would say unless his wife speaks up or drops charges it will be all over for him today.

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    Yeah but he is suspended and I would imagine will stay that way until they decide what to do.

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    Besides what's listed in the thread title, these matches have also been confirmed by WWE.com:

    -Braun Strowman vs. Kane
    -Alicia Fox vs. Asuka

    The preview on WWE.com makes no mention of the Cruiserweight tournament. So who knows what will happen with that... Hopefully my man Gran Metalik gets another chance!!

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    I reckon they'll just say Swann was suspended and replace him somehow. Itami showing up early seems likely to me.

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    Some live babblings from the madmen (plural) would be nice.

    Everything else tonight is gravy.

    Sad to see Sheamus is suffering from spinal stenosis. Trust me.

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    JUST ANNOUNCED:
    -Reigns vs Cesaro is now officially a title match.
    -Braun vs Kane is now officially a #1 Contender’s Match! (The winner will face Brock at the Royal Rumble show on Jan. 28!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by NWo4LifeOr2Years View Post
    Some live babblings from the madmen (plural) would be nice.

    Everything else tonight is gravy.

    Sad to see Sheamus is suffering from spinal stenosis. Trust me.
    It's what retired Stone Cold and Edge. Hopefully it doesn't shorten Sheamus' career but odds are he won't be around much longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greebull View Post
    JUST ANNOUNCED:
    -Reigns vs Cesaro is now officially a title match.
    -Braun vs Kane is now officially a #1 Contender’s Match! (The winner will face Brock at the Royal Rumble show on Jan. 28!)
    That could be a good way to get to a Brock/Braun/Reigns triple threat at Mania.

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    It's going to take a hell of swerve for me to feel optimistic of this main event at the Rumble, based on who is currently in the mix.

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    No Braun for the Rumble though

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    Quote Originally Posted by greebull View Post
    The preview on WWE.com makes no mention of the Cruiserweight tournament. So who knows what will happen with that... Hopefully my man Gran Metalik gets another chance!!
    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post
    I reckon they'll just say Swann was suspended and replace him somehow. Itami showing up early seems likely to me.
    I think they should hold another multi-man match. Winner faces Gulak...
    Tozawa would be my pick in a pinch...

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    They could do a segment where to En-W-Zo are celebratory because Rich Swann got suspended, making his title opportunity forfeit, and Kurt comes in and rains on their parade...

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    What has Kane done since coming back? Has he won any matches? I haven't watched a lot of Raw the past few weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soxfanatic View Post
    What has Kane done since coming back? Has he won any matches? I haven't watched a lot of Raw the past few weeks.
    He's beaten Seth Rollins, Finn Balor and Jason Jordan...
    With the exception of his loss at TLC and altercations with Strowman that go back and forth, he's pretty much been unstoppable...
    Which is what you would want if you were booking the guy towards a big Strowman monster match...

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    Are all the Canadian Wrestlers on SmackDown?

    Kevin Owens, Sami Zayn, Bobby Roode, Chris Jericho, Tye Dillinger, Jinder Mahal, Natalya...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Casey View Post
    Are all the Canadian Wrestlers on SmackDown?

    Kevin Owens, Sami Zayn, Bobby Roode, Chris Jericho, Tye Dillinger, Jinder Mahal, Natalya...
    I'm still waiting for the moment when a bunch of of people are in the ring, and suddenly they realize most of them are Canadian and then they all turn alla ECW during the Invasion angle.

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    Now I kind of want a sitcom with Bray and Matt where Bray is the straight man and Matt is the weird one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasori View Post
    Now I kind of want a sitcom with Bray and Matt where Bray is the straight man and Matt is the weird one
    Get the wyatt family back together against the hardy family and do a brady bunch opeing credits theme.

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    Drew Gulak is great.

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    I love it when one character explains something to another character that they already know, entirely for the benefit of the audience...

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    I think I smell a Lesner vs Strowman vs Kane match at the Rumble.

    I shall now duck quickly before the ring fills with garbage....

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    Now that we know about Sheamus's spinal stenosis I find my self getting nervous every bump he is taking in the head/neck.

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    I ship Enzo and Nia...
    She can be the Diesel to his HBK...
    She has far more talent than he does - I'd say she's more like Chyna while he's an WWF version of Jeff Jarrett, but I like her too much.

    She's the Wrecking Ball with a Million Dollar Smile, and she should show off her smile more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NWo4LifeOr2Years View Post
    I think I smell a Lesner vs Strowman vs Kane match at the Rumble.

    I shall now duck quickly before the ring fills with garbage....
    Brock excels in multi man matches. Could be a surprisingly good triple threat.

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    kane in a brock lesnar match is just insufferable though.

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    Really no need for sheamus doing top rope suplexes anymore.

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    I guess they will make Seth sell that knee the rest of his career.

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    I really hope the Nia/Enzo is not some form of punshment. Enzo is always in the dog house and Nia took that time off after bashing the writers. I am not down for fat shaming her in this odd couple type of way. I am down for this version of Eddie/Chyna.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tainted Eclipse View Post
    kane in a brock lesnar match is just insufferable though.
    One would hope that Kane would throw everything he has into the match and bump more than usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikcelbe View Post
    I guess they will make Seth sell that knee the rest of his career.
    Which is weird because not every wrestler has to do this. Did Austin or Edge have to sell their necks in every match? Have they even made Paige's neck an issue? I can't remember the last time Balor had to sell his shoulder

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    I haven't watched 205 Live in forever and don't always pay attention to the matches on RAW, but that was quite entertaining. Cedric looked really good too. Felt like the match was built around him.

