Madden 17 PS4 League (Congrats Rajah Super Bowl VIII Winner Morrison)

[Beefy]

It is that time of year, the game is out this week and even though we're targeting a Saturday 1st October start date I figured we might as well get a new thread going.

Last year was great for two and a quarter seasons and then painful for the third. No one is to blame (Torn is to blame) but going forward we can't wait weeks or months before advancing the clock as it just kills all momentum. I had to sim one of my games because I was on holiday, it isn't ideal but what can we do?

A few questions we should mull over - how do we agree who gets which team? Do we all go into one Conference to minimise the number of CPU games?

Do we play with the sliders tweaked?

Are we happy with the 7 minute quarter lengths?

Does anyone have any other suggestions?

League Roster

Alex

PSN:
Twitch: www.twitch.tv/1stround4ryanfitz

BBF

PSN: BBFAndy
Twitch:

Beefy

PSN: beefy78
Twitch www.twitch.tv/anthonycameronuk

Grimario
PSN: Grim_Ario
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/grimario/profile

Mikey Jones

PSN: TheMikeChilds
Twitch: www.twitch.tv/themikechilds

MMH

PSN: muhmuhhuh
Twitch: www.twitch.tv/muhmuhhuh

Pablo Diablo

PSN: Pdiablo
Twitch: www.twitch.tv/pabloeldiablos

Torn
PSN:
Twitch: www.twitch.tv/chrisbeesfc2

[Grimario]

- Ban Torn. I assume it wasn't rhetorical and that's what we should do - at the very least, don't let him back in Australia
- Mikey gets the worst QB, Crystal Meth gets the worst overall team, Alex/Matthew fight to the death for the best team and I get the one with the least lag. Seriously though - I like the idea of one conference, live broadcast draw from a helmet with the teams in it
- What are the odds of getting a set of sliders that everyone/majority agrees on? We might have to wait till a bit beyond 1st October for some considerably nerdier players on other forums (or MMH) who play a shitload more than we do to identify what sliders makes Madden the most realistic... but do we really want realistic? I kind of like watching Mikey throw a 70 yard TD knowing that (usually) could do the same
- 10 minutes quarters, run off to 10s. If you don't want to lose those valuable seconds, you can run a hurry up offense and deal with more fatigue


I like the idea of a Rajah Night Football once per month where we try and play and stream as many of the games back to back.

[MMH]

Im in.

Personally I would get the worst however many teams, throw them in a hat and draw them that way. I do like the idea of Rajah conferences but not for the lack of CPU games (I actually enjoy CPU games) but more to try and eliminate the boredom of the same playoff structure each season.

Rules, we need more rules pertaining to us. Eliminate cheeser plays We all do them to be fair (except maybe the lower ranked players) and personally I would like to try and get the scores and yardage as realistic as possible. Mikey breaking the TD record by like week 6 really ruined it for me for example.

Can we make it a full franchise league? With the owner stuff and all that? That would be nice.

I would love custom teams but that aint going to happen is it?

[Mikey_Jones]

- I'm happy to have the worst QB, since this year it was a bit ridiculous. Having a 99 rated QB definitely helped, but at the same time I drafted fairly well to have good options to use
- I think it'd be good to have players in both conferences - that was it nearly guarantees an all-Rajah playoffs and Super Bowl, which is really entertaining to me.
- Sliders and commissioner settings will be really important, so waiting a little while to find the optimal settings would be great. Especially with the XP settings issue we had last season
- I don't mind the quarter lengths right now, but a little longer could be good as well.


Grim's idea of a Rajah Night Football is a great idea, I loved watching the streamed games



EDIT: Couple of useful links I've found so far:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Madden/comm...or_every_team/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Madden/comm..._only_develop/

USER TEAMS:
Beefy - Giants/BULLDOGS
BBF - Packers
Alex - Falcons
Hurley - Cowboys
Pablo - Texans
Matthew - Bills
Chris Dolmeth - Chargers
MMH - Lions
Morrison - Jaguars
Kdestiny - Raiders
Torn - Rams
Mikey - Bucs
Grim - 49ers
GBF - Steelers
Miotch - Bengals
Cewsh - Dolphins

[Beefy]

Custom teams aren't an option unfortunately. I thought that if you go owner mode you can't play the games? Anyone able to confirm?

Rules is an interesting one... other big leagues have rules covering where/when you're allowed to go for it on fourth down, strict rules around trading with the AI, no custom playbooks, etc. I'm open to suggestions.

