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    Will get it done when I get back from work tonight.

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    Ran out of time for re-watching some of the CWC. So will put my list together now, with the last few spots a little thrown together. Still, pretty sure my list will still be as it would have been with said re-watch.

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    Final Day, people! 17 lists! Countdown begins tomorrow morning!

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    Im done. I just have to get the time to type them up and send them over to you Psycho. I'll probably do it sometime tonight after I get off work.

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    Back home now. Away to rewatch three more matches then shall put my list together and send it. Should be done before midnight UK time.

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    That's 19 lists and the deadline is a few minutes away from being up. As I said, I'll accept any submissions before I'm done preparing the first entry, which should be up tomorrow morning before I leave for work. First year we've done received less lists than the previous, but still on par with our average turnout. Still room to squeeze a couple more in.

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    I've hit my wall for the night. I'm only a few lists short of counting everything, but it's looking like I won't have the time to finish tomorrow. So DEADLINE IS OFFICIALLY EXTENDED UNTIL EARLY THURSDAY!!

    Sorry for the delay, everybody, but the reveal should be really interesting.

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    Yesss get a few more lists in foo's!

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    Can't wait. Feel like there's no absolute definites like there have been in previous years so it should be a fun countdown. Is it worth PMing anyone who hasn't sent one yet?

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    The list is officially tallied up. There was a pretty harsh battle for the last few spots as I was counting the last couple lists, and it's very interesting what started in the middle of the list and ended up just barely missing the cut. I'm preparing the details for the first entry and getting ready to rewatch for a write-up. It should be up before I leave for work, but at worst, it'll be up before the end of the night.

    Get pumped, y'all!

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    I couldn't believe myself what didn't make my own list. There were a ton of great matches this year. There were a few that I assumed would be in my top 15 that when it came down to it, couldn't even make my top 25.

    I have to keep track of this shit better this year. This list was hard.

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    My issue was that I actually did keep a running list this year, but there were tons of important matches that I reserved judgment on because I felt I was too distracted on first watch, and I didn't get to rewatch all of them. As such, certain gems like Ambrose/Owens, the Fastlane Triple Threat, and the IC Title 4-Way missed my list, and they probably all would have made it had I got the chance to properly rewatch them.

    It really goes to show how much higher the baseline match quality is these days. Matches that would have been an instant YES for me in 2011 happen on RAW and Smackdown on a regular basis. It's not that the matches that don't make the list aren't great, it's that everything else is amazing. And it's kind of like this around the world, not just in WWE.

    It's no wonder Meltzer felt compelled to add a sixth star to one of the best matches of the year so far, whether as a partial joke or not.

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    #25(tied)

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    That's right, it's now officially a TOP 26 Match of the Year list. Was the very last calculation. I voted this match at #5, and I don't regret that, as I believe everything I said in the write-up. The matches before were a dud, but this was a masterpiece. I'm honestly surprised that it made the list at all, though, because I know a lot weren't particularly high on it.

    It's tie to come tomorrow.


    **P.S. Could we get a sticky on this thread?
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    I couldn't fit this match in my top 25. I just couldn't.

    But like many great matches that got left off my list this year. Don't blame me. Blame AJ Styles. That list hogging son of a gun.

    He's on my list like 7 or 8 times I think.

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    Great match, but they both had better in 2016.

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    Didn't have this one on my list. Not because it wasn't good but because there was so much that was better this year.

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    Didn't make my list. Really didn't enjoy much of the Joe/Nakamura or Joe/Balor series tbh

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    Feel ever so slightly embarassed now that my #2 rank only made #25 overall.

    Admittedly my list was a bit rushed as it was only done over a couple of days (I only submitted the bare minimum of 10). If I had more time to watch more matches, I may have re-assessed. There's some gems I've no doubt forgotten about.

    It says somethingfor the quality this year though if that's only #25. My lower ranking might end up scoring higher. If they don't, I'm going to cry for a week.
    Last edited by Badger; February 9th, 2017 at 4:41 PM.

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    Great match, had it at 11. Loved it at first watch, really felt like the match I had hoped their first one would be. Was considering it really high on my list. Didn't quite like it as much on the re-watch, but still great. Very hard nosed and believable heavyweight match.

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    Great match, I mostly agree with the write up. I expected their first match to be amazing. It was just "OK" and had me worried about the rematch basically being a redo. Their 3rd and 4th matches were also painfully disappointing. But this match, this one match was the dream match I wanted. A very good and intense match, I want to rewatch it now. Ha.

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    I liked this match a fair bit and remember being quite surprised by the lukewarm reception of many. It was a few places outside my top 25 though.

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    It was a brutal strike-fest and it took two Kinshasas to put Joe down. I perhaps overrated it a bit, but I enjoy that kinda stuff more than the pretty technical or flippy stuff. Surprised as well people aren't as high on it.

