Hating my face is punishable by a 3 point deduction.Originally Posted by son_of_foley
Its in the rules that I have received from BBF but have not posted yet.
In the very small print.
Ill publish them over the weekend.
Hating my face is punishable by a 3 point deduction.
Its in the rules that I have received from BBF but have not posted yet.
In the very small print.
Ill publish them over the weekend.
For the MMH Cup just offer the prize as being a chance to change Euro player once for the duration of the next MMH Cup. Most of these Euro picks will be busts.
I think that's better than having a ninth squad place.
Or bin that competition off if you prefer.
I would motion to make the MMH only count your starting 5
For simplicity and because the 8 squads is a bit mental.
MMH cup results don’t look up to date. I say rebrand it as the new cup competition.
Am I the only one who thinks an extra squad place is fairly worthless?
Is it that hard? There is space for 8 (or 7 in the past) players on the spreadsheet. I just used to put my whole squad in.
You only need to check the scores of those who's 5 man squad didnt score.
No one puts their whole squad in and no on regular does the MMH.
I spent last year back-filling in over weeks and getting it wrong.
"only".
Now we have 8 man squads it's less valuable but when you have the extra spot it's great.
I did it for years without the use of an awesome spreadsheet.
Its very rare that a team wont score and if they dont you may get lucky and the first one you search for scores and that's it, job done.
The whole point of the MMH cup is to give a bit of joy to people in an otherwise shite week. For example, "Oh look I have just conceded 8 goals to utter shite like SOF.* At least that last minute goal from my bench has kept me in the MMH cup."
*No offence
Its handy to have. I dont think its an advantage though either. Just enables you to take a punt on a lower end player without any real risk.
Its worthless when everyone has got eight man squads anyway, yes. That's why I don't think it should be given as a prize.
Remember those first few MMH Cups when people were desperately making transfers to try somehow to survive because the Euro pick was so important for them? A chance to re-pick a Euro player is a huge prize.
Agreed, and I think the MMH cup is worthy of a good reward personally. It's a cup that rewards consistency and also looking after your squad correctly especially in those weeks where there are not many games.
To be honest I dont think a Euro pick is too high of a reward as everyone has one now anyway. Realistically its less of a reward than it used to be.
Obviously the issue will always be that someone can just pick up the best scorer in Europe (if available). But with 16 Euro players taken already that shouldnt be a huge deal....
We could just have it so that someone can be chosen from only a selection of leagues?
lets keep discussing and I will put a poll up regarding it over the weekend.
My view is that we've massively levelled the playing field with all the changes and the MMH Cup is one thing that should be well rewarded. It's basically the purest part of this game - rewarding consistency and completely dependent on your own skill. So I'd have the prize be an additional Euro player OR chance Euro player OR Extra squad place, whatever is preferable to the winner.
No extra euro player for me. Chance to repick but to be clear it's a loan or a sub and when you lose the MMH cup you revert back to your original striker.
That feels like a good prize but also still temporary
No offense taken its the most accurate of your hypothetical situations ever
Repicking Euro player is a good prize.
Question(s)
Did we really use the 6/7th squad slots on the per week sheets?
Do we now need there to be 8th?
Or can I get rid of them?
They're not required for the league but will be for the cups if they remain as full squad games.
Spreadsheet todos:
Fill out the Teams sheet with all the draft picks
Duplicate the "Base" week sheet 29 times and put in the fixtures
Duplicate the "Base" week for whatever cup sheets we need.
And then I think that's it. Will try and sort early this week so I can fix any kinks.
I can do the teams on Wednesday afternoon?
Did we get to the bottom of whether or not we're doing anything to curb trades?
My suggestion would be that all trade negotiation should take place in the main RFF thread so that everything is transparent. Alternatively maybe go the other extreme and say that people can just do whatever the hell they want?
I think they should be outright banned, they aren’t worth the trouble. Publicising negotiations would be frustrating because people regularly get on their high horses about trades that 6 months down the line prove to have been very much in favour of the person perceived to have been swindled. If that’s added during the negotiation process then they would never go ahead.
I thought it was agreed that they could only be 1 for 1?
That should be fine to be honest, as long as they are players of relatively equal value.