Grim's suggestion about ten minute quarters and running the gameclock off to ten sounds decent actually. Could be worth experimenting over the next six weeks.

I also like playing the CPU games and I worry that someone might get worn out losing games against the other players a lot but it is something to consider.

[MMH]

You can play the games in owner mode in single player. Not 100% sure about in connected franchise though. If it is possible we could counter custom playbooks (Though to be fair only I used them and I won fuck all..) by having the players having to stick to their head coaches playbook.

Trading certainly needs some rules. Maybe a waiver process I dont know. Ill have a nose at some league settings that other people use and see what works well and what doesnt.

Players losing all the time is an issue. I dont think people mind losing if its fun. Its when you get blown out or the game feels incredibly unfair that it becomes an issue.

[Beefy]

It's a really horrible game when you're losing. The Rick was gloating in-game as he blew me out in the second season and then rage-quit the league after losing to someone the next week.

Hopefully Alex signs back up and if GBF is in for the start he sticks with it.

[Pablo Diablo]

I don't think all in one conference is the way to go. While the PvP games are fun, they can also be a source of slow downs in actually having the games scheduled. Having said that I think aiming for at least one other person in your division is a good idea.

[MMH]

I would love Alex to come back by the way. And maybe some more players. There has to be some more we can coax in?

[Beefy]

Timesplitter said he was joining this year.

[Kdestiny]

I'm testing the game for now to see if it really is worth busing now or waiting to get it cheap later. I'll let you know my answer whether I'm in or not soon. I'd like to return, but my schedule may not allow it as well.

Excited to see what has been updated though

[Mikey_Jones]

More players would be fantastic

kdestiny - From what I've heard, the game is much better than last year's version.

[Kdestiny]

I do think it would be a good idea to spread the teams out a bit more. Have a few more AFC teams than we did for the previous one.

Having the middling or crap teams is good too I think. That's most of the fun for me, how well can you build up this bad team?

[Beefy]

From what I've read there's more focus on development this year - it is easier to upgrade players through training reps and in matches but there's also an aggressive physical-attribute regression system once your skill player hit their late 20s/early 30s.

Looks like it is also much less liekly that elite players hit free agency.

[Canuck]

What's this all about? Do I go buy this game? Sell me.

[MMH]

What's this all about? Do I go buy this game? Sell me.

If you like stuff then yes. Get involved.

[Canuck]

More sparkles.

[Chris Scott]

I'd play without doubt it if weren't on the shite PS4.

Have you guys not played the 10 hours trial yet then? Or is that just an Xbox thing. From what I've played it's much better that 16.

[Mikey_Jones]

More sparkles.

Rajahite vs Rajahite games are streamed on Twitch so we can all abuse each other. It's brilliant.

Building your own team around your top draft pick is fantastic as well

[Morrison]

we get a final tally of people who want to be involved and then take that number and go with the bottom rated teams. if we have ten people, the ten lowest rated overall will go into the selection pool. from there, it's a matter of either random drawing or first come, first serve. there's also the fantasy draft option, though with so many people in the league and having to fill out the whole team, i doubt people will want to do this.

getting some set rules will be good. i know i abused the 'trade your draft picks for superstars' thing last year, and i'll be avoiding that tactic this time around, as it clearly didn't help me anyway. but yeah, once we got going and it became clear that mikey was going to be an unstoppable offense and dolmeth an insanely unbeatable defense, it just closed up a lot of the enthusiasm. hopefully this year allows for a bit more parity, whether that's because of gameplay or sliders and rules we ourselves institute.

i'd be all for opening up for the owner side as well. i know as a solo you can do all three phases at once, whether it's all three for the same team or across different ones, i imagine it should be the same for connected. by the third season, outside of playing the user games, the whole process was getting a bit tedious cause it was essentially the same thing each week with running the game prep and upgrading players if you wanted. having the owner options available to play with as well would be a fun way of expanding the league, and also maybe provide some diversity in gameplay if your getting your ass kicked on the field, cause maybe you can do well as an owner.

[Canuck]

Ok. Buy me the game.

And a ps4.

[Chris Dolmeth]

Seahawks

[Chris Dolmeth]

Random idea, one confrence for America (and Pablo) and the other for the rest of the world.

[Kdestiny]

Pretty good so far. The running took a bit to get used to but this plays pretty slick

[Chris Dolmeth]

Got mine waiting in the mailbox for when I get off work

[Beefy]

Random idea, one confrence for America (and Pablo) and the other for the rest of the world.