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    I think I had too high expectations for what those two would do and they never quite hit them.

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    Did not make my list. Good match, but nothing special. Pretty much sums up Joe's year. He had a ton of good matches, but nothing spectacular. Personally, Roode versus Nak is a better match then any of the Joe versus Nak matches.

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    Definitely the best of their matches, but didn't make my top 10, which was all I submitted. May have squeezed into my top 25. Loved the finish especially.
    Last edited by Murphy; February 10th, 2017 at 11:06 AM.

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    The tie for 25 will be released later this evening. Unexpected taxi day for me. Should be before 8 EST.

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    #25(tied)

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    Had it at 19 but easily could've had it higher. Really cool match.

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    Hero! ranking this #5 makes me a feel a bit better makes me feel a bit more at ease with my ranking Nak/Joe at #2 considering the mass opinion.

    Nonetheless a great match-up that deserves a mention and I didn't think of. Well done dude!

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    This is another one that I was positive was going to be on my list but it just didn't make the cut.

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    This is one of those matches that fell off my radar at the end of the year. As good as it was, it didn't make a big impression on me.

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    it was a fun enough match to watch but made no real impression on me.

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    I loved the Styles/Cena/Ambrose match. I had it at #16, but I easily could have seen it dropping off my list. The pacing of it was fantastic, and the finish just floored me. I'm a huge mark for matches ending on something other than a finisher, especially if it makes sense. I think some were iffy on the finish coming off a chair shot, but that's the kind of kayfabe I like. I remember when everyone was winning with a roll-up for a while, and it actually made it more convincing whenever they teased a roll-up finish. That's the kind of shit I love.

    #24 incoming.

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    It was on my list, Psycho666Soldier eludes to something in the match review which I also noticed. This match maybe gets forgotten about because WWE had a number of other high profile Triple Threat Matches in 2016. I personally feel that they use multi-man matches too much and maybe that hurt this match.

    Again I completely agree with Psycho666Soldier’s review, this match is great because of the strong build going into it and because the match layout was so different to other WWE Triple Threat Matches. That said, I can totally see why others may have liked other Triple Threats this year, like Charlotte Vs Becky Vs Sasha, Lesner Vs Ambrose Vs Reigns or Rollins Vs Reigns Vs Ambrose and a tied #25 is fine with me, at least it made the cut in the end.

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    #24

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    Wow. #5 ranking by a member. Surprising. I liked this match but didn't consider it when compiling my list. It was good, but nothing special. I grew tired of seeing these two wrestle after a while.

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    I wonder if the different Sasha/Charlotte matches split the vote. I had one very high, but this one didn't make my list.

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    It certainly did. I had one at #3 that didn't even make the list. I had this one at #11. On re-watch, I probably would have also included the 7/25 match where Sasha first won the title.

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    As a heads-up, I won't be around on Sunday, so there won't be an entry. Sometime this week I'll make up for it with a double entry.

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    Had it at 22 so just about spot on for me. Their best match IMO.

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    I had this in my top 10, it was excellent. The highest of four of their matches. It was the least flawed of their series I'd say. The No Mercy triple threat didn't feature. Fun but I preferred that triple threat on Smackdown at the end of the year that had Baron Corbin in it.

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    I had it at 17 on my list. I've gone on and on about this one being my personal favorite of the series and the best the two had together. Unlike some of their other matches, I thought everything came together here. They told a great story and nailed every spot perfectly.

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    #23 will come pretty late tonight,but #22 and #21 will be up tomorrow. One in the morning, the other in the evening. It's a good run of matches that two will undoubtedly be seen as underrated.

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    #23

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    To no overload today, #21 and #20 will be out next.

    Both of these matches just barely missed my list. They were both higher at one point, and were in my Top 25, but when I chopped it down to 20, I just couldn't justify ranking them higher than certain other matches. New Day/Y2AJ in particular was heart-breaking. I really liked that match, and I knew Andy was a huge advocate for it. But on rewatch, I just couldn't put it higher on my list. But it was a great match regardless.

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    Absolutely loved New Day versus Y2AJ. It was helping set the table for those to truly enjoy AJ in WWE.

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    I really, really liked Nakamura/Balor. I had it at 11.

    The match just felt big time to me. One of those matches that creates at atmosphere of excitement that, sadly, the main roster had a hard time competing with. The match itself was really good as well.

    New Day/AJ made my list at 20. I hadn't even orginally considered it but when I started my rewatching process there were a few matches that others went nuts for that I knew I should take a look at it. And it impressed. That's just a great tv tag match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honey_Badger View Post
    Wow. #5 ranking by a member. Surprising. I liked this match but didn't consider it when compiling my list. It was good, but nothing special. I grew tired of seeing these two wrestle after a while.
    I couldn't make a convincing argument for anyone other than AJ that has had a better year than Charlotte. She is the complete performer and everything she has touched has been fantastic. I say that disliking how much the title has been tarted about.