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    Its a shame the Cruiserweights have no juice going into these matches, because this was a great match. Crowd got into at the end. Cole badgering Gulak was so bad, Booker lookied good on commentary for making fun of Cole being street and that maybe the best use of Booker this decade.

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    They should turn Gulak face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beer-Belly View Post
    They should turn Gulak face.
    If he turns face, he should do this move...


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    Looks like the RAW Women found the Absolution Solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasori View Post
    Looks like the RAW Women found the Absolution Solution.
    Absolutely...
    Now they're facing Obsoletion...

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    I guess Jordan interfering keeps both guys looking strong.

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    I like how a TV-MA show is airing after Raw.

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    Ambrose and Joe can definitely do better than that.

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    It makes a lot of sense for Joe to look strong, since he's the new variable in the Shield feud...

    Quote Originally Posted by Beer-Belly View Post
    Ambrose and Joe can definitely do better than that.
    Off night...
    Pretty much the opposite of Reigns/Cesaro...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Casey View Post
    It makes a lot of sense for Joe to look strong, since he's the new variable in the Shield feud...
    Agreed. I just think Joe and Dean can have a much better match under different circumstances.

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    Having The Roots contribute the theme for Clash of Champions is pretty dope.

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    Asuka made her outfit from the corpses of a thousand muppets...
    More like she stole Joseph's Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat.

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    Will their armpits even make to Royal Rumble!?!

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    They cut the armpit shot out of the promo package.

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    Christ, what a lame ending.

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    I'm loving this Braun and Kane stuff to be honest...
    Everyone should see that, Reigns vs. Cesaro and the Absolution/Asuka confrontation...

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    And the cruiserweight fatal fourway...

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    I've now got Sky Sports Action, or whatever channel carries Raw over here, and I can't decide between watching this tonight or Superbrawl IX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasori View Post
    Looks like the RAW Women found the Absolution Solution.
    Yup!

    Freaking awesome.

    Alexa even got in on it. Surprising after she had bailed every time Absolution attacked in the past.

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    Anyone notice that it looked like the women had to cover up for their match in Abu Dhabi last week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stinger_Splash View Post
    Anyone notice that it looked like the women had to cover up for their match in Abu Dhabi last week?
    I was wondering why Sasha was wearing the full bodysuit. I thought it was another one of her tributes, but maybe not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasori View Post
    I was wondering why Sasha was wearing the full bodysuit. I thought it was another one of her tributes, but maybe not.
    From the clip I saw she and Alexa were both wearing the full bodysuits.

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    Yes, they were both wearing full body suits. Rules 'n' shit.

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    Women's division's getting interesting. Nia Jax's new rainbow braids and newer ring gear are awesome.

    This Woken/Broken Hardy stuff doesn't do anything for me.

    Boo to the finish of Braun/Kane. Boo to Kane being in the Universal Title match. I'll change those to yays if Braun beats them at the Rumble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mth View Post
    Women's division's getting interesting. Nia Jax's new rainbow braids and newer ring gear are awesome.

    This Woken/Broken Hardy stuff doesn't do anything for me.

    Boo to the finish of Braun/Kane. Boo to Kane being in the Universal Title match. I'll change those to yays if Braun beats them at the Rumble.
    You will be keeping it to boos then, according to Meltzer they are going to have Kane take the fall to Braun I wish they would let it be Braun vs Roman at Mania, I am sick of Brocks less than part time ass being champion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikcelbe View Post
    I guess they will make Seth sell that knee the rest of his career.
    Worst finisher in the WWE.

    They cannot even give it a name.

    The knee to the nose like Rollins gave Cena would be a good finisher:

    You Can't Cenose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AudioDynamite View Post
    You will be keeping it to boos then, according to Meltzer they are going to have Kane take the fall to Braun I wish they would let it be Braun vs Roman at Mania, I am sick of Brocks less than part time ass being champion.
    I know. But then I can at least be happy Braun doesn't take the fall. Dude can go on to be the guy that takes the belt off Reigns after Reigns solves the Brock problem.

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    Brock is definitely pinning Kane.

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    Kane in a WWE title match at the 2nd biggest PPV of the year in 2018?

    This company is the fucking shits at building stars.

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    I heard Dean's replacement was either Jason Jordan or Finn Balor. I'm really annoyed they didn't go with Finn. Now that Dean is out. They could of built a story out of Seth and Finn and even create a match at Wrestlemania. They could of even brought Gallows and Anderson into the mix. The Club beats down on Rollins and Reigns building up to the September PPV then BAM! DEAN AMBROSE RETURNS! and people are excited The Shield vs The Club 2.0.

    Also Balor was so hot before he got injured. Now WWE doesn't give a damn anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPWalkman View Post
    I heard Dean's replacement was either Jason Jordan or Finn Balor. I'm really annoyed they didn't go with Finn. Now that Dean is out. They could of built a story out of Seth and Finn and even create a match at Wrestlemania. They could of even brought Gallows and Anderson into the mix. The Club beats down on Rollins and Reigns building up to the September PPV then BAM! DEAN AMBROSE RETURNS! and people are excited The Shield vs The Club 2.0.

    Also Balor was so hot before he got injured. Now WWE doesn't give a damn anymore.
    He had been given a monster push (bigger than anything Reigns ever had) but I wouldn't describe it as hot. The reaction was mild when he made his first Raw appearance on the stage and it stayed that way.

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