Nah, you get Grimario

[Pablo Diablo]

Depends on how many North Americans we get and what coast they are. Which is actually better for your Grim us or the UK folk time wise?

[Grimario]

Both suck.

[MMH]

Put Grim in his own division

[MMH]

On Xbox.

[Grimario]

When do you all start/finish DST/BST/whatever you call it locally?

[Beefy]

Last weekend of October

[Kdestiny]

Yeah, I'm in. I'll be getting this for sure

[Torn]

- I'm happy to have the worst QB, since this year it was a bit ridiculous. Having a 99 rated QB definitely helped, but at the same time I drafted fairly well to have good options to use

Alright steady on there Dolmeth

[Torn]

Put me in the same division as Grim as I'll be in Australia more you can't keep me out. I don't care what team I have as long as it's not in the NFC East. Choose me someone shit.

And same conference as Mikey as I have never played him in our league and we can arrange to play each other easily. Although for scheduling purposes the conferences don't really matter as it rotates so only really applies to playoff. Definitely split Rajah players between the two though.

Rest of you can work your own shit out whatever

[Beefy]

I know that we rejected this idea last year but we could do a Fantasy Draft to determine rosters. Should result in 32 roughly even franchises and should be fun. We could mandate no picking a QB for the first five (for example) rounds so Luck/Rodgers etc aren't options.

The Draft is always fun and if we could find a slot where we're all free this could be good.

[MMH]

I would love a fantasy draft. Would be hard to get everyone together at the same time though.

[Morrison]

yeah, a fantasy draft would be fun stuff, and i'd be open to it. and yeah, putting a round cap on taking a QB is a good idea, but i guess at the same time, if we all have a good shot at drafting an elite or franchise QB, depending on where all the user teams land on the draft order, it becomes less of an issue. of course, that's not accounting for the AI teams. i wonder what the AI draft strategy is with the fantasy draft. when they arent drafting for 'need' and are starting fresh, is everybody just selecting a QB in the first round? if we're putting a cap, it'd probably have to be flexible cause if we're saying 'no QB's until round 4' but then the AI is picking up QB's left and right, it'd suck if we're down to the christian ponders of the world to throw to our stud receivers we were allowed to draft early or whatever. though i guess we're trying to avoid 'stud qb with stud receivers' anyway, so maybe that's not even an issue. anyway, it's good for thought.

[Kdestiny]

I did a fantasy draft yesterday to test franchise mode and a lot of the QBs seemed to go pretty quick. By round 4-5 I had to settle for Flacco

[Pablo Diablo]

I'm not sure I love the idea of a fantasy draft (the inability to get everyone on that same time excluded). Will have to try one out just to see what it's like. But I fear it being tedious.

[Beefy]

It shouldn't be tedious. We could put a cap on it of say, two hours or ten rounds and then sim the rest. We don't need to be drafting our back up defensive linemen, just the play-makers on the team.

My only concern is the AI not drafting well.

[Kdestiny]

Wouldn't need to worry about trades as far as time either

[Chris Dolmeth]

We have a hard enough time figuring out what times to play games, let alone getting everyone available for a draft.

[Matthew]

im in, but wont be getting it until a week or two

[Beefy]

We have a hard enough time figuring out what times to play games, let alone getting everyone available for a draft.

Well I'll start with suggestions and lets see:
Sat 24th Sept
Sun 25th Sept
Sat 1st Oct
Sun 2nd Oct

8am PST/11am EST/4pm BST/Midnight Grim-time. So leading right into the Early NFL Games on Sundays or that sorta time Saturdays (well other than Colts @ Jags which is a super-early game on 2nd October).

[Grimario]

Well I'll start with suggestions and lets see:
Sat 24th Sept
Sun 25th Sept
Sat 1st Oct
Sun 2nd Oct

8am PST/11am EST/4pm BST/Midnight Grim-time. So leading right into the Early NFL Games on Sundays or that sorta time Saturdays (well other than Colts @ Jags which is a super-early game on 2nd October).

Nope and probably nope for the first two for me. I fly back from Philippines on 24th.

Also, I don't care. Any AI drafted team will be better than what I started with at the 49ers originally.

[MMH]

Well I'll start with suggestions and lets see:
Sat 24th Sept
Sun 25th Sept
Sat 1st Oct
Sun 2nd Oct

8am PST/11am EST/4pm BST/Midnight Grim-time. So leading right into the Early NFL Games on Sundays or that sorta time Saturdays (well other than Colts @ Jags which is a super-early game on 2nd October).