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    Y2AJ/ND is superb. It serves its purpose wonderfully and then goes and delivers a hell of a lot more. There's a few matches I just couldn't put it above but I could've easily made an argument for it being top 5.

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    I went back and watched this match again, Y2AJ versus New Day, and I definitely did not appreciate the match enough the first time around. I believe I had 3 tag team matches ranked higher. After a second viewing, I would have ranked this match a bit higher upon the second go around. AJ stole the show.

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    #21

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    Just missed out for me. Much preferred the other one that's made the list so far.

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    Just made my list at number 25. It was an impressive start to their big main roster rivalry but I think they would better it a few times in the months that followed.

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    Easily the most emotional and satisfying match in the series.

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    none of their matches made my list, but this is the one i wish i'd remembered to put on.

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    Didn't like this very much until the last 5 min. or so and Sasha nearly broke her neck with the suicide dive. Winning the title for the first time is definitely a great moment for the Boss, but the match isn't one of my favs.

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    Yeah, what Cewsh said. Made my top 10. Loved it.

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    Had this at #16 - excellent match. Best woman's bout of the year.

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    I had this at number 12 on my list which I'm sure seems a little high to some who might just be judging based on the ring work alone. But this wasn't just a match it was a moment. It was the culmination of a lot of hard work by the WWE to bring women's wrestling back to prominence. It was the three key faces of this new movement battling each other in the same match. It was the moment that a serious title was first introduced and given to the women to eliminate any silly undetones of the previous incarnation.

    It was a good match and a HUGE moment.
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    This is the only match I felt guilty about leaving off my list (It just barely missed the cut at #21). While I don't think it was quite as good as the ones that did make my list, I think it was the most important Women's match that took place last year. It was the Culmination of the Women's Revolution and the debut of the new Women's Title. A complete 180 from the year before

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    Had it at 18. Best womens match of the year for me and certainly the best Mania match.

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    Did consider it for my top 10, but it barely missed out.

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    #20 for me too. The whole presentation of this match was just perfect - pre-match and post-match included. One of the few things that was in 5+ hours. Legitimately stole the show, did a lot for Charlotte and a good deal for the other two as well. I did have three women's championship matches higher, however.

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    Great match, best one on the Wrestlemania 32 card. While the action might not have been really crisp enough to validate my ranking of 6, at least compared to some matches I had below it, there are things that more than make up for it. It just felt important and fresh. And there was genuine emotions involved. You could see it on the girls in the match, and I could feel it in myself.

    Also nice with a match where you feel sympathy for the faces, and hope that they win, and even get annoyed when the heel prevails.

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    You don't do the fucking burning hammer.

    Other than that, it was a very good match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cewsh View Post
    You don't do the fucking burning hammer.

    Other than that, it was a very good match.
    I guess since I am not as well versed in NJPW or much Japanese Wrestling at all, I saw it as a holy shit moment where Kendrick was truly doing whatever it took to win. I jumped out of my seat because I thought it was a crazy spot.

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    It's hard for me to get past the history of the move, which was designed over YEARS to be a kill move above and beyond any other, and which was only used less than 10 times ever by the guy who invented it to protect it and because it was dangerous, and enjoy seeing it used as a fucking transition move in a crusierweight match.

    But yeah, if you're not familiar there's no reason for that to be a hang up. And it was a very good match all around.

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    Didn't make my list. Granted I don't think I'm as in love with the CW style as much as many others are. Still a good match. Ibushi is in my top 25 twice but this just wasn't one of them.

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    I actually missed this match. I meant to get around to it, but never did.

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    I started reading the review and couldn't remember why it didn't make my list. Then I remembered it was the Burning Hammer match. Fucking stupid.

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    Why is everyone shitting on this "burning hammer" move so much? Is it because the move didn't finish off Ibushi, or just the move in general?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honey_Badger View Post
    Why is everyone shitting on this "burning hammer" move so much? Is it because the move didn't finish off Ibushi, or just the move in general?
    It's a mixture. Some people feel both, some people feel strongly about one or the other. I'm only bothered by the fact that it didn't finish the match, but I don't mind it being used otherwise, as long as it's not overdone.

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    The move itself for me.

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    The Burning Hammer pissed me off, but not enough to outright exclude the match. It made my Top 10.

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    Slept with the wrong chick.

    Gave me the burning hammer.

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    Questionable heel booking at the end yes. But other than that, this match was perfect. And yes, the atmosphere was fucking insane. I still remember the feeling of adrenaline pumping through me as I watched this match. I guess the build was just perfect because I went in with very high expectations and just enjoyed the hell out of myself watching this match.

    I had it at 4.