I'll let my DoF Mik Nelson put forward our stance on this issue.
You put that forward but I don't remember anyone agreeing to it. What does restricting trades to one for one actually do?
You fucking abused our friendship mate. We should never forget that.
Let's be open here:
People think that I fuck people over by offering 2 good players for 1 supposedly great player.
In every single instance bar one, the other team has done better out of it (Chris Scott arguably won the Champions League because of it) - but that's not really useful in an argument.
I think Torn proposed it originally and explained the reasons quite well.
Better that they're getting two good players than one good player which they'd probably end up with if we restrict things to straight one-for-one deals.
Being open, trading is a key part of fantasy sports games but for me it went way too far last year and contributed massively to me struggling to stay invested in the game. I'd hate to see it banned completely but it would be good if we could set down some guidelines or restrictions. Maybe that is only allowing one-for-one deals. Maybe we could make trades less attractive by making people have to hold onto the player for at least a month?
Or maybe just say up front that anything goes and whoever plays the game the best deserves to win.
You did get abused yet ironically that's the only trade I've ever done that didn't result in public outcry.
I gave Chris Scott Moussa Dembele in exchange for Ross Mccormack and the reaction was as if I'd stolen his missus. Now look at it. My point being that public arbitration isn't the answer.
I already said trades are OK but only one trade per season per two teams and only one to one players.
I think you were the victim there of Chris Scott's prior reputation for poor trades in this and other fantasy games (possibly undeserved...?). Plus your own reputation from years ago about that incident that you don't like me talking about.
My only issue with trades is that you need all the teams to be equally invested in the game. If you've got that then it should only really be something utterly outrageous which gets vetoed. If you've got someone in there who doesn't really give a shit or is even happy to weaken their team in order to strengthen someone else's then it breaks the game, IMO.
If we can trust all 16 players to not be shits then maybe we don't really need to do anything.
We should pin an announcement on the top of the Football Forum along the lines of 'the only reason anyone would offer a trade is because they think they're getting the better end of the deal'
Ok sorry, I hadn't seen that.
Want me to add something to the spreadsheet to help track?
Can knock up a grid of teams vs. teams and we can put an X in a box when we do one.
The technical term is a matrix but I didn't want to confuse the simple minded (you're welcome Beebs)
They see me rollin they hatin
Last edited by Alex; August 9th, 2017 at 10:08 AM.
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Alex you fucking tit.
Can someone make an official 17/18 RFF thread please?
I often made 2 for 1 deals because someone's squad was shit and I had my eye on a free agent. They get two reliable scorers, I get one strong scorer and a punt. It's better for me and better for them.
Hooo boy. The WhatsApp group is full of hot spreadsheet chat this morning.
Cannot believe not all 16 of us are in it yet.
The teams are all in the spreadsheet. The master player list is all up to date.
WE START TOMORROW!
I don't have whatsapp and can't get it at this time so I won't be joining.
add me if you like.
Appreciate you being open, and I agree trading is a key part of fantasy games.
Therefore I don't see how trades would affect you in the slightest. What is "going too far"? - nobody has ever given any real concrete reasons behind any frustration they had towards trades I made. Rip isn't playing anymore because he had enough with the whinging about it, we liked talking about potential players and I don't see why that should be an issue for anyone other than if we are to just plainly accept their own idealised outlook on how a fantasy game should be played. Chris similar - he asked me to come back twice because we had fun talking about it off the forum. If it doesn't affect you then why affect us? This 1 for 1 trade thing is nonsense. Not one of my trades has ever been vetoed and most of the time they work out in the opposition's favour, because I am bloody addicted to trading and often push for things just to trade for the sake of it.
The only trades that were actually cancelled by MMH last season were not mine, so clearly there wasn't an issue with the trades themselves. One-for-one deals is clearly going to benefit one side more over another more than 241 I would have thought - the only argument against this is that the one getting 2 should not be lazy in looking for squad players.
MMH clearly wants to change everything about the game anyway giving everyone a Euro player and making this league essentially even from the outset, so I don't blame him given all the pissing and moaning - but trading is one of the most fun parts for me.
I'm sure MMH will make one when he wants to.
Don't worry mate I've banned myself from doing trades on here and on our NFL fantasy too.
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