Other than October the first everything there would be fine with me.

[Pablo Diablo]

I could only do the 25th of Sept.

[Morrison]

i dont know my schedule that far in advance and i have typically worked mornings on saturday and sunday, so i wouldnt be available at 11am EST. id much rather draft my own team, but considering we were gonna do the bottom rated teama, autodrafting couldnt end up all that shitty for me.

[Beefy]

We will only do it if we can get everyone buddy

[RFF Champ]

Count me in. Sorry I tantrumed and quit. I can do 8pm onwards on either of those Saturdays or anytime within reason on the Sundays. I would need ample warning to figure out what I need to do.

[Mikey_Jones]

Good man, Alex

All of the dates Beefy suggested should be fine for me

[MMH]

So I have been playing the new game.

Its seems pretty much the same. Need to go through the trainer thing more though as there are a lot of new buttons for running.

The players seem to react a lot better. Although they also feel like they are running on ice.

[Kdestiny]

Good man, Alex

All of the dates Beefy suggested should be fine for me

Same here it seems

[Beefy]

I did a Fantasy Draft last night. It's tougher as mid-roster guys all appear to have had their ratings lowered so you're only drafting top players in the first round or two.

I waited until the fifth round to get a QB and was stuck with Carson Wentz as best option available.

[Morrison]

your teams future is in good hands.

[Matthew]

i have this

[RFF Champ]

Are we doing the same career mode as last year or the one MMH suggested? I'm about to start one and want it to replicate ours.

[RFF Champ]

Started one as Green Bay. A very familiar opening loss to Jax 17-3 with their 2 TDs coming from INTs. Still threw 211 off 17 which is alright.

Is there an increase in holding calls this year? That's what really grinds my gears. I don't care about losing as long as I've lost because I've handed it to the opponent. I like the running this year, I found it difficult but will learn some of these tricks.

[Pablo Diablo]

I just tried a fantasy draft to see how it was.

Man that seems really tough, but if it's what everyone wants then I guess I'll be down with it.

[RFF Champ]

Fancy a friendly Pablo?

[Pablo Diablo]

Don't have time, was just messing around a bit before heading into work.

[RFF Champ]

You don't work Mondays?

[Pablo Diablo]

I do now. Only Thursdays are completely free days. Just starting a bit later today.

[Kdestiny]

Downloading this now

[Beefy]

I'll be around tonight if you fancy a couple of games Alex

[MMH]

Just started a Bears franchise with sliders etc altered.

Was good fun in my first game, beat the Broncos 20-18 after a very turgid first half of field goals. Ended up being down 18-9 but managed to come back in the end after a few false dawns.

The Bears are terrible though. I had 9 tight ends on my roster including a 38 and 40 rated.

I'm looking forward to dissecting it all actually.

[Kdestiny]

Just started a Bears franchise with sliders etc altered.

Was good fun in my first game, beat the Broncos 20-18 after a very turgid first half of field goals. Ended up being down 18-9 but managed to come back in the end after a few false dawns.

The Bears are terrible though. I had 9 tight ends on my roster including a 38 and 40 rated.

I'm looking forward to dissecting it all actually.

Yeah, they are the lowest rated team in the NFC which doesn't make sense to me

[Matthew]

fantasy draft seems like it would be a shitshow

[Beefy]

In the second game of my Browns franchise, Corey Coleman had 543 yards receiving and six touchdowns. Coverage is not good.

[Grimario]

Well I'll start with suggestions and lets see:
Sat 24th Sept
Sun 25th Sept
Sat 1st Oct
Sun 2nd Oct

8am PST/11am EST/4pm BST/Midnight Grim-time. So leading right into the Early NFL Games on Sundays or that sorta time Saturdays (well other than Colts @ Jags which is a super-early game on 2nd October).

All of these potentially back on the table for me. IT embargo because of some thing called an iPhone launching means the changes I was going to launch are now pushed back to October.

[Pablo Diablo]

I think after having tried the fantasy draft I am more against the idea of us drafting teams.

It's one thing to have enough knowledge to know where to make small adjustments to a team and another altogether to have the knowledge how to properly balance an entire team.

People who know how to do those things will always have an advantage, even playing with the regular teams. But if you're having to build an entire team that difference will be that much greater and can lead to teams that are even more unbalanced than they were last year. I think the goal should be to get everyone closer which is why the picking the bottom half in rating teams and drawing them randomly is a good suggestion in my opinion.

[The Rick]

It's a really horrible game when you're losing. The Rick was gloating in-game as he blew me out in the second season and then rage-quit the league after losing to someone the next week.