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    Really liked this match. I was completely mesmerized from beginning to end. For two guys that never wrestled before, they tore the house down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honey_Badger View Post
    I actually missed this match. I meant to get around to it, but never did.
    Get around to it ASAP. It's worth it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Honey_Badger View Post
    Why is everyone shitting on this "burning hammer" move so much? Is it because the move didn't finish off Ibushi, or just the move in general?
    People who know it's history as a once-every-few-years-kill-move tend to hate it. I'll tell you as someone that didn't know it's history, sitting next to someone who did know it live in the arena, that not everyone hated it. It totally added to the match for him. He jumped out of his seat "THE BURNING HAMMER?!?! THAT'S LIKE THE 7th TIME EVER THAT MOVE HAS HAPPENED HOLY SHIT!!!" and then the kickout and it made everyone in our section go even crazier.

    Even the accidental finish halfway through the match didn't take the crowd out of it, which is a testament to how good it was....

    You see, after the neckbreaker on the turnbuckle, Kota Ibushi was counted out accidentally. I guess he didn't realize it was a 10 count instead of 20, I don't know, but the bell rang and Brian looked confused and half-assedly celebrated while the referee frantically talked in his earpiece, before a disheveled and not TV ready William Regal came out and ordered the match restarted simply because "I will not have a countout in a match of this magnitude." and they picked up from the countout again. On TV it was expertly editted out. You would never know it happened.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sasori View Post
    Really liked this match. I was completely mesmerized from beginning to end. For two guys that never wrestled before, they tore the house down.
    You see, I wanted to feel this way. I was so hyped for Cena vs. AJ. WWE's face vs. TNA's face. I wanted to be mesmerized. I was disappointed. HOWEVER. Their SummerSlam and Rumble matches far surpassed the MITB one and did what I hoped the first match would do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honey_Badger View Post
    Why is everyone shitting on this "burning hammer" move so much? Is it because the move didn't finish off Ibushi, or just the move in general?
    Because people forget this sport is fake

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    No no, it's cool. I hope the next time Darren Young needs a nice move for a near fall, he goes for a Tombstone. It's all just moves.

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    I do kind of hope Darren Young starts using the Tombstone.

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    Me too. And the stunner, and the People's Elbow. Go all in.

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    For someone nicknamed "No Days Off", he's sure taken a lot of them!

    Anyway Cena/Styles, had this at #7.Great match and I didn't mind the interference at the end. I think it actually added to it and sets up the Summerslam encounter nicely.

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    Before that match I'd never seen a burning hammer. It's a move that makes wrestling not wrestling anymore, where you're meant to give the illusion of hurting someone without actually doing so. The move is just dropping someone straight on their head. Stupid stupid stupid.

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    Back when I used to play WrestleMania 2000, I found that the Burning Hammer was in the game as a finisher (I forget under which name though). I gave it to my main CAW, and found that no matter how early in a match, you hit the opponent with it and it was a three count. Great move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    Before that match I'd never seen a burning hammer. It's a move that makes wrestling not wrestling anymore, where you're meant to give the illusion of hurting someone without actually doing so. The move is just dropping someone straight on their head. Stupid stupid stupid.
    That would be true if it were an American wrestling move. It is not. It is a move influenced by, and designed for, an entirely different wrestling culture. But you do hit on a big reason why it's so stupid to have in this match. In its proper context it makes sense. To do it in WWE where fans have been carefully taught that head drops are taboo, it's fucking stupid.

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    The burning hammer-- and super finishers of that nature should be utilized by WWE performers during blow-off matches...

    that way they can stop kicking-out of each others' finishers... rendering them fucking useless.

    I wouldn't anticipate Cena and company busting out Victory Star Drops or Burning Hammers anytime soon-- but I'm sure they could come up with something more compelling and less predictable by following in Japan's footsteps.

    actually... they wouldn't even have to do that...

    something like Brock's vicious Triple Powerbombs; Orton's head punt; Seth's Curb Stomp; Jericho's Lion-Tamer, and things of that nature can bring something different to the table; instead of the played-out 5-dozen AA's and other "finishers" that are now seemingly the norm in this day and age.

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    Ultimate finishers. Rarely pulled out and never kicked out of.

    I like it.

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    That's always been one of my favorite tropes in wrestling. Each wrestler having that Ace in the Hole when nothing else works, or they need to take out someone instantly.

    Had a break on Sunday. #17 and #16 incoming.

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    I had this at #12.

    There were 4 tag team matches on my list. This was #3 of 4 total, in terms of rankings.

    Excellent, excellent match and at the time, honestly on of the best tag matches I had seen in a while. I believe this is the match that put Revival on the map for guys like Austin, Foley and some other legends. Impressive performance from both teams, but truly excellent heel work and dynamic from Revival.

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    Fabulous match. Overshadowed a bit by the DIY tags, but right in the same class.

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