I played Pablo in the Playoffs, and then got my ass handed to me by Mikey. I know I played you earlier in the regular season or the pre-season and I'm thinking you beat me. I don't remember gloating at you. I remember talking a bit of trash towards Grim after hurting Big Ben, but I meant that all in good fun.



I absolutely own my rage quite. I was white hot mad. Towards the end of the 3rd quarter I popped onto Twitch to login and give Mikey congrats. I read some of the stuff that was being said, and lurked instead. Then I started taking knees to run clock, and finish the game quicker. Mikey had said there was nothing I could do to stop his passing game (he was absolutely correct), and he wasn't going to let up until he had the record. So I watched the stream chat, and took my beating, and then quit.

That is 100% on me. Already getting my ass kicked, I was trying to expedite my congratulatory message to Mikey. Instead I got butt-hurt, and left.

[Morrison]

I think after having tried the fantasy draft I am more against the idea of us drafting teams.

It's one thing to have enough knowledge to know where to make small adjustments to a team and another altogether to have the knowledge how to properly balance an entire team.

People who know how to do those things will always have an advantage, even playing with the regular teams. But if you're having to build an entire team that difference will be that much greater and can lead to teams that are even more unbalanced than they were last year. I think the goal should be to get everyone closer which is why the picking the bottom half in rating teams and drawing them randomly is a good suggestion in my opinion.

i just started a franchise with a fantasy draft and looking at it, im on board with what pablo is saying. it's gonna be a cluster fuck even if we manage to get everybody to show up, and drafting ten rounds out of 50+ is hardly worth it, and doing any more is just going to be tedious.

I played Pablo in the Playoffs, and then got my ass handed to me by Mikey. I know I played you earlier in the regular season or the pre-season and I'm thinking you beat me. I don't remember gloating at you. I remember talking a bit of trash towards Grim after hurting Big Ben, but I meant that all in good fun.



I absolutely own my rage quite. I was white hot mad. Towards the end of the 3rd quarter I popped onto Twitch to login and give Mikey congrats. I read some of the stuff that was being said, and lurked instead. Then I started taking knees to run clock, and finish the game quicker. Mikey had said there was nothing I could do to stop his passing game (he was absolutely correct), and he wasn't going to let up until he had the record. So I watched the stream chat, and took my beating, and then quit.

That is 100% on me. Already getting my ass kicked, I was trying to expedite my congratulatory message to Mikey. Instead I got butt-hurt, and left.

and i also totally relate to this. it's fun as hell to bust balls and take the piss out of the two guys playing when you're in the chat with the others, but if youre playing and its not going well, and you see some armchair quarterbacking or whatever happening, it can fuck you right off.

[MMH]

In the second game of my Browns franchise, Corey Coleman had 543 yards receiving and six touchdowns. Coverage is not good.

If it was against you I would say its fairly standard....

Certainly a worry that. Have you altered the settings at all?

[Mikey_Jones]

Enjoying the game so far, especially the new running. It's different, but definitely in a good way

I absolutely own my rage quite. I was white hot mad. Towards the end of the 3rd quarter I popped onto Twitch to login and give Mikey congrats. I read some of the stuff that was being said, and lurked instead. Then I started taking knees to run clock, and finish the game quicker. Mikey had said there was nothing I could do to stop his passing game (he was absolutely correct), and he wasn't going to let up until he had the record. So I watched the stream chat, and took my beating, and then quit.

That is 100% on me. Already getting my ass kicked, I was trying to expedite my congratulatory message to Mikey. Instead I got butt-hurt, and left.

Sorry about that. I was a complete dick at times trying to get the passing record that season, and I really shouldn't have been. I realised after that I went way too far

[Beefy]

If it was against you I would say its fairly standard....

Certainly a worry that. Have you altered the settings at all?

Ho ho ho, it was me firing rockets from the arms of Ryan Fitzmagic.

Nope, I've not touched the sliders or settings. Just playing vanilla All-Pro.

My other main issues are that it is way, way too easy to block kicks - I've already returned two for TDs and blocked a punt which I took to inside the five yard line. I like the difficulty of kicking now but the AI kicks and punts flawlessly (other than when you block him) which needs tweaking.

Also they let you carry on before the referee has called out the result of challenges which ruins the suspense. Oh and about 30% of times a touchback happens from the 20 yard line still and not the 25.

[MMH]

Ho ho ho, it was me firing rockets from the arms of Ryan Fitzmagic.

Nope, I've not touched the sliders or settings. Just playing vanilla All-Pro.

My other main issues are that it is way, way too easy to block kicks - I've already returned two for TDs and blocked a punt which I took to inside the five yard line. I like the difficulty of kicking now but the AI kicks and punts flawlessly (other than when you block him) which needs tweaking.

Also they let you carry on before the referee has called out the result of challenges which ruins the suspense. Oh and about 30% of times a touchback happens from the 20 yard line still and not the 25.

Yeah I am not a fan of the kick blocking really. When I played my first game I knew exactly when the CPU was going to block me. Tight game, me about to go two scores up and they blocked it for a TD and it was so obvious it was about to happen.

I find the kicking mechanism to be fine generally. It will definitely need a few tweaks and patches to get fully running for us I think.

[Canuck]

Got it. Complete noob, though.

[Beefy]

Top man Hurley.

So we're looking at:
Beefy
Grimario
Mikey Jones
Alex
Hurley
Matthew
Morrison
kdestiny
MMH
Pablo Diablo
Chris Dolmeth
Torn

I'll message Timesplitter as he said last year he'd be in this year.

Sounds like Fantasy Draft is out. I'm kinda liking the idea of splitting the Conferences by geography. We'd just then need to decide how to allocate teams.

[RFF Champ]

Get everyone to make a 1st, 2nd and 3rd choice and you allocate teams. When Dolmeth selects Seahawks, Panthers and Patriots then you give him a pants team.

[Beefy]

Yeah I'd prefer to have people as much as possible chose their own team, bearing in mind their own level of ability and the strengths of those teams. We can always veto. I'd hate to be lumped with someone I didn't want to play as.

[MMH]

Top man Hurley.

So we're looking at:
Beefy
Grimario
Mikey Jones
Alex
Hurley
Matthew
Morrison
kdestiny
MMH
Pablo Diablo
Chris Dolmeth
Torn

I'll message Timesplitter as he said last year he'd be in this year.

Sounds like Fantasy Draft is out. I'm kinda liking the idea of splitting the Conferences by geography. We'd just then need to decide how to allocate teams.

Well so far we have 12 players, split into 2 so 6 in each conference and 2 in a division? Obviously we can add to that if we get more in which would be nice...

[Beefy]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking. If we could get another four (two in No.America and two in Europe) that would be ideal.

RICK????!!!!

[MMH]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking. If we could get another four (two in No.America and two in Europe) that would be ideal.

RICK????!!!!

Yeah come back Rick. New season new start and all that.

I could possibly get a player or two from elsewhere but its not the same.

Wouldnt worry to much about locations as some of the Americans are easier to play time wise than others I suppose.

Didnt Myles want to play last season?

[BBF]

Beefy has convinced me to buy this and join the league. I'm going to be awful so plenty of home runs for everyone else

[Beefy]

Top man BBF. Ok that gives us three more to find.

[Mikey_Jones]

Brilliant stuff BBF, you'll love it

[Kdestiny]

I'm definitely still getting the hang of some of the things here. It's a lot smoother running, I just need to get the hang of doing it.

Doesn't matter whether I'm AFC or NFC. I've got some teams I could be either way. Was going to go with Chicago, but they are infinitely shit.

[Chris Scott]

Beefy has convinced me to buy this and join the league. I'm going to be awful so plenty of home runs for everyone else

You think you'll like this baseball league they all play?

[Canuck]

I don't think anyone will object to me being the Titans, will you?

[Pablo Diablo]

Anyone around who wants to mess around a little bit. Got home early can do with some games, haven't really tried much with it yet this year.

[Kdestiny]

I might jump on

[Beefy]

I'm around. Hurley and I tried to play earlier but the servers appear fucked. It took me ages to get connected and he couldn't connect at all.

[Kdestiny]

I'm around. Hurley and I tried to play earlier but the servers appear fucked. It took me ages to get connected and he couldn't connect at all.

Yeah, I just got the message that the servers were down

[Pablo Diablo]

Unlucky seems they are down. Guess another time.

Ooo Journey is the free game next month. I'll finally get to play that.

[Mikey_Jones]

I had a similar issue with Torn earlier - EA servers were down

Shame as I would have been around for a game as well

[The Rick]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking. If we could get another four (two in No.America and two in Europe) that would be ideal.

RICK????!!!!

No. just no

[Kdestiny]

Gives me a chance to test my shortlist of teams

[MMH]

No. just no

Come on you know you want to. Imagine 16 players? You cant miss out on that!